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#756306 - 12/22/04 07:00 AM Re: Ethical?
The 89th Key Offline
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Thanks Jolly. \:\)

BTW, where did you get your name? I'm sure you've said this before, quite a few times actually, but I'm in the dark.

(no pun intended regarding the forum world)
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#756307 - 12/22/04 07:01 AM Re: Ethical?
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Posts: 19862
Loc: Kansas
what about me Jack...
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#756308 - 12/22/04 07:02 AM Re: Ethical?
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Loc: Chicago
2:8 And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, keeping watch over their flock by night.

2:9 And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid.

2:10 And the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, which shall be to all people.

2:11 For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.

2:12 And this shall be a sign unto you; Ye shall find the babe wrapped in swaddling clothes, lying in a manger.

2:13 And suddenly there was with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God, and saying,

2:14 Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men.

2:14 Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace, good will toward men. [/b]

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#756309 - 12/22/04 07:04 AM Re: Ethical?
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Registered: 02/14/03
Posts: 6416
Loc: Washington D.C. Metro
Apple:

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I have no desire to meddle with your participation in another forum.. I do desire that this forum not be poisoned by the resentment and resentment of those participating in the "Great Liberal Exodus" (hereinafter GLE)as KathyK calls it.

So quit poisoning this place with your arguments and demands and unfair allegations and I for one will unintroduce myself at the other forum.

We know you you hate us... Can you quit telling us? It's been duly noted.
Let me be clear.

I plan to continue posting on PW until further notice. I never once said I was leaving this community, and I have no plans to leave because I enjoy the overwhelming majority of the people here. I consider myself a member in good standing here who follows Frank's rules, and I think you would be hard-pressed to prove otherwise.

Yes, some other people have left or scaled back their participation here. I have not, so I'd appreciate it if you'd keep that distinction in mind.

As far as who is poisoning PW, I'm feeling pretty confident that KathyK didn't start this thread. And Apple, if it is true that your interest is in the health of this community, I do not understand why you would have posted on that other forum at all. Very puzzling, that.

So yes, maybe we can make a deal. I won't participate on that new forum if I have no genuine interest in it, and you will do the same. As for whether you should delete your introduction over there, I haven't read it, so I'll leave that to your discretion.

Deal?
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#756310 - 12/22/04 07:05 AM Re: Ethical?
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There was no organized solicitation...

There were no ethical improprieties...

People just freely assembling and talking - in a different place...

As I noted in a previous post...a stressful time of the year...let us try and keep the peace of the season...

Frank... Please remove this thread.

K

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#756311 - 12/22/04 07:06 AM Re: Ethical?
kluurs Offline
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Too many words...

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#756312 - 12/22/04 07:14 AM Re: Ethical?
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I hope Frank will not remove this thread.

It speaks volumes.
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#756313 - 12/22/04 07:15 AM Re: Ethical?
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Registered: 05/27/04
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Loc: Illinois/Thailand/Korea
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...... and on earth peace, good will toward men.
I think this is good to repeat. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all. \:\)

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#756314 - 12/22/04 07:25 AM Re: Ethical?
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Registered: 10/18/04
Posts: 808
Loc: Bristol, England
Can I please go to the bathroom? I hope you won't mind but our usual one is blocked up so I have to use the spare one. Is that ok?
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#756315 - 12/22/04 07:26 AM Re: Ethical?
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Registered: 04/18/04
Posts: 2948
Loc: New York
kluurs - No fish pictures?? I like fish pictures!

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#756316 - 12/22/04 07:27 AM Re: Ethical?
kluurs Offline
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Loc: Chicago
 Quote:
Originally posted by Cindysphinx:


It speaks volumes. [/b]
the precise reason for its demise...

K

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#756317 - 12/22/04 07:34 AM Re: Ethical?
Larry Offline
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Posts: 9217
Loc: Deep in Cherokee Country
Cindy writes:
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The people on that other board have done *nothing* to deserve any trouble. As best I can tell, they are quite nice and welcoming, and they all get along well.

Already, Larry has posted twice there. First, he claimed he was posting just to establish his IP address. Fine. I can't help but wonder if there wasn't an ulterior motive, though.
Duh!! You think?

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After all, if one simply wanted to register and post once to establish an IP address, this could be done with an innocuous post about the weather.

But no. Larry's post called the newly arriving PW members names and imported the stench from here over there (italics mine).
Excuse me. I had never posted there in my life, and had no intention of *ever* posting there. Maybe you had your brain in a jar somewhere during the two pages of accusations and name calling I went through *here* that provoked me into posting. You have extremely selective memory, lady. And as for my second post, are you the *only* one who hasn't figured out that alice oliver is Pique?

I keep hearing you, Jack, and Pique asking people to leave them in peace. You're like a bunch of Iraqi insurgents fighting out of a mosque. You seem to think it's all right for you to come here and take pot shots at people at will, but you want to be able to run over to your "safe house" and insist upon your innocence, and demand to be "left alone". If the three of you want to be left alone, quit coming here taking shots at people. Just go there and stay.
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#756318 - 12/22/04 07:45 AM Re: Ethical?
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#756319 - 12/22/04 07:50 AM Re: Ethical?
The 89th Key Offline
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Loc: Northern Virginia
 Quote:
Originally posted by Jeffrey:
kluurs - No fish pictures?? I like fish pictures! [/b]
Here ya go jeff: \:\)

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#756320 - 12/22/04 07:52 AM Re: Ethical?
Jolly Offline
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Cindysphinx:
I hope Frank will not remove this thread.

It speaks volumes. [/b]
We may disagree on what it speaks, but I agree, leave it.
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#756321 - 12/22/04 08:15 AM Re: Ethical?
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Just in case a rather important point has truly been missed:

Larry:

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I keep hearing you, Jack, and Pique asking people to leave them in peace.
No, you've not heard me say that. If you have, please do provide me with a quote.

My concern is for the innocent people in That Other Forum who have done nothing to deserve your unnecessary name-calling in That Other Forum.

I've never demanded that you leave *me* alone. I feel reasonably confident that I can handle you just fine.

I think it is awful to post something like that *there.* Regardless of the extent to which you feel you were "provoked." I mean, would it be OK for me to go to That Other Forum and say spiteful things about you just because we are exchanging words here? I would think not.

Now. My point is a simple one -- Do Not Foul The Waters There For Any Reason. Please do reflect on it.

There are other people on the planet to consider other than those who post on PW.


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Cindy writes:

quote:The people on that other board have done *nothing* to deserve any trouble. As best I can tell, they are quite nice and welcoming, and they all get along well.

Already, Larry has posted twice there. First, he claimed he was posting just to establish his IP address. Fine. I can't help but wonder if there wasn't an ulterior motive, though.

Duh!! You think?

quote:After all, if one simply wanted to register and post once to establish an IP address, this could be done with an innocuous post about the weather.

But no. Larry's post called the newly arriving PW members names and imported the stench from here over there (italics mine).

Excuse me. I had never posted there in my life, and had no intention of *ever* posting there. Maybe you had your brain in a jar somewhere during the two pages of accusations and name calling I went through *here* that provoked me into posting. You have extremely selective memory, lady. And as for my second post, are you the *only* one who hasn't figured out that alice oliver is Pique?

I keep hearing you, Jack, and Pique asking people to leave them in peace. You're like a bunch of Iraqi insurgents fighting out of a mosque. You seem to think it's all right for you to come here and take pot shots at people at will, but you want to be able to run over to your "safe house" and insist upon your innocence, and demand to be "left alone". If the three of you want to be left alone, quit coming here taking shots at people. Just go there and stay.
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#756322 - 12/22/04 08:36 AM Re: Ethical?
plays88skeys Offline
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Registered: 01/08/04
Posts: 3091
Loc: Richmond, VA
In ten years, what difference will anything written here have made in your lives?
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#756323 - 12/22/04 08:48 AM Re: Ethical?
The 89th Key Offline
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I agree plays, this thread has no chance of accomplishing ANYTHING.

Jolly posted a good, honest question, but it has gone so far off the trail, that it's pointless now.
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#756324 - 12/22/04 09:00 AM Re: Ethical?
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Posts: 19862
Loc: Kansas
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#756325 - 12/22/04 09:06 AM Re: Ethical?
The 89th Key Offline
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Posts: 2400
Loc: Northern Virginia
Apple, you forgot something!!



Believe it or not, that's an apple. \:\)
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#756326 - 12/22/04 09:06 AM Re: Ethical?
Tom--K Offline
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Registered: 12/27/03
Posts: 5934
 Quote:
Originally posted by plays88skeys:
In ten years, what difference will anything written here have made in your lives? [/b]
In ten years time I expect all my post to be published in bound volumes, with a major motion picture deal or two in the works about my on line personae.

I also expect several PhD dissertations to have been done by then on my poetry and prose.

Not that much to ask. \:\)

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#756327 - 12/22/04 09:19 AM Re: Ethical?
Jolly Offline
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Registered: 06/20/01
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Loc: Louisiana
 Quote:
Originally posted by plays88skeys:
In ten years, what difference will anything written here have made in your lives? [/b]
A lot.

Particularly on the PF, not necessarily in the CR.

Over 30 pianos that I know of, plus many more that I don't.

Even Chinese pianos will still be here in 10 years... ;\)
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#756328 - 12/22/04 09:23 AM Re: Ethical?
Jolly Offline
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Cindysphinx:
Just in case a rather important point has truly been missed:

Larry:

 Quote:
I keep hearing you, Jack, and Pique asking people to leave them in peace.
No, you've not heard me say that. If you have, please do provide me with a quote.

My concern is for the innocent people in That Other Forum who have done nothing to deserve your unnecessary name-calling in That Other Forum.

I've never demanded that you leave *me* alone. I feel reasonably confident that I can handle you just fine.

I think it is awful to post something like that *there.* Regardless of the extent to which you feel you were "provoked." I mean, would it be OK for me to go to That Other Forum and say spiteful things about you just because we are exchanging words here? I would think not.

Now. My point is a simple one -- Do Not Foul The Waters There For Any Reason. Please do reflect on it.

There are other people on the planet to consider other than those who post on PW.


 Quote:
Cindy writes:

quote:The people on that other board have done *nothing* to deserve any trouble. As best I can tell, they are quite nice and welcoming, and they all get along well.

Already, Larry has posted twice there. First, he claimed he was posting just to establish his IP address. Fine. I can't help but wonder if there wasn't an ulterior motive, though.

Duh!! You think?

quote:After all, if one simply wanted to register and post once to establish an IP address, this could be done with an innocuous post about the weather.

But no. Larry's post called the newly arriving PW members names and imported the stench from here over there (italics mine).

Excuse me. I had never posted there in my life, and had no intention of *ever* posting there. Maybe you had your brain in a jar somewhere during the two pages of accusations and name calling I went through *here* that provoked me into posting. You have extremely selective memory, lady. And as for my second post, are you the *only* one who hasn't figured out that alice oliver is Pique?

I keep hearing you, Jack, and Pique asking people to leave them in peace. You're like a bunch of Iraqi insurgents fighting out of a mosque. You seem to think it's all right for you to come here and take pot shots at people at will, but you want to be able to run over to your "safe house" and insist upon your innocence, and demand to be "left alone". If the three of you want to be left alone, quit coming here taking shots at people. Just go there and stay.
[/b]
And here's the point...you both have them, and both are valid.

Larry didn't post in the other forum until he had his tail yanked. Hard.

But even at that, he probably shouldn't have lobbed a salvo in. However....

He has a point, also. If some folks wish to have a "safe haven", 'tis best not to go poke in the neighbor's campfire.
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