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#756146 12/21/04 03:17 PM
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Thank you for stating you have no facts to base your conjecture upon.
Nor have you. Even.


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one faction wins the debate; they get the site the way they want it. another faction decides they'd like to continue their friendship at a different site, one that is more conducive to the kinds of conversations they'd like to have.

I wonder why they keep coming in for the special of the day? smile

...except athykay - boy she is a woman of principle... really sticks to her guns.. She has not been back. You gotta give her credit for that.


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Jolly,

I don't wish to go to that other site and try to find these mystery posts there. I just don't. If you know where they are, why don't you just post them?

I just don't see how anyone can really and truly answer your question without knowing what went on, exactly. That was the point of your question, right? To get an answer? Why be so coy about this?

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you know...one thing bothers me... I never thought I'd be arguing with Matt... never in a million years.


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[b]Thank you for stating you have no facts to base your conjecture upon.
Nor have you. Even. [/b]
I never stated I had facts. I have said so repeatedly.

Does that make the premise of this thread any less valid?


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I just don't see how anyone can really and truly answer your question without knowing what went on, exactly. That was the point of your question, right? To get an answer? Why be so coy about this?
I'm a lot of things, but coy ain't one of 'em.

I've already stated in this thread that a post from Elena started me thinking about the ethics of solicitation. I posted those questions.

They are questions of ethics, and are not an attempt at coyness.


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...except athykay - boy she is a woman of principle... really sticks to her guns.. She has not been back. You gotta give her credit for that.

I do. Oh, how I do. And I hope she's able to maintain her "principles"......

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Well! I never saw so many knickers in a twist since... well! I never saw so many knickers in a twist! ROFLMAO! laugh laugh laugh


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[QUOTE]I never stated I had facts. I have said so repeatedly.

Does that make the premise of this thread any less valid?
Was one of your members stolen? Honestly, I give up.

There are dozens, if not hundreds of people here who have developed off-line (or at least off-public board) friendships and/or correspondences with each other. Within that framework, I feel there is absolutely nothing, NOTHING, improper or unethical about suggesting a different online meeting place. Friends suggest things to each other all the time.

You have repeatedly posited the notion that someone "may have" been 'soliciting' other (apparently random) PW members to join them somewhere else. I find the implications of the assertion accusatory in and of themselves.


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Come on, Jolly. If you're going to go so far as to identify the site and the person who committed this egregious sin, can't you do me a favor and cough up a link or a quote? That's what I meant about being coy.

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I know you mean well, but this is just plain bizarre in this context. Stealing stamps is *theft.* If on the other hand the customer has the owner's explicit permission to use the stamps, then there is no theft.
I was trying to rise to Matt's allegory.

Here is what is meant...most of us display our email addies in our profiles. If I was a sharp laddie, I'd copy and paste those to my email list. I would then solicit as much business as possible for a new enterprise, by using that info.

By using the functions of the site, one can help to hurt it, or attempt to do so.


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Well! I never saw so many knickers in a twist since... well! I never saw so many knickers in a twist! ROFLMAO!
I *know!*

But you know, Bernard, I'm hurt.

No one solicited *me.* Ouch! confused frown confused frown bah

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You have repeatedly posited the notion that someone "may have" been 'soliciting' other (apparently random) PW members to join them somewhere else. I find the implications of the assertion accusatory in and of themselves.
Nope. I've been very careful to accuse no one.

As for implications, those are found only between your ears, sir.


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"RUMOR, n. A favorite weapon of the assassins of character." --Ambrose Bierce.

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And your point, Nina?


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Nope. I've been very careful to accuse no one.
Nah, you've not been careful at all, although I will grant that you are generally a stand-up guy. You started a thread whereby we all know the other site and the person you claim did something -- something you are suggesting was unethical.

Calling that "coy" is being rather kind, actually.

Eh. I still don't understand why this is anyone's business but Frank's . . . But maybe we should have a loyalty oath, as that seems to be what is expected of members here. smile

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Nah, you've not been careful at all, although I will grant that you are generally a stand-up guy. You started a thread whereby we all know the other site and the person you claim did something -- something you are suggesting was unethical.

Calling that "coy" is being rather kind, actually.
Please show me where I have accused anyone, on this board or another of the premise of this thread, and you have my public apology.


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It would be unprincipaled to "lift" the email addresses of PW members with whom one has no prior private communication for purposes of personal gain or revenge. Based on what I've read, I see no evidence of any such thing happening. Why the need to conjecture that such a thing could occur? Or are there some Machiavellian shenanigans that you wish to expose?


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You have repeatedly posited the notion that someone "may have" been 'soliciting' other (apparently random) PW members to join them somewhere else. I find the implications of the assertion accusatory in and of themselves.
Nope. I've been very careful to accuse no one.

As for implications, those are found only between your ears, sir.
What are we to make of this?
However, from a couple of things I've read, there seems to be an active solicitation movement going on, to a competing board.

and this:

If you'll go back and read what I wrote, you'll find I referenced a specific poster. I also said that she may not have been referring to this particular board when she made aforementioned statement. Or she might have been doing so.

Matt's interpretation makes a lot of sense. And you have propagated rumor and innuendo. You have been very "careful not to accuse anyone" directly, but tell me, what did you need to be so careful about?

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