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#946841 - 05/30/08 05:03 PM Re: Thoughts on Sight Reading
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Originally posted by Minaku:
"jazz font" that's impossible to read at speed. Just... *sigh* [/b]
I loathe that jazz font. Wasn't the point of using computers to write music out so that people wouldn't have to read hand-written scores, which, even when neat, are harder to read? Then why make a hand-written ... *sigh*
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#946842 - 05/30/08 05:06 PM Re: Thoughts on Sight Reading
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Originally posted by musiccr8r:
doesn't it kill you when an acapella work is condensed for a pianist's "rehearsal only" part of the score at 50% smaller font??????????????? AGHHHH [/b]
Ah, another of my pet hates. And the scary thing is that 20 years ago it didn't bother me at all. 50% smaller seems to have got 50% smaller since then ... \:\(
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#946843 - 05/30/08 07:13 PM Re: Thoughts on Sight Reading
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Originally posted by currawong:
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Originally posted by musiccr8r:
doesn't it kill you when an acapella work is condensed for a pianist's "rehearsal only" part of the score at 50% smaller font??????????????? AGHHHH [/b]
Ah, another of my pet hates. And the scary thing is that 20 years ago it didn't bother me at all. 50% smaller seems to have got 50% smaller since then ... \:\( [/b]
And then there's the other way 'round. I'm playing Sun morning and was loaned a, ahem, large print edition of the hymnal (what *were* they trying to tell me?!?) But I found the staves were so far apart I couldn't track them both at once and had to take the sheets to the copier and shrink them \:D

Sometimes you can't win for losin' !

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#946844 - 05/31/08 12:09 AM Re: Thoughts on Sight Reading
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Oh, the one time I got a blown-up hymn I was in heaven! That was when I discovered my astigmatism. However, getting glasses was no help because I can't seem to adapt to the little bit of loss of peripheral vision along the bottom of the lens when I wear them for piano playing. \:\(

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#946845 - 06/02/08 02:25 PM Re: Thoughts on Sight Reading
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Darn...I hit a wrong key and my post beamed up somewhere..please excuse if this is a repeat. (GRRRRRR!)

My sightreading adventures continue in full swing. I am really working hard at this with my goal being to become better than my new, good sightreading adult student.

I have learned a lot here in the Sightreading categories and I thank you all for your valuable help and suggestions. I have learned handy things like:

start with music that is below reading level[/b] I did. Happily, I breezed through P-1 and level 2 with no problems. Level 3 (on which I am still working) is coming along nicely and since I've read through about 30 pieces at this level, I now mix them up and reread them. Problem is, I memorize so darned fast (at least for a 57 year old antique) that almost all the pieces are now "familiar".

sightread 10-30 minutes a day[/b] Well...I have to confess that I am probably doing a couple of hours worth and my head clogs up after a while. Today, I alternate back and forth between some sightreading and shampooing the steps going to our second floor. (Now THAT'S exciting!)

Read from the bottom up.[/b] I'm happy to report that I already do this.

Make sure you are sightreading at lower than your level.[/b] MAJOR FACE SLAP. So much for my feeling smug at level 3 and moving on to level 4. I am indeed humbled because level 4 is a struggle...especially stuff that is not tonal. So, guess I'll continue hunting for level 2 and 3 materials to plow through until I feel that I might again be humbled by level 4.

match your ability from the samples from the Associated Board of the Royal School of Music. /B] I can't remember who kindly posted these short samples from levels 1-8 but they are right on!! My level 3 is good, level 4 is "wicked slow".

Try some Pischna to help sightreading[/b]
Book ordered. I also ordered "A guide to Remedial Reading for the Piano Student", used, on Amazon.com. I'm hoping that I will gain more insights. I am about as "remedial" as they come.

read 4 part harmony from a Hymnal[/b] ..Well...I don't think I'm ready for that yet...but somewhere in the deep dark recesses of my music files I DO have a hymnal. (Probably hand written by the monks in the middle ages...) :>)

And there are other guidlines that I am following as well that you all suggested. I am most grateful to you all.

I hope this post isn't too uninteresting.

Alan in RI...burning up the keys today...and the carpet shampooer...

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#946846 - 06/02/08 02:57 PM Re: Thoughts on Sight Reading
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read 4 part harmony from a Hymnal ..Well...I don't think I'm ready for that yet
Al, I modified that one. I returned to piano after 30 years and never having been taught, meaning I was in a funny place.

I combined preparatory Czery, learning scales, and the Riemenschneider edition of Bach chorals which for weird reasons came into my posession.

What I did for a couple of months was "sight read" each choral over about 6 days. Day 1 I read the soprano line separately remaining acutely aware of the bumps and valleys of piano keys and their identity, then the alto, tenor, and bass. Then I would read S & A, T & B, S & T, S & B etc. very slowly. I did that two days. Day 3 I began S & A and added the tenor, combining 3 voices. Day 5 I'd begin with the 3 and add the 4th.

So a couple of months of building this awareness, I left out the first step and began with step # 2, spent more time with 3 and 4 parts. I was also learning to interchange left and right hand for the problematic tenor.

Into month 4, I guess, I can, extremely slowly, do 4 part immediately. I was reviewing my theory (RCM) aurally, and came to the transposing homework. So there I was sight reading 4 part harmony, and then reading it (really slowly!) in open score with C clefs, or modern vocal score where the tenor is written in treble clef with that little 8va 8 dangling from the bottom (purists, forgive my lack of vocabulary).

So this is working for me.

I'm reading as a vocalist and violin student, recorder player, so I was overly "melodic minded". When I read the "bottoms up" approach I went vertical in my reading, and the choral reading took an immediate huge jump.

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#946847 - 06/02/08 04:01 PM Re: Thoughts on Sight Reading
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Registered: 04/21/07
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Loc: Rhode Island
Keystring...

That sounds like an interesting challenge and something that I just might try! Now where did I stash that hymnal?

Alan in RI

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