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#851095 - 07/15/03 12:59 PM TROLLS
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WHAT ARE THEY?????
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#851096 - 07/15/03 01:35 PM Re: TROLLS
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Here is KB climbing a troll. We don't think it's LP.

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#851097 - 07/15/03 01:47 PM Re: TROLLS
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Originally posted by gryphon:
Here is KB climbing a troll. We don't think it's LP.[/b]
But you'll never know for sure. ;\)
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#851098 - 07/15/03 02:12 PM Re: TROLLS
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 Quote:
Originally posted by justme:
WHAT ARE THEY????? [/b]
From Webopedia:

troll

(v.) (1) To deliberately post derogatory or inflammatory comments to a community forum, chat room, newsgroup and/or a blog in order to bait other users into responding.

(2) To surf the Internet.

(3) To hang around a chat room reading the posts instead of contributing to the chat.

(n.) One who performs any of the above actions.

Unfortunately, there is no definition on Webopedia for sock puppet. ;\)
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#851099 - 07/15/03 02:20 PM Re: TROLLS
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Thank you, LP. With the exceptions of #2 and #3 they sound like real scumbags.
BTW, the Federalist Papers were also written by sockpuppets.
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#851100 - 07/15/03 02:25 PM Re: TROLLS
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 Quote:
Originally posted by justme:
BTW, the Federalist Papers were also written by sockpuppets.
justme [/b]
Damn, justme! That was going to be my next installment in my sockpuppets in history series but you let the cat out of the bag! \:D
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#851101 - 07/15/03 02:27 PM Re: TROLLS
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 Quote:
Originally posted by justme:
WHAT ARE THEY????? [/b]
Incendiary posts designed to elicite emotional responses. They are usually untrue and don't often even put forth the view of the poster.
The poster is just "trolling for responses" just as a fisherman might troll for fish, which is indeed what you are when you respond.

Lazy Pianists posts are often trolls IMHO

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#851102 - 07/15/03 02:37 PM Re: TROLLS
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 Quote:
Originally posted by SR:
 Quote:
Originally posted by justme:
WHAT ARE THEY????? [/b]
Incendiary posts designed to elicite emotional responses. They are usually untrue and don't often even put forth the view of the poster.
The poster is just "trolling for responses" just as a fisherman might troll for fish, which is indeed what you are when you respond.

Lazy Pianists posts are often trolls IMHO

Steve [/b]
LP's posts do tend to spark debate. IMHO LP doesn't appear malicious or rude he/she seems to enjoy a good argument not necessarily mud slinging as some posters are doing. It's interesting how some trollers troll for certain fish not necessarily all fish. (did that make sense, I feel like I'm talking in code.)
Thank you for your definition. It will help me not to respond so emotionally.
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#851103 - 07/15/03 02:41 PM Re: TROLLS
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Number 2 in this definition is merely any web user. Number 3 is commonly refered to as a "lurker". Only number 1 is really a "troll". I don't think this "webopedia" is up to speed on this term.
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#851104 - 07/15/03 02:42 PM Re: TROLLS
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LP is not a troll. He's something else though.
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#851105 - 07/15/03 02:47 PM Re: TROLLS
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LP is not a troll at all.

He/she is a Christian liberal and often posts in a very provocative way.

But she respects people and never offends anybody on this forum.

I tend to respect him/her a lot and I am looking forward to the moment when he/she is respected as a person and as the bearer of an opinion.

Being the optimistic, I feel this moment is not very far from now.

God created man and he made him conservative and liberal. And then, He chased both from the Garden of Eden and said : you will spend eternity cursing the other part of yourself.

\:\)
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#851106 - 07/15/03 02:53 PM Re: TROLLS
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 Quote:
Originally posted by benedict:
LP is not a troll at all.

\:\) [/b]
Thanks for explaining that Benedict, boy am I embarrassed. Of course when you agree with an incendiary post you would not see it as a troll.
Don't you see that my post implying the LP is a troll was in itself a troll ? Hooked you didn't it ? \:\)


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#851107 - 07/15/03 03:10 PM Re: TROLLS
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 Quote:
Originally posted by benedict:
LP is not a troll at all.

He/she is a Christian liberal[/b]
I realize very few of us exhibit Christ-like behavior at all times as we should, but in all sincerity I cannot reconcile LP's extremist left positions with the Bible and the teachings and example of Christ.

As for respect, she is now trying to equate her hiding behind another identity with that of people who had to fear very real and devastating repurcussions from the government. She will get respect for herself and her opinions when she admits to owning those opinions.
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#851108 - 07/15/03 03:10 PM Re: TROLLS
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Steve,

Just be careful not to cut your ear
\:D
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#851109 - 07/15/03 03:21 PM Re: TROLLS
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Gryphon,

I have been away for a while. I do not understand this problem of sockpuppet.

As far as I am concerned, LP is the person who signs LP.

One may not agree with his/her opinions (maybe he/she could let us know his/her gender), but I do not see anything in what he/she writes that is not worthy of respect.

JBryan made it very clear that it is best to reply with facts and not with fury.
I agree 100%.

I think a forum can be a process. LP is communicating more and more with everybody and sometimes shows a very pleasant sense of humor.

I had to leave this forum because I got really disturbed by the hatred toward Ariel and LP (or other liberals).

I do not see what qualify any of us to decide whether one is Christian or not.

The core of Christianism is "Love thy neighbor like yourself".

Of course, if one does not love oneself, he will have problems.

But this is not the case in this forum.

In no case can hatred be acceptable behavior in a place of encounter.

Hatred is the ultimate troll.

\:\)
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#851110 - 07/15/03 04:00 PM Re: TROLLS
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 Quote:
Originally posted by benedict:
Hatred is the ultimate troll.[/b]
I know you're trying to be profound, but don't quit your day job. No one hates anyone here, but expecting honesty is not too much to ask.
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#851111 - 07/15/03 04:06 PM Re: TROLLS
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 Quote:
Originally posted by gryphon:
 Quote:
Originally posted by benedict:
LP is not a troll at all.

He/she is a Christian liberal[/b]
I realize very few of us exhibit Christ-like behavior at all times as we should, but in all sincerity I cannot reconcile LP's extremist left positions with the Bible and the teachings and example of Christ.
[/b]
Funny you should say that; my biggest problem with the extreme conservative views expressed here is that they are so contrary to the teachings of Christ, which you all profess to follow closely.

Cheers,

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#851112 - 07/15/03 04:25 PM Re: TROLLS
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In the spirit of truth in advertising, maybe Frank could add a few new avatars - after apropriate resizing, of course:

[img]http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:8q3Q0uOYUekC:www.sct.gu.edu.au/~anthony/icons/large/troll.jpg[/img]

[img]http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:Cycx81G-TdwC:www.timewarp-toys.com/troll.jpg[/img]

[img]http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:BOLtRCL_RT0C:www.dqshrine.com/dq/dq3/troll.jpg[/img]

[img]http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:zIIxOnhzXlEC:www.atmospherians.com/at_avatars/avatars/images/fantasy/troll.jpg[/img]

[img]http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:PlZJOnGmnkEC:www.clicweb.fr/clip/dessins/troll.gif[/img]

[img]http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:DGh4GrDkiMsC:www.wiccabilly.com/images/troll.jpg[/img]

[img]http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:cbBTWYS-9OkC:hem.fyristorg.com/mongobarn/20000715/08-troll-after.jpg[/img]

\:D

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#851113 - 07/15/03 04:27 PM Re: TROLLS
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Really? Do you believe Christ condones abortion? Sex-change operations? Frivolous divorce? Homosexuality?
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#851114 - 07/15/03 04:37 PM Re: TROLLS
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Dwain Lee:
In the spirit of truth in advertising, maybe Frank could add a few new avatars - after apropriate resizing, of course:

[/b]
Love it!!!!!! Man, Dwain, and I thought I was bored..... \:D Who knew when we were playing with trolls as kids how badly they would influence us?
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#851115 - 07/15/03 04:39 PM Re: TROLLS
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Nah, Google image search is just a great thing. If I were really bored, I'd have gone ahead and resized them. ;\)

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#851116 - 07/15/03 04:42 PM Re: TROLLS
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(3) To hang around a chat room reading the posts instead of contributing to the chat.

Originally posted by justme:
With the exception of #2 they sound like real scumbags. [/b]
Nice. You've just insulted hundreds or even thousands of Piano World readers. Forget the nearly 4,000 members, many of whom do not regularly post, but right now there are 48 registered users and 102 guests reading this.
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#851117 - 07/15/03 04:47 PM Re: TROLLS
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 Quote:
Originally posted by gryphon:
Really? Do you believe Christ condones abortion? Sex-change operations? Frivolous divorce? Homosexuality? [/b]
Do you actually believe LP condones all of the above. At any rate, Christ was quite revolutionary for his time. That's one of the reasons he had to die.

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#851118 - 07/15/03 04:49 PM Re: TROLLS
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Sam, from her extensive post history, yes.

And no, Jesus was *not* the first non-violent revolutionary, despite what Stephen Stills says. That was *not* why he had to die. He died as a final sacrifice for our sins. Clarify something for me, are you saying Christ *does* condone those things?
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#851119 - 07/15/03 04:49 PM Re: TROLLS
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 Quote:
Originally posted by gryphon:
 Quote:
(3) To hang around a chat room reading the posts instead of contributing to the chat.

Originally posted by justme:
With the exception of #2 they sound like real scumbags. [/b]
Nice. You've just insulted hundreds or even thousands of Piano World readers. Forget the nearly 4,000 members, many of whom do not regularly post, but right now there are 48 registered users and 102 guests reading this. [/b]
You're right. I changed it. Is that better?
Sorry, folks......
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#851120 - 07/15/03 04:54 PM Re: TROLLS
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Benedict,

Nice to have you back. Yours is a good heart -- a delightful mind.

I hope you have a speedy recovery and no sneezes over the coming days.

Ken

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#851121 - 07/15/03 04:56 PM Re: TROLLS
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Gryphon, Sam -- interesting religious thread seems to be starting - maybe it should be moved to a separate header?

Peace be with you both...

Ken

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#851122 - 07/15/03 04:57 PM Re: TROLLS
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Sam,

Please reaqd gryphon's response to benedict, as he wrote much better than I.

If you have access to what "Christian behavior" absolutely entails, go to the head of the class.

You have just trumped 2000 years of theologic argument.
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#851123 - 07/15/03 04:59 PM Re: TROLLS
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 Quote:
Originally posted by kluurs:
maybe it should be moved to a separate header?[/b]
And this is because...what? Why?

I started a thread about cutting one's limbs off, amputee wannabes, and now it has morphed into an AIDs discussion. That's the way things go here in Algore's invention.
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#851124 - 07/15/03 05:01 PM Re: TROLLS
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 Quote:
Originally posted by gryphon:
Clarify something for me, are you saying Christ *does* condone those things? [/b]
What if he did?
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