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#965518 - 06/14/05 07:18 AM Grieg Concerto
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Grieg Piano Concerto in A Minor - I. Allegro molto moderato

This is my first solo performance with an orchestra.
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#965519 - 06/14/05 05:47 PM Re: Grieg Concerto
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indeed. Bravo!

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#965520 - 06/14/05 06:05 PM Re: Grieg Concerto
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Oh man I'm excited. I'm downloading it now, damned slow connection
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#965521 - 06/16/05 11:15 AM Re: Grieg Concerto
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Well, there's the obvious memory slipup a few minutes in - not much to be said on that, except for the fact that you kept going. Painful as it was to hear that, that you kept your composure and kept going is admirable.

Compared to your other recordings that you posted, I was impressed in this one that you seemed to keep your tempo more under control (not so much that the others were out of control, but they were for the most part way too fast). What I think this would benefit from is a serious effort to control accuracy. I thought your tempo was good, as was your interpretation, but a lot of places had major note flubs, as though you were aiming and hoping that you'd hit the right notes. Instead of just hoping the notes will come out right, you will do well to prepare. The extra fraction of a second you take to adjust hand position and be ready to play the notes properly will go miles towards a cleaner performance.

For a first performance with an orchestra, good job...
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#965522 - 06/16/05 12:25 PM Re: Grieg Concerto
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8ude -

I don't remember the last time I've felt so exhausted after a practice session.

Boy, did your post inspire me to work!
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#965523 - 06/16/05 12:44 PM Re: Grieg Concerto
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Keep up the good work. From what I've read, I think you're doing considerably well for playing as long as you have. And playing with an orchestra is always an awesome experience, you're lucky to be able to play with one (and from what it sounded like, a pretty decent one too).

I should also mention, I thought parts of the cadenza were quite well done...
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#965524 - 06/24/05 12:29 PM Re: Grieg Concerto
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That part where you stopped playing was cool.
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#965525 - 06/28/05 07:39 PM Re: Grieg Concerto
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I say, even with the memory slip and some minor flubs here and there, this was probably my favorite of the recordings you've posted so far. The others still need a good polishing up.

Keep up the good work. I wish I could had played with an orchestra after only six years of lessons.
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#965526 - 06/28/05 07:46 PM Re: Grieg Concerto
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Joseph:
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#965527 - 08/26/05 01:47 AM Re: Grieg Concerto
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Not bad. I recognize in you a lot of the tendencies I had just a few years ago, which still hound on me now, though I've gotten better mastery of them since my, umm... "not-so-triumphant, in fact, perhaps mediocre" return to the piano. ;\)

That tendency is to expect that you're playing things too slowly, and that they must move along at a quicker pace. I did this for the first 12 years I played. Nothing was fast enough...except the slow stuff, which I was, in fact, content with. :p As a "for instance", I used to play the friska from the Hungarian No 2 in about 3:45. That's about 1:30 faster than most people tend to play it. I'm sure, under control, it would sound decent, and perhaps even light and 'dancy', but when I was 17, it was out of control. And, more recently, I just slowed the 3rd movement of the Moonlight down from 5:30, which was just overkill. Fast music sounds good fast, but sounds incredibly bad 'too fast'. ;\)

Anyway, as far as I can tell, that's the "number one" reason for your missed notes (except that memory slip which was, well, a memory slip, and they do happen...great job getting back in there).

So, my best advice would be to "start feeling comfortable in your own skin", leave the music to the music, and the tempo to your fingers. They'll play it well, if you don't try to push them too hard. (And, as I said, of this I have been guilty myself.) ;\)
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#965528 - 09/27/05 07:05 PM Re: Grieg Concerto
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Aside from a lot of the Left Hand "bangin" (no offense) and the missed notes, the performance was quite good =D Congratulations!
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#965529 - 09/29/05 03:39 PM Re: Grieg Concerto
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Thanks, guys. Perhaps I ought to study the Russian school of thought here to loosen up my "banging" and get everything more under control! :p
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#965530 - 10/06/05 10:47 AM Re: Grieg Concerto
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Wow, lot's of notes in this piece, good job!

Must be fun and satisfying working with an orchestra!
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#965531 - 10/06/05 03:35 PM Re: Grieg Concerto
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Must be fun and satisfying working with an orchestra! [/b]
Indeed, very much. \:D
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#965532 - 10/10/05 11:44 PM Re: Grieg Concerto
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I agree...playing the piano was 'fun' until I played with an orchestra for the first time, and then fun became love. ;\)
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#965533 - 10/11/05 12:27 AM Re: Grieg Concerto
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How do you get to play with an orchestra? Was that in school?
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#965534 - 10/11/05 03:21 PM Re: Grieg Concerto
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We had a concert every year for the 12th graders, called the "Senior Concerto Concert." Any senior in band/orchestra/choir could play/sing a concerto/aria at the concert in June.

On the same program, this year, we also played Mendelssohn Violin (first movement), Saint-Saens Cello #1 (first movement), Lalo Symphonie Espagnole - 5th mvmnt, and some other great pieces.

Last year we played Rach 2 (the first movement) and Chopin 1 (also the first movement) and Mendelssohn 2 (also the first movement).
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#965535 - 10/14/05 05:32 PM Re: Grieg Concerto
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Last year we played Rach 2 (the first movement)
Was that you, too? (recording...now...) ;\)
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#965536 - 10/14/05 05:39 PM Re: Grieg Concerto
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Last year we played Rach 2 (the first movement)
Was that you, too? (recording...now...) ;\) [/b]
Of course not! :p I was just one of the cellists in the orchestra.

I wish I had a recording of that concert, though. It was great. The girl who played the Mendlessohn Concerto actually flubbed towards the beginning, a bit like I did in the Grieg, but she was able to get back into it and perform well. The Chopin was great, too, but the Rachmaninov was really awesome. I doubt that there was a single person in the hall (including the orchestra) who didn't give him a standing ovation.
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#965537 - 10/14/05 05:43 PM Re: Grieg Concerto
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They're doing the Rach 2 and the Grieg (1st movements) again next June.

I think I will go and listen to that concert! \:D
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#965538 - 10/14/05 08:06 PM Re: Grieg Concerto
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Where is this, again? (If it's not too far... ;\) )
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#965539 - 10/14/05 09:24 PM Re: Grieg Concerto
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It's a bit of a drive from Philadelphia... ;\)
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#965540 - 10/15/05 05:49 PM Re: Grieg Concerto
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Do I have to go under water? :p ;\)
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#965541 - 10/15/05 08:20 PM Re: Grieg Concerto
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You can if you'd like, but it's not recommended. ;\)

It's about a 10-hour drive east.
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#965542 - 10/16/05 01:28 AM Re: Grieg Concerto
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Hmm...ten hours east?! Doesn't that put me just west of the Canary Islands...a good four hours drive from Africa? :p ;\)
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#965543 - 10/16/05 03:38 PM Re: Grieg Concerto
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Ah, indeed. Make that 10 hours WEST.
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#965544 - 10/16/05 04:25 PM Re: Grieg Concerto
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*laughs* Indeed! I was about to rent a canoe. :p ;\)

So you're somewhere east of the North-South line that runs through Louisville, Kentucky? (That was approximately a ten hour drive last time I did it...though it should probably be closer to 12.)

Hmm...I guess we'll have to see how adventurous I'm feeling come June. I've done it before (a friend wanted to drive from Philly to Chicago to have lunch, and then turn around and come back). (We didn't do it...but we still toss it around every once in a while. ;\) )
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#965545 - 11/10/05 06:24 PM Re: Grieg Concerto
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Ah yes our Orchestra teacher does the same thing.

I am hoping that by the time I am a senior mabye I can attempt the 2nd Prokofiev concerto movement 1. It will be hard but I think I can and besides it's just for a bunch of parents who think anything is good anyways.

If I can't do that then I'll probably do the Rach 2 (Which I already have learned) or 3 depending on my technique level
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#965546 - 12/15/05 12:01 AM Re: Grieg Concerto
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Amazing job. Aside from the few mistakes already mentioned, but what you did great definately outweighs what you did wrong. I am palying with an orchestra this summer... I can't wait to play with them.... I bet its an amazing feeling.

Good work though. I always love hearing you play!

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#965547 - 12/15/05 12:05 AM Re: Grieg Concerto
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Thanks, PianoBeast. Yes, playing with an orchestra is full of wonderful feelings. You're going to love it. \:\)
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