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#1163502 - 03/16/09 09:30 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Pian [Re: fogandflower]
Bihua Offline
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Hi fogandflower,

I wouldn't choose (C) coz it has rusted pins although it is 7 to 8 years younger.

Are they both just imported from Japan one, or had been in Singapore for a while? Is it indicated that the first owner (at the warranty card) as Singapore?

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#1163536 - 03/16/09 10:57 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Pian [Re: Bihua]
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hi bihua, i think the pianos have been in Singapore for a while. The first owner are Japanese. The record is the tuning record.

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#1163873 - 03/16/09 11:12 PM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Pian [Re: fogandflower]
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(B) is better. But remember, any piano cannot last very long in Singapore normal household condition, at around 20 years with just heating rod, piano cover and occassional aircon because of our weather here. So try to choose the one that had been least exposed to Singapore's humidity in terms of number of years.

Bottom line is, choose the one you like, and if you've bargained for the price you want, go for it.

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#1163925 - 03/17/09 04:34 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Pian [Re: Bihua]
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hi buhua, do you mean the piano should with lesser years in singapore will be better?

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#1163931 - 03/17/09 05:14 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Pian [Re: Bihua]
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Originally Posted By: Bihua
But remember, any piano cannot last very long in Singapore normal household condition, at around 20 years with just heating rod, piano cover and occassional aircon because of our weather here. So try to choose the one that had been least exposed to Singapore's humidity in terms of number of years.


May I know your reasons for saying so? And why the 20-year life-span? Why not 10 years or 30 years?

I know that with a heater, full piano cover and no aircon, the RH inside an upright can be kept around 60% or even slightly lower in most locations in Singapore (except places that face secondary forests, e.g. Bukit Timah). 60% is within the range recommended for pianos by even European manufacturers. May I know why you would not consider this acceptable for long-term?


Edited by Roxane (03/17/09 05:15 AM)

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#1164356 - 03/17/09 09:48 PM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Pian [Re: Roxane]
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20 years is just an estimate. Below is the link which I asked about humidity months back when I was deciding to buy my piano, and wat i was advised...so I am just sharing it here...

http://www.pianoworld.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/201534/Searchpage/1/Main/15063/Words/new+Hailun/Search/true/Re:%20New%20Hailun%20125%20vs%2026%20yo%20Ya.html#Post201534

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#1164473 - 03/18/09 04:23 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Pian [Re: Bihua]
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after 2weeks? or 3 weeks searching, i finally place the order on yamaha U3H. It will be delivered soon.

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#1164476 - 03/18/09 04:44 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Pian [Re: fogandflower]
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Originally Posted By: fogandflower
after 2weeks? or 3 weeks searching, i finally place the order on yamaha U3H. It will be delivered soon.


Congratulations! The U3 is a nice piano. Did you buy used or new in the end? Kay-poh minds want to know... grin


Edited by Roxane (03/18/09 04:45 AM)

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#1164586 - 03/18/09 11:42 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Pian [Re: Roxane]
Bihua Offline
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Congratulations! 2 to 3 weeks of searching not considered long lah. smile I also KAY-POH....which one you bought in the end?

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#1164890 - 03/18/09 08:33 PM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Pian [Re: Bihua]
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hi roxane, I bought a used one in the end.

Bihua, i bought the (B).

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#1165048 - 03/19/09 12:47 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Pian [Re: chihuahua]
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Originally Posted By: chihuahua
Hi everybody,

Been busy practicing for lessons/exams bleh bleh bleh, got so many new songs to learn leh ... hiyah ... back to the topic lor, although I do not "love" the dealer (hint wink wink), I got to say the ABS action is far more responsive than say it's major competitor's piano action. IMHO, this is my opinion. Try it, then tell me if that's so. wink


Hello Senior!

I'm just a junior m'ber but would like to share my experience. I own a 3-mth old Kawai K8 (with ABS carbon action) and my sister owns a Yamaha U5 (no longer in sale but should be equivalent to YUS5). I tried Chopin's Black Key Etude (pretty fast piece) on both. Kawai does feel slightly more responsive but the difference is little. For pieces at moderate tempo, I bet you can't tell the difference. While Kawai may be superior in terms of repetitive action, it won't make a fast piece easier to play than say a Yamaha and nothing beats diligent practice in my opinion smile

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#1165124 - 03/19/09 05:53 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Pian [Re: Sheue]
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anyone knows why the there is a small red thing in the middle? Is it original?

This is yamaha U3H.


Edited by fogandflower (03/19/09 05:54 AM)

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#1165125 - 03/19/09 05:54 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Pian [Re: fogandflower]
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#1165210 - 03/19/09 11:08 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Pian [Re: fogandflower]
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That is the damper.

Usually, there's two dampers for each notes. But the plate is blocking the dampers to be positioned below the first visual-able damper, so the 2nd damper has to be installed at the top.

My poor piano doesn't have that and that note just likes to sustain. LOL!

But I may be wrong. What I say is just my guess when I play around with my piano only. But I guess it shouldn't be off too far also.

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#1165240 - 03/19/09 12:01 PM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Pian [Re: Sheue]
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Yo Junior!

Yep, nothing beats diligent practice in my opinion too, and very little "things" beat my favorite few - Bosendorfer Phoenix and the SK-X. laugh

Nevertheless, a poorly regulated and tuned piano will definitely "beat" my practice and performance. LOL!

Hiyah, I'm no fan of Robert lah ... you like Yamaha just look for Alex from Tampines or the Alex from Plaza Singapura. One is older while the other is younger lah ... haha! (fei4 hua4 right?) My technician from RP just visit me less than one hour in six months to tune piano only - not free some more. Got to get my own concert tech to regulate and voice some more. You think I happy customer?
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#1165533 - 03/19/09 08:34 PM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Pian [Re: tanjinjack]
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hello tanjinjack, thanks for the reply. Seems Kawai don't have this kind of design.

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#1165544 - 03/19/09 09:17 PM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Pian [Re: fogandflower]
Bihua Offline
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hello tanjinjack, does that work the same way as the middle pedal of a grand piano. My poor piano don't have that function, only to make it softer to play at night.

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#1165547 - 03/19/09 09:22 PM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Pian [Re: Bihua]
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hello fogandflower, the piano inside look nice leh, very clean. Can share more pictures? Hehe smile

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#1165646 - 03/20/09 01:34 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Pian [Re: Bihua]
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only have two more. laugh




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#1165703 - 03/20/09 06:54 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Pian [Re: fogandflower]
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Thanks for sharing the photos! Looks very new internally. Btw, your lace piano cover will not help maintain the RH within the piano – for that you need the full cover. However, the synthetic material used in commercial covers might not be the best for high humidity because I had some mould on the cover of my previous grand, which was not in air-con. On the other hand, with the cover I made (by my own hands, I might add) using cotton for my U3X did not lead to mould, and the best thing was that I could wash it as often as I liked, unlike synthetic covers that usually require dry-cleaning. Just a thought...

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#1165784 - 03/20/09 10:15 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Pian [Re: Roxane]
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hello Roxane, thanks for reminding.

i am plan to change a table runner later, hope it will helpful.

By the way, normally what you guys use to prevent ants, insects in the piano?

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#1165791 - 03/20/09 10:34 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Pian [Re: fogandflower]
tanjinjack Offline
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Wow, more than 2000 posts already. Geng leh!

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#1165818 - 03/20/09 11:32 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Pian [Re: tanjinjack]
Bihua Offline
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My technician says use the black color dried star star thingy (some dried food)and hang it near the hammers. Can prevent insects...

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#1165819 - 03/20/09 11:34 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Pian [Re: Bihua]
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Don't use thirsty hippo inside the piano! I tried with my previous piano and it doesn't work, but actually make it worse...

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#1165837 - 03/20/09 11:58 AM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Pian [Re: Bihua]
tanjinjack Offline
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Originally Posted By: Bihua
My technician says use the black color dried star star thingy (some dried food)and hang it near the hammers. Can prevent insects...


You mean 八角? A kind of food? I guess it's herb.. Not sure..

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#1165842 - 03/20/09 12:05 PM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Pian [Re: fogandflower]
Roxane Offline
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Originally Posted By: fogandflower
hello Roxane, thanks for reminding.

i am plan to change a table runner later, hope it will helpful.

By the way, normally what you guys use to prevent ants, insects in the piano?


Table runner, as in long table cloth? Won't help with RH either – you need the full wrap around cover. In these economic times, you might actually be able to get someone to sew one for you cheap!

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#1165862 - 03/20/09 12:50 PM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Pian [Re: chihuahua]
Sheue Offline
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Loc: Singapore
Yo Snr!

I can understand cos I share the same experience. Had my 1st tuning on my K8 done last week. The technician fr RP made 3 visits but still can't it right!

This is what happened: After 1st tuning, I spotted a couple of keys especially on the high octaves with inconsistent tone after his servicing. They were obvious cos those keys produced very piercing sound. I feedback to RP via email with the problematic keys identified. They sent him down a second time but he called me when he was at my place saying that he didnt find anything wrong (I was in office). We then arranged another visit when I was at home so that I could tell him exactly what the problems were. The way he resolved the piercing sound problem was to use a 2-needle tool and rubbed it against the hammer head to lossen it. While this may ease the piercing sound problem, it also tone-down the sound. In his kind intention to make the sound consistent, he did it on all the keys on the upper 2 octaves instead of just the problematic ones! OMG now I feel there's a dampener when I play the high octaves and the touch is horrible. I did feedback to him on spot but he said if he tone up those keys again (by using an iron), they will all be very piercing and said the sound should project again after few weeks of playing.

There was another problem with a key which had a foreign sound when being hit. It was obvious to me esp since the other keys did not have this foreign sound. But he couldn't hear it and insisted there was none. He nevertheless "trusted" my hearing and kept adjusting the tone/pitch of that key and asked me if I could still hear it after each adjustment! I kept telling him the problem has nothing to do with tone/pitch and after long investigation, we finally found the root of the problem which was the board rather than the string/hammer. He could finally hear the foreign sound by hitting the key with the musical sound fully muted!

I don't know what to do now except to trust him that all these problems with pitching, inconsistent tone are due to my piano being very new and it will improve with time. Its actually hard to convince myself cos the touch was so much better before his servce. This technician as I understand is the most experienced one in RP and to be fair, he's a nice guy and has been patient throughout. I just hope my upper 2 octaves will start to "sing" again soon...

Snr, u said the technician spent <1hr on your piano. That doesn't sound right cos this guy spent at least 1 1/2 hrs to tune mine which is consistent with what the sales person told me. Yours is a grand (you own RX right?) which logically should take longer than upright. Anyone with tunning experience to share, especially on new pianos?

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#1165871 - 03/20/09 01:06 PM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Pian [Re: Bihua]
Sheue Offline
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I think the best way to prevent insects in piano is to play in daily! wink

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#1166049 - 03/20/09 06:55 PM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Pian [Re: Bihua]
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hi bihua, may i know where to buy those black star star thingy?

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#1166050 - 03/20/09 06:56 PM Re: Adult Beginner in Singapore: Buying First Pian [Re: Sheue]
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hi sheue, does it work? But anyway, we will have vacations sometime. So i'd better find some other solutions. wink


Edited by fogandflower (03/20/09 07:03 PM)

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