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#852890 - 09/14/03 11:25 PM Re: Bush again?
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I'm sure it is a concept with which everyone here is familiar. It is certainly something neither the Afghans nor the Iraqis had before we arrived on the scene. Hopefully, that is something we can leave them with.
Better to light one small candle than to curse the %&#$@#! darkness.

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#852891 - 09/15/03 12:18 AM Re: Bush again?
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Originally posted by kathyk:
Has anyone here ever heard of the concept of self-determination? [/b]
The people of Afghanistan and Iraq stand a much better chance at self-determination now under occupation than they ever would under Taliban or clerical tyrants of any sort.
"The older the fiddle, the sweeter the music"~ Augustus McCrae

#852892 - 09/15/03 12:27 AM Re: Bush again?
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JA, the best thing I can say to you now is even Dick Gephardt says the French are idiots for their proposals. Of course, he also says that France is France, they're just ignorant and arrogant that way, but in the end they are still our frinds so we have to play hard ball with them and tell them "no" but still keep them on board.

Now why we need them on board in the first place he didn't explain.
"If we lose freedom here, there's no place to escape to."
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