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Originally posted by Ariel:
Larry, other dealers (current or "retired"), techns, piano-owners,

Don't know who wll check in about this elaboration to my initial question, but three things:

1) What are your [b]personal experiences
with reporting dissatisfaction with something about your piano and how was it handled? Or - from techs or dealers, what are some of your stories regarding different makes?

2) How much does the dealer factor in?

3) What about transportation expenses? By that I mean, what if you purchased your piano from a dealer distant from your home and the problem is so serious the piano needs to be shipped somewhere (to them or further) for work?

Is this ever covered - or "helped with"? I was disconcerted to say the least, speaking to Faust Harrison to learn that it was entirely possible that an Estonia grand might have to be shipped back to Estonia for certain problems, paid for by the purchaser (but it wasn't "that expensive" eek ).

And digressing a bit on Estonias, I had also heard from a very reputable , former dealer (no, they dropped the line not that they were dropped) that they had had to deal with a number of cracked sound-boards (apparently from insufficiently aged wood) and two cases of legs which had snapped off. These pianos were produced before the last two years when I know they have improved their materials and workmanship, but still...

If I had to ship my piano back to a dealer - as I most certainly would have to since I am at least four hours from any large dealership besides that local one - it would already be at least $1000 extra round trip and maybe twice that. If it's clearly a problem with the "workmanship" etc. this concerns me.

Thanks for all replies! And to Larry for comments earlier.[/b]
I have extensive experience with both Yamaha and Young Chang. Both service departments are VERY responsive and liberal in their interpretation of thier responsibilities.

The dealer is a very important aspect. Some dealers drive their manufacturers crazy and some work with them happily. I see myself as an advocate for the customer in any valid warranty situation.

Transportation fees are reimbursable if billed to the manufacturer by the dealership. I usually absorb them as a courtesy to my suppliers, but if I asked for it, I'd get it (at least with Yamaha and YC). This is true regardless of cost. It is part of the budget set-aside manufacturers have for warranty costs.

Also, pianos are almost never sent back to the factory for warranty work. It is almost alway cheaper to replace the instrument with a new one, and most warranties specify that option.


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I was disconcerted to say the least, speaking to Faust Harrison to learn that it was entirely possible that an Estonia grand might have to be shipped back to Estonia for certain problems, paid for by the purchaser
Ariel,

I don't know why anyone at F-H would say that. I have only had two warranty claims with Estonia pianos - both were taken care of quickly and with no problems at all by the Estonia company.

Hmmmm....


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Same here.

In fact I sold an Estonia grand years ago to Ontario, the owner of which contacted me recently and indicated an alleged problem with 'soft pins'

After speaking with the local tech there for a few minutes and one single call to Dr. Laul in New York, the go ahead was given for a complete repinning in less than a minute.

Never even met the owner! smile

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