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#918914 - 12/03/04 11:24 AM
Swearing!
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Registered: 04/23/04
Posts: 1402
Loc: U.K.
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Or cursing as you lot call it. Opinions? I can't stand hearing people swear in the street, especially kids. Now I LOVE swearing. I swear a lot at home and with people I know won't be offended. It's part of how I express myself and I think certain words deserve a lot of credit for a: the multiplicity of situations in which they are appropriate e.g. sudden physical pain etc and b: the pure sound they make when uttered regardless of their meaning. Having said all this, because of my upbringing I would never dream of inflicting my industrial language on any unsuspecting member of the GP. Any thoughts? And no ***!!$& in the replies please. 
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#918919 - 12/03/04 11:57 AM
Re: Swearing!
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Registered: 09/15/03
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Loc: Maryland
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Maybe swear words are prayers for atheists? :D And while the Christians clasp their hands, we have a somewhat different gesture... 
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#918921 - 12/03/04 12:01 PM
Re: Swearing!
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I don't know if I'd call it guilt. It's more a case of sticking to the principle of a place for everything and everything in it's place I guess. :rolleyes:
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#918922 - 12/03/04 12:12 PM
Re: Swearing!
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Registered: 12/31/03
Posts: 408
Loc: Australia
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I don't understand why swear words are considered offensive.
Why is the "S-word" offensive, but the words "spit", "skit", "shot" and "shut" are not? And "faeces" is not?
It makes no sense to me.
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#918923 - 12/03/04 12:14 PM
Re: Swearing!
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Maybe it's 'cause you're in Australia? Here in America we still suffer hang-ups over stupid sh...err...stuff.
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#918924 - 12/03/04 12:15 PM
Re: Swearing!
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Registered: 10/04/03
Posts: 2804
Loc: New Jersey
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While working as a pilot I spent 3 days flying with a man who used a certain profanity on a regular basis. After that trip I quit swearing, I find it very demeaning.
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#918925 - 12/03/04 12:20 PM
Re: Swearing!
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Registered: 12/15/03
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Originally posted by kenny:  There are times when *no* other word will express the strength of what you feel. [/b] Yes, like every other sentence for me.
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#918926 - 12/03/04 12:24 PM
Re: Swearing!
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Registered: 12/31/03
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Originally posted by Eusebius:  Maybe it's 'cause you're in Australia? Here in America we still suffer hang-ups over stupid sh...err...stuff. [/b] No, it isn't that. Swearing is considered offensive by many Australians, and almost everyone knows it's inappropriate in certain situations.
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#918927 - 12/03/04 12:25 PM
Re: Swearing!
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Originally posted by Eusebius:  Maybe it's 'cause you're in Australia? Here in America we still suffer hang-ups over stupid sh...err...stuff. [/b] Definitely a cultural thing, I've used the F word three times a minute since I was a kid. I've talked that way in front of my Mother since I was 17 or so. I've used the word in front of Commissioners at work. It's just a matter of knowing whether someone would be offended. Few people I know are. It's part of the idiom where I come from.
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#918928 - 12/03/04 12:33 PM
Re: Swearing!
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CJQ: Definitely a cultural thing, I've used the F word three times a minute since I was a kid. I've talked that way in front of my Mother since I was 17 or so. I've used the word in front of Commissioners at work. It's just a matter of knowing weather someone would be offended. Few people I know are. It's part of the idiom where I come from. Right! I'm on the next flight over. 
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#918931 - 12/03/04 03:14 PM
Re: Swearing!
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Depends on the person I suppose. When I was a kid our next door neighbour was a London Cockney. He cursed and swore all the time. Didn't matter what he said or who was present. It was how he swore that made all the difference. He made swearing his art of communication.
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#918932 - 12/03/04 03:37 PM
Re: Swearing!
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Loc: U.K.
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Renauda, if he was a cockney couldn't we safely assume he was from London? P.S. Sounds like my partner's Dad btw. :rolleyes:
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#918933 - 12/03/04 04:09 PM
Re: Swearing!
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Posts: 1192
Loc: Scotland
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I don't like swearing one bit.  (or smoking, but this is the only graemlin I could find  )
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#918935 - 12/03/04 04:26 PM
Re: Swearing!
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Originally posted by ycul:  Right! I'm on the next flight over.  [/b] OK, hun, I'm always ready to learn some new 'swears'... (BTW, I use "English" swears too. I'm particularly fond of the "W--ker" word..) 
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#918936 - 12/03/04 04:29 PM
Re: Swearing!
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Originally posted by Improviso: Originally posted by CJQ:  It's part of the idiom where I come from. [/b] Aaaaaaa... forgit abot it....  [/b] Go ahead,I can take it 
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#918937 - 12/03/04 08:40 PM
Re: Swearing!
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Originally posted by ycul:  Renauda, if he was a cockney couldn't we safely assume he was from London? [/b] ;) 'at's b'tween you 'an me luv. i' t'was fo' ben'fit o'f 'thers 'ere.  Apples 'n pears goes up the stairs....
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#918938 - 12/03/04 10:00 PM
Re: Swearing!
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Registered: 09/15/04
Posts: 969
Loc: Tillamook, Oregon
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IMHO, swearing indicates one or both of the following: 1. Below-average intelligence 2. An inadequate vocabulary Perhaps those who cannot find a better form of expression should spend some time consulting a thesaurus. 
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#918939 - 12/03/04 10:24 PM
Re: Swearing!
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Loc: New York
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I don't know if I'd go that far Jerry. You can't use other words in all situations to convey certain emotions. The calculated use of curse words may in fact be an example of higher intelligence.
Of course if you simply swear every other word, the effectiveness is lost. But when someone who never swears lets one fly...everybody tunes in.
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#918941 - 12/04/04 07:20 AM
Re: Swearing!
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Registered: 08/13/01
Posts: 6467
Loc: Phoenix, AZ
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Originally posted by Christopher James Quinn: Originally posted by ycul:  Right! I'm on the next flight over.  [/b] OK, hun, I'm always ready to learn some new 'swears'... (BTW, I use "English" swears too. I'm particularly fond of the "W--ker" word..)  [/b] Yes, a personal favorite. Why is it that curses and phrases from other cultures are so great? 
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#918944 - 12/04/04 08:26 AM
Re: Swearing!
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Registered: 03/18/04
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Loc: Stresa, Italy
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I've always wondered why swear words are almost always the first words we learn of a foreign language......
I don't swear much because I just find it not very nice, however, every know and again, these are the only appropriate words in certain situations. Recently I've had to refrain from using a few in another forum here!
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#918945 - 12/04/04 11:31 AM
Re: Swearing!
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Because they often consist of one syllable and are emphasized in speech. In otherwords, they are easily heard and stand out in a sentence.
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#918946 - 12/05/04 12:51 PM
Re: Swearing!
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Registered: 05/19/04
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Loc: idaho
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I agree with the principle "everything in its place". At home and can say what I ________(you decide) please. I'm sure many in my profession would be appalled if they heard me, but oh, well. It's my home! But in public, it's not polite and I'm big on manners. My husband and I are always saying "ok - no swearing and the first one who does gets a sock in the arm " NEver works - bruised arms. 
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#918947 - 12/06/04 11:42 AM
Re: Swearing!
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Registered: 10/18/04
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Loc: Bristol, England
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I think swearing is unnecessarily uncouth and rude and there is always a different word.
I can always manage to use other words in my vocabulary that aren't offensive to others.
However, saying that, I agree with Nina - I too do not swear a lot, so when/if I do it is very effective.
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#918948 - 12/06/04 12:55 PM
Re: Swearing!
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Registered: 08/13/01
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Loc: Phoenix, AZ
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Originally posted by Cindysphinx:  Oh, and if you have kids and swear at all in front of them (or expose them to media with lots of swearing), they will eventually accidently let one fly in front of a teacher or parish priest or -- gasp! -- another parent! [/b] Yes... and there is nothing, I repeat nothing tackier IMO than hearing a little kid use bad language. I don't let my kids say "butthead," much less the real stuff.
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#918951 - 12/06/04 04:21 PM
Re: Swearing!
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Registered: 01/21/04
Posts: 1157
Loc: NY
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As I'm sure many of you know, George Carlin has a notable opinion on this subject. I agree about the effectiveness of an occasional swear word in the right situation. At the same time, growing up in the streets of Brooklyn achieved its indelible programming. If I'm with a certain kind of crowd, especially in a setting like a football stadium or a sports bar, the spigot opens and the blue words flow all too effortlessly. And it feels so good! 
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#918952 - 12/06/04 07:16 PM
Re: Swearing!
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Loc: Plainfield, IL
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Originally posted by Jerry Luke:  Perhaps those who cannot find a better form of expression should spend some time consulting a thesaurus.[/b] Who the f**k needs a g**-***ned thesaurus? My vocabulary isn't just a bunch of s**t, you know! Sorry, couldn't resist!  :p  :p (As my grandmother used to say, "I can make  sailors[/b] blush!")
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#918953 - 12/06/04 10:00 PM
Re: Swearing!
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Loc: Tillamook, Oregon
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I whipped out my handy thesaurus and did a quick, G-rated translation of Matt G's statement: Who the  heck[/b] needs a  darned[/b] thesaurus? My vocabulary isn't just a bunch of  junk[/b], you know! 
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