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#962805 - 08/23/05 10:10 PM Do-Re-Mi or C D E? What about chords and music theory?
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Also, there is a difference in the do, re, mi system as used in United States and some European countries (like France). In U S. we use a moveable do. In France do is fixed, it is always C. Our do changes to be the first tone of the particular scale. So using do, re, mi does not mean the same to everyone.

Japan and England use A, B, C...
France, Germany, Italy and Isreal use do, re, mi (I think fixed)
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#962806 - 08/23/05 10:27 PM Re: Do-Re-Mi or C D E? What about chords and music theory?
rintincop Offline
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Also, there is a difference in the do, re, mi system as used in United States and some European countries (like Germany). In U S. we use a moveable do. In Germany do is fixed, it is always c. Our do changes to be the first tone of the particular scale. So using do, re, mi does not mean the same to everyone.

Japan, USA and England use A, B, C...
France, Italy and Isreal use do, re, mi (fixed?)
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#962807 - 08/23/05 10:29 PM Re: Do-Re-Mi or C D E? What about chords and music theory?
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I don't see much advantage using do, re, mi syllables instead of numbers (1, 2, 3...) because of the added convienience of not having to mentally translate to still another system when speaking of "a fifth interval" or "a minor seventh", for example, or when speaking of chord theory where chords in a key are given Roman numerals (I, ii, iii...). The numbers, however, are not very singable when practicing sight-reading and I suppose this is why the syllables are used.

I never learned music with Do Re Mi at all.
I learned them with note-letters, A, B, C.

When you learn them with Do Re Mi, how in the world do you know what key you are in, or which chord of the key?

Re major?

I hear the notes, and can usually pretty acurately transcribe them. I don't have perfect pitch by any means, though. Just a good ear and years of music.

I can't even imagine having to hear a note, 'translate' it into Do Re Mi, then 'translate' it again to put it on a staff.

C,D,C...yes, do, re, mi....but also sol, la, si if you're in F Major and using the movable do. The movable do works for me and I don't think I want to learn about do being stuck at C, probably because I don't have perfect pitch.

I guess I realize that do re mi, etc. is valuable for sightsinging. You can learn the same intervals wherever do is. For chromatics, use DO dee RE ree MI FA fee SO si LA li TI DO and descending DO TI tey LA lay SO say FA MI may DO but I can never remember the hand signals for chromatics. I've never used that system with instrumental music. It sounds confusing.
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#962808 - 09/17/05 09:58 PM Re: Do-Re-Mi or C D E? What about chords and music theory?
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If you are truly interested in learning more about solfege, you can go to http://pianosolfegeduo.blogspot.com. It's not my web site, but I'm a firm believer in the benefits of solfege and of the piano course that will be coming out soon.

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#962809 - 09/17/05 11:50 PM Re: Do-Re-Mi or C D E? What about chords and music theory?
kateriniparalia Offline
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 Quote:
Originally posted by rintincop:
...I can never remember the hand signals for chromatics. I've never used that system with instrumental music. It sounds confusing. [/b]
What do you mean by "hand signals" in this context?

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#962810 - 09/17/05 11:59 PM Re: Do-Re-Mi or C D E? What about chords and music theory?
kateriniparalia Offline
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One more question:
Is the idea behind moveable 'do' to train yourself to hear/sing intervals, whereas, with the fixed 'do' the focus is to try to develop perfect pitch?

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#962811 - 09/18/05 06:29 PM Re: Do-Re-Mi or C D E? What about chords and music theory?
DantheMan Offline
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Great link, WKS70! Here's another good one from wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solfege
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