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#942607 - 01/15/05 06:30 PM What do teachers think of digital vs. acoustic
DavidPJ Offline
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Just when I thought I made my mind up for a digital piano for my 5 year old daughter, another teacher we visited advised against the digital piano. It seems like every piano teacher we speak to, other than young instructors with only 5 or so years teaching experience, always strongly recommend the acoustic.

So I thought I would ask the teachers on this forum what they thought of a 5 year old learning on a Yamaha CLP-170 vs something like a low-end new Yamaha or Kawai acoustic upright? I'm referring to something in the $3000-$3500 price range. My intention is to have this instrument last her 5-10 years.

Thanks for your comments.

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#942608 - 01/15/05 08:05 PM Re: What do teachers think of digital vs. acoustic
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3000-3500 should be fine. I've been workin with a $150 yard sale one all my life lol and it hasn't imo hurt my playing or anything. But yes acoustic is the way to go. That way you can bring out dynamics and it has a more realistis feel.
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#942609 - 01/15/05 09:07 PM Re: What do teachers think of digital vs. acoustic
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Acoustics are better. The sound and the action make it a more visceral experience.
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#942610 - 01/15/05 10:11 PM Re: What do teachers think of digital vs. acoustic
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I feel this is a critical decision and you absolutely should buy an acoustic piano. I've been playing piano for 30 years. I've sold both types of instruments but only the acoustics with joy and conviction. PLEASE don't buy electric. It's the worst mistake you can ever make. They depreciate in value. In 10 years, you'll only get a couple of hundred bucks for it. Your children will quit earlier on an electric piano. Their technique will be sloppy. They will lose interest in the sound they create. And the acoustic piano is the most beautiful instrument in the world.

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#942611 - 01/16/05 01:36 AM Re: What do teachers think of digital vs. acoustic
animato Offline
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Hi David,

I am a teacher with about 50 or so students, and I have found electronic keyboards are good for the first two years of learning. After that, when their technique improves then they would need a weighted keyboard instrument, e.g. acoustic piano.

There is ONLY one advantage of an electronic keyboard, it is MUCH cheaper than an acoustic piano. also it is a safer option especially if its for a 5 year old kid, because alot of kids do give up because they have no interest in it after a couple of months, and if you're going to buy a piano, it would be like a good piece of furniture without ever being used.

My advice is to get the cheapest casio keyboard you can buy, and if the teacher is experienced enough, they would recognised if your kid is a natural in the first couple of weeks/months, THEN you should consider buying an acoustic piano.

Another option is renting a piano for the first year to see if your kid is interested it. Then maybe you can buy a piano after that? Just dont spend alot of money first up, because ALOT of kids DO GIVE up within the first year or so.

Hope this advice helps you.

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#942612 - 01/16/05 07:55 AM Re: What do teachers think of digital vs. acoustic
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I agree wholeheartedly with Kreisler and Candyman.

I have taught over 150 students of all ages and abilites over the past 18 years. I will not teach a student who only has access to practice on an electric keyboard.

The keyboard doesn't offer the same experience as an acoustic piano. Your child needs weighted keys and pedal. Having an eletric keyboard as a second instrument for fun is a great addition, but not as the main instrument.

I respectfully disagree with Animato. Your child should learn proper technic from the beginning, not after a couple of years.

charlene
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#942613 - 01/16/05 11:45 AM Re: What do teachers think of digital vs. acoustic
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I completely agree with the acoustic piano proponents. Once, when I had both Yamaha and Bösendorfer ~7' grands in my studio, these little students of mine would march right past that Yamaha to play the Bösendorfer. Children recognize quality at an early age. They just don't have the vocabulary to talk about it. My little students know when their pianos are out of tune, or need work. They will appreciate the respect you have both for them and for the job of learning to play. It's a win-win. You can rent, or you can buy, and pianos hold their value for a long time. (So I agree with Charlene--but have been teaching twice as long lol!)
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#942614 - 01/16/05 12:15 PM Re: What do teachers think of digital vs. acoustic
Xenon Offline
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Quality Digital Pianos nowadays do have very sophisticated hammer driver weighted actions that simulate the feel of an acoustic( albeit not 100% accurately) and have all 3 pedals( with half pedaling capabilites). The higher end digitals even have wooden keys( the CLP-170 being one of them). For a 5 year old, I think a quality digital piano would be one of the better options as the financial commitment is not huge, and a quality digital is much better than a poor acoustic IMHO( I went through the whole acoustic vs digital on a budget thing recently). Plus what you lose in depriciation will be gradually made up by the money you save on maintenence. Perhaps some of the older teachers have written off newer digital pianos without trying them based on their bad experience with older ones. Maybe not though.

Oh, btw, I'm just some piano schmuck. I'm not a teacher. I just went through a similar experience as you is all.

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#942615 - 01/16/05 01:40 PM Re: What do teachers think of digital vs. acoustic
ken070749 Offline
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I almost bought a Yamaha digital piano 7 or 8 years ago. I am so glad that I didn't, and never will. Yes, you can have weighted key action and the sampling of the best Yamaha acoustic piano's sound, however, no matter how many speakers it has, a digital piano will never make the real piano sound.

There are only two advantages I can think of when you buy a digital one:
1) it offers a interface that you can play it with your computer.
2) you don't have to test drive it when you buy, having the convenience of buying on line or through mail order.

I always believe that a good used acoustic piano will be sufficient for a young beginner's needs. But it is going to be a somewhat painful time-consuming experience if you don't have any expertise of pianos. But I know many teachers are willing to screen used pianos for their prospective students.

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#942616 - 01/16/05 03:52 PM Re: What do teachers think of digital vs. acoustic
DavidPJ Offline
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Thank you and I very much appreciate everyone's comments. My wife and I have really been strugling with this. A decision either way has its advantages and disadvantages. With the higher end digital pianos such as the Yamaha CLP-170, I wish to believe that sound quality and action are not the deciding factors for making the decision of this specific digital piano vs. a low end acoustic.

Some have said the CLP-170 will absolutely sound more like an acoustic grand piano and have better touch than a low-end new upright in the $3500 range. My Yamaha dealer said whe would much prefer playing on the CLP-170 rather than any of their used uprights, and they have several models.

So I feel it comes down to the following:

(1) The CLP-170 still isn't a "real piano", and if we can live with that stigma than so be it.

(2) Digital pianos lose value much more quickly than a good acoustic, but if resale isn't important, than it's a non-issue. However, I've seen some later model low end used uprights that nobody wants (Baldwin, Pearl River for example). And forget the spinets.

(3) My daughter will learn fine with either one. Later in life if she's serious we can spend the money for a decent new or used acoustic that isn't the bottom line model.

(4) With a digital I don't have to deal with twice a year piano tunings, and it's always in tune and always sounding its best.

(5) The CLP-170 has midi, usb, etc. and offers much more flexibility and value for learning and entertainment options. Not to mention my involvement with her with the computer and the piano.

(6) The CLP-170 has many voices, which at this point could be a deterrent to my daughter strictly learning to play the piano rather than play with the sounds as if it were a toy. Maybe there would be a way I could disable some of these extra functions.

(7) An acoustic has a feel, richness or certain authenticity that will be lacking in the CLP-170.

(8) The CLP-170 could easily be moved from her music room to our living room for family "performances".

Would you agree or disagree with my summation? (I know this is subjective because some of you may not be familiar with the CLP-170 but rather digital pianos in general).

Thanks again.
Dave

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#942617 - 01/16/05 05:55 PM Re: What do teachers think of digital vs. acoustic
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Yamaha have a Disklavier Series which is both an acoustic and an electric piano. Does anyone have any experience with these instruments.
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#942618 - 01/16/05 07:38 PM Re: What do teachers think of digital vs. acoustic
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It appears you have fallen in love with the CLP 170 despite the reasoned advice of seasoned professionals. That's why you and your wife are struggling with this decision.

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#942619 - 01/16/05 09:26 PM Re: What do teachers think of digital vs. acoustic
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I agree with Candyman that you have fallen in love with the CLP 170. In your original post you say you'd like to use this instrument for 5 - 10 years and that your daughter is 5. Does this mean that you only expect her to be able to play well enough for a digital instrument when she's 10? When she's 10 she could easily be playing simpler Chopin and Mozart--not something you'd want to do on any digital piano. (And although I've been teaching for a long time, I'm not too old to have recently played--and owned-- the more sophisticated digital instruments. They're great and all, but they are what they are: not acoustic. Not the instruments for which this music was written.) I assume you will want your daughter to play as well as she has potential to--get her the best acoustic instrument you can afford. Or else get her a less expensive digital for a few months so you can look more exhaustively. Some of my students have started on digital pianos, and somewhere in the middle of the second year we come straight to a grinding halt until they can get some kind of acoustic instrument. And it's not that I'm even remembering that they're practicing on keyboards. It becomes clear that something is holding them back; the parents get called and we hash it out and it turns out they're practicing on a digital. Happens every time. (And the better the acoustic, the better, as well. An adult student of mine, who'd been progressing as well as I thought I could expect of him, recently bought a beautiful new Grotrian and he sounds wonderful. The instrument is bringing out the best he has, musically--what a difference!)
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#942620 - 01/16/05 10:48 PM Re: What do teachers think of digital vs. acoustic
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David--

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It appears you have fallen in love with the CLP 170 despite the reasoned advice of seasoned professionals. That's why you and your wife are struggling with this decision.[/b]
Candyman is again correct.

I have taught with the Yamaha disclavier as well as on a clavinova when I was teaching adjunct with a university 4 years ago. Both do a fine job, but are not the best choices for daily practice unless the models have changed significantly in the past 4 years.

It appears that you have made your choice regarding the piano as well as what age is best appropriate to begin lessons (although that is beside the point at the moment)and you just want validation for your choices. I can't with clear conscience give you what you want.

You would be wise to listen to what seasoned teachers say regarding this as opposed to a sales rep. No one here has anything to gain by suggesting you purchase the acoustic, for what it's worth.

Good luck,

Charlene \:D
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#942621 - 01/17/05 12:35 AM Re: What do teachers think of digital vs. acoustic
animato Offline
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Hi all \:\)

I think we as teachers are all missing the point here. If finances is not an issue, then I would definately get an acoustic piano. However the child in question is only 5 YEARS OLD!

Of all the students that you have taught at 5 years old, how many have actually stay? From my experiences I have had about 10 or so 5 year olds and under, and I can only think of only two who actually are stilled with me.

The others have given up or their mind wasnt mature enough to grasped the concept of music. So i told them to come back when their 7 or 8 years old. By that time, they have lost interest in it all together.

Parents like to romanticised about their kids being the next Mozart. But not all of us have an iq of over 180. Reality is alot of 5 years old are too young to learn music.

So to suggest a parent to go out and buy an acoustic piano for a beginning student who is 5 years old in my opinion is a very risky investment.

On the other side of the coin you can say that your kid is the 2/10 five year olds who are intelligent enough to understand music at such an early age and therefore would get a better start. Sure, but then again 2/10 isnt a very high percentage.

Im not a fan of electronic keyboards either, but Im not a fan of parents wasting a lot of money on an instrument that isnt going to get used.

So David, be wise about your decision. If money isnt an issue get an acoustic, but if money is an issue then invest in a cheap electronic keyboard, and upgrade later when your child gets better \:\)

Good luck

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#942622 - 01/17/05 05:39 AM Re: What do teachers think of digital vs. acoustic
DavidPJ Offline
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Once again, thanks for your feedback. After I made my post last night I realized I favored the digital. The funny thing is that before I began writing the summation, I thought I was truly neutral. So I'm guilty as charged for favoring the digital.

I really appreciate everyone's comments and I'm considering everything that was said. Either way, I need to decide soon because my daughter already started her first piano class last week and she really loves it.

Dave

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#942623 - 01/17/05 06:01 AM Re: What do teachers think of digital vs. acoustic
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Animato--My experience with 5 year olds has been the exact opposite of yours--I've had wonderful success with them, and most of them have stayed with the instrument for many years. This is in no way a reflection on either of our teaching abilities, just different experiences--I don't mean to criticise your teaching--I have been teaching longer than you, and it's just a matter of numbers LOL! (I've been teaching twice as long as some of you have been alive!) So, let's assume that David's daughter is one of those.
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#942624 - 01/17/05 07:02 AM Re: What do teachers think of digital vs. acoustic
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I am not a piano teacher or a sales rep, but I am a piano player and a fan of digital pianos. I have played both and I love grand pianos. One advantage not mentioned is volume control and headphones.

I only post because my personal opinion is that Yamaha digital pianos have a very stiff key action and an incredibly hard bottom when you press firmly. I warn against them. I would recommend looking at Roland and Kawai pianos.

There is a night a day difference between inexpensive and more expensive digital pianos. I think you need to spend at least $2500 for one that feels like you are playing a real piano. I expect that most of the digital pianos that parents buy for children are cheap ones, unless the parent plays the piano. The comments about weighted keys not being weighted imply this. I feel that my Roland HPi-7 has a nicer keyboard action than any upright.

Associated Board of the Royal Shools of Music, the Australian Music Examination Board and Converatory Canada have all approved the use of Roland Digital pianos for examination purposes.
Perhaps they have gotten better.
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#942625 - 01/17/05 09:57 AM Re: What do teachers think of digital vs. acoustic
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I am definately not a teacher but I do have the oportunity to play several different types of acoustic and digital pianos on a regular basis (I personally have both). I have to say that some of the above ressponses are clearly uninformed to downright laughable.

Modern (less than 2 years old) high quality (no not casio keyboards for children to play with as toys) digital pianos (not portable synthesizers with synth action keyboards) are truely remarkable instruments that are as good or better than most upright pianos in terms of quality of tone and action. Their actions are remarkable, and unlike many acoustics, actually consistant.

The specific model that DavidPJ mentions is Yamaha's top of the line (current) digital that is truely a remarkable instrument, and not some 10 year old keyboard based on obsolete technology.

Go to your the local Yamaha/Roland/Kawai dealer and try their CURRENT top models. I suspect tham many of you might actually change your opinions of digitals.

Sorry for the rant and it isn't my intention to offend anyone but it just appears that many posters opinions are uninformed or out of date.

Rodney

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#942626 - 01/17/05 11:35 AM Re: What do teachers think of digital vs. acoustic
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Just here to second Rodney's post, some people's outright dismissal of digital pianos really is laughable, to be frank.
I play the piano myself to beyond Grade 8 standard, I've played most types of acoustic piano, as well as most models in the current digital ranges. These instruments aren't to be snuffed. For the budget mentioned of $3000, I have NEVER encountered an acoustic piano for this price that is as good as the digital for the same price. In my experience, being that the digital is sampled from a $100,000+ piano, combined with a reliable, consistent and responsive action, the digital wins hands down every time.

This isn't just my view, my father is a piano teacher and concert pianist, and had the same view as some of you, until a couple of years ago when I showed him what today's digitals can do. He (reluctantly... :p ) agreed with me!

I also know many other teachers/professional pianists who share a positive view on digitals.

My point is, I don't mind individuals not liking digital pianos, but it annoys me when someone asks for advice and then is mocked for his choice of a digital.

" It appears you have fallen in love with the CLP 170 despite the reasoned advice of seasoned professionals. That's why you and your wife are struggling with this decision."

Also, as Rodney said, you cannot give a useful opinion on this subject unless you have tried the latest models. I suggest you try some of:
Yamaha CLP170/175, Kawai CA-9, Roland HP107, Yamaha GT2/GT20/GT7, and then give us your opinions.
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#942627 - 01/17/05 11:41 AM Re: What do teachers think of digital vs. acoustic
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Originally posted by cranky woman:

I have taught with the Yamaha disclavier as well as on a clavinova when I was teaching adjunct with a university 4 years ago. Both do a fine job, but are not the best choices for daily practice unless the models have changed significantly in the past 4 years.
But the Yamaha Disklavier is an acoustic piano?
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#942628 - 01/17/05 01:00 PM Re: What do teachers think of digital vs. acoustic
Robert J Offline
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I worked in a music store that sold digitals and acoustic pianos. A fine piano player who owns and performs on Bosendorfer pianos bought a digital from us. His name? jazz legend Oscar Peterson.
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#942629 - 01/17/05 01:22 PM Re: What do teachers think of digital vs. acoustic
DavidPJ Offline
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It's very reassuring to read the very positive comments on current model digital pianos. I've ordered the Clarinova CLP-170 earlier today from our local Yamaha dealer.

Thanks again folks.

Dave

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#942630 - 01/17/05 01:40 PM Re: What do teachers think of digital vs. acoustic
ken070749 Offline
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I fell in love with digital pianos when I was studying a multimedia course at university 7 or 8 years ago. And I almost placed an order to buy one which I believe was one of the Yamaha CLP series costed over $3000 then.

The idea of a digital piano is to play out through 4 or more speakers a sampling of an exellent acoustic piano. Has the technology of a digital piano advanced so dramatically recent years and it can produce a true piano sound? Absolutely not. The idea remains the same. About a month ago, I happened to have the chance to play some of the digital pianos when I visited a local Yamaha store with my daugter. As long as the sound is concerned, I do not see much improvement from a few years ago. And I noticed that Yamaha has not introduced a new series besides CLP and CVP.

Digital vs acoustic is like listening to recording at home vs live performances. I believe a five year old can appreciate the difference. And one of my five year old daughter's two biggest dreams is to have a piano with a great sound. Sure not all live performances are great, so are (used) acoustic pianos. But we know how to screen them, or with the help from a piano teacher.

Are digital pianos less expensive compared to acoustic ones? They are definitely costy considering the sound quality you get. If financial issue is a concern, a used acoustic piano serves well for young beginners. With $3000, you can get a 5-6 year U1 Yamaha.

I found an article published on Keyboard Companion Magazine. It was written in 1996 but the points stand still.

http://www-personal.ksu.edu/~vhouser/keyboard.htm

More updated information can be found at:
http://www.concertpitchpiano.com/DigitalVsAcoustic.html

I hope David can read them before making his decison.

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#942631 - 01/17/05 02:36 PM Re: What do teachers think of digital vs. acoustic
Nina Offline
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 Quote:
Originally posted by DavidPJ:
It's very reassuring to read the very positive comments on current model digital pianos. I've ordered the Clarinova CLP-170 earlier today from our local Yamaha dealer.

Thanks again folks.

Dave [/b]
Good luck with it and your daughter's music! Stick around and let us know how she's doing.

Nina

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#942632 - 01/17/05 02:56 PM Re: What do teachers think of digital vs. acoustic
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Quote "Has the technology of a digital piano advanced so dramatically recent years and it can produce a true piano sound? Absolutely not."

More nonesense......

The only resonable advice is to go and try for yourself. This reminds me of the arguments between CD recording and vinal. A CD will never sound as good/warm/realistic/ as an LP (even with all that noise/pops). NONSENSE!!!

QUOTE: "As long as the sound is concerned, I do not see much improvement from a few years ago. And I noticed that Yamaha has not introduced a new series besides CLP and CVP."

CLP and CVP are the model designations for the Clavinova line of digital pianos.

CLP - Without accompinament features
CVP - With accompinament features

The difference lies in the model numbers. Yamaha recently relesed the 30x series in the CVP model lineup to the north american market. I expect that we will see some additional models in the CLP lineup soon. The improvements that you do not see are: new/larger samples, addition key-off samples, string and body resonance, new and better effects and voices, etc...

The latest high ends from Roland have new keybeds with escapement features that are a dream to play. If there could be one better it might be from Kawai but that is just a matter of taste.

BTW:

How can any article written 9 years ago be as true today as it was then (and who says it was true then). 9 years is an extremely long time in the digital world.

An informed opinion is worth ists weight in gold but an opinion based on conjecture, heresay and out of date information is just NOISE!!!

Rodney

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#942633 - 01/17/05 03:32 PM Re: What do teachers think of digital vs. acoustic
ken070749 Offline
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My previous post speaks for itself.

As I pointed our there, I played some of the digital pianos just a month ago. Some of the teachers here also said they played it before and they do not have to play it every month to keep up with the "new" technology.

As long as it uses a couple of speakers to be fitted in the digital piano to play back from a recording or a sampling, I see no breakthrough in its technology.

I pointed out the first article was published in 1996. If you do not like it, please read my second link with an UPDATED opinion. And let me quote:

--- beginning of quoted message ---
The problem with digital pianos is that they can't really duplicate the tone and touch of a real piano. Even with today's sampling technology individual notes may be quite accurately reproduced, but the tone of notes sounding together, as in an acoustic piano - with complex harmonics mixing and resonating against a flexible wooden soundboard - cannot be matched. As a result, most music sounds rather sterile played on a digital piano.

Digital pianos don't feel like real pianos. "Touch Sensitivity" and "Weighted Action" is not the same thing as the sophisticated inner mechanism, or "action", of an acoustic piano. Digital pianos merely simulate the touch of pianos. They don't provide the same feedback or responsiveness to your playing, so your performance range is limited.

If you are considering buying a piano for your child, consider this: many piano teachers will not teach students who have reached a certain level on anything other than an acoustic piano. Digital pianos are counter-productive when it comes to technique and dynamic performance. These skills cannot be practised on a digital keyboard and then applied to a real piano action. It's not the same thing. A piano also represents a stronger commitment to a student, as a opposed to a digital keyboard that may represent the same thing to a child as a computer, an electronic game-station or a CD player.

Something else to consider is that an acoustic piano will hold its value far better than a digital. An acoustic piano can last 100 years, while a digital may be obsolete in 5 years and might be hard to even give away by then.
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#942634 - 01/17/05 10:21 PM Re: What do teachers think of digital vs. acoustic
Xenon Offline
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The model in question( CLP-170) actually has microphones built in to process the outputted sound to simluate soundboard and spatial effects. Plus, it has samples for string resonance. So its not just 2 speakers spitting out simple recordings.

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#942635 - 01/18/05 02:39 AM Re: What do teachers think of digital vs. acoustic
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How many piano teachers who "will not teach" if all the student has is a digital, also will not teach if the student has a spinet? Has a cheaper upright? Has a high quality upright that has not been maintained?

I would bet there is more difference between bad and good acoustics than there is between good digitals and good acoustics.

But there's something you might not have thought of.

Bach didn't have anything remotely as good as a cheap digital. Neither did Mozart or Scarlatti. The list goes on and on. It does not seem to have hindered their music much.
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#942636 - 01/18/05 08:12 AM Re: What do teachers think of digital vs. acoustic
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ken070749,

I didn't look at your first link because of the old published date. However, I was curious to see what the update had to say, which for the most part is covered in your most recent comments.

An important point regarding the source of this article (Concert Pitch Piano Services) was that this company is not an independent or unbiased source of information. They are in the business of servicing acoustic pianos. They offer a full range of services including moving, refinishing, restoration, inspections, repair, pitch raises, and tunings.

Of course they are going to have a strong bias towards acoustic pianos. It is in their best interest to recommend acoustic pianos to continue their services business.

As I don't own any piano yet, I can't comment about the article specifically. However, I will say that this article by itself provides little value given its source.

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