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#955343 - 07/30/08 08:24 AM una corda question
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When a piece begins with una corda is there a set rule for how long you play it that way? For instance, Printemps by Chopin/Liszt.
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#955344 - 07/30/08 09:04 AM Re: una corda question
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I'm not familiar with this particular piece, but generally you would use it until there is a change in the music that would require more sound. Una corda gives a particular sound to the piano, a less brilliant sound, and if there is a section that calls for more brilliance (and this can only be determined by the music itself), then you stop use of it. Rarely would you use it throughout a piece.
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#955345 - 07/30/08 10:57 AM Re: una corda question
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The Una Corda Pedal is an interesting thing...My initial answer is similar to Morodiene: Don't use it for more than a section.

What piece are you playing?

Are you playing on an upright or a Grand piano?

Answer these questions, and I will give you a more specific answer.

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#955346 - 07/30/08 12:03 PM Re: una corda question
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Thank you Morodiene and Jeremy.

I've worked on many pieces with the una corda asked for but the one that brings this question to mind is Printemps from the Six Chants polonais by Chopin/Liszt op. 74. In my score (Durand) una corda is asked for in the first measure with no further mention. For that matter there is no piano or forte asked for throughout the entire work. It leaves me wondering when and if one should lift the u.c. pedal?
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#955347 - 07/30/08 12:04 PM Re: una corda question
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#955348 - 07/30/08 01:10 PM Re: una corda question
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You'll have to play through the piece to hear how it sounds and decide from that. I seriously doubt that the composer intended for there to be no dynamic contrasts in the entire piece, and so the same could be assumed about the una corda. Use your musicality and your ears to determine what sounds best, and go for it.
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#955349 - 07/30/08 06:36 PM Re: una corda question
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Peyton, one of the great features of the uc pedal is that you can change the tone color of the sound by how much you shift the hammers. The UC, you know I'm sure, moves the keys and hammers to the right, and as it does so, you are playing on a softer part of the hammer.

Personally, I use the uc very freely in Chopin. It allows you to both change color and to increase the dynamic range of your playing.

And no two times are the same.
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#955350 - 08/05/08 09:55 PM Re: una corda question
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One of the mvts. from Debussy's Children's Corner Suite (I forget which) specifies Una Corda throughout the movement even when the dynamic is marked Forte. Otherwise I agree with Morodiene, use your own musical imagination regarding U.C.
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#955351 - 08/06/08 09:12 AM Re: una corda question
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Originally posted by Hautboys:
One of the mvts. from Debussy's Children's Corner Suite (I forget which) specifies Una Corda throughout the movement even when the dynamic is marked Forte. Otherwise I agree with Morodiene, use your own musical imagination regarding U.C. [/b]
My score doesn't show this at all...perhaps you were thinking of a prelude?

Anyway, it does also depend on the piano you're playing on. My piano at home, though I love it, I can't stand how the una corda sounds on it. It already has a warm sound, but the una corda just makes it muffled. I'm having the tuner look at it on Friday to see if there's an adjustment she can make to it. But really, it comes down to the aesthetic taste of the performer. Listen, listen, listen! \:\)
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