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#833565 - 11/26/04 02:50 PM Ok - I volunteer to be a trash hauler in the PF - second wind..
Larry Offline
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In case you missed it, Nipon Gaki and roflcopter have posted some *very* objectionable filth on the PF. Frank doesn't have time to keep up with this kind of stuff, and he's got enough on his hands already. Someone who is willing to be tolerant enough to not strangle the forums by "over moderating" but able to sniff out trouble early to put a stop to it needs to help.

I volunteer.

I'm good at spotting these creeps, good at smoking them out of their holes, and I don't have any problem cutting their lifelines.

Just a suggestion. But Frank is going to have a cow when he sees it, I don't blame him, and he's liable to get so mad he does something rash. Can't blame him there either, but I think there's a better way.
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#833566 - 11/26/04 02:52 PM Re: Ok - I volunteer to be a trash hauler in the PF - second wind..
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You would make a good moderator Larry.
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#833567 - 11/26/04 02:53 PM Re: Ok - I volunteer to be a trash hauler in the PF - second wind..
Larry Offline
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Make that *two* threads now.
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#833568 - 11/26/04 02:58 PM Re: Ok - I volunteer to be a trash hauler in the PF - second wind..
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Where are these trolls coming from? Usenet?
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#833569 - 11/26/04 03:01 PM Re: Ok - I volunteer to be a trash hauler in the PF - second wind..
Freedom Offline
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They are soooo getting it once frank gets here.
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#833570 - 11/26/04 03:01 PM Re: Ok - I volunteer to be a trash hauler in the PF - second wind..
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I don't know. But they need to get lost.

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#833571 - 11/26/04 03:02 PM Re: Ok - I volunteer to be a trash hauler in the PF - second wind..
Freedom Offline
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*double post* \:\( Sorry
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#833572 - 11/26/04 03:05 PM Re: Ok - I volunteer to be a trash hauler in the PF - second wind..
Larry Offline
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Frank seems to have taken care of it. But it still seems it would be good if at least one more person could do this so Frank wouldn't be bothered with it all the time.
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#833573 - 11/26/04 03:07 PM Re: Ok - I volunteer to be a trash hauler in the PF - second wind..
Freedom Offline
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I think you are the guy to do it Larry. \:\)
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#833574 - 11/26/04 03:08 PM Re: Ok - I volunteer to be a trash hauler in the PF - second wind..
Larry Offline
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I'm not pushing for the job, I'm just offering my help.
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#833575 - 11/26/04 03:11 PM Re: Ok - I volunteer to be a trash hauler in the PF - second wind..
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I would give my support ( FWIW ) to Larry being a moderator in the Piano Forum.
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#833576 - 11/26/04 03:11 PM Re: Ok - I volunteer to be a trash hauler in the PF - second wind..
Renauda Offline
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Trolling is one behaviour, but deliberate and malicious stalking is quite another. This, unfortunately, is the latter. It is unacceptable under any circumstance. Use whatever means deemed expedient to stop it.

I think Larry would be a very fair and practical moderator. I too vote YES[/b]
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#833577 - 11/26/04 03:15 PM Re: Ok - I volunteer to be a trash hauler in the PF - second wind..
Christopher James Quinn Offline
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It's gotten real bad and that's why I made the moderator bit a part of my recommendation in another thread. The PF has turned into usenet with UBB code.

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#833578 - 11/26/04 03:25 PM Re: Ok - I volunteer to be a trash hauler in the PF - second wind..
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Yeah, I agree. It's gotten to the point where someone needs to step in, otherwise we run the risk of the place being shut down for good.
Larry gets my vote as well.
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#833579 - 11/26/04 03:27 PM Re: Ok - I volunteer to be a trash hauler in the PF - second wind..
Larry Offline
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I just don't want to see it where you have to get permission to post. That will kill it, in my opinion. My idea is just to have someone who is here frequently who can watch for this stuff and then remove it without bothering Frank, not act as lord and master over every post that goes up. I'm not talking about a case where all the posts have to come to a moderator first and then go up only after it has been screened, just someone else in addition to Frank who has the ability to delete filth and block those who are guilty of it. Maybe the answer is to give that capability to several different people.
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#833580 - 11/26/04 03:34 PM Re: Ok - I volunteer to be a trash hauler in the PF - second wind..
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Seems like a good idea - maybe a couple of people in case some have a problem with the choice of one.
I too vote yes for Larry.
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#833581 - 11/26/04 03:47 PM Re: Ok - I volunteer to be a trash hauler in the PF - second wind..
Christopher James Quinn Offline
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I'd vote for Larry too. As long as there is a fair appeals process \:D

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#833582 - 11/26/04 03:53 PM Re: Ok - I volunteer to be a trash hauler in the PF - second wind..
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Larry moderating might be enough to get me back in the PF....
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#833583 - 11/26/04 03:58 PM Re: Ok - I volunteer to be a trash hauler in the PF - second wind..
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ok - I volunteer to be the moderator of the Organ forum
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#833584 - 11/26/04 04:04 PM Re: Ok - I volunteer to be a trash hauler in the PF - second wind..
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Larry:
I'm not pushing for the job, I'm just offering my help. [/b]
LIES.[/b]

Pianoworld is MINE[/b] (at least the Pianist Corner). :p
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#833585 - 11/26/04 04:10 PM Re: Ok - I volunteer to be a trash hauler in the PF - second wind..
Larry Offline
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\:D
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#833586 - 11/26/04 04:34 PM Re: Ok - I volunteer to be a trash hauler in the PF - second wind..
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Yes I think a few individuals would is also a good idea. If I understand everyone correctly, the idea is delete and block posts that contain excessively foul language, sexual & sensationally violent imagery. It is not however to censure political, religious or social morality views. If so, the best method is to reach a consensus and establish clear guidelines by which a "Forum Concierge" can decide and act.
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#833587 - 11/26/04 04:46 PM Re: Ok - I volunteer to be a trash hauler in the PF - second wind..
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Do we need a radical as a moderator?

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#833588 - 11/26/04 04:50 PM Re: Ok - I volunteer to be a trash hauler in the PF - second wind..
Renauda Offline
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If the radical can use good judgement why not? Better a radical than a reactionary.
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#833589 - 11/26/04 04:52 PM Re: Ok - I volunteer to be a trash hauler in the PF - second wind..
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Radicals consistently use bad judgment.

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#833590 - 11/26/04 04:59 PM Re: Ok - I volunteer to be a trash hauler in the PF - second wind..
Renauda Offline
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Whatever, that's not the purpose of this thread. What do you suggest? After all, you do have an oppoortunity to contribute constructively to this question too.
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#833591 - 11/26/04 05:10 PM Re: Ok - I volunteer to be a trash hauler in the PF - second wind..
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Most obnoxious posts are written by trolls and sockpuppets. If they'd get banned, a lot of troubles could be avoided.
IMO a temporary banning (e.g. for 1 month) would be the best solution: Not think about it for too long; just let Larry do it.

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#833592 - 11/26/04 05:10 PM Re: Ok - I volunteer to be a trash hauler in the PF - second wind..
yhabpo Offline
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I propose that no changes be made. If troll posts are ignored and not quoted, the damage is minimal.

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#833593 - 11/26/04 05:21 PM Re: Ok - I volunteer to be a trash hauler in the PF - second wind..
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When it comes to showing a lack of respect for others, Larry is one of the worst offenders here. I vote no to Larry being a moderator. (For heavens sake the word "moderator" contains the root "moderate" and Larry is anything but and you all know it.)
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#833594 - 11/26/04 05:22 PM Re: Ok - I volunteer to be a trash hauler in the PF - second wind..
Larry Offline
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I'm not a radical, Yahoo. You just don't like me.

You are correct Renauda, my idea is not to censor what people talke about, or restrict *how* they talk about it. I like things just like they are - except when someone is obviously stalking another, purposely posting hate posts designed to harm, or when they post filth, either written or visual. Even then, I'm talking about obvious filth, not walking the edge sort of stuff some of us have done. No one would even notice except for the kind of stuff that happened today.

We're all rational, decent human beings, and we are aware of the kinds of things I'm talking about. All I'm suggesting is that Frank have an extra few pairs of hands so that stuff like this gets taken down quicker.
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