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#880709 - 04/15/05 05:14 PM Re: The Crusaders
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Wait Quirt, let's not confuse Orthodoxy with Anglican! \:\)
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#880710 - 04/15/05 06:06 PM Re: The Crusaders
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Can you use the quote feature, QuirtEvans? That would make your posts easier to read.

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#880711 - 04/15/05 06:11 PM Re: The Crusaders
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1. I stand by my statements.

2. it is obvious that quirt has never had a "come to Jesus" momement, as he is utterly unaware of what it is.

3. If I am not mistaken, you took Constitutional Law. Does not that include review of the Federalist Papers, and current letters of the time? If not, how does one square what the original intent of the document is supposed to be?
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#880712 - 04/15/05 06:13 PM Re: The Crusaders
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Actually, I'd like to refocus the thread back on yby's original post. Larry derailed it to a discussion of whether yby was a troll.

"Christian evangelicals are plotting to remake America in their own image

By BOB MOSER


It's February, and 900 of America's staunchest Christian fundamentalists have gathered in Fort Lauderdale to look back on what they accomplished in last year's election -- and to plan what's next. As they assemble in the vast sanctuary of Coral Ridge Presbyterian, with all fifty state flags dangling from the rafters, three stadium-size video screens flash the name of the conference: RECLAIMING AMERICA FOR CHRIST. These are the evangelical activists behind the nation's most effective political machine -- one that brought more than 4 million new Christian voters to the polls last November, sending George W. Bush back to the White House and thirty-two new pro-lifers to Congress. But despite their unprecedented power, fundamentalists still see themselves as a persecuted minority, waging a holy war against the godless forces of secularism. To rouse themselves, they kick off the festivities with "Soldiers of the Cross, Arise," the bloodthirstiest tune in all of Christendom: "Seize your armor, gird it on/Now the battle will be won/Soon, your enemies all slain/Crowns of glory you shall gain."
Meet the Dominionists -- biblical literalists who believe God has called them to take over the U.S. government. As the far-right wing of the evangelical movement, Dominionists are pressing an agenda that makes Newt Gingrich's Contract With America look like the Communist Manifesto. They want to rewrite schoolbooks to reflect a Christian version of American history, pack the nation's courts with judges who follow Old Testament law, post the Ten Commandments in every courthouse and make it a felony for gay men to have sex and women to have abortions. In Florida, when the courts ordered Terri Schiavo's feeding tube removed, it was the Dominionists who organized round-the-clock protests and issued a fiery call for Gov. Jeb Bush to defy the law and take Schiavo into state custody. Their ultimate goal is to plant the seeds of a "faith-based" government that will endure far longer than Bush's presidency -- all the way until Jesus comes back.

"Most people hear them talk about a 'Christian nation' and think, 'Well, that sounds like a good, moral thing,' says the Rev. Mel White, who ghostwrote Jerry Falwell's autobiography before breaking with the evangelical movement. "What they don't know -- what even most conservative Christians who voted for Bush don't know -- is that 'Christian nation' means something else entirely to these Dominionist leaders. This movement is no more about following the example of Christ than Bush's Clean Water Act is about clean water."

The godfather of the Dominionists is D. James Kennedy, the most influential evangelical you've never heard of. A former Arthur Murray dance instructor, he launched his Florida ministry in 1959, when most evangelicals still followed Billy Graham's gospel of nonpartisan soul-saving. Kennedy built Coral Ridge Ministries into a $37-million-a-year empire, with a TV-and-radio audience of 3 million, by preaching that it was time to save America -- not soul by soul but election by election. After helping found the Moral Majority in 1979, Kennedy became a five-star general in the Christian army. Bush sought his blessing before running for president -- and continues to consult top Dominionists on matters of federal policy.

"Our job is to reclaim America for Christ, whatever the cost," Kennedy says. "As the vice regents of God, we are to exercise godly dominion and influence over our neighborhoods, our schools, our government, our literature and arts, our sports arenas, our entertainment media, our news media, our scientific endeavors -- in short, over every aspect and institution of human society."

At Reclaiming America, most of the conference is taken up by grassroots training sessions that supply ministers, retirees and devout churchgoers with "The Facts of Stem-Cell Research" or "Practical Steps to Impact Your Community with America's Historical Judeo-Christian Heritage." "We're going to turn you into an army of one," Gary Cass, executive director of Reclaiming America, promises activists at one workshop held in Evangalism Explosion Hall. The Dominionists also attend speeches by supporters like Rep. Katherine Harris of Florida, who urges them to "win back America for God." In their spare time, conference-goers buy books about a God-devised health program called the Maker's Diet or meet with a financial adviser who offers a "biblically sound investment plan."

To implement their sweeping agenda, the Dominionists are working to remake the federal courts in God's image. In their view, the Founding Fathers never intended to erect a barrier between politics and religion. "The First Amendment does not say there should be a separation of church and state," declares Alan Sears, president and CEO of the Alliance Defense Fund, a team of 750 attorneys trained by the Dominionists to fight abortion and gay marriage. Sears argues that the constitutional guarantee against state-sponsored religion is actually designed to "shield" the church from federal interference -- allowing Christians to take their rightful place at the head of the government. "We have a right, indeed an obligation, to govern," says David Limbaugh, brother of Rush and author of Persecution: How Liberals Are Waging War Against Christianity. Nothing gets the Dominionists to their feet faster than ringing condemnations of judicial tyranny. "Activist judges have systematically deconstructed the Constitution," roars Rick Scarborough, author of Mixing Church and State. "A God-free society is their goal!"

Activist judges, of course, are precisely what the Dominionists want. Their model is Roy Moore, the former Alabama chief justice who installed a 5,300-pound granite memorial to the Ten Commandments, complete with an open Bible carved in its top, in the state judicial building. At Reclaiming America, Roy's Rock sits out front, fresh off a tour of twenty-one states, perched on the flag-festooned flatbed of a diesel truck, a potent symbol of the "faith-based" justice the Dominionists are bent on imposing. Activists at the conference pose for photographs beside the rock and have circulated a petition urging President Bush to appoint Moore -- who once penned an opinion calling for the state to execute "practicing homosexuals" -- to the U.S. Supreme Court.

"The other side knows we've got strongholds in the executive and legislative branches," Cass tells the troops. "If we start winning the judiciary, their power base is going to be eroded."

To pack the courts with fundamentalists like Moore, Dominionist leaders are planning a massive media blitz. They're also pressuring Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist -- an ally who's courting support for his presidential bid -- to halt the long-standing use of filibusters to hold up judicial nominations. An anti-filibuster petition circulating at the conference blasts Democrats for their "outrageous stonewalling of appointments" -- even though Congress has approved more nominees of Bush than of any president since Jimmy Carter.

It helps that Dominionists have a direct line to the White House: The Rev. Richard Land, top lobbyist for the 16-million-member Southern Baptist Convention, enjoys a weekly conference call with top Bush advisers including Karl Rove. "We've got the Holy Spirit's wind at our backs!" Land declares in an arm-waving, red-faced speech. He takes particular aim at the threat posed by John Lennon, denouncing "Imagine" as a "secular anthem" that envisions a future of "clone plantations, child sacrifice, legalized polygamy and hard-core porn."

The Dominionists are also stepping up efforts to turn public schools into forums for evangelism. In a landmark case, the Alliance Defense Fund is suing a California school district that threatened to dismiss a born-again teacher who was evangelizing fifth-graders. In the conference's opening ceremony, the Dominionists recite an oath they dream of hearing in every classroom: "I pledge allegiance to the Christian flag, and to the Savior for whose kingdom it stands. One Savior, crucified, risen and coming again, with life and liberty for all who believe."

Cass urges conference-goers to stack school boards with Dominionists. "The most humble Christian is more qualified for office than the best-educated pagan," says Cass, an anti-abortion activist who led a takeover of his school district's board in San Diego. "We built quite a little grass-roots machine out there. Now it's my burden to multiply that success all across America."

Cass points to the Rev. Gary Beeler, a Baptist minister from Tennessee who got permission for thousands of students to skip class and attend weeklong events that he calls "old-time revivals, with preaching and singing and soul-saving and the whole nine yards." Now, with support from Kennedy, Beeler is selling his house and buying a mobile home to spread his crusade nationwide. "It's not exactly what I planned to do with my retirement," he says. "But it's what God told me to do."

Cass also presents another small-town activist, Kevin McCoy, with a Salt and Light Award for leading a successful campaign to shut down an anti-bullying program in West Virginia schools. McCoy, a soft-spoken, prematurely gray postal worker, fought to end the program because it taught tolerance for gay people -- and thus, in his view, constituted a "thinly disguised effort to promote the homosexual agenda." "What America needs," Cass tells the faithful, "is more Kevin McCoys."

While the dominionists rely on grass-roots activists to fight their battles, they are backed by some of America's richest entrepreneurs. Amway founder Rich DeVos, a Kennedy ally who's the leading Republican contender for governor of Michigan, has tossed more than $5 million into the collection plate. Jean Case, wife of former AOL chief Steve Case -- whose fortune was made largely on sex-chat rooms -- has donated $8 million. And Tom Monaghan, founder of Domino's Pizza, is a major source of cash for Focus on the Family, a megaministry working with Kennedy to eliminate all public schools.

The one-two punch of militant activists and big money has helped make the Dominionists a force in Washington, where a growing number of congressmen owe their elections to the machine. Kennedy has also created the Center for Christian Statesmanship, which trains elected officials to "more effectively share their faith in the public arena." Speaking to the group, House Majority Whip Tom DeLay -- a winner of Kennedy's Distinguished Christian Statesman Award -- called Bush's faith-based initiatives "a great opportunity to bring God back into the public institutions of our country."

The most vivid proof of the Christianizing of Capitol Hill comes at the final session of Reclaiming America. Rep. Walter Jones, a lanky congressman from North Carolina, gives a fire-and-brimstone speech that would have gotten him laughed out of Washington thirty years ago. In today's climate, however, he's got a chance of passing his pet project, the Houses of Worship Free Speech Restoration Act, which would permit ministers to endorse political candidates from their pulpits, effectively converting their tax-exempt churches into Republican campaign headquarters.

"America is under assault!" Jones thunders as his aides dash around the sanctuary snapping PR photos. "Everyone in America has the right to speak freely, except for those standing in the pulpits of our churches!" The amen chorus reaches a fever pitch. Hands fly heavenward. It's one thing to hear such words from Dominionist leaders -- but to this crowd, there's nothing more thrilling than getting the gospel from a U.S. congressman. "You cannot have a strong nation that does not follow God," Jones preaches, working up to a climactic, passionate plea for a biblical republic. "God, please -- God, please -- God, please -- save America!"

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#880713 - 04/15/05 06:17 PM Re: The Crusaders
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I'm evangelical, and I vote.

You got something against that?
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#880714 - 04/15/05 06:20 PM Re: The Crusaders
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If your relgious convictions clouds your judgment, then yes.

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#880715 - 04/15/05 08:05 PM Re: The Crusaders
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"I stand by my statements."

And I'll ask again, where are those four examples where I slammed Larry before he started flaming or namecalling? Stand by whatever you like, but I'd like to see the proof on this one. Otherwise, you're making unsupported accusations without giving me a chance to defend myself. Is that the kind of person you are?

"it is obvious that quirt has never had a "come to Jesus" momement, as he is utterly unaware of what it is."

It depends on whether you mean it literally, or figuratively. But, in either case, you really have no idea whether I have or have not had such a moment.

"If I am not mistaken, you took Constitutional Law. Does not that include review of the Federalist Papers, and current letters of the time?"

Actually, no, it doesn't. Law school is not about teaching specific answers to specific issues. Law school is more about teaching basic principles and how to think about legal questions, when they come up. You can't possibly answer every conceivable question during a one-semester course, so you teach law students how to analyze the issue themselves. Sort of along the lines of "give a man a fish, and he eats for a day; teach him to fish, and he eats for a lifetime."

I'm sure that dismays you. But that's the way it's been, for as long as I am aware, in most of the law schools in the land. Including during that period that you keep referring to, when lawyers were in higher public repute.

As for how you go about figuring out "original intent", on that point, I will direct you to Justice Scalia. Justice Scalia does not believe in using legislative history to discern the meaning of laws. His view is that, if it was relevant, it would have been put into the text; if it's not in the text, it has little if any relevance. Therefore, he has said that a judge should rely almost exclusively on the words themselves, and not on what anyone said at the time about what the words were intended to mean.

Since he's almost certainly going to be the next Chief Justice, you might want to consider that.
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#880716 - 04/15/05 09:51 PM Re: The Crusaders
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Originally posted by bcarey:
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"This movement is no more about following the example of Christ than Bush's Clean Water Act is about clean water."
Amen!

These people are genuine bona fide loonies. They want to eliminate secularism from the US government, destroy all governmental programs like social security, medicare, and medicaid, repeal Roe vs. Wade, force schools to teach their brand of religion, and stack the courts with their likes. Of course, then they won't be called activist judges because they will act at their bidding. ;\)

IMHO, they are extremely dangerous. Funny thing is, I don't think most Americans realize just how dangerous. [/b]
I agree about their danger. I thyink they are VERY dangerous.

I found the article very thought provoking and scary -- especially when one juxtoposes it with the power of people like Tom Delay and their desire to seek retribution against judges who hold up the law instead of their personal morality.

Need anything more be said about how these people want to remake the US in their own image?

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#880717 - 04/15/05 10:02 PM Re: The Crusaders
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Originally posted by Jolly:
Save a SUV, shoot an Arab.
[/b]
Followed by...

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Originally posted by Eusebius:
Careful Jolly...RZ may be keeping a tally of those allusions to violence. ;\) [/b]
And not long afterwards came...

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Originally posted by Jolly:
[QUOTE] With that small insight, perhaps we can explain my "nuke 'em 'till they glow, then shoot 'em in the dark" philosophy. [/b]
One need not tally them. They come too often one would lose track. And they offend every time.

There was a discussion a day or so ago about Bernard's picture of his innocent kiss of Preston on the cheek and how it was offensive to some.

Why is an innocent expression of affection offensive to so many and Jolly's constant thoughts of killing and maiming people considered acceptable?

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#880718 - 04/16/05 03:28 AM Re: The Crusaders
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from the original article
"Jean Case, wife of former AOL chief Steve Case -- whose fortune was made largely on sex-chat rooms -- has donated $8 million. "
[/b]


Steve Case's wife? Is Steve Case a bible thumper? Anyone know?

that might explain why he was oil-and-water with the tw folks, if so.
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#880719 - 04/16/05 06:39 PM Re: The Crusaders
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Jolly: "I'm evangelical, and I vote.

You got something against that?"

That's an odd response to the article. Did you read it? Here is a sample quote: "In the conference's opening ceremony, the Dominionists recite an oath they dream of hearing in every classroom: "I pledge allegiance to the Christian flag, and to the Savior for whose kingdom it stands. One Savior, crucified, risen and coming again, with life and liberty for all who believe."

If your comment indicated that you support this, then yes, I have a problem with it. Did it? It is not our system of government, it is not what has made the US a successful nation. We do not live by majority rule, but by a system of laws and freedoms, whereby even democratic majorities cannot override the rights of minorities. Do you have a problem with that?

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#880720 - 04/16/05 07:47 PM Re: The Crusaders
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de Tocqueville described it as the "tyranny of the majority", when the majority uses its majority power to abuse the minority.

Our Founding Fathers were trying to avoid that sort of tyranny. I guess if someone had read the Federalist Papers, they'd know that.

Edit: And yes, I know that de Tocqueville was born after our Constitution was adopted. The concept was already there, even if de Tocqueville's description of it was not.
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#880721 - 04/16/05 09:10 PM Re: The Crusaders
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We do not live by majority rule, but by a system of laws and freedoms, whereby even democratic majorities cannot override the rights of minorities. Do you have a problem with that? [/b]
Do you?
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#880722 - 04/17/05 04:42 AM Re: The Crusaders
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 Quote:
Originally posted by RZ:
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Originally posted by Jolly:
Save a SUV, shoot an Arab.
[/b]
Followed by...

 Quote:
Originally posted by Eusebius:
Careful Jolly...RZ may be keeping a tally of those allusions to violence. ;\) [/b]
And not long afterwards came...

 Quote:
Originally posted by Jolly:
[QUOTE] With that small insight, perhaps we can explain my "nuke 'em 'till they glow, then shoot 'em in the dark" philosophy. [/b]
One need not tally them. They come too often one would lose track. And they offend every time.

There was a discussion a day or so ago about Bernard's picture of his innocent kiss of Preston on the cheek and how it was offensive to some.

Why is an innocent expression of affection offensive to so many and Jolly's constant thoughts of killing and maiming people considered acceptable? [/b]
You missed the best one...I wrote the one about shooting the family running out of the burning building, and decapitating the family pet, just for you.

Some folks just don't appreciate effort....
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#880723 - 04/17/05 05:08 AM Re: The Crusaders
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de Tocqueville described it as the "tyranny of the majority", when the majority uses its majority power to abuse the minority.

Our Founding Fathers were trying to avoid that sort of tyranny. I guess if someone had read the Federalist Papers, they'd know that.

Edit: And yes, I know that de Tocqueville was born after our Constitution was adopted. The concept was already there, even if de Tocqueville's description of it was not. [/b]
A couple of points...

1. Yep, I do like Scalia. I think he has the best intellect on the court today, and I believe he recognizes the proper Constitutional authority of the court. It has been his bent to not stick his nose into places where it does not belong, and to write forcefully in places where it does.

You twist his interpretation of the Constitution, however. He is an "original intent" proponent, and I don't see how the Federalist Papers contradict that stance, since that is why they were written - to explain the Constitution to the populance.

2. The framers never meant to institute the tyranny of the minority , either. We live in a republic, a representative democracy[/b] . While that means our representatives have the power to negate public sentiment at the moment, it does not[/b] mean they have immunity from the ballot box.

If the majority can be sustained, the desired political effect can be accomplished within the bounds of the Constitution. Therefore, one man, one vote.

Any group, except for some strange reason those that have a conservative religious nature in your opinion, are free to exercise their Franchise as they see fit, and to elect those people most agreeable with their view of the world.

Well, I'm sorry folks, but evangelicals vote, as do conservative Catholics, or conservative Muslims, or the growing number of conservative Jews.

And while this country is in no danger of becoming a theocracy, a little God wouldn't hurt a bunch of y'all.

Hopefully, it'll scare the Hell out of you.

Literally.
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#880724 - 04/17/05 05:51 AM Re: The Crusaders
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"You twist his interpretation of the Constitution, however. He is an "original intent" proponent, and I don't see how the Federalist Papers contradict that stance, since that is why they were written - to explain the Constitution to the populance."

Spoken like someone who hasn't read much of what Scalia has written. I'd be willing to bet heaps of money that I've read more of Scalia's writings than you have.

As for whether Scalia would believe in using the Federalist Papers to interpret the Constitution -- he doesn't believe in legislative intent. Original intent is just another form of legislative intent. If it's inappropriate to look at what legislators might have said outside the four corners of the laws they wrote when interpreting those laws (and that is Scalia's oft-repeated view), how then is it proper to look at what the writers of the Constitution might have said outside the four corners of that document?

Here's a clue -- intellectual consistency is your friend.
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#880725 - 04/17/05 06:48 AM Re: The Crusaders
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You may have rerad more of Scalia's stuff, I'll not argue that point.

However, the point that the Framer's explanations of the Constitution is the same as modern legislative intent is ludicrous.
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#880726 - 04/17/05 10:22 AM Re: The Crusaders
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"However, the point that the Framer's explanations of the Constitution is the same as modern legislative intent is ludicrous."

Now, that's powerful, persuasive analysis. With cogent and incisive thinking like that, the rest of us should just fold up our tents and go home.

Or perhaps you might try to explain why one kind of legislative history is different than the other, with something more than one-word adjectives.
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#880727 - 04/17/05 11:57 AM Re: The Crusaders
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Originally posted by QuirtEvans:
"However, the point that the Framer's explanations of the Constitution is the same as modern legislative intent is ludicrous."

Now, that's powerful, persuasive analysis. With cogent and incisive thinking like that, the rest of us should just fold up our tents and go home.

Or perhaps you might try to explain why one kind of legislative history is different than the other, with something more than one-word adjectives. [/b]
The very essence of the worst of legaldom, is a verbosity that passes all understanding.

I prefer to be understood.

I said exactly what I meant, it's not rocket science. You're a big boy, figure it out...
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#880728 - 04/17/05 12:08 PM Re: The Crusaders
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Originally posted by Jolly:
You may have rerad more of Scalia's stuff, I'll not argue that point.

However, the point that the Framer's explanations of the Constitution is the same as modern legislative intent is ludicrous. [/b]
As I understand it, the Courts look to legislative intent when they are asked to intepret legislation, not when they are asked to determine the constitutionality of legislation.

If they are asked to rule on the consitutionality of legislation, they often go to the Framers intent and also go to how that intent has been interpreted by Courts through the history of thr country.

I see no discrepancy between the Court's attempt to understand legislative intent and the Court's attempt to understand the intent of the writers of the Constitution because each is used for different purposes.

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#880729 - 04/17/05 01:10 PM Re: The Crusaders
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"I said exactly what I meant, it's not rocket science. You're a big boy, figure it out..."

You said one word, ludicrous. The rest of the sentence was simply setting out the parameters of what was ludicrous.

Your inability to put more than one word to the thought suggests that you may not have a more sophisticated analysis or thought process on this subject.

On the other hand, your belief that one-word adjectival analysis is actually analysis explains an awful lot. For example, it does put some color on why Louisiana has some of the worst overall schools and worst overall test scores in the country.
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#880730 - 04/17/05 01:24 PM Re: The Crusaders
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Quirt, your a dick, simple enough for ya?
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#880731 - 04/17/05 01:29 PM Re: The Crusaders
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I better get out of here before I get the sh** kicked out of me, you guys in the coffee room play tough.
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#880732 - 04/17/05 01:32 PM Re: The Crusaders
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"Quirt, your a dick, simple enough for ya?"

That would be "you're".
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#880733 - 04/17/05 02:06 PM Re: The Crusaders
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Originally posted by QuirtEvans:
"Quirt, your a dick, simple enough for ya?"

That would be "you're". [/b]
Look at the bright side....Viagra will help you grow ...taller.
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#880734 - 04/17/05 02:39 PM Re: The Crusaders
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On the other hand, your belief that one-word adjectival analysis is actually analysis explains an awful lot. For example, it does put some color on why Louisiana has some of the worst overall schools and worst overall test scores in the country.
Absolutely.

It's a funny state...some of the worst schools in the country are in New Orleans, yet MCLNO is probably the oldest indigent healthcare facility in the nation. Shreveport gave you Johhny Cochran, and some of the most cutting edge opthamology work in the world. I know Jerry Lee's family well enough to know cousin Mickey changed the way his name is pronounced when he left town, the same little one-horse stop that produced Howard K Smith.

We can lay claim to quite a few jazz legends, a piano doctor or two, zydeco, chankety-chank, Saturday morning at Fred's in Grand Mamou, and you can still hear the blue tones of a hollow-body Gibson if you saunter past the right delta honkey-tonk on Saturday night.

It's a place where a kid with a "B" average in high school will go to any state university, tuition free.

The average Louisana cook can turn out better food by accident, than you can on purpose. And we produce more professional athletes per capita than anywhere else in the United States.

Not to mention that politics is a spectator sport down here, simply because we have the best politicians money can buy...funny, most of those snakes are attorneys..gee, I wonder...nah, can't be...as Jimmy Durante used to say, "It must be a ko-winky dink", huh?

Now, that probably doesn't explain our poor school system, but maybe it does explain why if you are born in this state, you are more likely to die in this state than anywhere else in the union, because even if we roam, we always dream of coming back home. We are what we are, and proud of it - warts and all.

I'm just a product of it, public schools, and private schools, and the fellow that taught me to be brief was schooled at Oxford. It doesn't take a lot of words, if you know what you want to say. And while I may not be the smartest man in the world, I'm an old-timey country boy that recognizes a cow pattie when he sees it.

I'll try not to step on you....
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#880735 - 04/17/05 03:43 PM Re: The Crusaders
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"I'm an old-timey country boy that recognizes a cow pattie when he sees it."

It's not hard for you to recognize it, when so much of it comes out of your own mouth.

But at least we know now that, for you, a one-word adjective passes for analysis. That's really all we need to know about your deep thinking.
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#880736 - 04/17/05 08:08 PM Re: The Crusaders
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Originally posted by QuirtEvans:
"I'm an old-timey country boy that recognizes a cow pattie when he sees it."

It's not hard for you to recognize it, when so much of it comes out of your own mouth.

But at least we know now that, for you, a one-word adjective passes for analysis. That's really all we need to know about your deep thinking. [/b]
Do you wiggle your ears, and stick your tongue out with those eloquent statements?

Or was that not part of moot court?
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