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#941250 - 09/07/06 02:24 PM Re: low hand position and flat fingers?
mikegnik Offline
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Registered: 09/06/06
Posts: 4
Loc: South Jersey
 Quote:
Originally posted by CC2 and Chopin lover:
Hi Sandy,
Basic anatomy and kinesiology are behind what you're saying about the flat hand and finger positions versus the "ball in hand" curved positions, and explain the difference in stresses at the fingers and wrists. When you curve the fingers, the wrist naturally pulls into a flexed position as well. This will then crimp, and restrict movement of, the tendons of the wrist and finger flexor muscles located in the forearm that control the downward pull of those structures. [/b]
I had a little trouble reconciling the conflicting information on the different hand postures, but do appreciate the wealth of knowledge and experience being shared.

The above states that the wrist naturally pulls into a flexed position. It seems to me the wrist is free to sit where it wishes, high, low or in between, regardless of the shape of the hand. Am I missing something?

I have learned with curved fingers and teach this way, and am interested in analyzing the different approaches, both to understand varying students/physiques and for my own playing.

Secondly, with flat fingers.... is shifting not hindered smoothly as suggested in an above post (re: not being able to play a scale evenly at faster tempi)

Thirdly, does anyone know of any "exercise" that can help a young student build the necessary finger strength to maintain the curved finger shape? (assuming this post has not thusly rendered this approach invalid ;\) )

Kind regards,

Mike
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#941251 - 09/07/06 06:27 PM Re: low hand position and flat fingers?
swingal Offline
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Registered: 07/31/05
Posts: 1094
Loc: England
I may have missed it but I cannot see any reference to the arm position and I always have to have my arm down at an angle towards the keys. Otherwise you are sitting at the piano like a child might or as a dog begs, with the hands almost curving at the wrists to reach the keys.

I remember past topics/posts on the matter of arm height (elbow) angle, relative to the hands. That is also a relative to the height of the bench to the key tops.

People complain about wrist pain after long playing sessions but I never get it. I would rather play standing up than struggle to sit too low if that's the option. I can recall a friend of mine who is about 6" shorter than I'm, yet she sits on a bench that is at least 6" too low for me!

Anyone else had this experience?

Alan

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