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#961156 - 10/03/04 01:48 PM Pathetique sonata first movement
Moshe Offline
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Registered: 04/17/04
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Loc: Toronto
My student is having a great deal of difficulty playing this piece through because of the left hand broken octave type figure. He gets incredibly tired doing this part. What suggestions do you have for the student that would enable him to complete the piece without losing his left hand!

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#961157 - 10/03/04 02:30 PM Re: Pathetique sonata first movement
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Registered: 10/01/04
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Moshe,
when I played it as a kid, I got really really tired in my left hand too. I would simply advice your student to practice it slowly, in a tempo where he can feel relaxed in his left hand and not get tired. Later, he can increase speed, just as long as he doesn't get tired. He doesn't even have to practice this beethoven sonata, he could just play the octave part over and over again in a slow tempo. I'm sure he will make progress in a couple of weeks.

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#961158 - 10/03/04 04:25 PM Re: Pathetique sonata first movement
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Practice the left hand in triplets and in quick bursts: one long note, three very fast notes, one long note, etc...
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#961159 - 10/04/04 03:08 PM Re: Pathetique sonata first movement
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very good advice, Kreisler, why didn't I ever think of that?

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