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#730514 08/18/04 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by Jolly:
What are your chances of seeing someone gunned down?

I've been there twice.

What are your chances of being shot at?

I've been there once.
Live by the sword, die by the sword.
Some call it karma, others synchronicity.

It could be that the fact you carry a gun makes you more likely to encounter someone else carrying a gun.

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Two some-what related thoughts came to mind:

1. As Phykell mentioned, UK disallow gun ownership (except where explicitly licensed by the government, I believe). So do many other nations. Perhaps becuase of that, gun availability is extremely low and even the criminally inclined would have a hard time getting one -- hence leading to lower levels of destruction possessed by criminals. Sure, the general citizenry not generally allowed to own guns curtailed their power to defend themselves. But similarly, the scarcity of guns have also severely curtailed the destructive power of criminals. Does that, on the whole, make the society safer?

2. Jolly wrote: "No, everybody doesn't need a gun. Some folks are just ill-suited to weapons of any kind. Some are too quick to use them, and some are too slow, and some are so fumble-fingered they'd hurt themselves.
But on the whole, an armed society is a polite society."


On the first paragraph, the questions are (1a) Who determine what the criteria for gun-ownership privilege should be? (If we say some should have guns and others should not, than it becomes a privilege and not a right.) (1b) what should those criteria be? (2) Who should enforce the application of those criteria on the general populace?

On the second paragraph: Would an armed INTERNATIONAL SOCIETY also make a polite GLOBAL SOCIETY? Let every nation own WMD's and expect politeness in internatinal interactions, or reduce WMD the whole world over and limit the potential destructive power that can be possessed by any one country? (The three part questions asked above can be transfered here as well -- what the rules should be, who should should set the rules, and who to enforce it.)

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It could be that the fact you carry a gun makes you more likely to encounter someone else carrying a gun.


[smacks head] Doh! Well there you go! That's the answer, Jolly! Guns are like stink bait!.... [/smacks head]

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Kenny

You keep saying afraid and fear. This sublimal attempt at button pushing is what caused the other thread to explode. Fear is not in the equation. I do not explode, but I can push buttons a damn site better than you. Now gasp in surprise and post "what did I say????"

I seldom lock my car, and I never lock my doors. I refuse to live in a prison. If there were no one else involved and I had no cares for anyone, I probably wouldn't even carry a gun.

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Larry - just had to say, "well said!"


You will be 10 years older, ten years from now, no matter what you do - so go for it!

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Kenny edited his message about coming out, using the word "manly" and now we have a gun discussion.

Glad I am not a psychologist. :rolleyes:

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I know, it sort of reminds me of a song. (remember - from Monty Python? laugh )

I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay
I sleep all night and I work all day
He's a lumberjack and he's okay
He sleeps all night and he works all day

/ G - CE7 Am7 / D D7 GC G / :

I cut down trees, I eat my lunch
I go to the lavat'ry
On Wednesdays I go shopping
And have buttered scones for tea
He cuts down trees...
He's a lumberjack...

/ G - C Am7 / D D7 G - / G - C A7 / D7 - GC G /

I cut down trees, I skip and jump
I love to press wild flow'rs
I put on women's clothing
And hang around in bars
He cuts down trees...
He's a lumberjack...

I cut down trees, I wear high heels
Suspendies and a bra
I wish I'd been a girlie
Just like my dear papa
He cuts down trees...
He's a lumberjack...

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Re: I'm A Very Manly Man - kathyk

hmmmm....

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Huh?

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PS, Ax. You made some compelling points. I'd like to see our gun toters respond.

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Wow this whole thread has more twists and turns...


"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that
we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."-- Theodore Roosevelt
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"To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that
we are to stand by the president right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."-- Theodore Roosevelt
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Originally posted by Larry:
[b]It could be that the fact you carry a gun makes you more likely to encounter someone else carrying a gun.


[smacks head] Doh! Well there you go! That's the answer, Jolly! Guns are like stink bait!.... [/smacks head] [/b]
I know it may sound shocking to -to use your words- "immature" souls, but that's how it is.

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