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#694309 - 05/28/04 05:40 PM Digital piano with escapement action
jazpianizt Offline
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Registered: 01/22/04
Posts: 411
I'm starting to look for a digital piano/keyboard to replace my Kurzweil PC88.
My priority is most grand-like action. I've found a couple that claim to have a realistic hammer action with escapement.
This seems like an important feature to achieve realism.
Is anybody familiar with this? The models I've found (internet surfing) are Roland HP-7, Viscount Sonata, and possibly some GEM models (don't know if they are still in production).
I'm assuming when they say escapement that it means the keyboard simulates the weighting of a real grand action, i.e. reduced down-weight at point of letoff, reduced up-weight, etc.
Any input appreciated.

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#694310 - 05/28/04 06:17 PM Re: Digital piano with escapement action
Craig S Offline
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Registered: 02/02/03
Posts: 137
Loc: Wyoming
Quoting from Larry Fine's "The Piano Book", escapement or letoff is "When the hammer is about 1/8 inch from the sting, the "toe" of the jack (if you look at the jack as a boot) contacts the letoff button, causing the top of the jack to pivot out from under the hammer butt."

This allows the hammer to travel the last 1/8 inch on it's own and rebound. If you push down slowly on a key you can feel this letoff point by the change in resistance.

My Roland KR577 has this escapement feel simulated into its action as do Rolands other KR series digitals I believe.

I am not sure of the value of it but I think it is kind of a neat feature making the action as realistic as possible campared to an accoustic.

I recently tryed a Roland HP 3 I think it was which did not have the simulated escapement and it was noticable. A person would get used to it either way I suppose.
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#694311 - 05/28/04 09:01 PM Re: Digital piano with escapement action
jazpianizt Offline
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Registered: 01/22/04
Posts: 411
Craig,
Thanks for your input. I'll check out the KR series as well.

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#694312 - 05/29/04 01:47 PM Re: Digital piano with escapement action
Luke's Dad Offline
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Registered: 03/28/03
Posts: 1426
Loc: Mid Atlantic
The following Roland products have escapement: KR7, KR15, KR17, HP7, KR577, KR977, KR1077, and HP557.
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#694313 - 05/29/04 02:51 PM Re: Digital piano with escapement action
jazpianizt Offline
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Registered: 01/22/04
Posts: 411
Thanks Luke's Dad,
I was wondering if any of the other Rolands had it. For some reason, when I checked the comparison chart on their website, I only saw the escapement listed on the HP-7 but hadn't come across the KR models.
I'll check them out.

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#694314 - 09/24/04 07:22 PM Re: Digital piano with escapement action
ProPianoGuyBC Offline
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Registered: 09/24/04
Posts: 388
Check out some the new Roland Models:
The HP107, HPi7

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#694315 - 10/01/04 09:29 AM Re: Digital piano with escapement action
ColinToronto Offline
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Registered: 08/27/04
Posts: 5
Loc: Toronto
I purchased the KR-7 (I've had it for 1 week now)with one of the reasons being the inclusion of the escapement feature. The dealer had a 9-ft Steinway grand right next to the Roland digitals, and I could compare the touch and sound - it's quite amazing how close they are. One benefit of escapement is that it allows you to play the same note very rapidly in succession with ease. I tested passages of Liszt's "Mephisto Waltz" to make sure I wouldn't be frustrated by an inappropriate response from the Roland. You can actually feel the "click" as you press down slowly on the key (both the Steinway and the Roland).

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#694316 - 10/01/04 09:55 AM Re: Digital piano with escapement action
jazpianizt Offline
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Registered: 01/22/04
Posts: 411
Thanks all for the input. \:\)

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