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#962290 - 09/03/08 05:56 PM first student
Zhenya Offline
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Registered: 08/21/08
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Loc: Marietta,GA
I got a first student I am so happy but of course its not without problem.
The child cant stop talking :)She is 5 years old.
Funny at some point since my 7 year old the same way but I hope maybe any suggestions how to keep her focused?
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#962291 - 09/03/08 07:30 PM Re: first student
Betty Patnude Offline
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Registered: 06/11/07
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Loc: Puyallup, Washington
What does she talk about?

Is it interesting and useful for you to get to know her better?

Remember that the opposite is someone who isn't going to talk to you at all. That might be even harder to work with.

You could try repeating back to her everything she just said with a question at the end. The question being "Is that what you wanted me to know?"

Maybe this child just wants to be heard and taken seriously and wants you to know she has a good brain to work with.

She probably wants to know that you do hear her and accurately.

You could also invite her to make a comment by asking her a question about the music.

"Let's talk music!" is directive and invitational. "What did you notice about your song?"

You could also monitor your talking during lesson so that it was exacting and just enough - as a good example.

This is an opportunity to teach an important thing, Zhenya, that relates to life's skills and time management and becoming succinct - even at the age of 5. Talking and listening can be even exchanges along with the music lesson.

Piano lessons must be a pretty exciting thing for her.

I just wrote what I was thinking, my ideas are debatible, but they are all mine. I won't be offended if anyone chooses to ignore them.

I must say, that is a current occurance with new students that I've experienced - either end - no talk - too much talk.

You can also use the clock to show how much time you have to complete the lesson. Knowing you have 2 minutes to say something, helps you learn to say it in 30 seconds.

Good luck to this little cutie and to you!

Chattering, chattering away myself. "Gong!"

Betty
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#962292 - 09/03/08 07:49 PM Re: first student
Gary D. Offline
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Registered: 08/30/08
Posts: 3471
Loc: South Florida
 Quote:
Originally posted by Zhenya:
I got a first student I am so happy but of course its not without problem.
The child cant stop talking :)She is 5 years old.
Funny at some point since my 7 year old the same way but I hope maybe any suggestions how to keep her focused? [/b]
I have a rule, which I think is fair: no talking while you are playing!

Strangely, the one person I have a problem about regarding this is an adult who insists on commenting on his playing, wanting to explain why he makes every mistake and how it never happens at home. \:\)

For the talkative little ones, I try to keep them so busy playing that they are occupied with the physical challenge of the music itself.

In the same way, I notice that most of my small ones get bored very quickly if I take much time explaining things, even the quieter ones who try to be really polite. So I try to keep everything "hands on", as much as possible.

Now, if you have one that is ready to whine or cry every moment, that's a much bigger problem, at least for me!

Gary
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#962293 - 09/04/08 12:03 AM Re: first student
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Registered: 07/26/07
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Loc: Atlanta
Kids will talk, especially at that age. They haven't quite grasped the concept of following a topic through conversation just yet. They will, in another couple of years, but if she goes off topic it's perfectly okay to say something like, "Alright, let's talk about piano again," and continue teaching as if nothing has happened. It's perfectly normal behavior for kids her age, even if it feels rude to you to direct the conversation back to the topic at hand.

If she won't stop talking altogether, that is a discipline issue, and you need to remind her that although you are interested in what she has to say, that needs to come after the lesson, and not during. Lesson time is for learning, not for chit-chat.
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#962294 - 09/04/08 12:16 AM Re: first student
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Registered: 05/15/07
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Loc: Down Under
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Originally posted by Zhenya:
The child cant stop talking :)She is 5 years old.
... I hope maybe any suggestions how to keep her focused? [/b]
At this age you need to vary the activities - you can't really expect focused attention for more than about 5-10 minutes on the same thing. Involve her in lots of musical activities involving movement, too, not just sitting at the piano staring at the page.
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#962295 - 09/04/08 09:21 AM Re: first student
Morodiene Offline
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Registered: 04/06/07
Posts: 7496
Loc: Boynton Beach, FL
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Originally posted by Minaku:
Kids will talk, especially at that age. They haven't quite grasped the concept of following a topic through conversation just yet. They will, in another couple of years, but if she goes off topic it's perfectly okay to say something like, "Alright, let's talk about piano again," and continue teaching as if nothing has happened. It's perfectly normal behavior for kids her age, even if it feels rude to you to direct the conversation back to the topic at hand.

If she won't stop talking altogether, that is a discipline issue, and you need to remind her that although you are interested in what she has to say, that needs to come after the lesson, and not during. Lesson time is for learning, not for chit-chat. [/b]
Right on. Kids this age really are just enjoying the fact that they know how to carry on a conversation, but they haven't quite learned what is socially acceptable conversation so they will say whatever comes to their mind. Redirect the conversation by simply acknowledging what they say and then going right back to the music. Don't ignore what they say, but simply change the subject after as Betty said, repeating what they said. I always let kids talk tome before we get started by asking them how their day was, or their weekend or whatever. Once they get that out of their system then we're ready to do piano.
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#962296 - 09/05/08 10:35 AM Re: first student
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Registered: 02/13/08
Posts: 200
Loc: Wisconsin
Enjoy it, Zhenya! This is what is fun about 5-year-olds. =) Just imagine how she will be once she learns to play a little. Then she won't stop playing.
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