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#937876 - 11/12/07 10:29 PM another 3 against 2 question
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Hey I'm wanting to make sure I have triplets against eight notes correct, because I realied I had previously been doing it wrong. (I was playing sixteenths against eights)

Suppose I'm playing the triplets in the right hand and the eighths in the left, would the pattern be:
Together right left right together right etc...

Suppose I was playing sixteenth note triplets in the right hand against eighth notes in the left. What would this hand pattern be then? Also, what is it called when you play sixteenth note triplets against eighth notes?
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#937877 - 11/12/07 10:47 PM Re: another 3 against 2 question
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You are correct for your first question. Usually what I tell my students is to say "not difficult" as they tap the rhythm.

For your second question, remember that a triplet means that you need to fit 3 of those notes into the time two of those notes would take. In the example of eighth note triplets, you need to fit 3 eighths into the span of 2 eighths (or 1 beat in 4/4 time). So in your example, you are trying to fit 3 sixteenths in the span of 2 sixteenths (or 1 eighth). That means you'd fit those 3 sixteenths in the RH all onto one eighth in the left. As far as what you call it, I don't know if there's a name for it, as it is actually less complicated than the 3 vs 2 issue. This is 3 vs 1 \:\)
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#937878 - 11/13/07 03:16 AM Re: another 3 against 2 question
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Those triplets simply mean a boost (speeding up) in tempo within the established beat.

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#937879 - 11/13/07 09:41 AM Re: another 3 against 2 question
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Thank you everyone for your advice.

btb, I think I understand what you are saying.

I have a piece that contains a big desecending scale run in the right hand and aaginst broken arpeggios in eighths in the left.
The descending scale starts in triplets but end up in the sixteenth note triplets. Are you saying the sixteenth note triplets the right hand is just playing twice as fast, and the left plays the same.

If so, then that makes sense
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#937880 - 11/13/07 11:58 PM Re: another 3 against 2 question
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"Speeding up" gets over the halting action of asking the mind to instantly digest (more likely vomit) ... the tempo boost of squeezing 3 notes into what was previously the space of 2.

Strictly speaking the tempo boost is a 1.5 ratio
(3/2)... the concept of "speeding up" gets over the mental block of haltingly trying to get fingers to execute an exact mathematical note-relationship.

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