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Sour grapes RA?
Admitting that you are extreme in your beliefs just nullifies anything you have to say.
Extremists are blind to facts. Extremists ignore reality.
Have fun in your extreme world. I choose to live in the real world.
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Um, Mark, I"m not sure which news stations you've been tuning in to (FOX perhaps?), but anyone who supports Bush, or has been supporting him from the onset IS SUPPORTING MURDER. We are in Iraq murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians. Why? Can you answer me that one simple question? Where are the weapons of mass destruction, where is Osama bin Laden, is he in Iraq too? When the councils have admitted that Bin Laden's ties to Iraq and Hussein are extremely tenuous at best and most probably non existent.
We're not only supporting murder of the Iraqi's though, but also the murder of our own troops, who are dying daily as Bush and his corrupt evil empire sit smugly waiting for the results of this farcical hoax of an election.
Why haven't any of the questions concerning 911 been answered, why is there a monumental coverup in progress, why is all flight data kept in secrecy, why have grieving victims' families been forcefully rebuffed and denied payments, why has unemployment, living costs, gasoline, job outsourcing skyrocketed to unheard of levels, why does the world hate America, why are we allowing Israel to build nuclear weapons and new Nuclear Submarines and then threatening to exterminate Saudi Arabia, Iraq, and North Korea for the same infringements, why is every other country realizing their errors and pulling out of Iraq while our troops are being slaughtered like cattle, why is Cheney and Halliburton making billions off Iraq, why is the middle class getting poorer and the corporate supporters of this Nazi-like regime filing their coffers with riches, why did Bush's grandfather financially supported the Nazi's in the 1930's, helping their rise to power, why is Afghanistan quickly falling into instability, with more and more American troops dying weekly, why did Bush have an Iraqi invasion on the drawing boards long before 911 as stated by many top white house staff employees, can you answer a single one of these questions about this imperial totalitarian regime intent on conquering the entire world for its own personal and corporate aggrandizement, I suppose you can't.
And before you rail against that I should go back to my own country, or whatever other drivel, I'll have you know I live in NY and was there during September 11, 2001, my sister was mere blocks from ground zero, and I was in Manhattan in the aftermath volunteering. So let's not question anyone's patriotism or love for one's country and people, as opposed to one's corrupt, evil, tyrannical government.
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Markjpc, don't confuse yourself with sophmoric semantics. By saying I have extreme views does not make me an 'extremist' or whatever ridiculous 'tag' you can come up with to subsume me into your disordered system of il-logic. If it makes it easier for you to digest what I have to say, then fine, but you are only blinding yourself to the truth, and with that, I hope you enjoy your life in a self cast delusional world.
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You actually believe that the people who voted for Bush support murder? No matter how powerful a pen, it cannot legalize the murder of a human by its dispensation of ink. Supporting a country in an aggressive war is supporting murder. You are equating Republicans with the terrorists that attacked this country on 9/11/2001? The party did everything to benefit from the incident. You did get your "four more years," didn't you? You are equating the thought process of logical, caring, thinking people who defend their freedom by pursuing those who would do them harm with the Nazis? Their one-sided justifications parallels the thought process of Nazis.
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"He who turns himself into a beast, gets rid of the pain of being a man."
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Enjoy your four more years Mark and co.
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Well, sort of looks like this thread has burned itself out.
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it's not even worth arguing with people who think like you two. You are of the ilk of conspiracy theorists whose assumptions about what is happening in this world are not based in anything resembling reality.
I hope you enjoy living in the hellish, anger based existence you have chosen for yourselves.
Have a nice life.
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I see you're quite keen on labeling others. I guess it helps small minds to organize themselves with the use of effective 'labels,' that misrepresent reality. You seem quite an uneducated individual, I feel bad for you, as if you've ever received an education you would have learned what a dangerous game such labeling becomes. Life is dynamic, people and events are complicated and cannot be understood by simple minded blanket statements akin to those you make. From another thread: Typical liberal clap trap of untruths and exaggerations.
So sorry your apologist, left wing socialist candidate lost. NOT!
Liberals, left wing socialists, apologists, conspiracy theorists, alarmists, it is sad how you are unable to comprehend a single dynamic concept and must use these easy-reference tags to subsume ideas into disorder. You should try actually thinking for once instead of repeating what you've been taught and brainwashed. Quite humorous to me how your inept mind works. You've further catalogued both me and Yhabo, into a distinct category, calling us conspiracy theorists living an existence not based in reality, when it was in fact me, not him, who related a few pieces of factual information, often misinterpreted as 'conspiracy theory.' But once again your disordered and childlike mind, incapable of processing any thought patterns beyond cliche'd labels and taglines that you heard your favorite pundit mutter on TV, somehow managed to categorize two completely separate ideas into one. You are a disheveled mess, it's not worth even arguing with inept minds such as yours.
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i wouldn't say that explicitly myself, but nevertheless i agree with Requiem Aeternam on the issue of iraq war. some people tend to forget or simply dismiss the number of killed US soldiers not to mention the far more number of iraqees killed there. do we (or just you) really care about that? so, when you rejoice with bush victory, simply take a minute to think about those who died in iraq or even those victims of 911 and reflect little bit more on what bush lead you to...
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Actually, I was just going to go to bed, but I figured since you're such an easy victim to assail, since you lack any sort of mental acumen, I'll kick you while you're down, or beat a dead horse if that's easier for you to understand, since you're down for the count, bleeding profusely on the canvas of ignorance. You claim I live in delusion and have "labeled" me a conspiracy theorist. I challenge you to refute a SINGLE STATEMENT of mine. Allow me to post it to you again. We are in Iraq murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians. Why? Can you answer me that one simple question? Where are the weapons of mass destruction, where is Osama bin Laden, is he in Iraq too? When the councils have admitted that Bin Laden's ties to Iraq and Hussein are extremely tenuous at best and most probably non existent.
Strange it seems to me, as even the mainstream media has already long caught on to the FACTS of this war. Namely, that there are no weapons of mass destruction and that Bin Laden has no ties to Iraq or Hussein. So, Markpcs, enlighten me, or at least throw a few more vacuous labels at me for fun, why are we in Iraq Mark? Why are we killing hundreds of thousands of children and civilians, Mark? Why are thousands of AMERICAN SOLDIERS maimed and decollated, Mark? Why are thousand+ more dead, Mark? Can you answer me any of these questions? Have we a right to be there? Our pretense was weapons of mass destruction, Mark, you know the same ones that Israel, North Korea, China, India, and Pakistan have. But why are we attacking Iraq and not them, Mark? Does it have anything to do with the fact that none of the other aforementioned countries sit atop an oil field the size of Wisconsin? Or perhaps because Iraq, with its obsolete, demoralized, and easily bribed armed forces, is the easiest foe to move in on, trample, and vanquish for the sake of financial prosperity, riches, and middle east IMPERIALISM. Are you a religious man, Mark? Mr. Bush claims to be. In fact he claims to be a devout Christian. Mark, now I gotta ask ya for a favor, buddy. You know my memory's been going lately and I just am wondering if you can help an old pal out. Can you help me find that passage in the Bible that tells us Christians to invade, pillage, pilfer, sack, kill, maraud, shock and awe, rape, humiliate, demoralize, a country for its oil. Oh, and if you can't find that one, can you please try to look for that one that allows us to pillage a country's resources and people even after our initial pretense of invasion has been debunked as a fraud, or at least a gross miscalculation? Thanks, buddy, I knew I could count on you. Let me know when you find them.
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I do not need to justify anything to you. You are against the war. Wow! What a revelation! War is bad! War is heck. People die! Horror! I am all for preemptive attacks to secure this nation. I do not care what you think, feel or demand. As long as certain nations of the middle east or any nation or warlord, or leader of any kind continue to breed their people to hate and attack us we must be on the offensive. If that takes till the end of time, so be it. It has nothing to do with imperialism. Requiem Aeternam spewed pillage, pilfer, sack, kill, maraud, shock and awe, rape, humiliate, demoralize, a country for its oil. Yeah. Ok. I see where you are now. You are obviously so biased in this matter that you fail to see the reality of what the proud men and women of our military are actually doing over there. You admit your memory has been going so I would suggest you try to do something about that. Maybe you could try to read something other than the left wing propaganda to which you seem to be indulging. Religion has nothing to do with this.
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Originally posted by Requiem Aeternam: I challenge you to refute a SINGLE STATEMENT of mine. Allow me to post it to you again.
We are in Iraq murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians. Why? Can you answer me that one simple question? Where are the weapons of mass destruction, where is Osama bin Laden, is he in Iraq too? When the councils have admitted that Bin Laden's ties to Iraq and Hussein are extremely tenuous at best and most probably non existent.
Actually, you asked 3 questions there. Anyway, you really need to settle down about this. You scream about the threats that Osama made to bomb the U.S. should Bush get re-elected, when really it just shows how desperate he is to get him out of office. Could this be because he knows he will have a harder time with Bush than with Kerry? Who's to say he wouldn't attack even if Kerry was elected? Are you going to trust a terrorist? Are you a terrorist? Well, I'll let you go to bed now. Don't forget your rubber sheets.
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Mark, you are dealing with loonys!
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I know David. It's fun to see them get all worked up though!
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Originally posted by Requiem Aeternam: Enjoy your four more years Mark and co. Thank you RA! We will.
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Um, Mark, I"m not sure which news stations you've been tuning in to (FOX perhaps?), but anyone who supports Bush, or has been supporting him from the onset IS SUPPORTING MURDER. We are in Iraq murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians. Going by your logic, anyone who supported the Allies in WW2 was supporting murder seeing how the millions of German civilians were killed. Liberals like you always have to take everything to the extreme, which is where you lose all credibility.
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Originally posted by Requiem Aeternam: Actually, I was just going to go to bed, but I figured since you're such an easy victim to assail, since you lack any sort of mental acumen, I'll kick you while you're down, or beat a dead horse if that's easier for you to understand, since you're down for the count, bleeding profusely on the canvas of ignorance.
You claim I live in delusion and have "labeled" me a conspiracy theorist.
I challenge you to refute a SINGLE STATEMENT of mine. Allow me to post it to you again.
[QUOTE] Are you a religious man, Mark? Mr. Bush claims to be. In fact he claims to be a devout Christian. Mark, now I gotta ask ya for a favor, buddy. You know my memory's been going lately and I just am wondering if you can help an old pal out. Can you help me find that passage in the Bible that tells us Christians to invade, pillage, pilfer, sack, kill, maraud, shock and awe, rape, humiliate, demoralize, a country for its oil. Oh, and if you can't find that one, can you please try to look for that one that allows us to pillage a country's resources and people even after our initial pretense of invasion has been debunked as a fraud, or at least a gross miscalculation? Thanks, buddy, I knew I could count on you. Let me know when you find them. Man RA--you gotta buy yourself a Bible and read it! People are getting slaughtered in it all over the place.
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Originally posted by Requiem Aeternam: [QB] I challenge you to refute a SINGLE STATEMENT of mine. Allow me to post it to you again.
[QUOTE]We are in Iraq murdering hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians. Why? Can you answer me that one simple question? Where are the weapons of mass destruction, where is Osama bin Laden, is he in Iraq too? When the councils have admitted that Bin Laden's ties to Iraq and Hussein are extremely tenuous at best and most probably non existent.
1) The term "murdering" implies intent. If you are implying that our troops are intentionally killing innocent Iraqis then your ignorance is only exceeded by your calumny. 2) What "councils" have admitted that bin Laden's ties to Saddam Hussein were "tenuous at best" and just what degree of non-tenuousness is required before we begin to worry about them. Listening to you one would have to conclude that you believe there was no conceivable chance that Saddam's WMD capabilities and financial resources would ever find themselves in the hands of Al Qaeda and yet there have been numerous documented encounters beteen the two. How many undocumented encounters might we suppose or even assume that there have been.
Better to light one small candle than to curse the %&#$@#! darkness. :t:
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This is the second most ridiculous thread I've read, containing two of the rudest and narrow-minded people I've met in a while.
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