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#732894 - 03/25/03 09:04 PM
¿Quién habla español aquí?
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I'm in Spanish 1 right now. Have been all year. Its very fun to be learning a foriegn language (even if I do hate all of the in-front of the class diolects!) and I was just wondering who else can speak spanish here. Obviously for some of you, it will be your first language. Just thought that I would post a topic to try and take our minds off the war!
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#732895 - 03/25/03 10:04 PM
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Jgoo,
No hay nadie que puede hablar español aquí, en este mundo de fantasía del rede. Solamente podemos escribir furiosamente, esperando que alguien nos comprendiere....
Me hace feliz que quieras aprender una lengua extranjera. Es el primero paso hacia el conocimiento de nuestro mundo vasto. ¡Buena suerte en el viaje!
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#732897 - 03/25/03 10:50 PM
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Ojala que el mantenga el interes en el idioma!
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#732898 - 03/25/03 10:53 PM
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Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
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Aaaaa si si ( I can speak kitchen spanish(sll 90 words) but can't spell it
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#732899 - 03/25/03 11:09 PM
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Originally posted by reblder:  Ojala que el mantenga el interes en el idioma! [/b] ¿Querría poner unas apuestas? :p ¡Ay! ¡Que Dios me callaría! 
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#732900 - 03/25/03 11:17 PM
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Je peux seulement parler anglais et une autre langue. Mais, malheuresment, je ne prefere pas a parler cette langue. Je pense qu'on sais pourquoi avec le monde aujourd'hui.
It's definitely been awhile...
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#732901 - 03/25/03 11:20 PM
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Ahhh, quelquechose que je peux comprendre! Je sais rien de l'espanol, mais un peu de francais. < >
Mais c'est une belle langue, oui? 
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#732902 - 03/25/03 11:29 PM
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Vat, methinks that Le Francais would be verboten now! Matt G: No querria correr el riesgo de hacer la apuesta como apenas ni una persona que logra mantener la interes por mucho tiempo! Mark@pianosource.com
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#732903 - 03/25/03 11:29 PM
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Il y a des moments. Si votre famille est venu de la Louisiane, on apprend les choses comme "Laissez les bons temps roulez!", "C'est si bon!" et aussi "boudin", "gumbo", "roux", "cayenne", et "etoufee". Keeyaw! J'ai une bonne idee! Les nutria en France! Jolly, quand est la commencee?
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#732904 - 03/26/03 12:24 AM
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Los necios admiran lo que no comprenden. Pueblo idiota es seguridad del tirano.
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#732906 - 03/26/03 04:58 AM
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Originally posted by ClassicalVegan:  Mais c'est une belle langue, oui?  [/b] pour moi, c'est un peu necessaire a Geneve pas que j'habite a cote de Geneve dans une ville avec 400 paysanne qui ne parle pas Anglais (naturalment  ). Mais, c'est encore dificil pour moi (et mon ecriture est pior (comme vous voulez voir!). Eu posso falar um bocadinho de Portugues tambem si alguem e interessado ... England (and I think the US?) have a terrible habit of not teaching languages "seriously". I don't mean the teachers are no good but since English seems to be a universal business language, there is never any encouragement from the society that it's important (and maybe for most, it isn't ... ?). I've lived on 3 continents already and still travel frequently all over the place - however, although meetings are in English, it's always nice to be able to say a few words in local language. You fit in better, get more out of the location / people and don't get tarnished with the "ex-pat" / "senior manager just here to cause trouble" label ... Of course, travelling doesn't help my piano practice any Gary.
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#732907 - 03/26/03 06:20 AM
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I wonder I should not start speaking another language. I love French though. Maybe it will disappear like Yiddisch, the language of Eastern Europe Jews. Maybe France will feel to ashamed to export cheese or wine and the whole of these two traditions will disappear like the Dinosaurs have. Maybe there will be a special international court for judging people who dare speak French after the outrageous behavior of their government. Mama mia ! My favorite language of all is Italian. Every time I go to Italy, everybody calls me "Dottore" (sometimes Commendatore, once Ingeniore). Do you know that Jewish story : Mary from Nazareth is sitting in Heaven with the friends of her village. And they all say with great envy. -Your son, he does have made a big success of himself She sighs and says : - I wanted him so much to be adoctor. What has it got to do with Spanish, jgoo ? Does anything has to have anything to do with anything on a spring day in Le Vesinet (very close to Paris).  :rolleyes:
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#732908 - 03/26/03 10:02 AM
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Originally posted by Gary P.:  Eu posso falar um bocadinho de Portugues tambem si alguem e interessado ...[/b] Teve aqui um advogado paulista e uma poeta canadense, mas não os vejo mais. Só tem nós dois, parece, quem falam. Eu preciso sempre praticar para não me esquecer, e não tenho ninguém com quem falar!
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#732909 - 03/26/03 11:49 AM
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Originally posted by Matt G.: Originally posted by Gary P.:  Eu posso falar um bocadinho de Portugues tambem si alguem e interessado ...[/b] Teve aqui um advogado paulista e uma poeta canadense, mas não os vejo mais. Só tem nós dois, parece, quem falam. Eu preciso sempre praticar para não me esquecer, e não tenho ninguém com quem falar![/b] Eu tenho a mesma problema (quase)... A minha Esposa e Portuguesa mas ela fala muito bem Inglesa e Francesa tambem. Portanto, para os muidos, nos falamos Inglesa em casa. Ha 6 anos passado, eu vive en Cascais, Portugal (perto Lisboa) para 3 anos. Estava um bom experiencia mas agora eu me esquerco muitas palavras porque eu vive tambem em Bangkok e Hong Kong para 4 anos e eu aprende(?) Thai! (Drat, this is more difficult than I thought - I used to be fairly fluent but now the words just come in French instead!) Gary.
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#732910 - 03/26/03 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by Gary P.:  (Drat, this is more difficult than I thought - I used to be fairly fluent but now the words just come in French instead!)[/b] Français, portugais, espagnol... sont tout la même chose. Noch wenn man Deutsch im Rezept hinzufügt, wird man zweifellos konfus! Esperanto, anyone?
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#732911 - 03/26/03 02:35 PM
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Michelle ma belle Sont des mots qui vont Tres bien ensemble Tres bien ensemble I love you, I love you... Those were the days my friend.  :rolleyes:
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#732912 - 03/26/03 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by apple:  Aaaaa si si ( I can speak kitchen spanish(sll 90 words) but can't spell it[/b] Apple, this nice thing about spanish is that if you know the alphabet, everything is spelled exactly how it sounds. Thats what my spanish teacher says anyway, and from the spanish the I know so far, it is holding true. However, there are some occasions, just like in english, where you must beware of the silent letter!!! Usually right at the beginning of the word.
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#732913 - 03/26/03 08:24 PM
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Originally posted by Gary P.:  Ha 6 anos passado, eu vive en Cascais, Portugal (perto Lisboa) para 3 anos.[/b] LOL!!! Surely you mean AÑOS, not anos, which is something entirely different. Then again, I notice that you didn't use accents (or, in this case, those little curvery lines that you see sometimes over the n) anywhere else either. I just thought that that one was funny!
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#732914 - 03/26/03 08:27 PM
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Jag pratar Svenska.
Ar det nagon annan har som pratar svenska?
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#732915 - 03/26/03 10:25 PM
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Originally posted by jgoo: Originally posted by Gary P.:  Ha 6 anos passado, eu vive en Cascais, Portugal (perto Lisboa) para 3 anos.[/b] LOL!!! Surely you mean AÑOS, not anos, which is something entirely different. Then again, I notice that you didn't use accents (or, in this case, those little curvery lines that you see sometimes over the n) anywhere else either. I just thought that that one was funny![/b] Sorry, jgoo, but that's Portuguese, not Spanish. He said "6 years ago, I lived in Cascais, Portugal (near Lisbon) for 3 years." Anos in Portuguese means "years" (años in Spanish). Lots of Spanish and Portuguese words are very close in spelling and pronunciation, but there are enough significant differences to make it very difficult (if not impossible) for a speaker of one to have a conversation with a speaker of the other. (Did that make sense?) But maybe as a student of "Spanish", you are aware that the Iberian peninsula supports at least five distinct languages, and many regional dialects. We've already seen Portuguese here. What you are studying is more technically "Castellano", the dialect of Castilla, the region of Madrid. Don't try to use "Spanish" in Barcelona (they prefer Catalan), Vitoria-Gasteiz (better learn Basque), or Santiago de Compostela (how about Galician?). Why so many? Well, the whole idea of national languages (one country, one language) is a pretty modern development in the world. Most languages have little to do with national boundaries!
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#732916 - 03/26/03 10:29 PM
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Originally posted by Peter:  Jag pratar Svenska.[/b] Well, that would be expected of someone who studied law in Goteborg. At least marginally.  Ar det nagon annan har som pratar svenska?[/b] Probably, but I'm not one of them. 
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#732917 - 03/27/03 01:48 AM
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Benedict, those really were the days my friend! All the criticizm directed toward France does not bother or alarm me. There is something that does cause me great concern. The last time I was in France(About 10 years ago) I was served sliced bread. Am I witnessing the beginning of the fall of French civilization?
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#732918 - 03/27/03 06:45 AM
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Slice bread ? Were was that ? And do not tell me that you watched CNN in your hotel room. On the Champs-Elysees, there is a big MacDonald's. I used to take my daughters there. Meat with sugar is very close to heroin my doctor tells me. Actually, since ten years, there has been an incredible change for the better. You can find absolutely anywhere in Paris very good traditional bread. The cause ? A reaction of boulangers agains the overwhelming tide of supermarket bread which did not have any of the qualities French bread makes us so proud. Do not worry about the reactions to France. In six months, either a solution will be in sight in Israel-Palestin and the whole (civilized !)world will gracefully admit its doubts to this US strangely elected and reactionary government was right and sincere and friendships will prevail. Or the US non-reactionary people will decide that this government is not exactly the best thing that they did make happen and will vote accordingly. Despite what the conservative think and feel, the USA were extremely popular during Clinton. The fact that some people think now that sex on the TV is much more evil than violence make me shiver. Looks like the attraction to death is stronger than the yearning for live. I meant sex (not pornography which seems to be a form of violence and has nothing to do with sex anyway). Sorry, it was about bread. Bread is nice too. 
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#732919 - 03/27/03 07:10 AM
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Volviendo al espanol, las lenguas me apasionan!!! Estudio Espanol y Frances aqui en el instituto, y Aleman en mi tiempo libre. Ademas, tengo ganas de estudiar el Chines y el Japones cuando vaya a la Universidad (pero vamos a ver que resulta de eso!!).
Matt G, como es que hablas tantos idiomas? Donde los aprendiste?
Ver tantas personas hablando lenguas diferentes me alegre mucho, sobre todo los que hablan lenguas estranas. Buena suerte a todos!!
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#732920 - 03/27/03 07:55 AM
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Originally posted by jgoo: Originally posted by Gary P.:  Ha 6 anos passado, eu vive en Cascais, Portugal (perto Lisboa) para 3 anos.[/b] LOL!!! Surely you mean AÑOS, not anos, which is something entirely different. Then again, I notice that you didn't use accents (or, in this case, those little curvery lines that you see sometimes over the n) anywhere else either. I just thought that that one was funny![/b] Yup, I use a US keyboard connected to my laptop and even my laptop (with a Swiss French layout) is mapped in US style. Since I touch type, it's much easier than learning the differences (e.g. the Y and the Z are interchanged). However, I have no clue where all the special symbols are but figured you'd work it out Anyway, as stated, your version is Spanish ... Gary.
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#732921 - 03/27/03 09:17 AM
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Genug ist genug! Wir brauchen Leute, die deutsch sprechen. Es tut mir die Ohren weh, wenn ihr Scheissespreche spricht.
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#732922 - 03/27/03 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by Brendan:  Genug ist genug! Wir brauchen Leute, die deutsch sprechen. Es tut mir die Ohren weh, wenn ihr Scheissespreche spricht.[/b] Dann sollst du auch keine "Scheissespreche" sprechen, so nicht werden uns die Ohren beleidigt. :p
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#732923 - 03/27/03 04:28 PM
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Originally posted by Praetorian_AD:  Matt G, como es que hablas tantos idiomas? Donde los aprendiste?[/b] Yo estudié francés en la escuela secundaria y la universidad. Aprendí español por accidente «en la calle» entre mis amigos latinos. Tambien, yo asistí clases en alemán y en italiano en la universidad, y asistí un curso para adultos para aprender portugués. A las veces, salpicaré en otras idiomas para una diversión. ¿Es una manía muy bizarra, no?
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#732924 - 03/27/03 08:08 PM
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Originally posted by Matt G.: Originally posted by jgoo: Originally posted by Gary P.:  Ha 6 anos passado, eu vive en Cascais, Portugal (perto Lisboa) para 3 anos.[/b] LOL!!! Surely you mean AÑOS, not anos, which is something entirely different. Then again, I notice that you didn't use accents (or, in this case, those little curvery lines that you see sometimes over the n) anywhere else either. I just thought that that one was funny![/b] Sorry, jgoo, but that's Portuguese, not Spanish. He said "6 years ago, I lived in Cascais, Portugal (near Lisbon) for 3 years." Anos in Portuguese means "years" (años in Spanish). Lots of Spanish and Portuguese words are very close in spelling and pronunciation, but there are enough significant differences to make it very difficult (if not impossible) for a speaker of one to have a conversation with a speaker of the other. (Did that make sense?) But maybe as a student of "Spanish", you are aware that the Iberian peninsula supports at least five distinct languages, and many regional dialects. We've already seen Portuguese here. What you are studying is more technically "Castellano", the dialect of Castilla, the region of Madrid. Don't try to use "Spanish" in Barcelona (they prefer Catalan), Vitoria-Gasteiz (better learn Basque), or Santiago de Compostela (how about Galician?). Why so many? Well, the whole idea of national languages (one country, one language) is a pretty modern development in the world. Most languages have little to do with national boundaries![/b] Oops... 
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#732925 - 03/27/03 08:13 PM
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Originally posted by Gary P.:  However, I have no clue where all the special symbols are but figured you'd work it out  [/b] While holding down the Alt key, you press the keys on the keypad on the right side of the keyboard. Sometimes its really more of a hunt to find the right ones! I used to have them memorized for last semesters Spanish Final, but have forgotten them. I will be needing them again soon though, so I better re-learn all of them! Here's an example: Alt+160 = á Alt+161=í etc. I think that you can get all of the accented letters and the curvy lines over the n with an Alt+16X combination, but its the upside down punctuation marks that I really have trouble finding!!!
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#732926 - 03/27/03 08:38 PM
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Originally posted by jgoo:  but its the upside down punctuation marks that I really have trouble finding!!![/b] ¡ = Alt-0161 ¿ = Alt-0191
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#732927 - 03/27/03 09:02 PM
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Thanks Matt!!!
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#732928 - 03/28/03 05:22 AM
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Brendan  Genug ist genug! Wir brauchen Leute, die deutsch sprechen[/b] Ich weiss nicht was es bedeutet Dass ich so traurig bin. Wer reitet so spät durch Nacht und Wind Es ist der Vater mit seinmem Kind Alle Mensche wirden Bruder. (Dass ist eine deutche Grosse Plaisanterie Ach Ach) 
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