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#83621 - 07/14/07 09:27 PM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Piano
YYGoh Offline
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Registered: 07/14/07
Posts: 3
Hi, Sorry for interrupt. Happen to find this topic talking alot about Singapore piano. I think may be some members here can give me an advise of buying a piano.

I am thinking to buy a Yamaha U3. I just wonder am I able to get it below S$4000 for a used piano. How old the piano can I get from the shop? Quite confuse on this because for the price around S$4000-S$4300. I can get a U3 of serial no. above 2100000. I wonder is it fair to get this age of piano at this price which is imported directly from Japan and no recon.

Thanks in advance. I am keen to get one in this few weeks and stop searching anymore. It is a headache for me to choose within my budget for this piano.

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#83622 - 07/15/07 12:08 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Piano
mendo Offline
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Registered: 08/28/06
Posts: 65
Loc: Singapore
 Quote:
Originally posted by YYGoh:
Hi, Sorry for interrupt. Happen to find this topic talking alot about Singapore piano. I think may be some members here can give me an advise of buying a piano.

I am thinking to buy a Yamaha U3. I just wonder am I able to get it below S$4000 for a used piano. How old the piano can I get from the shop? Quite confuse on this because for the price around S$4000-S$4300. I can get a U3 of serial no. above 2100000. I wonder is it fair to get this age of piano at this price which is imported directly from Japan and no recon.

Thanks in advance. I am keen to get one in this few weeks and stop searching anymore. It is a headache for me to choose within my budget for this piano. [/b]
i would say this price for u3 is quite high. S/N at 2M is something 30yrs or more. no recon doens't mean the parts like the strings have been replaced. unless the condition is near pristine and good, you'd be better of getting something closer to 5M. i've seen one around 4M at 5k. if you are still keen on the one you'd seen, be prepared to write off your 4k in 5-10 years time.

normally the dealer would give some discount from the 1st quoted price. 5-15% would be a gauge depending on the unit you are looking at.
you may get more if you are paying all by cash.

More importantly you must get one that has the better conditions and sounds. buying from a reputable outlet would be the first step. buy back guarantee doesn't mean a thing. If what you get is a real deal, then in 5 years time, the piano still won't need any repair, unless you need to trade in if you don't like it after a few weeks.

hope this helps...

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#83623 - 07/15/07 01:15 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Piano
YYGoh Offline
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Registered: 07/14/07
Posts: 3
Thanks Mendo,

I don't know whether the shop is reputable but there are some members did mention about them. Then, how about if the U1 serial no nearly 2800000 and qouted me around S$3200.

For the piano I am considering I will definitely won't think about resale it. I am just worried whether it will last me long.

Thanks a lot

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#83624 - 07/15/07 03:33 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Piano
jarjar Offline
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Registered: 07/21/06
Posts: 112
Loc: Malaysia
My 1st piano was tuned by a tech that tune by solely his ears. No equipment at all and he could tell me that my old old piano still not to concert pitch yet and will quite a number of tunning to get there. He did the job in about 1 hour. That time my piano was put in my father's motorcycle shop, imagine those noices. Really a good tech but i lost contact with him so can't really find him now.
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#83625 - 07/15/07 08:00 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Piano
mendo Offline
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Loc: Singapore
 Quote:
Originally posted by YYGoh:
Thanks Mendo,

I don't know whether the shop is reputable but there are some members did mention about them. Then, how about if the U1 serial no nearly 2800000 and qouted me around S$3200.

For the piano I am considering I will definitely won't think about resale it. I am just worried whether it will last me long.

Thanks a lot [/b]
2.8m is still something close to 30yrs. have you check properly the piano yourself? at this price no point getting a pianoetch to check. even if you get one, the person may also most likely know the dealer.

for what i've seen and read in this forum, the piano from the era you mentioned, are slightly on the better side.

a few simple clues to help you (you may find many more in this forum):

1. hit the last left note firmly. is the sound firm and deep and still have sweet resonance? if not, forget it.

2. run all the keys including the black ones (take your time) in 3 modes, soft, medium and hard. are all the notes have the same tone, color and loudness? if not, forget it.

3. are any keys sticky? like the key takes some time to lift up after pressing? old yamahas are known to have this problem. if yes, forget it.

4. open up the piano and check the hammers for thickness and evenness, strings, frame and tuning pins for rust, the board for any small cracks...


i'm not sure what level you are at now. the price you pay also depends what you wanna out from your toy. you may need to change in a few years time, if needed.

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#83626 - 07/15/07 08:38 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Piano
snoopycar Offline
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Registered: 10/17/06
Posts: 976
Loc: Singapore
 Quote:
Originally posted by jarjar:
My 1st piano was tuned by a tech that tune by solely his ears. No equipment at all and he could tell me that my old old piano still not to concert pitch yet and will quite a number of tunning to get there. He did the job in about 1 hour. That time my piano was put in my father's motorcycle shop, imagine those noices. Really a good tech but i lost contact with him so can't really find him now. [/b]
That's a true master tuner!!
jarjar, your dad's motorcycle shop is the first to have a piano in workshop!! thumbs up. Hope the mechanic didn't greased the keys... hehehe

When i schedule is less hectic, i'll re-learn my tuning from machine to aural, I'm inspired to be next generation aural tuner in 5years time
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#83627 - 07/15/07 11:35 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Piano
YYGoh Offline
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Registered: 07/14/07
Posts: 3
Thanks a lot, Mendo. Your tips will help me a lot definitely.

At least now I know may be I am still able to find a piano within my budget.

It is really great to have this thread. I can learn a lot from here and getting some advise.

many thanks and wish all the best to you.

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#83628 - 07/15/07 01:57 PM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Piano
singapore qualified technician Offline
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Registered: 07/08/07
Posts: 37
Loc: singapore
I don't know whether the shop is reputable but there are some members did mention about them. Then, how about if the U1 serial no nearly 2800000 and qouted me around S$3200.

For the piano I am considering I will definitely won't think about resale it. I am just worried whether it will last me long.
by yy goh.

reply to u :U3A or U30 is the piano you should consider (they are 20years and below,you have to pay more ,maybe you can ask the dealer for a end user and buyer kind of deal(no gaurantee,tuning,and etc,etc which they provide)he might consider to lower price,give and take,
and i will be glad for you rather then you buy a U3h which in my opinion is on a little old side,
forget about U3M they only in production for 2 years (younger then U3h older then U3A)

please test the lower bass and confrim is the tone still singing stronly or not?(sorry sound hard to describe by words)
i have seen yamaha with serial nos only 5 digits or 6 digit which is way to old to consider,2 pedals,with the word y,,,,, on the right size facing you,some unprofessional dealer i guess dump these piano in our shore(my colleage just tune one in ubi ave recently.so sad to see these pianos in sg,wondering who are the people who imported these junk.

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#83629 - 07/15/07 02:19 PM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Piano
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Loc: singapore
When i schedule is less hectic, i'll re-learn my tuning from machine to aural, I'm inspired to be next generation aural tuner in 5years time
post by snoopycar.

by aural 1st of all -temprement or some tech called scaling must be taught,and sorry to say this have to be taught tough to learn youself as u wont know you are right or wrong,major 3th fast or too slow,

what i was told is that if you cant tune a piano by ear to a certain high level of expectation then its better to tune it by scope(of course not a cheap guitar tuner,i meant a full range piano tuning scope )

u have a real good sense of humour,tis place came alive because of you.techie"

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#83630 - 07/15/07 02:34 PM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Piano
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Loc: singapore
post by mendo originally
no point getting a pianoetch to check. even if you get one, the person may also most likely know the dealer.

many of the technician(not all )in singapore.will hold their own opinion wheather they know the dealer or not,you just have you get the ethical ones,ask them sincerely that u pay them a apprisal fee,will they do it.also ask the dealer ,would they mind a technician to inspect,narrowdown the one who weclomes u.

btw FYI there use to be a 2nd trader in sg, operating from home,(for many years in old airpot road ,thomson rise,n maybe bukit timah area)he will cut you off once you intend to bring a technician,just buy and sell,many buyers was sold by him.

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#83631 - 07/15/07 02:59 PM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Piano
singapore qualified technician Offline
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Registered: 07/08/07
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Loc: singapore
original by deloris
How should we know whether the tuning pin of the used piano is good or not? We cant ask the tuner to check b4 we buy, rite

buying a tuning wrench is not viable,and you still need a tech to turn it,although tis the best method.
i suggest you buy a tuning fork A 440c/s few dollars.test the A nos 49 keys and compare it with the tuning fork(if they sounds at the same frequency most likely its safe and also play the cromatic scale are they sounding right.
tips for you :to test the dealers professionlism.
many traders dont prepare a concert pitch standard piano ,
each of you play the same note on different piano at the same time .eg A49 together,you can hear do they sound the same .same frequency should sound the same if not forget it.
buying a new or used its same thing ,you need to tune to standard pitch of A440c/s the shop should do this if they really care for your child,affect her hearing if play too long on a wrong pitch piano,hearing test will be bad,

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#83632 - 07/15/07 11:32 PM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Piano
snoopycar Offline
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Registered: 10/17/06
Posts: 976
Loc: Singapore
Ya lor... SQtech, how come you post so early in the morning? Due to strong coffee? Cheers, i think we are on the same track, to service and tune pianos in SG with honesty and pride...
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#83633 - 07/16/07 02:31 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Piano
snoopycar Offline
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Registered: 10/17/06
Posts: 976
Loc: Singapore
 Quote:
Originally posted by singapore qualified technician:
post by mendo originally
no point getting a pianoetch to check. even if you get one, the person may also most likely know the dealer.

many of the technician(not all )in singapore.will hold their own opinion wheather they know the dealer or not,you just have you get the ethical ones,ask them sincerely that u pay them a apprisal fee,will they do it.also ask the dealer ,would they mind a technician to inspect,narrowdown the one who weclomes u.

btw FYI there use to be a 2nd trader in sg, operating from home,(for many years in old airpot road ,thomson rise,n maybe bukit timah area)he will cut you off once you intend to bring a technician,just buy and sell,many buyers was sold by him. [/b]
Yah lor, why like that. For buyers who'd like to bring a piano tech along, just pretend he's your friend or brother lor. The seller should not be intimidated and be open about the sales. Who knows, it may be to his benefit. If the tech see a good piano, he will recommend others to the seller too.

Even if the piano is not tip top, but it may still sound great (minus the cosmetic) Ever play a looks great but sounds bad piano? But it piano is not good, worn out with "beef floss", sound bad, it should not be on sale in the first place.

I feel shop or private sale should welcome 2nd opinion from tech. They could disagree or agree and end result is to understand the needs of the customer more as a result. (a chance for the tech to sell service too, touch regulation, voicing..)
If the tech reflect that piano isn't worth the $$, at least the seller knows that he might have over priced a bit.

But tech must be non bias of course lah, cannot under table ok? How about asking the tech to wear a mask or put on a moustach so that the deal can't recognize him? How about blind fold the tech so that he doesn't know which dealer you are bring him to? When you reach there, put a black cloth tent over the piano for him to inspect under it, the dealer must remain outside and their identity withheld?

I think you all must be laughing by now.. hehehe
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#83634 - 07/16/07 09:43 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Piano
mendo Offline
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Registered: 08/28/06
Posts: 65
Loc: Singapore
anyone here hire alvin who sells sauters to tune kawais or yamahas? how's the outcome?

talked once to him over the phone and found he really know his stuff. can describe the actual state of my old piano just be conversing....

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#83635 - 07/16/07 10:31 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Piano
funfuntrip Offline
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Registered: 07/11/07
Posts: 8
Loc: Singapore
Visited some shops and found these.....

1. Ellington Deluxe model (new at $4600), German parts, made in Korea.

2. Karl Schonberg KU121 (new at $5800) and KU131 (new at $6500) both made in Korea, and uncle said Karl Schonberg is a German Company bought over by the Korean.

3. Yamaha U2 (used about 35yo at $3200), felt and hammers replaced, board and strings (uncle said these are crucial parts) original.

4. Yamaha U10H (new at $6k+), made in Indonesia, not of spruce wood.

I would most appreciate it to hear your views on the above made and prices. Will be visiting some more shops to see see touch touch other make. Yet to see the Kawai K3.

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#83636 - 07/16/07 01:52 PM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Piano
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Registered: 07/08/07
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Loc: singapore
1. Ellington Deluxe model (new at $4600), German parts, made in Korea.
ans:i thought its made in china

3. Yamaha U2 (used about 35yo at $3200), felt and hammers replaced, board and strings (uncle said these are crucial parts) original.
ans : try consider U1 or U3 and younger ones please,as U2 have been dicountinue production many years ago.age a little concern
4. Yamaha U10H (new at $6k+), made in Indonesia, not of spruce wood.
ans: should be U10J soundboard is laminated spruce thats why cheaper than a solid spruce one.

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#83637 - 07/16/07 09:00 PM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Piano
rzz Offline
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Registered: 07/06/07
Posts: 9
Loc: singapore
Hi,
I have to aplogise for interupting. I need some advise. I have actually enrolled my daughter (6 yrs old) for Yamaha junior course and she's been there close to 2 yrs now. The problem is she's way behind her peers in sight reading.
She's basically memorising the songs by heart. Is that the correct way?

Morever, she refused to come out to play the piano when it's her turn and shred tears every lessons. She's ok at home though, practising the songs.

I am at a loss what to do since it's abt 2 mths more to her exams.

I dont have a piano at home, basically she practises using the keybroad and we are hesitating in buying a piano as it can be a huge investment and it can go to a waste if she doesnt want to continue.

Does anyone faces similiar problems when it comes to kids?

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#83638 - 07/16/07 09:51 PM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Piano
snoopycar Offline
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Registered: 10/17/06
Posts: 976
Loc: Singapore
I empathize with you. Every child has different ablilties and timings. Keyboard is OK. The love for music cannot be obstructed. Don't have to focus too much on exams. Hastening results could be futile at this stage.

As for real account. Last sunday i tuned a petrof. The pianist is an 8year girl. I notice a stack of 12" high music books on top of piano. After i tuned, ashlyn plays many songs from memory, little bach here, little jazz there, some counterpoints. I'm amazed, seems she likes piano music well. Her younger brother haven't take up lesson yet, but anyhow press the keys but sound like fusion jazz already... hahaha
She even pose for me to take a pic! As i was waiting for the lift, her playing fills the neighbour corridors.. thumbs up.

Interestingly, when i enquire her mom, she is only in grade 1 and taking exams soon. But, like you, her child took the 2 year yamaha course(i need to attend these course). So, this really strikes me. The yamaha children development course is doing it's part in developing budding pianist is well establish working model. And the thing is they bought this 131petrof only a year earlierm meaning she uses a keyboard too at the learning stage.

Do worry, not to pressure her if she isn't ready for mini recital or exams. Give her a hug and tells her it's ok, tell mommy or daddy when you are ready. Giving her phobia is the last thing you'd wanna do. Slowly expose her abilities. Encourage her to "preform" to family members, applaud everytime as a reward.

Be patience. The aim of music is a life long learning journey, instill into the heart of those chosen to be musician. I constantly hear piano owner saying, my children is grade 8, but now as grown ups in 30s, has given up or stop playing completely.... sad.

cheer up
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#83639 - 07/16/07 10:13 PM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Piano
singapore qualified technician Offline
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original by rzz
The problem is she's way behind her peers in sight reading.
She's basically memorising the songs by heart. Is that the correct way?

thers not right or wrong on the above,agree with snoopycar/after 2 years she have aquire good sense of hearing and most likely aleady have music appreciation in her .
she will enjoy piano more then many childs whom simply start piano the traditinal way,
music is to enjoy,dont stress her n yourself,(i knew of many grade 8 player,without a score they can play(do you want your child to be like this?

since she have aquired sense of hearing,its important that the piano you invest in future must be tune to A440 c.p.s (international standard pitch)

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#83640 - 07/17/07 12:19 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Piano
snoopycar Offline
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Registered: 10/17/06
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Loc: Singapore
Talking about piano playing, i have some more interesting observations.

It about problem solving skills development.
How do you breaks up a difficult task into sections. After overcoming the individual section, how do you connects it up. How do you transform the mechanical playing to and enjoyable musical moment?

It's also about finding the right teacher to strengthen the weak areas you have. Another encouraging story i heard is this play can't sight read well, but can memorize, doesn't take exams, no grade. So end up he could play at road shows demos. In real life, he's a lawyer.
What about the aeronautic engineer story ......

Perhaps its time to get an Acoustic Piano Like U1 and you're halfway there already.

Come to think of it U1 sounds like YOU-WANT. Yes you-want, buy me now......

Then U2 sounds like YOU-TOO, yes you want to buy 1 too.

U3 sounds like Are YOU-FREE.. no i'm busy tonight.

Don't buy U5 coz it sounds like U're Fired... hahaha

cheers
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#83641 - 07/17/07 01:40 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Piano
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"Yah lor, why like that. For buyers who'd like to bring a piano tech along, just pretend he's your friend or brother lor. The seller should not be intimidated and be open about the sales. Who knows, it may be to his benefit. If the tech see a good piano, he will recommend others to the seller too."
haha...sorry I can't help it! Singlish lol. I'm singaporean too...

I took the yamaha course when I was a little kid too for about 5 years, although they never corrected my flat fingers, I know it did my alot of good. I really taught me to love music and made a difference to my life as compared to many other kids
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#83642 - 07/17/07 05:16 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Piano
tses0107 Offline
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Registered: 06/20/07
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Loc: Singapore
Hi Fun Fun Trip,

Sorry, late reply. Me not online for some days.

Kawai K3 dimension:
Height 48" (122 cm)
Width 60" (150 cm)
Depth 24" (59 cm)
Weight 483 lbs. (219 kg)

I also can't really play the music with out the song sheet.
I have stopped playing for more than 10 yrs. Now start again.
All the fingers are hard already..
Usually i just try the scales, I feel scales is good, you can feel all the tune.

I also cant afford to pay the whole sum in 1 go. I do the installement by the credit card.
You may check with the store.

Hope you can find the good piano that suits you..

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#83643 - 07/17/07 12:24 PM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Piano
WCH Offline
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Registered: 04/12/07
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Loc: SINGAPORE
Hi rzz,

You should not be worrying too much about her sight-reading skill at this time. I am sure she will improve with more practice.

What you should focus now is on learning the correct fingering. Make sure she don't learn the bad habit of playing with flat fingers. No good. It will be difficult for her to unlearn the mistakes in her later years.

Don't be stingy about getting a good acoustic piano. Think of long-term benefit.
Go for a piano with a good tone and medium touch (not too hard or soft).

... and most importantly, get a private piano teacher, who is qualified (LRSM) and good in human management skill.

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#83644 - 07/17/07 07:12 PM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Piano
snoopycar Offline
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Amelialw:
"Yah lor, why like that. For buyers who'd like to bring a piano tech along, just pretend he's your friend or brother lor. The seller should not be intimidated and be open about the sales. Who knows, it may be to his benefit. If the tech see a good piano, he will recommend others to the seller too."
haha...sorry I can't help it! Singlish lol. I'm singaporean too...

I took the yamaha course when I was a little kid too for about 5 years, although they never corrected my flat fingers, I know it did my alot of good. I really taught me to love music and made a difference to my life as compared to many other kids [/b]
Wow, i like the Bach Partita.....
http://www.audiolunchbox.com/album?a=24073
What should the tempo of Capriccio?
BACH: Partita No. 2 in C minor, BWV 826 - Capriccio
I have one mp3 in my handphone thats so fast, the one play in the link seems 3 time slower...

hehehe, yes the singlish makes this thread unique, less former tone, more fun. I heard from my friends angmors here speaks with lahs and lors too nowadays. Join in, don't paisay lah...

Anyway, i wish i was enroll into the yamahahaha junior course when i was young. No chance to be a teacher at my age now. But somehow i mananage to learn some intermediate song and loving the piano everyday, epecially weekends when it's ok to play anytime in the day hours without volume restraints.

Hmmm Canada, long way from home huh? The usual question, do you miss chay kuey teow, roasted chicken rice, haimanese oily chicken rice, rojak, durian, ice kachang, ice cheng teng, wanton mee... char siew rice, ban mien, ngo hiang bee hoon... ok i'll stop here to prevent you from drooling further.. or do you have a hawker center there selling all these already?
Tiong bahru hawker have rebuilt you know??

Ah ha... canada had a famous Bach specialist call GG, i wished 2% og me can play like him.

Good advise, hope rzz will take it easy and be encouraged.
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#83645 - 07/17/07 09:01 PM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Piano
rzz Offline
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Registered: 07/06/07
Posts: 9
Loc: singapore
Hi there,
I'm glad I found this forum. Really appreciate all your comments and advise.
Been ignorant,I would never have thought about LRSM when hiring a private tutor.

I dont have any music background, it may sound stupid, what do you mean by flat fingers? and in any event shd I invest in a acoustic or a digital piano? My hubby is more hands up for the digital as he feels that there wont be any tuning required and the sound effect is the same. Maintenance, will be much easier.

When will be a gd time to start her off on a 1-1 basis? She will be completing her 2 year course in Sep.

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#83646 - 07/18/07 12:14 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Piano
Digitus Offline
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Registered: 11/08/06
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Loc: Singapore
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Originally posted by rzz:
Hi there,
I'm glad I found this forum. Really appreciate all your comments and advise.
Been ignorant,I would never have thought about LRSM when hiring a private tutor.

I dont have any music background, it may sound stupid, what do you mean by flat fingers? and in any event shd I invest in a acoustic or a digital piano? My hubby is more hands up for the digital as he feels that there wont be any tuning required and the sound effect is the same. Maintenance, will be much easier.

When will be a gd time to start her off on a 1-1 basis? She will be completing her 2 year course in Sep. [/b]
Hi rzz, welcome to the forum, and to our Uniquely Singaporean (TM) thread.

An acoustic piano and digital piano are most definitely NOT the same. I have both and I can assure you that for piano music, a decent acoustic instrument beats a digital piano hands down.

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#83647 - 07/18/07 02:09 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Piano
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Loc: Singapore
can i add...... but the acoustic piano gotta be of decent brand, tone and touch in the first place, then only it can beat the digital hands down(spanking + yee haa).. hehehe
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#83648 - 07/18/07 03:05 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Piano
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Registered: 07/11/07
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http://www.pianoworld.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/1/17651.html

Quote clam "...They had this anniversary offer when I bought the K8 so I paid $11K+ for the K8...."

>>>> Hi clam, what makes you finally decide on the K8?

>>>> Hi SQtech, understand that K50 is being replaced by the K5. Does that mean it is better to buy the K5 instead of the K50 as the latter would be discontinued in production just like the U2?

This afternoon went to see the K3, K5 and K50 at Centrepoint. Got the salesperson to play on the K3 and K50. Lovely!

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#83649 - 07/18/07 03:55 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Piano
Digitus Offline
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Registered: 11/08/06
Posts: 866
Loc: Singapore
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Originally posted by snoopycar:
can i add...... but the acoustic piano gotta be of decent brand, tone and touch in the first place, then only it can beat the digital hands down(spanking + yee haa).. hehehe [/b]
One thing that a digital piano can NEVER do is provide you with the tone intermodulation that an acoustic piano can. It also cannot imitate the effect of the damper (sustain) pedal. That's why I bought an acoustic piano last November, after years of feeling dissastisfied with a digital keyboard.

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#83650 - 07/19/07 01:22 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Piano
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Registered: 05/18/07
Posts: 1166
Loc: Singapore
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Wow, i like the Bach Partita.....
http://www.audiolunchbox.com/album?a=24073
What should the tempo of Capriccio?
BACH: Partita No. 2 in C minor, BWV 826 - Capriccio
I have one mp3 in my handphone thats so fast, the one play in the link seems 3 time slower...

hehehe, yes the singlish makes this thread unique, less former tone, more fun. I heard from my friends angmors here speaks with lahs and lors too nowadays. Join in, don't paisay lah...

Anyway, i wish i was enroll into the yamahahaha junior course when i was young. No chance to be a teacher at my age now. But somehow i mananage to learn some intermediate song and loving the piano everyday, epecially weekends when it's ok to play anytime in the day hours without volume restraints.

Hmmm Canada, long way from home huh? The usual question, do you miss chay kuey teow, roasted chicken rice, haimanese oily chicken rice, rojak, durian, ice kachang, ice cheng teng, wanton mee... char siew rice, ban mien, ngo hiang bee hoon... ok i'll stop here to prevent you from drooling further.. or do you have a hawker center there selling all these already?
Tiong bahru hawker have rebuilt you know??

Ah ha... canada had a famous Bach specialist call GG, i wished 2% og me can play like him.

Good advise, hope rzz will take it easy and be encouraged.
Haha....thanks lah! Would like to help you with the Bach Partita in C minor (Capriccio) but i've only learnt the Sinfonia besides I have enough to learn now!

Yup, to be exact Canada is 18 hours away from Singapore by plane...so far arh. I miss singapore alot lor, here you can't get food as good for 2 or 3 dollars if you get the same you'll probably pay about $12 singapore dollars which is crazy...
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