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#722062 - 04/18/05 04:47 AM Why is there more art in cities?
kenny Offline
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Originally posted by dolmansaxlil:
Tee hee. I miss going to art shows (Sigh. I miss living in the city.) [/b]
I'm starting this thread with a quote.
(I AM brain dead, you know.)

Dolmansaxlil got me thinking, why is more art in cities?
Is there something about rural life that leaves no time for art?
Is there something about crowded city life that makes some people turn inward?
Afterall art comes from tension, doesn't it?

I wonder if most people in rural areas think of art as pretentious or not relevant to them.
Or are there lots of people like Dol who wish there was more art out in the country.

BTW, in rural areas near cities in So. Cal. there are usually galleries because so many x-city dwellers can afford to retire or just move out to the country - or they keep weekend homes there.
I'm not talking about these communities like Napa Valley.
I'm talking about real rural areas where incomes are tied more to the land.

Your thoughts?

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#722063 - 04/18/05 04:54 AM Re: Why is there more art in cities?
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I really think it has a lot to do with the artists. If you're an up-and-comer, you want as many people to see your work as possible (in hopes that they buy it), so it makes sense to go to an urban area - or at least show your work there.

I also think that galleries that do open in more rural areas are at a disadvantage, because people do expect more art in cities. So if a gallery opens in a small town, I could picture people assuming it wasn't a serious gallery.
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#722064 - 04/18/05 06:37 AM Re: Why is there more art in cities?
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Registered: 12/05/04
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Loc: Anaheim, CA
 Quote:
Originally posted by kenny:
 Quote:
Originally posted by dolmansaxlil:
Tee hee. I miss going to art shows (Sigh. I miss living in the city.) [/b]
I'm starting this thread with a quote.
(I AM brain dead, you know.)

Dolmansaxlil got me thinking, why is more art in cities?
Is there something about rural life that leaves no time for art?
Is there something about crowded city life that makes some people turn inward?
Afterall art comes from tension, doesn't it?

I wonder if most people in rural areas think of art as pretentious or not relevant to them.
Or are there lots of people like Dol who wish there was more art out in the country.

BTW, in rural areas near cities in So. Cal. there are usually galleries because so many x-city dwellers can afford to retire or just move out to the country - or they keep weekend homes there.
I'm not talking about these communities like Napa Valley.
I'm talking about real rural areas where incomes are tied more to the land.

Your thoughts? [/b]
Artists have to live; therefore they have to sell their art. Art is a discretionary purchase. While many people appreciate art, few actually buy it. Thus, there has to be a critical mass of people to develop a market large enough to support artists. Even in the rural towns of California that have artist colonies, they tend to be ones which get LOTS of tourists, which is what creates the critical mass needed.

It is simply supply and demand. There is not adequate demand in rural areas to support a supply chain.

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#722065 - 04/18/05 07:44 AM Re: Why is there more art in cities?
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Loc: The Evergreen State (WA)
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Originally posted by RZ:

It is simply supply and demand. There is not adequate demand in rural areas to support a supply chain. [/b]
Exactly.

\:\) Jodi

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#722066 - 04/18/05 08:11 AM Re: Why is there more art in cities?
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Registered: 07/07/01
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Loc: Topeka, Kansas
oh Jodi, I was going to tell you again how much I liked your funny colored moo-cows on your website. \:\)

Maybe JerryLuke could use one them for May's avatar.


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#722067 - 04/18/05 08:24 AM Re: Why is there more art in cities?
Siddhartha Offline
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Registered: 12/08/04
Posts: 1244
Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
I agree with the points presented, however, I think there IS a significant amount of "art" in rural communities, only its more along the genre of "crafts". Basket weaving, needlepoint, batique, ceramic pots. Walk into the quaint shops of any small rural town, and you'll see plenty of these crafts by the local artisans.

So I think they have the time, and the inclination, just a different market.
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#722068 - 04/18/05 08:50 AM Re: Why is there more art in cities?
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There is sometimes a difference between "art" and "craft". Some crafts are works of art, and some are just crafts. Depends on the maker. (same goes for paintings. Some are great, some are not so great) Mostly, you won't find really expensive anythings (arts or crafts) in those the smaller smaller towns, because the purchasers just aren't there. Unless it's a small town that is also a wealthy tourist destination.

\:\) Jodi

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#722069 - 04/18/05 08:59 AM Re: Why is there more art in cities?
Siddhartha Offline
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Registered: 12/08/04
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Loc: Cleveland, Ohio
Oh yes, I totally separate art from crafts (with some grey area).

Those guys that paint a fresco on a dinner plate in 10 minutes while the crowd watches, I would consider a craft. Its to look pretty, not express an idea. I would consider the infamous Bob Ross of stoner PBS fame in the same category. Happy little clouds and all.
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#722070 - 04/18/05 09:19 AM Re: Why is there more art in cities?
jodi Offline
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Registered: 05/26/01
Posts: 6956
Loc: The Evergreen State (WA)
I actually learned some stuff about painting clouds and trees from that fuzzy headed guy with the pet squirrel. I was always so amazed at how that awesome technique turned out such tacky paintings. And that sing songy voice. Cracked me up. I think he died of lung cancer, or something - I can't remember.

\:\) Jodi

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#722071 - 04/18/05 09:21 AM Re: Why is there more art in cities?
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Loc: Boulder, Colorado
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Why is there more art in cities?

... more people! duh!
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#722072 - 04/18/05 11:09 AM Re: Why is there more art in cities?
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Registered: 05/02/03
Posts: 2007
Loc: NYC
You find more of all the arts in cities, not just the visual. Musicians and dancers, for example, need the performance opportunities. Composers need the stimulation of the urban environment and need to hear the ideas of other composers. There is more foundation funding for the major arts institutions that exist in cities too.

A few creative types can live successfully in rural areas and do good work, though, so I won't make a blanket statement. Some artists have a real need for a quiet, rural environment.

I wound up in NYC because I felt there was simply no more opportune place to go (after having lived in the SF bay area). I thought about moving to Europe but didn't want to make, and have my family make, all the cultural changes necessary to do that.
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#722073 - 04/18/05 08:23 PM Re: Why is there more art in cities?
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Registered: 04/18/04
Posts: 2948
Loc: New York
This is like asking why are there more restaurants in cities? The more interesting question is why some cities - like NY - have so much art, and other cities, like LA, have less per capita.

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