2022 our 25th year online!

Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 3 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments.
Over 100,000 members from around the world.
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

SEARCH
Piano Forums & Piano World
(ad)
Who's Online Now
35 members (David B, AlkansBookcase, Bruce Sato, dh371, APianistHasNoName, BillS728, bcalvanese, 10 invisible), 1,199 guests, and 297 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 14 1 2 3 13 14
#756066 12/21/04 09:06 AM
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 14,305
Jolly Offline OP
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
OP Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 14,305
Is it ethical for members/former members of this site to solicit PW members for a competing Piano Forum site?


TNCR. Over 20 years. Over 2,000,000 posts. And a new site...

https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club

Where pianists and others talk about everything. And nothing.
#756067 12/21/04 09:15 AM
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 782
M
500 Post Club Member
Offline
500 Post Club Member
M
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 782
ethical? competing?

I cross reference pianoforum.net on this site all the time.

I didn't know there was any competition involved.. They are all resources, use them as you wish.

-Paul


"You look hopefully for an idea and then you're humble when you find it and you wish your skills were better. To have even a half-baked touch of creativity is an honor."
-- Ernie Stires, composer
#756068 12/21/04 09:17 AM
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,400
2000 Post Club Member
Offline
2000 Post Club Member
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,400
No.


-The 89th Key [Linked Image]

[Linked Image] www.thecollegecritic.com [Linked Image]
--- Integrity | Loyalty | Simplicity ---
#756069 12/21/04 09:20 AM
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 3,789
3000 Post Club Member
Offline
3000 Post Club Member
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 3,789
Yes. Let the free market decide. :p


Sacred cows make the best hamburger. - Clemens
#756070 12/21/04 09:24 AM
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 3,171
3000 Post Club Member
Offline
3000 Post Club Member
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 3,171
a non-issue IMO.

#756071 12/21/04 09:31 AM
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 14,305
Jolly Offline OP
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
OP Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 14,305
Quote
Originally posted by mound:
ethical? competing?

I cross reference pianoforum.net on this site all the time.

I didn't know there was any competition involved.. They are all resources, use them as you wish.

-Paul
I used the word solicit. There is a difference between mentioning a site, and actively soliciting members.

Is it ethical to solicit?


TNCR. Over 20 years. Over 2,000,000 posts. And a new site...

https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club

Where pianists and others talk about everything. And nothing.
#756072 12/21/04 09:42 AM
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 1,031
Dan Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 1,031
Round here, you can get picked up on East Colfax for soliciting ...


As for other sites, mentioning is ok, saying it's a cool site is fine, soliciting members from here is *ALSO* fine provided there is no money involved on either side (i.e. loss of $ here or gain of $ there). Since it's almost impossible to figure out that last bit about money, that makes solicting a gray area IMO.

#756073 12/21/04 09:53 AM
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,393
1000 Post Club Member
Offline
1000 Post Club Member
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,393
When a forum gets as big as this one, splinter groups will naturally form. I see nothing wrong with someone creating another group and inviting people they think might be interested to join. It doesn't mean people have to choose between one or the other, though they might. Does this group actually exist? Is it seeking to recruit people away from PW, or just recruit people from PW? If it exists, why was it created? What motivated its creation?

There's lots to consider (and much more information needed) before I could decide on the ethicality of it.


August Förster 215
#756074 12/21/04 09:56 AM
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 6,416
6000 Post Club Member
Offline
6000 Post Club Member
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 6,416
I think the best way to deal with that issue is to abide by the rules Frank has established. I think the applicable rule is this one:

Quote
What Is/Isn't Allowed?
We are a family-oriented web site. Please be careful what you post. Keep it clean, refrain from vulgarity or slander.
The Coffee Room is a little more open than the other forums, but even here please keep in mind young children may access the threads.
For more details about what you should/shouldn't post, please see this...
Be Careful What You Post!
There might also be some prohibition against spamming/selling things (although I couldn't find one), but that's not applicable to the situation you describe, I think.

The only way it wouldn't be OK would be if Frank decided it wasn't. So far, he hasn't so far as I know.

#756075 12/21/04 10:12 AM
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,934
5000 Post Club Member
Offline
5000 Post Club Member
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,934
I never saw it before. It's hilarious! They are a bunch of people with absolutely nothing to say.

Some old favorites are there. To give you an idea of the tone of the place, check out this post from kathyk:

Okay, I'll start off saying this is not original - I got the idea from another unamed forum...

You gotta love 'um. laugh

#756076 12/21/04 10:25 AM
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,561
NAK Offline
2000 Post Club Member
Offline
2000 Post Club Member
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 2,561
Is it ethical? Don't know.

Does it matter? No.

It's not like PW is at any risk. laugh

#756077 12/21/04 10:27 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 19,862
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 19,862
might thin some of the riffraff.. might be a good thing...


accompanist/organist.. a non-MTNA teacher to a few

love and peace, Õun (apple in Estonian)
#756078 12/21/04 10:33 AM
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,934
5000 Post Club Member
Offline
5000 Post Club Member
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 5,934
Quote
Originally posted by NAK:
Is it ethical? Don't know.

Does it matter? No.

It's not like PW is at any risk. laugh
Kind of the Dark Matter Piano World. Everything in black and hard to read. I'm going to join as a sockpuppet, they won't know it's me till it's too late. [Linked Image] HA HA HA!

#756079 12/21/04 10:34 AM
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 13,837
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 13,837
I agree with Matt. It's the internet forum version of a free market. Besides, a little attrition never hurt anybody.


"If we continually try to force a child to do what he is afraid to do, he will become more timid, and will use his brains and energy, not to explore the unknown, but to find ways to avoid the pressures we put on him." (John Holt)

www.pianoped.com
www.youtube.com/user/UIPianoPed
#756080 12/21/04 10:36 AM
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,400
2000 Post Club Member
Offline
2000 Post Club Member
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,400
Quote
Originally posted by Tom--K:
I never saw it before. It's hilarious! They are a bunch of people with absolutely nothing to say.

Some old favorites are there. To give you an idea of the tone of the place, check out this post from kathyk:

[b]Okay, I'll start off saying this is not original - I got the idea from another unamed forum...


You gotta love 'um. laugh [/b]
mad mad mad mad mad

I just wrote this nice long post, and it was deleted because of an internet error. I HATE THAT!!!! mad

Anyway, I was just making fun of that other website, regarding the issues that they were addressing; ones that we talk about all the time in here, except in here we contribute on a MUCH higher intellectual level. (as compared to what I saw there)

For example they would have stuff like:

"What do you think of this homosexuality topic?"

You might as well have:

"Has anyone heard of this Inter-Net technology?"

"What do you think about this Iraq war?"

or

"Has anyone ever listened to Rachmaninoff 3?"

Haha!


-The 89th Key [Linked Image]

[Linked Image] www.thecollegecritic.com [Linked Image]
--- Integrity | Loyalty | Simplicity ---
#756081 12/21/04 10:40 AM
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 14,305
Jolly Offline OP
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
OP Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 14,305
Quote
Originally posted by Cindysphinx:
I think the best way to deal with... snip... but that's not applicable to the situation you describe, I think.

The only way it wouldn't be OK would be if Frank decided it wasn't. So far, he hasn't so far as I know.
Point taken.

That which is not expressly forbidden is implicitly condoned.

Yet...what if the solicitation was monetarily damaging to Frank?


TNCR. Over 20 years. Over 2,000,000 posts. And a new site...

https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club

Where pianists and others talk about everything. And nothing.
#756082 12/21/04 10:42 AM
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,400
2000 Post Club Member
Offline
2000 Post Club Member
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 2,400
Quote
Originally posted by Tom--K:
Quote
Originally posted by NAK:
[b] Is it ethical? Don't know.

Does it matter? No.

It's not like PW is at any risk. laugh
Kind of the Dark Matter Piano World. Everything in black and hard to read. I'm going to join as a sockpuppet, they won't know it's me till it's too late. [Linked Image] HA HA HA! [/b]
Hmmm, that gives me an idea! We should form a large gang of normal CR members (30 or so) and just go over and terrorize that forum, and run them outta town! This is OUR turf! whome


-The 89th Key [Linked Image]

[Linked Image] www.thecollegecritic.com [Linked Image]
--- Integrity | Loyalty | Simplicity ---
#756083 12/21/04 10:45 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,654
4000 Post Club Member
Offline
4000 Post Club Member
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 4,654
Quote
Originally posted by Jolly:
Is it ethical for members/former members of this site to solicit PW members for a competing Piano Forum site?
If you're talking about pianoforum.net, it's not a competing site. This site is geared more towards the technical end, and pianoforum.net is more toward pianists. The members tend to be a lot younger too.

I've been a member of pianoforum.net for almost as long as I've been a member here. I've never solicited any members from one forum to another. I don't think it's wrong to encourage people to post in another related, but not competing, forum.

I've gotten information from the other forum that I would not have gotten here, and the reverse is true.

It's non-issue.

Both Nils at pianoforum.net, and Frank at PianoWorld are busy people, and they don't need trouble made over this.

#756084 12/21/04 10:54 AM
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 6,207
6000 Post Club Member
Offline
6000 Post Club Member
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 6,207
Quote
Originally posted by Tom--K:

... To give you an idea of the tone of the place, check out this post from kathyk:

Okay, I'll start off saying this is not original - I got the idea from another unamed forum...
You stalk her all the way to that other site? You must really miss her, a lot! laugh

#756085 12/21/04 10:56 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 19,862
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 19,862
i miss kathy too... such a stubborn woman


accompanist/organist.. a non-MTNA teacher to a few

love and peace, Õun (apple in Estonian)
Page 1 of 14 1 2 3 13 14

Moderated by  Bart K, Gombessa, LGabrielPhoto 

Link Copied to Clipboard
What's Hot!!
Piano World Has Been Sold!
--------------------
Forums RULES, Terms of Service & HELP
(updated 06/06/2022)
---------------------
Posting Pictures on the Forums
(ad)
(ad)
New Topics - Multiple Forums
How Much to Sell For?
by TexasMom1 - 04/15/24 10:23 PM
Song lyrics have become simpler and more repetitive
by FrankCox - 04/15/24 07:42 PM
New bass strings sound tubby
by Emery Wang - 04/15/24 06:54 PM
Pianodisc PDS-128+ calibration
by Dalem01 - 04/15/24 04:50 PM
Forum Statistics
Forums43
Topics223,384
Posts3,349,159
Members111,630
Most Online15,252
Mar 21st, 2010

Our Piano Related Classified Ads
| Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations |

Advertise on Piano World
| Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map


Copyright © VerticalScope Inc. All Rights Reserved.
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community.