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#1211156 - 06/03/09 03:44 PM Re: Hailun pianos [Re: Vigelic]
ChrisVenables Offline
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Registered: 03/03/09
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Loc: Hampshire, England
Originally Posted By: Vigelic
W&L and Hailun are sold side by side in the same showroom from the same dealer - however, they've been careful to ensure that models of the same height do not overlap. They carry a 122cm W&L and a 125cm Hailun but do not sell the opposite (ie. they claimed they would not sell a 125cm W&L or a 122cm Hailun as it wouldn't make any sense)


That's because W & L don't have a 125 and Hailun, under the Hailun brand, don't make a 122, well, only for W & L.

The Hailun 125 cm is available in two qualities. The 125 has the more basic design of hitch pin in the bass section and pressure bar in the main and treble sections, whereas the H5 (125 frame) has agraffes.

Currently, I believe the only models which overlap are the 110, 115 upright and 161, 178 grands (depending on availability/distribution rights in the particular country in question).
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#1211352 - 06/03/09 09:05 PM Re: Hailun pianos [Re: Norbert]
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Just a point of correction.

I believe Rich Galassini does sell Hailun pianos.

Check the web site.

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#1211503 - 06/04/09 04:25 AM Re: Hailun pianos [Re: jrcallan]
Vigelic Offline
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Loc: singapore
Also, sorry for resurrecting this thread, but I notice that sweetkeys bought her hailun a long time ago at the start of this thread. Can she or anyone who bought one shed some light as to how their hailun pianos are performing after all this time so far?

I've recently bought one too, it has yet to be delivered but will be delivered tomorrow. It's a HL 125.

Might include pictures here after I get it. (if available)
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#1211754 - 06/04/09 03:59 PM Re: Hailun pianos [Re: dreamtime]
Steve Cohen Offline
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I can tell you with absolute certainty that Larry Fine will have a new bi-annual publication out later this summer. Entitled the Acoustic and Digital Piano Buyer, it will replace his Annual Suppements. I have been working with Larry on this project for the past 6 months.

In it, Hailun and a number of other brands will be rated differently than in previous Fine publications. In the case of Hailun, rest assured the "difference" will be an upgrade.

A formal announcement is planned for end June.
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#1211983 - 06/04/09 11:25 PM Re: Hailun pianos [Re: Steve Cohen]
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Loc: torrance, CA
Originally Posted By: Steve Cohen
I can tell you with absolute certainty that Larry Fine will have a new bi-annual publication out later this summer. Entitled the Acoustic and Digital Piano Buyer, it will replace his Annual Suppements. I have been working with Larry on this project for the past 6 months.

In it, Hailun and a number of other brands will be rated differently than in previous Fine publications. In the case of Hailun, rest assured the "difference" will be an upgrade.

A formal announcement is planned for end June.


Nice gig Steve! Congrats!

You should have treated yourself to your own thread though. Sweetkeys is a tough act to follow! grin
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#1212185 - 06/05/09 11:02 AM Re: Hailun pianos [Re: Steve Cohen]
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Does this icon in your website mean no Chinese pianos?

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#1212223 - 06/05/09 11:59 AM Re: Hailun pianos [Re: Steve Cohen]
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Registered: 01/24/08
Posts: 654
Loc: Hudson, FL
Steve,

Thanks for the heads-up on the new book. I was considering purchasing the 2000 book, but will wait to see the new one. Recently, I bought a Hailun HG 178, so it will be curious to me where Fine rates it. It would not, however, affect my choice (not then, not now). I think that rating good or better pianos is so subjective that it's not possible to compare many of them. (Which is better, a Rolls Royce or a Porche?) What I like in ratings is an analysis of things to look or listsen for: light touch; sustain; ringing in treble; power/presence in bass; bright tone; mellow tone; etc. Then I can better appreciate what each instrument has to offer.

About 18 months ago I played a number of Steinway Grands at your Midlothian Rd. location in Richmond. I really liked them, but after the stock market crash I didn't feel comfortable buying one. Good thing I really like my Hailun!

Hop
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#1212289 - 06/05/09 02:11 PM Re: Hailun pianos [Re: Hop]
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Steve: I will be very interested to read the book; I purchase and read the Supplements every year. I hope that the book is careful to disclose the details of your relationship with the piano industry, as it is important to know something about the authors when they are evaluating different brands in what is bound, at least on some level, to be a subjective process. CY's post, above, underlines my interest. Given your apparent attitude towards Chinese pianos, and other threads in which you have participated in the past as an expert on certain brands, such full disclosure will be all the more important.

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#1212298 - 06/05/09 02:20 PM Re: Hailun pianos [Re: Rank Piano Amateur]
Vigelic Offline
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Registered: 05/30/09
Posts: 14
Loc: singapore
the photos i promised..

the delivery men installing the heater bar...


the tuning man tuning the piano


all done. hmm.


somehow PW forums dont allow my photos to show at its full res of 1024x768.. or maybe its just my monitor.. regardless, i hope this is not a decision i'd regret =\ its all i can afford anyway so what the heck.


Edited by Vigelic (06/05/09 02:25 PM)
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#1212772 - 06/06/09 01:15 PM Re: Hailun pianos [Re: Vigelic]
Vigelic Offline
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Registered: 05/30/09
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Loc: singapore
how do i clean the white & black keys?
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#1212871 - 06/06/09 04:07 PM Re: Hailun pianos [Re: Vigelic]
Jeff Clef Offline
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Registered: 10/05/08
Posts: 4393
Loc: San Jose, CA
Is that a real question? I happen to know; just looked it up on the Kawai website when I needed to clean my keys. Two light squirts of Windex on a barely-damp, soft cotton handkerchief. You might try the damp cloth without the windex, it might be enough. Just enough dampness on the cloth so that it dries immediately and no water drools between the keys.

PS- no Brasso, no harsh solvents or abrasives, especially no furniture polish (like Pledge) or anything else that contains silicone, which damages the action


Edited by Jeff Clef (06/06/09 04:10 PM)
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#1223994 - 06/28/09 01:01 PM Re: Hailun pianos [Re: Jeff Clef]
Vigelic Offline
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Loc: singapore
this is weird. some keys have a 2nd sound when being sustained.

is this normal? for example, the C one octave above the middle C plays that note when I strike it and let go. but if i strike it and hold it (or hold the sustain pedal), after a few seconds i start hearing a weird trembling sound on top of the sound of the note. okay, not really weird trembling but like a ringing kinda sound.. like some other part is vibrating as well along with the string for that note..

should I call the tuner back? was it a bad tuning or what =(
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#1224024 - 06/28/09 01:44 PM Re: Hailun pianos [Re: Vigelic]
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Loc: ♪oron♪o, on♪ario, canada...


Is it this icon? grin
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#1224066 - 06/28/09 02:58 PM Re: Hailun pianos [Re: pno]
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Hailun, Hailun, Hailun.

We must have been out of our mind when we dicovered this brand a while back and immediately became dealers....

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#1224132 - 06/28/09 05:48 PM Re: Hailun pianos [Re: Vigelic]
ChrisVenables Offline
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Registered: 03/03/09
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Loc: Hampshire, England
Originally Posted By: Vigelic
this is weird. some keys have a 2nd sound when being sustained.

is this normal? for example, the C one octave above the middle C plays that note when I strike it and let go. but if i strike it and hold it (or hold the sustain pedal), after a few seconds i start hearing a weird trembling sound on top of the sound of the note. okay, not really weird trembling but like a ringing kinda sound.. like some other part is vibrating as well along with the string for that note..

should I call the tuner back? was it a bad tuning or what =(


I thought Norbert would have been able to incorporate the answer to this in his earlier enthusiastic response..

I have only your description of the unusual sound as 'weird' as information. I think it is probably just the fact that any undamped strings, ie the top two octaves vibrating in sympathy with the note being played, or, when the sustain pedal is employed, all the notes vibrate in sympathy, is the sound you are hearing. Alternatively, if the middle pedal is depressed, then sometimes the celeste felt can create a secondary strike on the strings, resulting in a 'harmonic' overtone.

It's probably nothing to worry about - best just to ask your tuner to check it out. The earlier the better.
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#1227148 - 07/04/09 07:04 PM Re: Hailun pianos [Re: ChrisVenables]
Vigelic Offline
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Registered: 05/30/09
Posts: 14
Loc: singapore
apparently i figured it out.. the front piece of wood (the one with the fallboard attached to it) has a lock at the top left and top right side inside the piano that has a spring release mechanism to lock and unlock..

everytime i hit the middle F or the F one octave above it the top right lock vibrates along with the note.. i unlocked and relocked it and it seems to have solved the prob.. =\

thanks for the replies... hope it doesn't happen again =\
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