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If measure 26-48 (3-year tax increase) does not pass in Multnomah County (city of Portland) next week: 1). Over 800 teachers in the Portland School District will be laid off. 2). Over 200 felons (which will included rapists, armed robbers, etc.) will be immediately released from jail. This tactic already occured earlier this year, when a tax measure failed, and the news cameras showed the very happy prisoners being released (I think it was around 60 that were released, not sure). Our government punishing us. . . 3). Elderly will lose substantial assistance provided by city/county agencies. Are similar scare tactics going on around other parts of the country, assuming we are not the only ones to be faced with voting on increasing taxes via a Local Option? The above threats or realities (depends on how you look at it I suppose) are being broadcast on TV, radio, and of course detailed almost daily in local print media. Anybody interested in buying the State of Oregon. . .?
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This is something I follow from the "alcohol and drug treatment" world (my professional field.) Some 2,000 methadone patients (former heroin addicts) were cut off cold turkey about 6 weeks ago. We presume that the vast majority will return to heroin (or oyxcontin/oyxcodone), and will feed their habits through petty property crimes (heroin addicts, for those who aren't aware, have a lower rate of violent crime than the general population, and virtually NEVER commit a sex crime). But the "crime rate" will go down. "How could that be?" It is simple: because there is no money for municipal courts to do arraignments, police are given orders not to arrest unless absolutely necessary, or to concentrate on violent crimes only. Arrests go down, arraignments go down, public defenses go down, convictions go down, imprisonments go down. Now you mark my words: two years from now, some conservative ideologue from the Hoover Institution is going to study the Portland experiment and conclude that cutting the provision of social services actually lowers the crime rate. Save this posting -- you watch. Meanwhile -- it has been good for Washington State. We have a shortage of alcohol and drug counselors. More than 300 have been let go in Portland alone, and we are actively recruiting there.
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I think the initial question begs an answer to a larger issue.
What services should government provide, when limited funds are available?
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Originally posted by shantinik: Now you mark my words: two years from now, some conservative ideologue from the Hoover Institution is going to study the Portland experiment and conclude that cutting the provision of social services actually lowers the crime rate. Save this posting -- you watch.
I believe crime rate statistics are compiled from numbers of crimes reported. Not numbers of arrests, crimes prosecuted or perpetrators convicted.
Better to light one small candle than to curse the %&#$@#! darkness. :t:
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Jolly -- it is a fair question, but you should know that, at least in Oregon's case, it has gone well past that. The huge cuts are in prisons, jails, cops, courts, schools, universities, social services of all kinds, foster care, medical care for the indigent, etc. Everyone pretty much agrees that this level of cuts result in more costs being passed on in other ways to the public, in higher crime rates, poorer job opportunities and more poorly trained workforce, higher use of emergencies rooms and higher cost medical interventions, higher incidence of child abuse and neglect, etc.
In Washington State, we have been able to demonstrate, just in my own field, that $1 spent on alcohol/drug treatment saves the state budget $3.70. As a result, even though they are cutting $2.6 billion from the state budget, our budget is actually being increased (by about $16.5 million over two years.) But there are places like mental health and ageing where they can't show "cost savings", where the human toll is devastating.
But it is worse, much worse, in Oregon.
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Originally posted by JBryan: Originally posted by shantinik: [b]Now you mark my words: two years from now, some conservative ideologue from the Hoover Institution is going to study the Portland experiment and conclude that cutting the provision of social services actually lowers the crime rate. Save this posting -- you watch.
I believe crime rate statistics are compiled from numbers of crimes reported. Not numbers of arrests, crimes prosecuted or perpetrators convicted. [/b]I am looking at a book of FBI crime statistics, and a report of the Washington State Association of Sheriffs and Police Chiefs as we speak -- I am tabulating numbers for a report I am currently working on. They (and I) use arraignments, arrests, and convictions. There are crime indexes that use "reported crime" (I have those, too.) Those have usually been thought to be unreliable as 1) reports are duplicated; and 2) when people feel police won't respond, crime goes unreported. Of course, as I noted myself, the Hoover Institution (or some such) will use the arrest data, because it will conveniently prove the point they wish to make.
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Quoting Jolly. I think the initial question begs an answer to a larger issue.
What services should government provide, when limited funds are available? With respect for your question, there could be an equally important issue. What services do people want, that they are willing to pay for, and which ones are they willing to do without? I believe this already is a vital issue for states, not just the ones mentioned. At what point do citizens of a government, state, city, country while saying "no new taxes", accept the fact that services they are accustomed to can no longer be provided? The money simply isn't there. Sure it could be scare tactics, BUT maybe, it's not! Eventually, time comes when you pay the piper.
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It isn't scare tactics in Oregon: the methadone clinics (actually all state-funded outpatient clinics) have already been closed, and the staff laid off. The "soft" moratorium on arrests and arraignments is already in effect, and the jails have been lidded.
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Shantinik, Very interesting information that you post!
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I put together a list of programs that support our school district. These are not part of any budget cut, at least not yet. This is a partial list, those support programs (state and federal monies) that are part of any school district in the country. In many (though not all) cases, these are mandated and must be paid for from the general Education Service District budget: Alternative Instruction Method (AIM) (Special Ed) Child Evaluation & Service Center (Special Ed) Curriculum, Instruction & Evaluation Services (CIE Services) Day Treatment and Residential Programs (Special Ed) Early Childhood Education (ECE) English Language Learners (CIE Services) ESD Records (ESDR) (Special Ed) ESD Scheduling (503) Functional Behavior Evaluations (Special Ed) High School Evaluations "Connections" (Special Ed) Home School Procedures Improving Instruction (CIE Services) Library Media Assistance Life Enrichment Education Program(LEEP) Mastery in Motion Services (CIE Services) Migrant Education (CIE Services) Migrant Education/English Language Learners Oregon Head Start Prekindergarten Program (ECE) Oregon Public Education Network (OPEN) Professional-Technical Education (CIE Services) Referrals to Early Childhood Program Referrals School System - Student Information System (NIS) Special Education Office of Staff Development and Technical Assistance Services (CIE Services) Shantink could undoubtedly provide a much longer list, which deals with his specialized area of substance abuse. Now. . . as a society, what do we do? Do we decide to cut programs designed by the state to help migrants, children from dirt-poor families, children from abusive homes, mentally and/or physically handicapped children, etc. etc. Which ones? Or, do we decide that letting rapists out of jail is preferable to cuts in some social service programs? The kids and adults that are helped in these programs NEED this help. Sure, there are undoubtedly a few that scam the system. But overall, these agencies and programs benefit the lowest rungs of our society. On tonight's local news, it was reported that of the 80+ prisoners that were released in January, 32 did not show up for their court date, 47 have been arrested again. The local news followed one of the guys let out in January, and within a short while, he stole a car and was arrested again. Now, the county is seeking additional funding from the State, as they do not have the funds to appoint legal counsel for these prisoners. And of course, everyone is entitled to a lawyer. How do we decide where to cut (as a society), and what do we base these decisions upon? As shantinik pointed out, what looks like a savings is not always the case, and selective data can always be used to provide a desired statistic. Or do we decide (as a society) to keep raising taxes, adding more and more programs, build larger prisons, throw in the towell, teach all children equally (albeit poorly) and say, "socialism was inevitable." And the first cuts you -- as a taxpayer -- would make, would be . . . ?
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Alternative Instruction Method (AIM) (Special Ed) Child Evaluation & Service Center (Special Ed) Day Treatment and Residential Programs (Special Ed) ESD Records (ESDR) (Special Ed) ESD Scheduling (503) Functional Behavior Evaluations (Special Ed) High School Evaluations "Connections" (Special Ed) What are these and why? Why are there seven separate special ed programs? Why not one?
Curriculum, Instruction & Evaluation Services (CIE Services) Cut Early Childhood Education (ECE) Cut English Language Learners (CIE Services) Cut Home School Procedures Is this a heading or program? Cut Improving Instruction (CIE Services) Cut Library Media Assistance Cut Life Enrichment Education Program(LEEP) WTF is this? Cut! Mastery in Motion Services (CIE Services) Ditto-cut! Migrant Education (CIE Services) Cut Migrant Education/English Language Learners Cut Oregon Head Start Prekindergarten Program (ECE) Prekindergarten? Please...cut! Oregon Public Education Network (OPEN) Cut Professional-Technical Education (CIE Services) Cut Referrals to Early Childhood Program Is this a program or heading? Cut School System - Student Information System (NIS) Cut Special Education Office of Staff Development and Technical Assistance Services (CIE Services) Cut
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You know, if they'd just build a school, hire 8 teachers, and teach reading, writing, math, geography and history, they could save a lot of money, and the kids might actually learn something. Looking at the list (which Gryphon did a good job of paring down already) it looks like 90% of your education budget is blown on waste.
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Originally posted by rvaga: If measure 26-48 (3-year tax increase) does not pass in Multnomah County (city of Portland) next week:
California is getting one of these too, but the last I heard some of the tax increases are permanant and others stretch on for 5 years. The largest component is a 1/2% sales tax increase, on top of the 8.25% already levvied in Los Angeles County. One small problem, however. The tax increases pay for loans taken out to pay off shortfalls for THIS year. Nothing has been said about what they will do about paying for the shortfalls they will have NEXT year, and there are no plans to scale back government services to balance the budget. What's wrong with this picture?
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And while we're talking about education, here's some sample problems from the test that many school systems are giving for graduation. Florida has been in the news recently, but I posted comments about Michigan a month or so ago. Note: the students are given pictures and formulas for area and volume for various geometric shapes on a reference sheet as well as the pythagorean theorum, formulas for slope intercept, distance and midway measurements between points, distance/rate/time, simple interest, and conversions. They are allowed to use calculators. They only have to get 40% correct to graduate high school, and they get five tries! Drat, the test is in pdf and I can't cut and paste, but some problems are: Q1. (pictures) Parcel A is 200' wide by 350' long. Parcel B is proportionate and is 300' wide by X' long. How many square feet are in parcel B? a. 70,000 b. 87,500 c. 157,500 d. 227,500 Q2. A science lab needs a right circular cylinder container that holds exactly 15 gallons of liquid and is 24 inches tall. A reference manual states that 231 cubic inches is equivalent to 1 gallon. What is the approximate radius, in inches, of the container? a. 1.92 inches b. 6.78 inches c. 22.99 inches d. 45.98 inches Remember, every formula you need for volume, area, etc. is given to you. All you need to know is how to multiply and divide! Q3. If -5 is multiplied by a number greater than 1, which of the following describes the result? a. a number between -5 and 5 b. a number greater than 5 c. a number less than -5 d. a number greater than -5 Q4. An electrician charges a $45 fee to make a house call plus an hourly labor rate. The electrician will work at one house for 3 hours and charge $145.50 for the job. Determine the electrician's hourly rate, show your equations and work. Q5. A satellite is in the shape of a cube that measures 5' on each edge. If the satellite weighs 24 pounds per cubic foot, then what is the total weight in pounds of the satellite? Another question has an object on graph paper with a scale, asking how large the object is. Another question asks about time it takes to travel down a river using an average speed. There are questions using graphs and tables that I can't paste or quickly describe, and shape volumes, but you get the picture. How stupid can our kids be not to be able to get 40% correct by the time they are seniors in high school? How is this test biased against minorities? The reading test is typical. You read a paragraph or short story then answer quesions about it: what word best describes the story (frightening, random, timeless); what does the author mean by this sentence; the animal in the story was (cold, confused, large, weak). Science is similar to the above two areas, although it can be argued it is the hardest. You need to understand the simple concept of a catalyst and earth/moon/sun positions for example, and be able to think logically.
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Originally posted by rvaga: I put together a list of programs that support our school district. These are not part of any budget cut, at least not yet. This is a partial list, those support programs (state and federal monies) that are part of any school district in the country. In many (though not all) cases, these are mandated and must be paid for from the general Education Service District budget:
The reason we have them currently (whether we like them or not) is that they are federally mandated and enforced by the Bush Administration and its massive expansion of the Department of Education. But, wait, there is more. The requirements of No Child Left Behind is that everyone is to be tested -- NO EXCEPTIONS. In Washington State, we have (I am NOT making this up, and when I worked for the State Board of Health, we had to figure out how services were to be provided) 18 children in comas attending public schools. The Bush Administration is requiring (I am being totally serious) the state of Washington to come up with a standardized test for these 18 children to show that they are learning effectively. Representatives of the Rod Paige's Department of Stalinist (whoops, slipped :p ) Education were in the state recently and made it quite clear that when they said everyone, they meant EVERYONE. As for "blown on waste", you'll get no argument from me!
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Originally posted by rvaga: Or, do we decide that letting rapists out of jail is preferable to cuts in some social service programs?
This sort of rhetorical question always posed when cuts in service become necessary. In California, the governor actually proposed eliminating the provision of artificial limbs from the Medical program as one of the programs first to go. So no, don't release the rapists, don't release the murderers. I could however, make a good case to release all of the drug offenders. I believe that in most states these make up a substantial percentage of those incarcerated, and housing them in jails is a colossal waste of money. Their crime is one of offending personal morals, not violence against others. Release the hookers too, and quit spending money to put them in in the first place. And the first cuts you -- as a taxpayer -- would make, would be . . . ? Hoo-boy! Where do I start? I'll start with Gryphon's list - one of the rare occasions where Gryphon, Larry and I agree. I'll bet a careful review of all of the programs the school districts administer could uncover about 50 other programs that - while nice to have - are not necessary. Medical care for illegal immigrants - other than emergency care and deportation - needs to be eliminated. This one is KILLING California. Scale back funding to fire departments. This one is a scacred cow - no politician dares to touch it. The fact though, is that the municipal fire departments have grown out of control, at a cost that far exceeds what is necessary to provide the required level of service. It is the only profession besides mattress-tester where you get paid to sleep. Cut maintenance of public landscaping exactly in half. Trimming a bush that needs it badly costs the same as trimming one that just needs a touch-up. Cutting a tall lawn is the same operation as cutting a shorter one. Eliminate municipal tree-trimming altogether for the year. Trees grow slowly - they'll wait. Eliminate all government cars except sprcialized cars like police cars and service trucks. Let the employees drive their own cars at 31 cents a mile like private sector employees do, and make sure each one provides their own insurance with the great State of California named as additional insured. This has become the norm in private industry as well. Keep all of the textbooks several years longer, unlesss the textbook publishers offer a half-price deal. If the info in them was any good this year, it will be just as good in five. If it wasn't any good this year, then fire everyone who was associated with the selection of these books immediately. And put the darn lockers back. Triple (at minimum) the cost of junior colleges for residents. $11 per unit is ridiculous. Eliminate all subsidies for professional sports franchises, especially the building and maintenance of stadiums. Eliminate Amtrak subsidies altogether. Close all military bases that have been identified as unnecessary, time and time again. Just do it. Stop paying farmers not to grow things. Either that, or pay me for not wiring buildings, and pay Rick Clark for not tuning pianos. Pay me double if I agree not to wire a piano. Stop subsidizing water costs so farmers can grow rice in California's central valley. It's a DESERT, fer cryin' out loud! Eliminate the prevailing-wage requirement from all public works projects. Eliminate the California Coastal Commission, and probably about 100 other commissions that serve no useful purpose. OK, your turn.
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gryphon,
Nice job in cutting, but I think done with humor, yes?
Every state has Educational Service Districts, or the same animal with a different name. Whoever above tried to pin these on Bush (again...), you couldn't be more wrong. This infrastructure for public education has been around for a couple of decades, in every state.
Maybe I am in effect "preaching to the choir," as most people may be well aware of the system in their respective states.
But just in case. . . gryphon, I found the RESA (Regional Educational Service Agency) for Wayne county, in your state of Michigan. This is just for Wayne county (wherever that is), and of course there are many other RESA's in Michigan.
OK, start cutting, but this time, it's your State:
Type of Service: ACCREDITATION Department: Helen Stanks Phone: (734) 334-1330
Type of Service: ADMINISTRATIVE TECHNOLOGIES Department: Dan Ramsey Phone: (734) 334-1339
Type of Service: ADMINISTRATIVE TECHNOLOGIES Department: Deborah Belaire
Type of Service: ADMINISTRATOR CERTIFICATION Department: Michael Kozicki
Type of Service: ADVENTURE CHALLENGE EDUCATION Department: Timo Anderson Phone: (734) 334-1489
Type of Service: AGRI-SCIENCE/HORTICULTURE PROGRAM Department: Rill Currie Phone: (734) 334-1405
Type of Service: ALTERNATIVE EDUCATION Department: Sherry Sparks Phone: (734) 334-1383
Type of Service: ARTS EDUCATION Department: Dr. Victoria Holley-Foster Phone: (734) 334-1507
Type of Service: ARTS EDUCATION Department: Brad Gravelle Phone: (734) 334-1318
Type of Service: ASPIRING PRINCIPALS ACADEMY Department: Cheryl Gambrell Phone: (734) 334-1382
Type of Service: ASSESSMENT Department: Jacquelyn Keys Phone: (734) 334-1575
Type of Service: ASSET-BUILDING SCHOOL CLIMATE Department: Kathy Gibson Phone: (734) 334-1608
Type of Service: ASSET-BUILDING SCHOOL CLIMATE Department: Adrea Kenyon-Unitis Phone: (734) 334-1609
Type of Service: ATTENDANCE AND MEMBERSHIP AUDITS Department: Beverly Finlayson Phone: (734) 334-1579
Type of Service: AUDIO VISUAL BUY PROGRAM Department: Tom Rowe Phone: (734) 334-1308
Type of Service: BENCHMARK ASSESSMENT PROGRAM Department: Bruce Fay Phone: (734) 334-1384
Type of Service: BILINGUAL Department: Dr. Kathleen Storchan Phone: (734) 334-1604
Type of Service: BILINGUAL Department: Deborah Szeman Phone: (734) 334-1544
Type of Service: BULLYING PREVENTION Department: Andrea Kenyon Unitis Phone: (734) 334-1609
Type of Service: BULLYING PREVENTION Department: Kathy Gibson Phone: (734) 334-1608
Type of Service: CABLE TELEVISION Department: Steven Michael Phone: (734) 334-1557
Type of Service: CAREER PREPARATION Department: Dr. Halyna Bialczyk Phone: (734) 334-1320
Type of Service: CHARTER SCHOOLS (Public School Academies) Department: Dr. Blandina Rose Phone: (734) 334-1564
Type of Service: CHARTER SCHOOLS (Public School Academies) Department: Dr. Phyllis E. Robinson Phone: 734-334-1583
Type of Service: CLASSROOM ASSESSMENT Department: Dr. Kristine Erickson Phone: 734-334-1422
Type of Service: COMPUTER SERVICES (See also Administrative Technologies) Department: Deborah Belaire Phone: (734) 334-1596
Type of Service: CONTINUING EDUCATION UNITS (CEUs) Department: Suleiman Hamdan Phone: (734) 334-1503
Type of Service: CRIMINAL RECORD CHECK SERVICE Department: Michael Kozicki Phone: (734) 334-1615
Type of Service: CURRICULUM RESOURCES Department: Dolores Veshka Phone: (734) 334-1593
Type of Service: DETROIT CEO DISTRICT Department: Tom Maridada Phone: (734) 334-1528
Type of Service: DISTANCE LEARNING Department: Carol Mayer Phone: (734) 334-1423
Type of Service: DIVERSITY Department: Michael Kozicki Phone: (734) 334-1615
Type of Service: DIVERSITY Department: Cheryl Gambrell Phone: 734-334-1382
Type of Service: EARLY CHILDHOOD & PRESCHOOL EDUCATION Department: Lena Montgomery Phone: (734) 334-1438
Type of Service: EARLY ON Department: Lena Montgomery Phone: (734) 334-1438
Type of Service: Education YES! Department: Helen E. Stanks Phone: (734) 334-1330
Type of Service: EMERGENCY SCHOOL OPERATIONS OFFICER Department: Kim Hooper Phone: (734) 334-1319
Type of Service: EMERGENCY SCHOOL OPERATIONS OFFICER Department: Rick Crosby Phone: (734) 334-1613
Type of Service: ENGLISH AS A SECOND LANGUAGE (ESL) Department: Deborah Szeman Phone: (734) 334-1544
Type of Service: ENGLISH LANGUAGE ARTS Department: Annena McCleskey Phone: (734) 334-1486
Type of Service: EVALUATION Department: Dr. Fredrica Frost Phone: (734) 334-1574
Type of Service: EVENT SERVICES Department: Darlene King Phone: (734) 334-1624
Type of Service: EVENTS Department: Darlene King Phone: (734) 334-1624
Type of Service: FAMILY INVOLVEMENT Department: Walter Garcia Phone: 734-334-1377
Type of Service: FINANCE Department: Steven Ezikian Phone: (734) 334-1451
Type of Service: FINANCE Department: Bruce Barrett Phone: (734) 334-1450
Type of Service: FOOD SERVICE & NUTRITION Department: Chuck Wolford Phone: (734) 334-1511
Type of Service: GIFTED AND TALENTED Department: Sheryl Sparks Phone: (734) 334-1383
Type of Service: GOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS Department: Kathleen Cummins Merry Phone: (734) 334-1820
Type of Service: GRANTS & RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT Department: Wayne Ruchgy Phone: (734) 334-1362
Type of Service: HEALTH EDUCATION Department: Kathy Gibson Phone: 734-334-1608
Type of Service: HEALTH EDUCATION Department: Adrea Kenyon-Unitis Phone: (734) 334-1609
Type of Service: INFORMATION LITERACY Department: Anupam Chugh Phone: 734.334.1420
Type of Service: INFORMATION SERVICES Department: Barbara Walker Phone: (734) 334-1545
Type of Service: INSTRUCTIONAL LEADERS INSTITUTE Department: Syndee Malek Phone: 734-334-1546
Type of Service: INSTRUCTIONAL STRATEGIES Department: Virginia Winters Phone: 734-334-1582
Type of Service: INSTRUCTIONAL STRATEGIES Department: Carolyn Rakotz Phone: 734-334-1367
Type of Service: INSTRUCTIONAL STRATEGIES Department: Dr. Joyce Fouts Phone: 734-334-1435
Type of Service: INSTRUCTIONAL TECHNOLOGIES Department: David Frankel Phone: (734) 334-1378
Type of Service: INSTRUCTIONAL TECHNOLOGIES Department: John McCarthy Phone: (734) 334-1440
Type of Service: INSTRUCTIONAL TECHNOLOGIES Department: Jackie Alshaibani Phone: (734) 334-1303
Type of Service: INSTRUCTIONAL TELEVISION/VIDEO Department: Anupam Chugh Phone: (734) 334-1420
Type of Service: INTERNET Department: James Rarus Phone: (734) 334-1349
Type of Service: LEGAL SERVICES Department: Michael Kozicki Phone: (734) 334-1385
Type of Service: LEGISLATION Department: Kathleen Cummins Merry Phone: (734) 334-1820
Type of Service: LITERACY Department: Kay Buckner-Seal Phone: (734) 334-1654
Type of Service: LITERACY Department: Agnes Kubrak Phone: (734) 334-1485
Type of Service: LITERACY Department: Annena McCleskey Phone: (734) 334-1486
Type of Service: MATHEMATICS Department: Libby Niemiec Phone: (734) 334-1375
Type of Service: MATHEMATICS Department: Carolyn Siebers Phone: (734) 334-1581
Type of Service: MEAP (Michigan Educational Assessment Program) Department: Dr. James Gullen Phone: (734) 334-1414
Type of Service: MEDIA RELATIONS Department: Tamara Stevenson Phone: 734-334-1481
Type of Service: MEDIA RELATIONS Department: Michelle Gaynier Phone: (734) 334-1390
Type of Service: MEDIATION Department: Kathy Gibson Phone: (734) 334-1608
Type of Service: MEDICAID REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM Department: Kathleen Merry Phone: (734) 334-1820
Type of Service: MLPP (Michigan Literacy Progress Profile) Department: Annena McClesky Phone: (734) 334-1654
Type of Service: MOIS (Michigan Occupational Information System) Department: Dr. Halyna Bialczyk Phone: (734) 334-1320
Type of Service: MULTI-MEDIA DEVELOPMENT Department: Jon McDuffie Phone: (734) 334-1309
Type of Service: NATIONAL BOARD FOR PROFESSIONAL TEACHING STANDARDS Department: Dr. Suleiman Hamdan Phone: (734) 334-1503
Type of Service: NEW TEACHER DEVELOPMENT & MENTORING Department: Syndee Malek Phone: 734-334-1546
Type of Service: PERSONNEL/LABOR RELATIONS Department: Michael Kozicki Phone: (734) 334-1385
Type of Service: PERSONNEL/LABOR RELATIONS Department: Cheryl Gambrell Phone: (734) 334-1382
Type of Service: PRINT SHOP SERVICES Department: Melinda Frazier Phone: (734) 334-1597
Type of Service: PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT COLLECTION Department: Dolores Veshka Phone: (734) 334-1593
Type of Service: PUBLIC RELATIONS Department: Michelle Gaynier Phone: (734) 334-1390
Type of Service: PUBLIC RELATIONS Department: Tamara Stevenson Phone: 734-334-1481
Type of Service: PUBLIC SCHOOL ACADEMIES (CHARTER SCHOOLS) Department: Dr. Blandina Rose Phone: (734) 334-1564
Type of Service: PUBLIC SCHOOL ACADEMIES (Charter Schools) Department: Dr. Phyllis E. Robinson Phone: 734-334-1583
Type of Service: PUPIL ACCOUNTING AND ATTENDANCE Department: Beverly Rebel Finlayson Phone: (734) 334-1579
Type of Service: PURCHASING Department: Bobbie Allen Phone: (734) 334-1431
Type of Service: QUALITY ASSURANCE FOR SPECIAL EDUCATION Department: Kathey Mathey Phone: 734-334-1489
Type of Service: READING FIRST INITIATIVE Department: Annena McCleskey Phone: (734) 334-1486
Type of Service: REGIONAL EDUCATIONAL MEDIA CENTER (REMC 20) Department: (REMC 20) Phone: (734) 334-1312
Type of Service: REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH (HIV - SID EDUCATION) Department: Andrea Kenyon Unitis Phone: (734) 334-1609
Type of Service: SCHOOL SAFETY ISSUES Department: Kathy Gibson Phone: 734-334-1608
Type of Service: SCHOOLS OF CHOICE Department: Dr. Blandina Rose Phone: (734) 334-1564
Type of Service: SCIENCE Department: Greg Johnson Phone: (734) 334-1427
Type of Service: SCIENCE Department: Dave Bydlowski Phone: (734) 334-1455
Type of Service: SECTION 504 Department: Rae Marr Phone: (734) 334-1317
Type of Service: SOCIAL STUDIES Department: Dr. Karen Williams Phone: (734) 334-1474
Type of Service: SPECIAL EDUCATION Department: David Soebbing Phone: (734) 334-1499
Type of Service: SPECIAL EDUCATION SERVICES Department: Kathryn Mathey Phone: (734) 334-1489
Type of Service: STUDENTS' RIGHTS/RESPONSIBILITIES Department: David Soebbing Phone: (734) 334-1499
Type of Service: SUBSTANCE ABUSE PREVENTION EDUCATION Department: Kathy Gibson Phone: (734) 334-1608
Type of Service: SUBSTITUTE TEACHER TRAINING Department: Dr. Suleiman Hamdan Phone: (734) 334-1503
Type of Service: SURVEY SERVICES Department: Jacquelyn Keys Phone: (734) 334-1401
Type of Service: TELECONFERENCING Department: Bill Heldmyer Phone: (734) 334-1436
Type of Service: TELEVISION Department: Bill Heldmyer Phone: (734) 334-1436
Type of Service: TITLE I Department: Dr. Kathleen Storchan Phone: (734) 334-1604
Type of Service: TITLE I Department: Dr. Frederica Frost Phone: (734) 334-1574
Type of Service: TITLE I Department: Wayne Ruchgy Phone: (734) 334-1362
Type of Service: TITLE VI Department: Wayne Ruchgy Phone: (734) 334-1362
Type of Service: TRANSPORTATION Department: Kim Hooper Phone: (734) 334-1319
Type of Service: VIDEO SERVICES Department: Ken Schramm Phone: (734) 334-1305
Type of Service: VIOLENCE PREVENTION Department: Adrea Kenya Unitis Phone: 734-334-1609
Type of Service: VIOLENCE PREVENTION Department: Kathy Gibson Phone: (734) 334-1608
Type of Service: WEB SITE SERVICES Department: Jan Jarrell Phone: (734) 334-1504 ===========================
When people hear something to the effect of "in our state, we pay $5214 per child each year," the RESA or ESD or whatever system in place has nothing to do with that figure, it is a separate budget. Adding the average costs for ESD adds about $4,000 per student to the figure above, which is almost never mentioned to the public. The above list is not a school, it is not a school district, but is an arm of the Department of Education at the state level, to implement (help) in cost/effective purchasing, training, and implementation of state and federal mandates in regions of the state.
Your tax money at work. . .
And the above was not conceived by Ron Paige, or George Bush. But, it is in place to help implement changes by the No Child Left Behind act, as interpreted by the respective states' education departments. It is also in place to help those that need help, allocating federal and state monies.
So. . . time to trim the State budget. What shall we do? Cut programs that are often mandated (but, cannot cut anything mandated by the state/feds), cut programs that seem unworthy, cut those programs where we don't know what the program is or does?
Or, cut some programs, ask the citizens for more money, and threaten to open up the jails and close the drug treatment clinics, pull services for the elderly, shut down the mental health clinics, so the citizens realize the consequences of failing an initiative or local option?
In Oregon, the answer is quite clear.
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Our school district is facing some pretty sharp cut-backs this year. When talking with the School Board President the other day, we were kicking around where the money would come from, and what could be cut where.
His major money problems stem from an old deseg case that originated 40 years ago, necessitating busing kids all over the parish (county to the rest of you) at several million dollars a year (even though people keep moving, so the bus routes have to keep changing).
The main hole in the money bag is Special Ed, and those programs mandated by the Feds. JFK was responsible for the federal government becoming involved in local education. Every President since has kept pushing the camel in the tent a bit more. Personally, I'd like them to take theirmoney, and leave.
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Originally posted by shantinik:
In Washington State, we have (I am NOT making this up, and when I worked for the State Board of Health, we had to figure out how services were to be provided) 18 children in comas attending public schools. The Bush Administration is requiring (I am being totally serious) the state of Washington to come up with a standardized test for these 18 children to show that they are learning effectively.
I should think the standard tests would be suitable for this.
Better to light one small candle than to curse the %&#$@#! darkness. :t:
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Originally posted by shantinik:
There are crime indexes that use "reported crime" (I have those, too.) Those have usually been thought to be unreliable as 1) reports are duplicated; and 2) when people feel police won't respond, crime goes unreported.
Of course, as I noted myself, the Hoover Institution (or some such) will use the arrest data, because it will conveniently prove the point they wish to make. When I have seen crime statistics cited (whether it was the Hoover Institute or the NRA) the FBI Uniform Crime Reports are usually the source. Your point about the source of the statistics is well taken however.
Better to light one small candle than to curse the %&#$@#! darkness. :t:
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