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#916292 - 12/04/04 06:49 AM Spot the Fake Smile!
ycul Offline
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This is fun if you've got a spare few minutes. \:\)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/mind/surveys/smiles/index.shtml
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#916293 - 12/04/04 07:06 AM Re: Spot the Fake Smile!
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Loc: Washington D.C. Metro
Spoilers coming:

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I was dreadful. I got 7 of 20, and I couldn't come up with a consistent methodology.

First I figured fake smiles would be bigger. Then I decided, no, real smiles would have head movement. Then I swerved and decided real smiles would start with a naturally smiley expression and increase from there. Then I decided to just go with the women and penalize them if they didn't display any teeth.

Cindy -- smiling right now
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#916294 - 12/04/04 07:22 AM Re: Spot the Fake Smile!
ycul Offline
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Spot The Fake Smile

Results
You got 18 out of 20 correct
Look at the labels below each image to see which smiles are genuine and which are fake.
Ticks and crosses show which smiles you got right and wrong.
Click on the image if you want to see the smile again.

Yippee!!

It's all in the eyes and the speed with which their face returns to it's non-smiling expression. ;\)
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#916295 - 12/04/04 07:26 AM Re: Spot the Fake Smile!
Cindysphinx Offline


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The speed?

Which is more genuine -- a slow recovery or a fast one?
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#916296 - 12/04/04 07:27 AM Re: Spot the Fake Smile!
ycul Offline
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A slow one!
Edit: Also, watch the shoulders!
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#916297 - 12/04/04 07:40 AM Re: Spot the Fake Smile!
Nina Offline
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Jeez, I only got 9 out of 20. I was so distracted by the individuals themselves... particularly #13 who had a weird hairline.

I was also trying to figure out their experimental procedure to get people to do real smiles but turn them off quickly.

I'll try again now that I know the secret...

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#916298 - 12/04/04 07:45 AM Re: Spot the Fake Smile!
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Registered: 08/31/04
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Loc: Wisconsin
16 out of 20 Correct.
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#916299 - 12/04/04 07:51 AM Re: Spot the Fake Smile!
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I got 18 right also...I was a little hard on one of the men, I think. I took one look at him and decided "genuine" was not something he was capable of. \:\) I got all the women right, but missed two "genuine" men. It's easy to tell really. It never occurred to me to look at their mouths. Dead eyes are a dead give away. Which ones did you miss? I got the last guy in the third row, and the next to the last guy in the fourth wrong.
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#916300 - 12/04/04 09:31 AM Re: Spot the Fake Smile!
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That was interesting! I got 16 of 20. I was watching the eyes and shoulders.
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#916301 - 12/04/04 11:05 AM Re: Spot the Fake Smile!
plays88skeys Offline
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11 out of 20
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#916302 - 12/04/04 11:31 AM Re: Spot the Fake Smile!
Eusebius Offline
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16 out of 20
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#916303 - 12/04/04 01:04 PM Re: Spot the Fake Smile!
jinganinja Offline
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Registered: 12/04/04
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You got 12 out of 20 correct


lol, i didnt do so bad =)
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#916304 - 12/04/04 01:18 PM Re: Spot the Fake Smile!
Hepcat Offline
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Registered: 06/03/03
Posts: 254
16 right!


Genuine smiles, on the other hand, are generated by the unconscious brain, so are automatic. When people feel pleasure, signals pass through the part of the brain that processes emotion. As well as making the mouth muscles move, the muscles that raise the cheeks the orbicularis oculi and the pars orbitalis also contract, making the eyes crease up, and the eyebrows dip slightly.

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#916305 - 12/04/04 02:38 PM Re: Spot the Fake Smile!
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I got 18 out of 20. I got 11 and 17 wrong. I thought that the fake smiles looked somewhat more "artificial" than the real ones, though I have no idea what exactly I was looking for.
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#916306 - 12/04/04 04:24 PM Re: Spot the Fake Smile!
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That was a FREAKSHOW[/b]

(13 out of 20.)
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#916307 - 12/04/04 04:28 PM Re: Spot the Fake Smile!
jodi Offline
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I only got 12 out of 20. But I got better as it went along...

That was bizarre, wasn't it? And how do THEY know which smiles were fake and which weren't? I mean, what did they say to the people - "ok, fake a smile, good. Now smile for real"?

\:\) Jodi (that was a fake one)
\:\) Jodi (that was a real one)

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#916308 - 12/04/04 04:37 PM Re: Spot the Fake Smile!
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I too have wondered about their methodology, and here's what I've come up with:

They get these people to volunteer for an experiment but don't tell them exactly what it is. So when a person is standing there, wondering what in God's name is gonna happen, the experimenter makes some sort of off-hand banter and probably slips a real corker of a joke in there...something like "Ok, now I just need you to drop trow so I can measure the radius of your anus...JUST KIDDING!" The person smiles, of course. A little later, after he or she has recovered, the experiementer asks for a fake smile. Hence, at the end, he has a real smile and a fake smile from each person that he can choose from.

Just an idea. \:\)
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#916309 - 12/04/04 04:40 PM Re: Spot the Fake Smile!
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AHHHHHHH!!!!! I talked about anuses in my 500th!! \:\(
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#916310 - 12/04/04 07:09 PM Re: Spot the Fake Smile!
Terrytunes Offline
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17 correct

I tried to come up with an answer before I pushed the start button. One time I tried to view it a 2nd time but ta-ta-ta!!!

In most cases I believe I stayed with my first response.

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#916311 - 12/04/04 09:44 PM Re: Spot the Fake Smile!
jodi Offline
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Eusebius:
AHHHHHHH!!!!! I talked about anuses in my 500th!! \:\( [/b]
:D \:D \:D

What is the plural of anus, anyway? Ani?

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#916312 - 12/04/04 09:56 PM Re: Spot the Fake Smile!
teachum Offline
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Not so good - 11 out of 20.
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#916313 - 12/04/04 11:06 PM Re: Spot the Fake Smile!
Axtremus Offline
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Registered: 08/29/03
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14 out of 20.

Got #1, #2, #4, #5, #18, and #20 wrong. Focused mostly on areas around the eyes once I got past the first few.
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#916314 - 12/05/04 12:04 AM Re: Spot the Fake Smile!
Oleander Offline
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15 out of 20 correct. I gave four of my five incorrect answers in the first five faces.

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#916315 - 12/05/04 09:58 AM Re: Spot the Fake Smile!
CrashTest Offline
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You got 17 out of 20 correct

\:D

I just looked at their eyes, you can tell when they are really smiling, or when it is forced.

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#916316 - 12/05/04 10:01 AM Re: Spot the Fake Smile!
ycul Offline
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Anyone remember this.........

"Don't look in eyes Rex. DON'T LOOK IN THE EYES!"

I'll give you a clue. The line was spoken by Christopher Lee. ;\)
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#916317 - 12/05/04 07:40 PM Re: Spot the Fake Smile!
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17 out of 20
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#916318 - 12/06/04 06:30 AM Re: Spot the Fake Smile!
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I got 12 out of 20 right.

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I tried to come up with an answer before I pushed the start button.
A little off topic, but there have been studies about how an impression of a person is formed in the first 8 seconds of seeing that person and what happens after that does not matter. (The article was about interviewing).

One of the examples in the study was about teacher evaluations. The study looked at actual student evaluations of a teacher and then had a completely different set of people look at an eight second video clip of the same teacher during the initial introduction to the class. Amazingly, the evaluations of the people who only saw the teacher for eight seconds (and had no idea of their teaching skill) were almost the same as the students who had worked with the teacher for the whole semester.

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#916319 - 12/06/04 08:16 AM Re: Spot the Fake Smile!
kenny Offline
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 Quote:
Originally posted by jodi:
 Quote:
Originally posted by Eusebius:
AHHHHHHH!!!!! I talked about anuses in my 500th!! \:\( [/b]
:D \:D \:D

What is the plural of anus, anyway? Ani? [/b]
Jodi, you won't believe this but I was going to post the exact same thing.

Ani! \:D


I got 12

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#916320 - 12/06/04 08:19 AM Re: Spot the Fake Smile!
Axtremus Offline
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 Quote:
Originally posted by kenny:
Ani! \:D


I got 12 [/b]
Is that normal?
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#916321 - 12/06/04 09:51 AM Re: Spot the Fake Smile!
kenny Offline
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Axtremus:
 Quote:
Originally posted by kenny:
Ani! \:D


I got 12 [/b]
Is that normal? [/b]
:o
I use a lot of toilet paper.
\:o

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