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#783851 - 03/12/02 03:46 PM Watch these:
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I don't know if any of you have seen these certain short movies, but do it now! And if you know about them, don't tell anybody.
http://home.kimo.com.tw/netspooky/kikia/

Also,
http://www.stonetable.org/files/whatswrong.swf

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#783852 - 03/12/02 08:10 PM Re: Watch these:
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Recommend the second one (under the also)- it's the better of the 2. Took me a while to figure out what was wrong with the picture - had to examine the fine detail.

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#783853 - 03/12/02 08:41 PM Re: Watch these:
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I couldn't get the first one to load -- maybe the site was too busy.

I did find what was wrong with the 2nd one, though, & I'm not usually good at games like that...
-Brad

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#783854 - 03/12/02 09:31 PM Re: Watch these:
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Second one was interesting. To say the least, I was surprised to find the error and it was so obvious after I saw it...
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#783855 - 03/12/02 09:42 PM Re: Watch these:
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#783856 - 03/12/02 09:42 PM Re: Watch these:
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I liked them both! The first one is probably better for people who read Chinese, but I think most people will get it. The second one, as the others have said, will have you slapping your forehead saying "DUH!" when you finally figure it out!
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#783857 - 03/12/02 09:48 PM Re: Watch these:
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Er, some of you guys seemingly aren't looking hard enough (or long enough, hint hint).

Stare for a LONG time at that second picture, the answer will come to you clearly, I guarantee it.

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#783858 - 03/12/02 11:47 PM Re: Watch these:
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aznxk3vi7, that second one was a scream!

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#783859 - 03/12/02 11:50 PM Re: Watch these:
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I hate it when everyone gets one of these puzzles but me. I can never see the airplane in the picture full of dots, either.

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#783860 - 03/13/02 06:20 PM Re: Watch these:
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Steve - turn your speakers on, there's some audio cues after a while.

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#783861 - 03/13/02 08:57 PM Re: Watch these:
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Yikes! Those were pretty funny.

Here's one a friend sent to me sometime ago. I'm not sure if the author of this site was serious or did the thing as "tongue-in-cheek" goof, but it's definitely whacky (imho). Crank your speakers and get ready to rock:
http://members.aol.com/tributetoamerica/dontstopbelievin.html

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#783862 - 03/13/02 10:50 PM Re: Watch these:
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Well, here's my contribution....

The first one is safe for all viewing. Enlarge it to full screen for best viewing.

I'm a cow-1

If you are easily offended, you should not view the second one however. So watch it at your own risk. If you watch it, don't blame me - I told you not to do it!

I'm a cow - 2 (warning!)

This one takes a long time to load. Scroll to the bottom of the page and wait for the "play" button to show up. It's hilarious - but not for the faint of heart.... Again, enlarge to full screen for best viewing.

[ March 13, 2002: Message edited by: Larry ]
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#783863 - 03/13/02 11:21 PM Re: Watch these:
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Well Larry, not being faint of heart I went straight for the number 2. You weren't lyin'. Seems the cow is not the only one into leather. \:D
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#783864 - 03/13/02 11:29 PM Re: Watch these:
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If we're all adding little clips, here's mine.
http://www.madblast.com/oska/humor_bin.swf

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#783865 - 03/13/02 11:38 PM Re: Watch these:
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#783866 - 03/14/02 12:50 AM Re: Watch these:
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Ok, one more.....

Monkey sniff

\:D \:D
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#783867 - 03/15/02 09:17 PM Re: Watch these:
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Ok..... I can't believe no one liked the monkey sniff.........
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#783868 - 03/15/02 10:12 PM Re: Watch these:
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Hehe, I love that monkey, but I've seen that many years ago... but it's still great!

No offense, but I don't like that Osama video, because it is spreading hate and violence, and it's against my religious beliefs. I believe no matter what the deed, forgiveness is always attainable.

Please no more discussion of that, any more funny videos?

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#783869 - 03/16/02 09:32 AM Re: Watch these:
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Originally posted by aznxk3vi17:


No offense, but I don't like that Osama video, because it is spreading hate and violence, and it's against my religious beliefs. I believe no matter what the deed, forgiveness is always attainable.

[/b]



Interesting you saw it that way. I saw it exactly the opposite -- making fun of the cavalier way in which Bush is attacking other people, showing how ludicrous he is in this endeavor. The ending, with a large chunk of the world blown away, was to me an indication the person who put it together saw what we were/are doing as ludicrous and dangerous.

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#783870 - 03/16/02 11:27 AM Re: Watch these:
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Good point.

If any of you have ever heard of Dance Dance Revolution, here are some movies of people in action:
www.bemanix.com/movie.asp

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#783871 - 03/16/02 01:55 PM Re: Watch these:
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Originally posted by George061875:

making fun of the cavalier way in which Bush is attacking other people, showing how ludicrous he is in this endeavor. The ending, with a large chunk of the world blown away, was to me an indication the person who put it together saw what we were/are doing as ludicrous and dangerous.[/b]


And how would you handle this George? Would you call a meeting and try to negotiate with them? Or would you just go ahead and give them control of the government?

It scares the hell out of me to think that there might be many people in this country who are as misinformed as you are and who are allowed to vote. Here's the facts for you: there's nothing cavalier about it. And for you to think that requires putting your political agenda ahead of common sense. Someone has to have the guts to stand up to people who have no concern for human life, and no agenda other than to kill people. The people Bush has targeted are not innocent civilians who have done nothing wrong. They are criminals and murderers. They are fanatics who have no intention of following standard rules of engagement, which means limiting your targets to military ones. They attack civilian targets just as quickly as they will a military one. In fact, they prefer civilian targets. Their motivation is hate. They would as soon kill you as look at you, simply because you are standing there.

These people do not deserve to live. They should be hunted down and killed where they stand. They are a danger to the entire civilized world. And they have no intention of honoring any rules of civility. They are only interested in destroying everyone and everything they can. *That* is the danger, George. That, and people who support them, as you apparently do.

Thank your lucky stars that I am not in charge. Because I *would* have done it differently. Instead of hunting down the criminals, I would have rounded up every innocent man, woman, and child, and transported them out of the country, and then nuked the whole thing. I would have left a scorched hole in the ground.

And in this country, I would have started a program of deportation of anyone who thought the way you do. We need more Americans, and fewer liberals in this country.
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#783872 - 03/16/02 03:39 PM Re: Watch these:
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Larry,

I thought about responding to this but I knew you would be along. Now, after tossing out a hyperbolic comment like "cavalier way in which Bush is attacking other people", watch how shocked and surprised he is at what came back. ;\)
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#783873 - 03/16/02 08:52 PM Re: Watch these:
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Originally posted by Larry:


And how would you handle this George? [/b]


How? I would recognize that men like Osama Bin Laden cannot do what they do unless they can find others to do the work for them. Why are there 1000's of terrorists? Because of the US blind support of Israel and the US decision to place troops in the Middle East. It is also because the current rulers in the Middle East deny the legitimate economic and political aspirations of their people.

So, my answer....

1. Force Israel to create the Palestinian State. It is time. We have made Israel secure. We can now do the same for the Palestinians. Use some of the billions we are spending in this war to stabilize and build the new state.

2. Force higher fuel efficiency of our automobiles, and force them to move to the hybrid cars and alternative fuels. Become independent of foreign oil and remove ALL of our troops from the Middle East.

3. As opposed to what George 1 did in sending our children to prop up the distatorships of the Middle East, use our political and economic might and force the dictatorships in the Middle East to open their societies up -- freedom of the press is the first thing they must have.

Osama Bin Laden must have an army of terrorists to do what he does. He only has one because we have been focused solely on Israel and making sure the oil fields are secure -- and hence we have traded away the future of the Islamic youth for Israel and low gasoline prices. Change this and Osama no longer has his army and the US and the world will be secure.

It might also be a far better place.

And yes, Bush's defining the attack as an act of war, instead of an act of terrorism was cavalier. His defining an "axis of evil" is cavalier. His demanding that all countries choose either His way or be defined as in the terrorist camp is cavalier. Sending American troops to every little country He thinks has terrorists is cavalier.

Is it really too much to expect the United States, with its strong values of freedom, openness, equality and peace to export these values to the world instead of war?

Are we that limited in our creativity of how to lead the world? I think not. We created a free and secure Europe without war. Why can't we do the same thing in other places in the world? And specifically the Middle East because it is the birthplace of the terrorist threat against us?

But then, killing is always so much easier, and feeds our lower nature's demand for revenge.

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#783874 - 03/16/02 10:51 PM Re: Watch these:
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There is so much wrong about this I really don't know where to begin. I also don't see the point. However, you speak of changing the Middle East with our political and economic might. Fat chance without military might to back it up. You say we created a free and secure Europe without war. I seem to recall one hell of a war over there and we were right in the middle of it. Force fuel economy to acheive energy independence? Could not work even at the point of a gun. Force Israel to create a Palestinian state? The Palestinians will never be satisfied with anything but the destruction of Israel. I could go on and on but why bother. Why should I expend anymore effort trying to make you see what is right under your nose. This is a waste of my time.
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#783875 - 03/16/02 10:57 PM Re: Watch these:
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 Quote:
Originally posted by George061875:

Because of the US blind support of Israel and the US decision to place troops in the Middle East. It is also because the current rulers in the Middle East deny the legitimate economic and political aspirations of their people.

1. Force Israel to create the Palestinian State. It is time. We have made Israel secure. We can now do the same for the Palestinians. Use some of the billions we are spending in this war to stabilize and build the new state.
[/b]


Blind support? Where did you go to school? There already *is* a Palestinian state, George. It's called Jordan[/b]. The land that is called Israel has belonged to Isreal since the dawn of recorded history. The idea that it somehow belonged to the Arabs is a myth. It doesn't, it won't, and it never did. There are 24 Arab nations that surround Israel, and Israel is but a little dot on the map in relation to their size. Support of Israel? You bet! If the Palestinians want to blame someone for taking their land, let them turn to Jordan and blame them. They are the ones who took their land, not Israel. The arabs have no right to the land of Israel, and they have no right to another state. All this is is political propaganda, which you obviously have bought into because you don't know the true history of the region. So I'll give you a couple of places to go learn it:

It has always belonged to the Jews

The Arabs are the enterlopers

The truth is, we aren't supporting Israel enough. What we ought to do is make Jordan give back the land they stole from Israel, and then load up all the so called "Palestinians" and put them back into Jordan and Syria where they belong. The Palestinians don't deserve another state, and they don't deserve the land that belongs to Israel. Oil has nothing to do with it.


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2. Force higher fuel efficiency of our automobiles, and force them to move to the hybrid cars and alternative fuels. Become independent of foreign oil and remove ALL of our troops from the Middle East.[/b]


Then are you willing to allow drilling in the area of Alaska that the rest of the liberals are screaming bloody murder about? I agree we should reduce our dependence on foreign oil. But giving dreamy eyed pie in the sky ideas is of no help. The entire world depends on oil, not just us. As a result, someone has to see that the idiots who live on the land where the oil is aren't able to disrupt the rest of the world as they act like a bunch of stone age fools.

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3. As opposed to what George 1 did in sending our children to prop up the distatorships of the Middle East, use our political and economic might and force the dictatorships in the Middle East to open their societies up -- freedom of the press is the first thing they must have. [/b]


More starry eyed liberal thought that ignores reality. Before this can work, you have to be dealing with people who are capable of being rational. The arabs aren't capable of being rational. You can't reason with them. So you aren't going to get them to open up anything.


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and hence we have traded away the future of the Islamic youth for Israel and low gasoline prices. Change this and Osama no longer has his army and the US and the world will be secure. [/b]


Bull ****, George. The Arabs [/b] traded away the future of their youth, by feeding them fanatical lies and propaganda, and by focusing on eliminating Israel. This isn't about a "Palestinian state", it's about eliminating Israel. And it isn't going to happen. They need to get over it. Israel is[/b]. You bet we'll support them. And nothing you do or nothing you will say will cause Osama and his criminals to change their ways and settle down to live in peace with the rest of the world. They have led you down a primrose path, George. They don't care about Israel, or the "Palestinians". They only care about what's in it for them. They want power. They want to rule over someone, preferrably everyone. Islam is their excuse. And liberals who buy into your line of thinking are their tools.

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And yes, Bush's defining the attack as an act of war, instead of an act of terrorism was cavalier. His defining an "axis of evil" is cavalier. His demanding that all countries choose either His way or be defined as in the terrorist camp is cavalier. Sending American troops to every little country He thinks has terrorists is cavalier.[/b]


I guess you thought when Ronald Reagan called the USSR The Evil Empire you considered him to be cavalier, too? Well, where is the USSR now, George? The truth is that Bush has far more vision than you'll ever have. He knew exactly what he was doing when he made that statement. It wasn't a mistake. It was said on purpose. And it was about time.

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Is it really too much to expect the United States, with its strong values of freedom, openness, equality and peace to export these values to the world instead of war? [/b]

Pacifist BS, George. You can't export these things to fanatics who don't understand anything other than brute force. You assume too much when you assume these people are capable of accepting logic and reason, or even understanding it. The cold reality is, they only understand brutality. So you can't reason with them. You can only hunt them down and kill them.

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But then, killing is always so much easier, and feeds our lower nature's demand for revenge.[/b]


Ah yes. Elevate yourself to a position of superior civility by accusing those who fight your battles for you of being mere brutes. Wake up George. It wasn't a bunch of Midwestern farmers who flew a plane into a building full of arabs somewhere in the middle east and killed them all. Revenge has nothing to do with it. The world is faced with a large and entrenched group of fanatical criminals who are hiding behind a religion and using the political landscape as their excuse to terrorize the world. They were able to become strong because for the last 8 years no one was watching the store. We now have someone in office who has the guts to do what needs to be done to correct the problems created by 8 years of neglect. More neglect by trying to reason with fanatics is not the answer. It's time to quit talking and start kicking ass. And that's just what's happening.
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#783876 - 03/17/02 12:15 AM Re: Watch these:
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War became the option, if not the only option, the moment Bush2 declared the attack was an act of war. Had he declared it a terrorist act, we would have had innumberable other options. But they are gone to us now, and our children are being killed, because Bush2 keft us with only one option -- to attack back.

Up until WWII, the typical course of action was for the victor to vanquish and punish the loser. But the US was the strongest nation by far in 1945 and we rose to our higher values and decided that we would not do that. Rather, we would rebuild our enemies, give them a strong economic system and a strong democratic system. We did. It worked marvelously and we changed the course of history and the way enemies are treated in defeat.

On 9/11, we were again the strongest nation, by far, of any on earth. No one even close. We had any option we wanted. No one would have stopped us. We could have sought out the terrorists, without a war in Afganistan. We could have rounded them up, and put them on trial at the World Court, where the entire world could judge them, rather than plan for secret, kangaroo courts on US ships. We could have created and led an international coaliton NOT to kill people, but to expand freedom and free markets. We could have raised the world up to our standards as a nation, rather than lowering ourselves to the historical standards that the world had always used to fight violence -- more violence. It has never worked in the past. It will not work now.

Now, just six months later, the hatred of the US grows, rather than diminishes. Our allies are putting the brakes on Bush2's efforts to expand our military operations to other countries because they see the foolhardiness of it. Rather than leading the world in a new direction, a direction based on American values, we are being reined in like a petulant bully.

What happened on 9/11 was a terrible, terrible thing. But it could have been used for so much good -- America could have changed historical trends again. But we didn't. We chose, instead, to go to war.

How very sad for us and for the world.

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#783877 - 03/17/02 12:44 AM Re: Watch these:
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You seem to forget that before we could rebuild our enemies we had to KICK THEIR BUTTS. You are leaving out an important step there.

As far as rounding up the terrorists and putting them on trial in the world court how in the heck are you going to go into Afghanistan (for instance) and round up terrorists without starting a war. Just show up with warrants and say we're here to pick up these gentlemen? You are truly living in a dream world. Even if you could get them in front of a "world court" I can only imagine the sort of rough justice that would be meted out. It would be a long drawn out circus. And this is the sort of response you contemplate to the depravity committed against the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. I used to think guys like you would need a building to fall on you to see the light but now I can see that I was quite literally wrong. Even that has no effect.
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#783878 - 03/17/02 01:00 AM Re: Watch these:
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I agree with JBryan. Terrorists need to know that there will be NO SAFE HAVEN for them. This is not the same kind of enemy that opposed the civilized world in World War II. This is a network of cells, some sleeping cells. They need training, the kind of training they got in Afghanistan. We have to physically disrupt that wherever we find it. We should make every nation with a thought of hosting this hoodlums scared out of their minds to contemplate it for a single second!

Without this training and organization, we'll have a few crazies on our hand, but not the kind of threat we faced on Sept. 11. So yes, we must face world opposition and go it alone if we have to. Because we have to. I'm less concerned about what the world, or specifically Europe, thinks of us. They don't share all of our values. It is the values in our founding documents that need to change world opinion, not world opinion change our values.

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#783879 - 03/17/02 02:19 AM Re: Watch these:
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Originally posted by George061875:

We could have rounded them up, and put them on trial at the World Court, where the entire world could judge them, rather than plan for secret, kangaroo courts on US ships.

How very sad for us and for the world.[/b]



The World Court? This World Court?

The destruction of the US constitution part 1
The destruction of the US Constitution part 2
The destruction of the US Constitution part 3
The destruction of the US Constitution part 4
The destruction of the US Constitution part 5

That World Court George? What other rights would you like to give away?

World Court my hind end. The criminals had US justice coming to them, not justice determined by a bunch of little rogue nations that hate us anyway.

The government of the United States should officially renounce the very existence of the world court, and place them on notice that not only will they absolutely not recognize their authority in any instance, but that if they try to hold jurisdiction over any American citizen they will be destroyed just as surely as the Taliban was destroyed. And then they should toss the communist UN out on their ear. And anyone who supports the very idea of a world court should be put on one of those "kangaroo court" ships and tried for treason, then shot at dawn.

You are one seriously misguided individual, George.
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#783880 - 03/17/02 09:18 AM Re: Watch these:
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Penny:
I agree with JBryan. Terrorists need to know that there will be NO SAFE HAVEN for them. This is not the same kind of enemy that opposed the civilized world in World War II. This is a network of cells, some sleeping cells. They need training, the kind of training they got in Afghanistan. We have to physically disrupt that wherever we find it. We should make every nation with a thought of hosting this hoodlums scared out of their minds to contemplate it for a single second![/b]


Penny

On the face of it, these seems logical and reasonable. But it makes for a policy which does not provide the security we all want.

Perhaps the best example I can give is that of Israel. What you have espoused is the policy of Israel. Clearly, it does not work. Israel's actions have done nothing more than generate additional hatred for them, additional violence and continuing attacks on Israel.

Do you think Israel would be under attack now if after the 1967 war they had done the same thing as the US did with Germany and Japan after WWII? If Israel had been doing this the past 35 years, instead of following the policy you and others feel is the way to go, Israel would be secure today. Maybe not loved, but secure.

Is this not what we really want? Security and lack of terrorist attacks? The why should we follow what is obviously a failed policy when we, in our own history, know what works?

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