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#920977 - 09/19/03 10:09 AM Re: new york city in october
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The last I heard about this, your visit to Faust Harrison was going to be at 3 PM, but this no longer seems possible. If you want to change the time to 3:30, that's fine with us. But please confirm - either by phone or right here. I look forward to meeting you.

Irving [/b]
Irving,

Thank you (belatedly) for the welcome. I look forward to visiting Faust Harrison on the 18th.

You're correct. We are confirmed for 3:00 on the 18th.

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#920978 - 09/19/03 10:25 AM Re: new york city in october
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we were planning on excluding piano piano before that first post by bvh ever happened. two of us who are on the piano crawl have had bad experiences with them. i was boycotting them long before anything happened on this forum. if you look back to earlier posts, you'll see that, and also that i said if others wished to go there, i have no objection but i won't be joining you.

irving, the appointments with you and beethoven's were evidently made before we added a&c pianocraft to the itinerary. since they are several blocks away, and i hear they have a lot of interesting, nice pianos to look at, we may want to take our full hour there. if so, we may be late to beethoven's by ten minutes or so, and hence, a bit late to our 3 pm date with you.

but if you can be a bit flexible with us on our exact time of arrival, i think we can leave the schedule as it is. if that will cause any inconvenience, then perhaps we should make it 3:30 to be certain we'll be on time.

would people now list their first picks for restaurants? phlebas, since you are so familiar with the gastronomic possibilities of the neighborhood, perhaps we should give greater weight to your recommendation?

my personal requirements as to a restaurant:
good food
friendly service
peaceful, pleasant atmosphere
can take a reservation and seat a large group together
cheaply or moderately priced

i don't think my requirements are too demanding as i know lots of restaurants in that neighborhood meet them. thai, chinese, italian, indian, ethiopian, cuban... makes little difference to me, the cuisine.

oh, i just remembered another favorite restaurant of mine that again, i don't remember the name of. it is japanese, on either 56th or 55th street, in the middle of the block between 8th and 9th aves, on the south side of the street and upstairs. they have a japanese "room" on a raised platform in front of the windows where you sit on mats at a low table. a very intimate, friendly space, good for parties, and great food.

again, i don't know if it is still there.
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#920979 - 09/19/03 10:38 AM Re: new york city in october
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irving,
the friday night concert sounds absolutely wonderful and i am looking forward to it.

do i need to call the showroom to make a reservation or can i do it right here? i would be bringing a friend, so there are two of us.

thank you so much for your gracious welcome and making this concert available to us.
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#920980 - 09/19/03 11:42 AM Re: new york city in october
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would people now list their first picks for restaurants? phlebas, since you are so familiar with the gastronomic possibilities of the neighborhood, perhaps we should give greater weight to your recommendation?

[/b]
Hey, leave my weight out of it! ;\)

Actually, these days I rarely dine in that neighborhood.
My vote would be for Bella's, because I'm afraid that someone joining us might not be thrilled about a specific ethnic alternative. If I'm wrong, and everyone likes Indian or Thai, that's fine with me too.
Let's decide and get a reservation.

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#920981 - 09/19/03 12:40 PM Re: new york city in october
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i'm a second vote for bella's. i love thai food and wouldn't ordinarily pass up any opportunity to have it (no good thai food where i live), but bella's has a wonderful ambience, great service, very good food reasonably priced (for nyc), they serve wine, they take reservations.... and it is conveniently located. and phlebas' point is well taken, that if anyone has trouble with spicy food or strange cuisines, they won't have a problem finding something to eat at bella's.

just in case any of the above has changed since i was last there, if anyone is in the neighborhood in the near future, why not check out bella's (northwest corner of 56th and 9th) and report back here on your observations?
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#920982 - 09/19/03 02:27 PM Re: new york city in october
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Thanks, Pique, et al. for re-stating the schedule of piano store visits.

I'm pretty happy with whatever restaurant everyone wants to go to. By mentioning all those restaurants, I didn't want to make things difficult. Pique, is the Thai place you're referring to the one that was mentioned earlier -- Bangkok Cuisine? That's on 8th/53rd, not 56th though. It seems to be widely recommended.
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#920983 - 09/19/03 05:49 PM Re: new york city in october
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Although I just said I'd be happy with the group consensus on a type of restaurant, and that's true, I do want to state a preference for Thai -- Italian is wonderful; just so ubiquitous. ;\)
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#920984 - 09/19/03 08:33 PM Re: new york city in october
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well, is there anyone who doesn't like thai? i love thai food, too. and the name bangkok cuisine does ring a bell. is it on eighth avenue in the 50s? that's all i remember about the place i've been to.

does it have a nice dining room and a liquor license? (of course i guess we can always bring our own wine if it doesn't). what i would like to avoid is one of those tiny places that have pinheads for tables. it would be awkward to seat a large group in that kind of place.

if it is the place i remember, it was a very nice space to socialize in.

has anyone been there recently? will any of you be in the neighborhood in the near future and could perhaps check it out?
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#920985 - 09/19/03 10:38 PM Re: new york city in october
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Pique,

I don't get up to that neighborhood often, but I'll ask my friend about noise there and the size of the place (Bangkok Cuisine). I can call the restaurant directly to see if they take reservations and have a liquor license.
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#920986 - 09/20/03 01:03 AM Re: new york city in october
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thanks, realplayer!
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#920987 - 09/20/03 12:54 PM Re: new york city in october
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Love Thai food here....hey do they have drunken noodles on the menu? \:D
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#920988 - 09/20/03 03:12 PM Re: new york city in october
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Info on Bangkok Thai from my friend:

>1) Are they large enough to accommodate a group of 20? Is the dining room comfortable?

Dining room medium-large and comfortable, by NY Thai standards. They probably can do 20.

>2) Is the place noisy such that it's difficult to hear yourself or friends?

No.

>3) Do you recall if they serve liquor?

Yes. Singha, and hard likker too.

>4) Do they take reservations?

I think so.

You should just stop by when coming uptown and give it a visual. It is bigger than many Thai places. There are 2 other largish Thai restaurants on 8th Ave that you could look at too.
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#920989 - 09/21/03 01:10 AM Re: new york city in october
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I'm thinking it's time I put in an appearance at a Piano World Forums meeting.
But... now that this thread is on it's 6th page, I'm not sure what the agenda is.

If I come to NY the 17th, who am I meeting, where (I usually stay at the Renaissance in Times Square)?
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#920990 - 09/21/03 02:00 AM Re: new york city in october
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i don't blame you for wanting to be spared reading the whole thread.

if you come into town on the 17th, you can join a few of us who are planning to attend a concert at faust-harrison that evening.

dr. laul, the owner of estonia, will be giving a lecture concert and there will be other performers on various pianos, including eubie blake.

then, on the 18th, at 1 pm, we are all meeting at a&c pianocraft (not sure of the address--anyone?). from there we move on to beethoven pianos, faust harrison, and klavier haus, all on west 58th street. we have appointments with each dealer, about an hour apart.

at around 5:30 or 6, we're headed off to dinner at a highly recommended thai restaurant in the neighborhood. (at least, that seems where people are leaning--we haven't had any thai detractors so far).

it is still to be determined if we are going to also go to the beaux arts trio concert that evening at the met museum of art.

please put your preferences in to the mix, frank, so they can be taken into account. thai or no? concert? or hang out longer at piano dealers and linger over dinner?
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#920991 - 09/21/03 09:09 AM Re: new york city in october
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In case I did not mention this before, and just for the record, I like Thai, and most other ethnic foods.

As an aside, S&S was having a sale yesterday that I went to. Played some lovely Steinways - and actually a very nice Essex grand that sounded nice and bright and had a wonderful action (who knew?).

As a comparison, I went over to Beethoven's and Faust Harrison to try some others. I want to get a grand, and my wide says we don't have room (I'm just starting to win that argument). The two pianos that really stood out were 1) M&H 52" vertical (sorry, too lazy to look up model numbers), and the Estonia 6'2", which to me sounded and felt better that the S&S equivalent at less than half the price. (Pique, is that the one you have?)

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#920992 - 09/21/03 01:00 PM Re: new york city in october
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i have a 6'4" grotrian-steinweg i bought from beethoven pianos. did you see any grotrians there? i spoke to carl (beethoven's owner) yesterday and he says he has three being shipped to him directly from the factory in germany that should be in his showroom and prepped by october 18th.

he was apparently unaware of our visit. perhaps whoever made our appointment with beethoven's spoke to someone other than carl? anyway, i told him we'd be there around 2 pm on the 18th and who we are and he's very glad to have us.
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#920993 - 09/21/03 03:07 PM Re: new york city in october
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Beethoven's is taken care of.
I talked to Chris Pfund at Beethoven Pianos, and he said they would love to have us on the 18th at any of the remaining time slots - 1, 2, or 3:30. They are open until 7:30 on Sat.

Also, Chris indicated that they will start selling Grotrians, and should have a few in by the 18th. [/b]
Pique,

This is my post form a while back. I shoudl probably confirm, then. I saw one fairly old Grotrian Steinweg. Didn't do anything for me - probably because it was fairly small - and it was pretty expensive.

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#920994 - 09/21/03 04:28 PM Re: new york city in october
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Originally posted by piqu:
i don't blame you for wanting to be spared reading the whole thread.

if you come into town on the 17th, you can join a few of us who are planning to attend a concert at faust-harrison that evening.

dr. laul, the owner of estonia, will be giving a lecture concert and there will be other performers on various pianos, including eubie blake.

then, on the 18th, at 1 pm, we are all meeting at a&c pianocraft (not sure of the address--anyone?). from there we move on to beethoven pianos, faust harrison, and klavier haus, all on west 58th street. we have appointments with each dealer, about an hour apart.

at around 5:30 or 6, we're headed off to dinner at a highly recommended thai restaurant in the neighborhood. (at least, that seems where people are leaning--we haven't had any thai detractors so far).

it is still to be determined if we are going to also go to the beaux arts trio concert that evening at the met museum of art.

please put your preferences in to the mix, frank, so they can be taken into account. thai or no? concert? or hang out longer at piano dealers and linger over dinner? [/b]
I've never tried thai, but I'm game. I'll eat almost anything, about the only exceptions are raw fish and really spicey food.

I'll probably pass on the concert Sat., I'd rather go someplace we could sit around sipping cocktails and listening to a good jazz pianist, but that's just me.

I'm not 100% sure I can make it, but I'm sure going to try. BTW, I plan on brining a digital camera, I hope others will too. We need pictures!
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#920995 - 09/21/03 10:22 PM Re: new york city in october
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I could live on Thai food so you can count me in for Thai.

Frank, any good Thai restaurant will allow you to specify mild, medium or hot.
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#920996 - 09/21/03 10:30 PM Re: new york city in october
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I apologize if this has already been asked and answered, but where would there be "reasonable" accommodations for the nights of the 17th/18th, price and location convenient to Faust-Harrison and the piano crawl?

Mulling it over...
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#920997 - 09/21/03 10:51 PM Re: new york city in october
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there is actually a howard johnson's on 57th between 9th and 10th (or used to be). it is reasonable, but not beautiful.

irving, what is the name of the hotel that is on the north side of 58th right in your block? i can't find the brochure i saved from it. it looked nice. do you know if it is?

frank, thai can be very spicy, but at most thai restaurants you can ask them to make it mild, or order something that isn't spicy. many of the dishes are made with a red, yellow, or green curry sauce, and i imagine you could ask them to not use the sauce.
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#920998 - 09/22/03 01:32 PM Re: new york city in october
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Hi, Everyone:

If A&C is more than a block or two from Beethoven's, Faust Harrison, and Klavierhaus, then I'll skip A&C and just meet up with everyone at Beethoven's.

As far as restaurants, I'm fine with either Italian or Thai. My limitations involve proximity and accessability. I am unable to walk very far or to climb stairs. Not familiar with the city - are any of the candidate restaurants close to the dealers?

Does anyone have info on ticket prices for Beaux Art Trio?

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#920999 - 09/22/03 03:40 PM Re: new york city in october
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Hi, Everyone:

If A&C is more than a block or two from Beethoven's, Faust Harrison, and Klavierhaus, then I'll skip A&C and just meet up with everyone at Beethoven's.

As far as restaurants, I'm fine with either Italian or Thai. My limitations involve proximity and accessability. I am unable to walk very far or to climb stairs. Not familiar with the city - are any of the candidate restaurants close to the dealers?

Does anyone have info on ticket prices for Beaux Art Trio?

Thanks . . . Linda [/b]
Linda, I would hate to have you miss out on A&C. If you want, I'll cab with you from there to Beethoven's.

Speaking of Beethoven's, I just got off the phone with Chris there and confirmed 2:00 on the 18th.
He is not sure he will have any Grotrians that day. They had two, but he said they were sold already.

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#921000 - 09/22/03 07:44 PM Re: new york city in october
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Linda, I would hate to have you miss out on A&C. If you want, I'll cab with you from there to Beethoven's. [/b]
Phlebas, that is very kind of you - I will take you up on the offer. I have not been to A&C, so it would be nice to visit. Thank you! [/b]

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...He is not sure he will have any Grotrians that day. They had two, but he said they were sold already. [/b]
WOW - Bad for us, but good for Beethoven's! Perhaps Chris can share information about PianoWorld and our upcoming visit with the new owners. Maybe one of the new Grotrian owners would even be willing to postpone delivery until after our soire? Nah, who am I kidding. Still, it's nice to see a dealer get off to a good start with a new line.

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#921001 - 09/22/03 11:08 PM Re: new york city in october
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the owner of beethoven's told me there is a fresh shipment of three new grotrians leaving germany this week, and he thinks it is very likely they'll be in the store by the time of our visit.
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#921002 - 09/23/03 07:11 PM Re: new york city in october
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there is actually a howard johnson's on 57th between 9th and 10th (or used to be). it is reasonable, but not beautiful.[/b]
It's a "used to be." It's now some sort of fancy "Italian Grille." (Actually, it was on 8th a bit lower down, near Times Square. Unless you are talking about someplace completely different.)



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#921003 - 09/23/03 08:08 PM Re: new york city in october
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[QUOTE] ... (They have a real hottie cashier!) [/b]
OK, forget the piano crawl. I'm bypassing NYC for CT!
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#921004 - 09/23/03 09:29 PM Re: new york city in october
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Oh, no! Stop in for the piano crawl. I posted a link earlier for a web site with some ideas: Best Hotel Bets

Also, this site has some ideas (The Pickwick Arms, Bently, and Inter-Continental Barclay are not too far from where the crawl will happen): Favorite Hotels (Anything on the link "Midtown West" over on the left will be pretty close to the crawl too.
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#921005 - 09/23/03 10:04 PM Re: new york city in october
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I come to NYC every November & have stayed at the Bentley for the past two years. It's quite restful.
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#921006 - 09/23/03 10:15 PM Re: new york city in october
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this isn't a restaurant, tom, it's a hotel.

maybe it's a day's inn? it's on the south side of 57th between 9th and tenth. i'm not recommending it, but it is close, and reasonably priced for new york.
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