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#918018 - 07/05/07 07:02 PM fur elise: love/hate?
B Sharp Major Offline
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Registered: 06/10/06
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Loc: Denver
Is Beethoven’s Fur Elise the ultimate in pieces that people either love or hate? Personally, I think it’s overplayed because it’s a good work.

Oh, and the words are:
Why did Ludwig write this awful piece?
It wasn’t free, that is for sure.
The money, all in cash came from Elise,
Thus it was she, he wrote it fur.
(dimly remembered from some book of funny classical music lyrics when I was in music school)

So, anyway, here’s my favorite youtube of all the alternate versions of Fur Elise:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fa837PCtXAQ&mode=related&search=
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#918019 - 10/22/07 08:26 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate?
bukopaudan Offline
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I think it's a very good piece but it is definitely overused/overplayed.

I, for one, never learned it. Sometimes I wish I had and sometimes I don't really mind that I did it. BUT, everyone I know that plays the piano has played the whole of Fur Elise...except me. =)

Nice topic!
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#918020 - 10/22/07 08:28 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate?
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I haven't learned it either.

I don't like hearing it because I've heard it so much. But it's a nice piece.
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#918021 - 10/22/07 08:42 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate?
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Registered: 06/05/07
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Loc: NY
I think its is a good piece because it is not very difficult to play, but it should be used as a song for piano lessons. I like the song but I agree it is over played.
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#918022 - 12/22/07 05:34 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate?
Kage Offline
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Registered: 12/22/07
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Its okay, but your right that its been played so much.
Haha, that videos rather funny

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#918023 - 12/22/07 05:39 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate?
playadom Offline
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Registered: 10/21/06
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Loc: New Jersey
I haven't learned it, but I've sight read it at tempo(does that count as learning it???).

I think it's very good. Mostly because I don't listen to it very often.
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#918024 - 12/22/07 06:05 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate?
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I would never learn it but when played by a pro it's a nice piece

This funky version is pretty awesome, here is another funny video of them
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uaAwQLuZuw
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#918025 - 01/08/08 09:13 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate?
Roger Ransom Offline
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I learned it many years ago and still drag it out and play it occasionally. It's certainly overplayed but I think it's fun to play and I think I do it better and more polished every time.

A very pleasant piece to play.
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#918026 - 01/21/08 05:11 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate?
pianistchik91 Offline
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Registered: 01/14/08
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Loc: Colorado
I learned it cuz practically every1 in my small town knows it, so I figured i'd learn it, but yes! it is very overused!! \:D
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#918027 - 01/30/08 11:59 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate?
classik51 Offline
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Registered: 12/24/07
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Loc: Canada
My very first post in this forum!

Pretty much everyone is saying that it is nice but overplayed. Me? I vaguely remember being able to remember the time when I liked it.

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#918028 - 02/02/08 12:50 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate?
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 Quote:
Originally posted by Roger Ransom:
I learned it many years ago and still drag it out and play it occasionally. It's certainly overplayed but I think it's fun to play and I think I do it better and more polished every time.

A very pleasant piece to play. [/b]
I also learned it many years ago. :rolleyes:
In my piano-wilderness years, (approx. 25yrs.), It was the only piece that I had fully memorised.
If a piano was handy i'd play it. \:o

Now I sometimes play it as a little warm-up, as I can play it without thinking about it.
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#918029 - 03/01/08 12:11 AM Re: fur elise: love/hate?
jalner Offline
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Registered: 02/28/08
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I like it a lot! Just the fact that we still hear it today means its a very beautiful piece.
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#918030 - 03/15/08 02:42 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate?
analogdino Offline
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Registered: 02/09/08
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Loc: Thornhill, Ontario, Canada
I heard a while back that sales persons in piano stores hate it like the plague... it gets to them avery time a would-be pianist starts "di, di, di, di, diddy, dah" (fill in the tune!)
Actually, I sometimes play it for practice, even for fun, but would never play it "in public".
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#918031 - 03/21/08 11:45 AM Re: fur elise: love/hate?
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Registered: 01/28/08
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I think it's a wonderful song. I'm learning it right now and while I agree that it is one of the more popular tunes out there, I don't think that should negatively reflect on it.

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#918032 - 03/27/08 02:02 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate?
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Registered: 01/12/07
Posts: 788
Loc: Massapequa, NY
Love it, at times I want to play it in different octaves to amuse myself...
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#918033 - 03/28/08 10:27 AM Re: fur elise: love/hate?
ZPomeroy Offline
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Registered: 08/13/07
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Loc: australia
hate it so much its not funny, everyone at my school no matter if they play piano or not cam play that song, it drives me insane! lol

Zac
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#918034 - 03/28/08 10:40 AM Re: fur elise: love/hate?
cruiser Offline
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Registered: 02/19/07
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Loc: Cornwall, England
Für Elise is a wonderful, moving, challenging, 'easy' piece of classical piano music which, as evidenced by some of the posts here, has become a victim of its own popularity. In common with many others, it was the first 'real' piece I learned and memorised as a child almost 50 years ago and I've recently revived it... bravo Beethoven! \:\)

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#918035 - 04/13/08 10:58 AM Re: fur elise: love/hate?
pianoman3849 Offline
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Registered: 03/03/08
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Fur Elise is a nice song but it is definitely overplayed and overused... very nice song for someone taking lessons because it is 'easy' in a sense but you need to have a feel for the style to make it really sound good.
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#918036 - 05/22/08 08:00 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate?
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Posts: 22
Loc: Indiana
 Quote:
Originally posted by sweet_melody:
I think it's a very good piece but it is definitely overused/overplayed.

I, for one, never learned it. Sometimes I wish I had and sometimes I don't really mind that I did it. BUT, everyone I know that plays the piano has played the whole of Fur Elise...except me. =)
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I agree. I also have never learned it and don't really plan on it.
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#918037 - 05/22/08 08:16 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate?
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Registered: 03/19/08
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Loc: New Jersey
When I learned it, I loved it. Now, I've heard it too many times. I can't listen to it and I can't even bring myself to play it.

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#918038 - 05/23/08 03:24 AM Re: fur elise: love/hate?
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Registered: 09/21/07
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Loc: Doncaster
I have to like it because it's Beethoven, but I would not worry if I never heard the piece again in my life.
I'm afraid it has come, along with other pieces, to represent "classical" music to the masses, maybe because of it's apparent (?) simplicity and perhaps the mere fact that it has a title. Would it be as popular I wonder if it were known as Bagatelle in A minor?
Just to go off on a slight tangent, there are 2 Mozart works which I find I can no longer listen to with any degree of pleasure; Piano Concerto 21, which now seems destined to be referred to until the end of time as "The Elvira Madigan " concerto and there are people out there who firmly believe that the title was given by the composer!!
Eine kleine etc. is the other work, thanks to the universal mis-translation of the title. "Kleine" means small and "nachtmusik" is the German word for serenade, therefore, "A Small Serenade". I'm afraid that "A little night music only serves to remind me of the pretentious Sondheim and his overblown "tunes".
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#918039 - 05/30/08 10:34 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate?
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Registered: 03/24/08
Posts: 244
Loc: Australia
Ha ha, I was going to say hate, but that youtube video totally made me grin.

When played by a virtuoso it's beautiful, but being thumped out by every tom dick and harry it makes me wanna pull my hair out.

Love the vid though, that's tops!
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#918040 - 06/10/08 01:36 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate?
Mark Purney Offline
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Registered: 08/22/06
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Loc: Mesa, AZ
Hate it. Never want to hear it again. Any TV show or movie that has a kid performing at a recital, it's almost always the piece they have the kid playing. Make it go away.
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#918041 - 06/21/08 04:53 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate?
amylee Offline
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Registered: 02/12/08
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Loc: Augusta, GA
I am a digital piano salesperson, and I have to say Fur Elise is the most common piece played by customers in the store where I work. At first, I liked it, but now I am developing a nervous tic when I hear the opening strains of the thing! If anyone could play the whole thing, it would be less annoying. But most people play the first phrase OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER again...well, you get the idea. I never knew how many ways you can play that melody wrong!!! pLEASE HELP ME!!

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#918042 - 06/29/08 11:56 AM Re: fur elise: love/hate?
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Registered: 08/13/05
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Loc: Philippines
never learned it. i don't think i ever will. my teachers (past and recent) never assigned me the piece. i also think it's overplayed. but i have sight read it.

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#918043 - 07/09/08 04:47 AM Re: fur elise: love/hate?
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Registered: 07/08/08
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Loc: Nottingham
Love it, I think it's great! Some pieces just never get boring!
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#918044 - 08/04/08 10:29 AM Re: fur elise: love/hate?
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Registered: 09/02/07
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I agree with TheBritishPianist. It's gorgeous & melodic...

How can a classical piece be overplayed? Not like it plays on the radio or that you hear it being blasted by cars passing by.
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#918045 - 08/04/08 11:58 AM Re: fur elise: love/hate?
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It's overplayed because it's so good (but also very easy).

I see that that poem goes along with the piece. Read it whilst humming the tune in your head or listening to it.

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#918046 - 08/12/08 01:45 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate?
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Well I remember learning Fur Elise when I was 10, I have to say I did enjoy learning the piece, it is a brilliant simple piece sampling the genius of Beethoven, but as the years passed I began to dislike it and stopped playing it after hearing it from other people so many times. Now I cringe whenever I hear it being played hehe :p
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#918047 - 09/02/08 05:30 PM Re: fur elise: love/hate?
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Fur Elise WAS my favorite piece to play as a child. But having taught piano for over 20 years I've heard it murdered so many times by beginning students that I've grown to despise it. (Sorry Beethoven.)
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