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#778190 - 01/13/05 03:02 PM Re: Coffee Room Post
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Originally posted by Phlebas:
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Originally posted by Tom--K:
I understand how he feels.

I'm something of a prince of a guy myself and when I make an occasional mistake it tends to gets all blown up all out of proportion, too. [/b]
And all this time I thought it was a Napoleon complex you had. [/b]
Hay I'm 6' 1"!!! \:D

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#778191 - 01/13/05 03:05 PM Re: Coffee Room Post
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Marshall Pilsudski was also about 6'1".
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#778192 - 01/13/05 03:13 PM Re: Coffee Room Post
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Originally posted by Renauda:
Marshall Pilsudski was also about 6'1". [/b]
Oddly we have the same look, too:


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#778193 - 01/13/05 03:28 PM Re: Coffee Room Post
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Originally posted by Tom--K:
 Quote:
Originally posted by Renauda:
Marshall Pilsudski was also about 6'1". [/b]
Oddly we have the same look, too:

[/b]
Brrrrrrr.....He looks chilly.

Btw, did you know Charles and Camilla were at The Producers last week?

Edit: Reference to Phlebas quote. ;\)
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#778194 - 01/13/05 03:34 PM Re: Coffee Room Post
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Originally posted by jazzyd:
What a lot of fuss about nothing! This is just part of a new fashion craze which has been sweeping our septic isle. Why, only a few days ago Harry and William were wearing the red cross... But, of course, the sartorially-challenged media failed to pick up on it.



[/b]
Absolutely. I think that the papers (The Sun particularly :rolleyes: ) are making a mountain out of a mole hill. Sure it wasn't the cleverest thing to do, but seriously I don't think there is any need for everyone to start saying all this bad stuff about him, it was a private party after all it's not like it was a public conference or anything similar. The papers follow him and try to catch his next mistake, which if it wasn't for the papers, wouldn't have offended anyone because nobody would know about it. I personally am sick of hearing of all the mistakes that the royal family have made, the media go for anything, like the Queen has a hair out of place and there at her like a pack of starving wolves. :rolleyes: ;\)

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#778195 - 01/13/05 03:40 PM Re: Coffee Room Post
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When I was in college, a student wore a Klan costume to a party. It caused quite a ruckus.

And this was in conservative *Arizona.* In the 1980s.

Regarding Harry and the Royals, there's no such thing as a private party. He's had the best education and grooming possible, so it's hard to figure he just didn't understand what he was doing.

Really, if he's that unhappy being a Royal (and I can understand why a person would hate it), he should bail. Looks like he wants to have it both ways . . .
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#778196 - 01/13/05 03:50 PM Re: Coffee Room Post
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I hear the queens a fun girl, too--it runs in the family.


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#778197 - 01/13/05 03:56 PM Re: Coffee Room Post
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Originally posted by Freedom:
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Originally posted by jazzyd:

[A load of nonsense.][/b]
[A sensible reply.][/b]
You make some good points, Freedom. I take it you don't really believe that I've been walking in the hills wearing a trilby with a satanic pentagram on it, or that there's a fashion craze for emblems...? ;\)


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#778198 - 01/13/05 04:03 PM Re: Coffee Room Post
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Originally posted by Phlebas:
The first thing I thought about when I saw this story was:

"Will the Dancing Hitlers wait in the wing-we are only seeing singing Hitlers."
[/b]
:D \:D

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#778199 - 01/13/05 04:05 PM Re: Coffee Room Post
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Originally posted by Cindysphinx:
Regarding Harry and the Royals, there's no such thing as a private party. He's had the best education and grooming possible, so it's hard to figure he just didn't understand what he was doing.[/b]
You can take the man out of Eton, but you can't take Eton out of the man.


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#778200 - 01/13/05 04:07 PM Re: Coffee Room Post
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David, good to see P.C. got the top comedian award the other week wasn't it? \:\)
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#778201 - 01/13/05 04:23 PM Re: Coffee Room Post
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Very good. \:\) And good to see Chris "angry political goose" Morris high up, too, despite having grievously overestimated the collective intelligence.


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#778202 - 01/13/05 04:26 PM Re: Coffee Room Post
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Originally posted by Cindysphinx:
Regarding Harry and the Royals, there's no such thing as a private party. He's had the best education and grooming possible, so it's hard to figure he just didn't understand what he was doing.

Really, if he's that unhappy being a Royal (and I can understand why a person would hate it), he should bail. Looks like he wants to have it both ways . . . [/b]
1) Harry knows that he is paprazzi fodder.

2)You are making assumptions about whether or not he likes being a Royal. He appears to enjoy partying like most single Englishman his age. Unlike his older brother William, Harry, like his uncle Andrew, has never been groomed to be the King of England.

3) Just who the bleedin' h3ll are you to judge how a 'Royal' should behave? It's between him and his family. No one else.
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#778203 - 01/13/05 04:26 PM Re: Coffee Room Post
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David:
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Very good. And good to see Chris "angry political goose" Morris high up, too, despite having grievously overestimated the collective intelligence.


David
Yep. Couldn't believe he made it into the top 10. Especially after the Crazy World of Arthur Brown episode. ;\)
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#778204 - 01/13/05 04:29 PM Re: Coffee Room Post
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At this point they would make no less sense if they were speaking French. \:D

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#778205 - 01/13/05 04:39 PM Re: Coffee Room Post
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sarah_blueparrot,

Your post adding some factual information was much appreciated, but really, do you think that in wearing that particular symbol on an armband with a brown shirt he was attempting to emulate the founder of the Boy Scouts or Rudyard Kipling??? Call me cynical, but I just can't buy that.

I agree that a young, well-educated man should certainly have known better. This perhaps even more so as his family's "business" seems to be based on public relations, for the most part. But, he is young, and he has apologized. In my opinion, time for the media to move on.

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#778206 - 01/13/05 05:10 PM Re: Coffee Room Post
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Another set of reactions: http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/526880.html


20 is above the "age of reason". To me it would seem offensive not only to Jews, but to Brits who served in WWII or survived the Blitz. Why does England still have a royal family, please tell me? Aren't there revolutions or something for this kind of thing?

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#778207 - 01/13/05 05:37 PM Re: Coffee Room Post
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The King or Queen of England is also our head of state. Same with Australia and New Zealand. Constitutional monarchy rocks!
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#778208 - 01/13/05 05:40 PM Re: Coffee Room Post
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Ren - "The King or Queen of England is also our head of state."

My condolences. We knew enough to kick them out completely.

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#778209 - 01/13/05 05:57 PM Re: Coffee Room Post
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You don't suppose he was just "subtly" alluding to his Hanoverian heritage?

Bad form, anyway.
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#778210 - 01/13/05 06:19 PM Re: Coffee Room Post
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Originally posted by Jeffrey:
Ren - "The King or Queen of England is also our head of state."

My condolences. We knew enough to kick them out completely.
We would've kicked them out had it not been for some trickery by the government.

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#778211 - 01/13/05 06:26 PM Re: Coffee Room Post
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I don't know anything about the kid, but I just watched a news story about this little flap, and a fellow who knows the family was being interviewed. He said the kid isn't very bright, a fair bit slow.
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#778212 - 01/13/05 07:03 PM Re: Coffee Room Post
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3) Just who the bleedin' h3ll are you to judge how a 'Royal' should behave? It's between him and his family. No one else.
Yeah, good point. People shouldn't have opinions about the propriety of the behavior of public figures. Harry should have told everyone it was none of their business.

:rolleyes:
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#778213 - 01/13/05 07:35 PM Re: Coffee Room Post
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An' cheers t' you luv. T' royals is t'royals 'ey dance to a diff'ren drummer t'an wee's common workin' folk. You'se got t' keep y'er bleedin' nose 'out'ta other's privates I say so's t'ey keeps 'er noses 'out'ta o'rs - if yo's catch me's meanin'. ;\) Another pint fo' m'lady friend 'ere. ;\)
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#778214 - 01/13/05 07:50 PM Re: Coffee Room Post
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Originally posted by sarah_blueparrot:
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Originally posted by Googlism:
Isn't it obvious that the Nazi emblem is a controversial and extremely negative icon? Why the f*** did he have to choose that? [/b]
You might want to consider reading this article (from a reputable newspaper) before you start splurging asterisks all over my page. [/b]
Ok, let me restate the phrase, "Isn't it obvious that the Nazi emblem is considered to be an icon of evil and hatred?"

The general public, including me, associate the emblem as one used by the Nazis. In fact, I think not many people also know about the previous use and meaning of the emblem. But put yourself in Harry's shoes before attending the party. Would you want to wear something that is deemed as an extremely controversial and negative icon? Even if he were to wear the emblem without any intention of insulting Jews (or any other group who despise the emblem), wouldn't it make sense to explain his real intentions before going to the party, and also explaining his intentions in his apology?
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#778215 - 01/13/05 07:54 PM Re: Coffee Room Post
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Cindy - He also wore a full Nazi uniform, not just an armband. According to Larry King Live, it was a "bad taste" party with the theme of "natives and colonialists". Again, 20 is old enough to vote, to drink, to volunteer for the army. The PR flacks are trying to make this die down, but I hope it doesn't.

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#778216 - 01/13/05 08:02 PM Re: Coffee Room Post
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Ah, he was suckered in by a "bad taste" party. That makes it doubly weird that his "handlers" (who you would expect to be on Permanent High Alert with that kid) wouldn't notice their charge taking to the streets in full Nazi regalia.

That would make a good thread: What would you wear to a "Bad Taste Party?"

I think I'd answer "My regular clothes." ;\)
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#778217 - 01/13/05 08:05 PM Re: Coffee Room Post
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His older brother went dressed as a leopard.

So what do you suggest be done? Disinherit the kid for being slow? Put him in the army? Oh, wait a minute; he's going into the army. That should straighten him out- next time he'll go the party dressed as a 'Worker On Government Service' or a Zulu king.
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#778218 - 01/13/05 08:16 PM Re: Coffee Room Post
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Send him to Iraq.
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#778219 - 01/13/05 11:05 PM Re: Coffee Room Post
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