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#707333 - 04/19/05 06:04 PM Re: I think we're owed an apology
Friday Offline
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Registered: 12/05/01
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Yeah.

Whenever I tell people about "my forum", they are always AMAZED that we didn't get a moderator until now.

Granted I didn't read every thread everyday, I always thought that we were a pretty decent bunch, with only this past year as being rough and rowdy.

And I really thought that these last few months things were getting better...
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#707334 - 04/19/05 11:38 PM Re: I think we're owed an apology
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Tom--K:
An apology is not about understanding, it's about healing and forgivness. [/b]
So you advocate meaningless words just to smooth things over? \:D
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#707335 - 04/20/05 05:50 AM Re: I think we're owed an apology
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 Quote:
Originally posted by gryphon:
 Quote:
Originally posted by Tom--K:
An apology is not about understanding, it's about healing and forgivness. [/b]
So you advocate meaningless words just to smooth things over? \:D [/b]
Not at all.

I have differences with lots of people here abouts, nothing has ever been personal on my part. I like everyone. I wish everyone well.

None of these arguments around here has ever been personal with me.

If I've offended someone, I'm sorry that they were hurt. I genuinely like everyone here.

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#707336 - 04/20/05 02:30 PM Re: I think we're owed an apology
signa Offline
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Registered: 06/06/04
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Loc: Ohio, USA
i like what MattG said. while i did enjoy some intelligent or harmless discussions of some subjects here, i did see more than enough nasty, ugly or extreme comments from some posters, which makes me careless about seeing this CR go. so be it...

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#707337 - 04/20/05 03:10 PM Re: I think we're owed an apology
MusicMagellan Offline
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 1157
Loc: NY
 Quote:
I genuinely like everyone here.
Let me go on record here in these final hours of the PW CR as stating I definitely do not like everyone here.

In fact I would go well out of my way in real life to avoid some of the people I've met here. It's not them or me. It's simply the combination. I well know by now whom I'm compatible with and whom I'm not. It comes with age.

But I will state that I very much enjoyed you Tom and you too gryph, especially your irreverent senses of humor. I'll miss that.

Didn't mean to leave anyone out but since it's you two that had that interaction, I just thought I'd interject here.
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#707338 - 04/20/05 03:38 PM Re: I think we're owed an apology
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Whoa......

What have I been missing??

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#707339 - 04/20/05 05:28 PM Re: I think we're owed an apology
Tom--K Offline
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Opus_Maximus:
Whoa......

What have I been missing?? [/b]
Matt has a secret...

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#707340 - 04/20/05 06:59 PM Re: I think we're owed an apology
Jack Frost Offline
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Loc: Maine
 Quote:
Originally posted by Tom--K:
Matt has a secret... [/b]
Naw, everybody knows.

I love Matt. He is even smarter and wittier than you...but just barely on the witty part.

It's not a secret, Tom.

jf
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#707341 - 04/20/05 07:01 PM Re: I think we're owed an apology
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Jack Frost:
 Quote:
Originally posted by Tom--K:
Matt has a secret... [/b]
Naw, everybody knows.[/b]
Sockpuppet? He wasn't Lazy Pianist, was he?
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#707342 - 04/20/05 07:02 PM Re: I think we're owed an apology
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I know, I love him too.

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#707343 - 04/20/05 07:03 PM Re: I think we're owed an apology
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Registered: 08/19/03
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Loc: Maine
Yup. He was LP, Stainweggie, Yhapbo and Tomk!!!

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#707344 - 04/20/05 07:03 PM Re: I think we're owed an apology
jodi Offline
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Registered: 05/26/01
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Loc: The Evergreen State (WA)
Ok. THAT'S IT. I want to know ONCE AND FOR ALL who LP really is. PM me. I keep good secrets. Really.

\:\) Jodi

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#707345 - 04/20/05 07:06 PM Re: I think we're owed an apology
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Apple knows who Lazy Pianist is.

RZ and John Andrew are the same.

Who else hid and kept reinventing themselves?
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#707346 - 04/20/05 07:06 PM Re: I think we're owed an apology
Jack Frost Offline
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 Quote:
Originally posted by jodi:
Ok. THAT'S IT. I want to know ONCE AND FOR ALL who LP really is. PM me. I keep good secrets. Really.

\:\) Jodi [/b]
Jodi, it's no secret. LP was Jolly.

jf
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#707347 - 04/20/05 07:06 PM Re: I think we're owed an apology
Tom--K Offline
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Good for him.

He did well.

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#707348 - 04/20/05 07:11 PM Re: I think we're owed an apology
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Posts: 6971
Loc: Maine
 Quote:
Originally posted by gryphon:
Apple knows who Lazy Pianist is.

RZ and John Andrew are the same.

Who else hid and kept reinventing themselves? [/b]
Good riddle. Roi, Aveu??? I do know of some who could have used a reinventing or two.

I just need to say this here. I've gotten to know JA off this board and he is about one of the nicest, smartest and most sincere and warm people anyone could want to meet. He was dealt very, very poorly here.

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#707349 - 04/20/05 07:14 PM Re: I think we're owed an apology
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Loc: Oklahoma City
Yes, kathy, I agree. He is all of those things but intellectually honest he is not.
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#707350 - 04/20/05 07:31 PM Re: I think we're owed an apology
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 1157
Loc: NY
No way RZ and JA are the same.

JA's style was to post articles from the internet with little elaboration. To be honest, as nice a guy as JA is, I am very unimpressed by people who continually resort to that.

RZ for the most part composed his own posts. Many of them were well thought out. Further, unlike some highly overrated people here, RZ could think on his feet. He often rapidly came back with rebuttals that had good and extended content, not just wise-guy cop-out rejoinders. Now if that were really JA, then why didn't he show that persona originally?
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#707351 - 04/20/05 07:35 PM Re: I think we're owed an apology
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I don't know, but they are the same.
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#707352 - 04/20/05 09:11 PM Re: I think we're owed an apology
Jeffrey Offline
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Registered: 04/18/04
Posts: 2948
Loc: New York
gryphon: "RZ and John Andrew are the same."

How do you know this? Apart from the fact that they are both liberal Catholics, they have different views, sentence structures and posting habits. Makes no sense.

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#707353 - 04/20/05 09:18 PM Re: I think we're owed an apology
gryphon Offline
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What, you don't trust me?
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#707354 - 04/20/05 09:19 PM Re: I think we're owed an apology
Tom--K Offline
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Registered: 12/27/03
Posts: 5934
RZ and JA are two different people. Their Catholicism was world apart.

Besides JA had already left the Catholic Chruch by the time he got here.

I do think Lazy was Matt.

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#707355 - 04/20/05 09:21 PM Re: I think we're owed an apology
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Registered: 01/01/03
Posts: 19862
Loc: Kansas
 Quote:
Originally posted by kathyk:
 Quote:
Originally posted by gryphon:
Apple knows who Lazy Pianist is.

RZ and John Andrew are the same.

Who else hid and kept reinventing themselves? [/b]
Good riddle. Roi, Aveu??? I do know of some who could have used a reinventing or two.

I just need to say this here. I've gotten to know JA off this board and he is about one of the nicest, smartest and most sincere and warm people anyone could want to meet. He was dealt very, very poorly here. [/b]
oh please
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#707356 - 04/20/05 10:06 PM Re: I think we're owed an apology
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Registered: 05/02/03
Posts: 3246
Loc: Midwest U.S.
 Quote:
Originally posted by apple*:
 Quote:
Originally posted by kathyk:
 Quote:
Originally posted by gryphon:
Apple knows who Lazy Pianist is.

RZ and John Andrew are the same.

Who else hid and kept reinventing themselves? [/b]
Good riddle. Roi, Aveu??? I do know of some who could have used a reinventing or two.

I just need to say this here. I've gotten to know JA off this board and he is about one of the nicest, smartest and most sincere and warm people anyone could want to meet. He was dealt very, very poorly here. [/b]
oh please [/b]
Actually, it's quite true. I never much spoke to him here but having gotten to know him elsewhere, I've found him to be quite nice. I see him as something of the Good Angel to my Bad. We're often at odds on details, but he's amazingly thoughtful and gracious. We've had distinct differences of opinion, but it's been amazingly easy to feel a sense of friendship develop in spite of that, and even if we seldom agree.

My guess is that nearly all of us who perhaps developed differences here early might feel quite differently in a another place or in person.

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#707357 - 04/20/05 10:22 PM Re: I think we're owed an apology
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Registered: 04/16/02
Posts: 5066
I confess, I am really Ritchie Blackmore. I stumbled on this place while working out combining harmonic minors with pentatonic minor runs leading to Phrygian modal resolutions.
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#707358 - 04/20/05 10:26 PM Re: I think we're owed an apology
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Registered: 04/13/03
Posts: 433
Loc: CS, Texas
Regarding JA:

First, and foremost, I have absolutely no ill will toward JA.

During my stint of posting in the CR, I could never really figure out who JA was. I posted a few responses to his posts(most of them were challenging his positions) to find out what his "grand scheme" was, and to learn more about his positions. I tried to do this with no 'foul' intended, but he always tended to return the ball to my court...It was troublesome for me because I was just wanting a diffinitive answer, and he was 'playing the rules of the coffee room'. Our interactions never really worked.

I always wanted to get inside his head, but alas...it was a "no go".

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#707359 - 04/21/05 01:39 PM Re: I think we're owed an apology
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Registered: 01/16/05
Posts: 299
Loc: Greenville, NC
to be honest with you, this the the part of the forum that i like coming to the least, b/c all people do here is start pointless threads that are gonna get buried in a day or two, anyway, maybe knocking some of the good threads on the last page [whatever that might be].

but at the same time this is the most different forum, b/c most of the members up here are adults, mainly older ones. [i feel like a baby up here, b/c i'm only 19 with a bunch of older people, no offense.] since most of you have a lot of experiene up here, a lot more things up here interest you more than the younger folks.

when the moderate gave us the notice, i can understand where they were coming from, b/c i don't really like some of the things that go on up here, either, b/c sometimes all people do up here is start threads on controversial topics and argue about them insessantly, which i think is foolishness. people also tend to start topics that have no relevance to anything, like stuff about gardening, family issues, and other kinds of rubbish that no one really cares about. that's why when i come here, i don't even stay here for say, 5 minutes. why? that's b/c i know that the minute i get here i see that i'm not gonna find any topics or threads that interest me in any shape, type, or form.

with this going on, i think that i should be appointed as moderator, b/c i would tolorate this kind of thing, b/c when i go to forums, the thing that gets under my skin is when people start pointless irrelevant threads that don't really carry any signifigance, or just don't belong here. if see them, they're either gonna get locked or deleted to prevent these forums from getting flooded in the future, and then the moderators don't have to keep wasting time cleaning these forums out every now and then, deleting some of the good threads every now and then, b/c people start 10 million useless threads every day. and i don't think that this community is monitored enough by the moderators, so they need to appoint some new ones, mainly me, b/c i won't tolerate some of the things that go on up here.
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#707360 - 04/21/05 01:44 PM Re: I think we're owed an apology
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Piana Justice:b/c[/b]
Sorry, all I could see were the "b/c"s ;\)
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#707361 - 04/21/05 02:03 PM Re: I think we're owed an apology
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Posts: 3789
Loc: Plainfield, IL
 Quote:
Originally posted by Tom--K:
I do think Lazy was Matt. [/b]
I am sometimes lazy but was never Lazy.
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#707362 - 04/21/05 02:08 PM Re: I think we're owed an apology
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Loc: Plainfield, IL
 Quote:
Originally posted by Jack Frost:
 Quote:
Originally posted by Tom--K:
Matt has a secret... [/b]
Naw, everybody knows.

I love Matt. He is even smarter and wittier than you...but just barely on the witty part.

It's not a secret, Tom.

jf [/b]
I'm not entirely sure just how it is that I could possibly ever have earned such admiration, but thank you nonetheless. Jack, you've been an incredible asset to the CR since you first darkened its doorway, and it is I[/b] who should be giving, not receiving, the adulation. I am neither smart nor witty, I'm just a doofus who manages to muddle through every now and then.
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