Welcome to the Piano World Piano Forums
Over 2 million posts about pianos, digital pianos, and all types of keyboard instruments
Join the World's Largest Community of Piano Lovers (it's free)
It's Fun to Play the Piano ... Please Pass It On!

Gifts and supplies for the musician
SEARCH
the Forums & Piano World

This custom search works much better than the built in one and allows searching older posts.
(ad 125) Sweetwater - Digital Keyboards & Other Gear
Digital Pianos at Sweetwater
(ad) Pearl River
Pearl River Pianos
(ad) Pianoteq
(ad) P B Guide
Acoustic & Digital Piano Guide
Ad (Piano Sing)
How to Make Your Piano Sing
Who's Online
82 registered (Anita Potter, anamnesis, ando, accordeur, Almaviva, 23 invisible), 1327 Guests and 17 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Quick Links to Useful Piano & Music Resources
Our Classified Ads
Find Piano Professionals-

*Piano Dealers - Piano Stores
*Piano Tuners
*Piano Teachers
*Piano Movers
*Piano Restorations
*Piano Manufacturers
*Organs

Quick Links:
*Advertise On Piano World
*Free Piano Newsletter
*Online Piano Recitals
*Piano Recitals Index
*Piano & Music Accessories
*Music School Listings
* Buying a Piano
*Buying A Acoustic Piano
*Buying a Digital Piano
*Pianos for Sale
*Sell Your Piano
*How Old is My Piano?
*Piano Books
*Piano Art, Pictures, & Posters
*Directory/Site Map
*Contest
*Links
*Virtual Piano
*Music Word Search
*Piano Screen Saver
*Piano Videos
*Virtual Piano Chords
(ad) Estonia Piano
Estonia Pianos
Topic Options
#968171 - 05/07/07 12:16 AM Bach Prelude and Fugue in F# Minor, WTC Book II
ASBpiano Offline
Full Member

Registered: 09/29/03
Posts: 140
Loc: Massachusetts
Here's a little something I recorded today...

http://www.box.net/shared/q0sluusfma

More coming soon...

Top
Piano & Music Acc. / Sheet Music


Sheet Music Plus Homepage
#968172 - 05/07/07 03:49 PM Re: Bach Prelude and Fugue in F# Minor, WTC Book II
juventus_fc97 Offline
Full Member

Registered: 05/21/06
Posts: 44
Loc: Missouri
Hey,

Very nice! I thought you played this very clearly and articulated, just as it should be in other words. The quality of the recording itself was nice as well. There was one thing that got to me throughout the piece though. You seemed to play with too much rubato. And of course with Baroque, any rubato is too much. Overall though I enjoyed it. Thanks for sharing.

-Robert
_________________________
'Music is what feelings sound like'

Top
#968173 - 05/07/07 03:50 PM Re: Bach Prelude and Fugue in F# Minor, WTC Book II
juventus_fc97 Offline
Full Member

Registered: 05/21/06
Posts: 44
Loc: Missouri
Very nice! I thought you played this very clearly and articulated, just as it should be in other words. The quality of the recording itself was nice as well. There was one thing that got to me throughout the piece though. You seemed to play with too much rubato. And of course with Baroque, any rubato is too much. Overall though I enjoyed it. Thanks for sharing.

-Robert
_________________________
'Music is what feelings sound like'

Top
#968174 - 05/07/07 03:50 PM Re: Bach Prelude and Fugue in F# Minor, WTC Book II
juventus_fc97 Offline
Full Member

Registered: 05/21/06
Posts: 44
Loc: Missouri
Very nice! I thought you played this very clearly and articulated, just as it should be in other words. The quality of the recording itself was nice as well. There was one thing that got to me throughout the piece though. You seemed to play with too much rubato. And of course with Baroque, any rubato is too much. Overall though I enjoyed it. Thanks for sharing.

-Robert
_________________________
'Music is what feelings sound like'

Top
#968175 - 05/07/07 03:52 PM Re: Bach Prelude and Fugue in F# Minor, WTC Book II
juventus_fc97 Offline
Full Member

Registered: 05/21/06
Posts: 44
Loc: Missouri
Oops. Sorry about the multi post...could a mod please delete 2 of them.
_________________________
'Music is what feelings sound like'

Top
#968176 - 05/07/07 05:26 PM Re: Bach Prelude and Fugue in F# Minor, WTC Book II
ASBpiano Offline
Full Member

Registered: 09/29/03
Posts: 140
Loc: Massachusetts
Thanks for the comments. I wouldn't say that ANY rubato is too muc -- after all, we are playing on a piano and not a harpsichord. But I hear where you're coming from. I was surprised with how the quality came out. I'm using a pretty low-key Sony condenser microphone, but after a little tweaking it came out pretty nice.

Top
#968177 - 05/12/07 12:41 AM Re: Bach Prelude and Fugue in F# Minor, WTC Book II
gabytu Offline
1000 Post Club Member

Registered: 12/26/05
Posts: 1522
Loc: Portland, Or.
Beautifully played. That is one of my favorite Bach, Prelude and Fugue. I am not a purist, so I like the Rubato. My teacher is always correcting me for too much Rubato, and also legato, when I play Bach. He wants a more precise, crisp playing.Of course he is correct, and I am struggling to remember that Bach is not Chopin.
Your playing was very clean, and everything was clearly articulated. Gaby Tu

Top
#968178 - 05/23/07 10:06 AM Re: Bach Prelude and Fugue in F# Minor, WTC Book II
BruceD Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member

Registered: 05/26/01
Posts: 18292
Loc: Victoria, BC
I liked this sensitive approach to Bach (in the Prelude) very much. I think we can sometimes be too "clinical" in eschewing rubato in some Baroque music. Wasn't it J.S.Bach who, in his treatise on keyboard playing, admonished us, above all, to play with taste? I thought that the Prelude was played with great taste, and the rubato made it live and breathe in a way that a purely metronomic approach would not have done.

Both the Prelude and Fugue were played with appropriate clarity. I noticed, somewhere around measures 22-25 that the subject was played with a mordent when it occured in the RH but not so ornamented in the LH. This reminds of me what Tovey says about the trill in the principal subject when it first appears (ABRSM edition, p 114)"This trill given by Bach during the Exposition can, of course, be supplied wherever playable." Perhaps you felt that the mordent wasn't "playable" in the LH in these particular measures.

In any case, I find this exemplary playing; I enjoyed it very much.

Thank you.

Regards,
_________________________
BruceD
- - - - -
Estonia 190

Top
#968179 - 06/27/07 08:23 AM Re: Bach Prelude and Fugue in F# Minor, WTC Book II
bachmaniac Offline
Full Member

Registered: 12/01/06
Posts: 410
Loc: Montreal, CAN
Hello ASBpiano

this Bach is soulful and tasteful. I particularly enjoyed the fugue so much I downloaded it so I can listen to it once in a while.

There could be a little more simplicity in the interpretation of the prelude and it could be made a little less "romantic", but you do nothing outrageous to it, just your understanding and feeling of it shows... Soulful.

Bravo

Claude
_________________________
K. Kawai KG-2D grand, Kawai MP8 digital, Kawai CA7

Top
#968180 - 07/11/07 02:18 PM Re: Bach Prelude and Fugue in F# Minor, WTC Book II
ASBpiano Offline
Full Member

Registered: 09/29/03
Posts: 140
Loc: Massachusetts
Thank you all for the wonderful comments. I've really enjoyed studying this prelude and fugue. I couldn't agree more with all of your sentiments on rubato with regards to Bach interpretation. I try very hard to keep my playing within period boundaries but I've always felt that so called "purist" arguments can get a bit hypocritical given that we're playing on such a different instrument from Bach's. I feel that moderated and logical use of rubato is often essential to get dynamic ideas across. Thanks again for the comments -- I'll try to get some more recordings up here sometime.

-Ari

Top
#968181 - 07/25/07 01:20 AM Re: Bach Prelude and Fugue in F# Minor, WTC Book II
BruceD Offline
Yikes! 10000 Post Club Member

Registered: 05/26/01
Posts: 18292
Loc: Victoria, BC
It somewhat bemuses me when people suggest that the music of Bach should be played with absolute strictness and with limited expressiveness. I admit to certain Baroque performance practices, but I find it hard to believe that Bach was a man without emotion and without passion. That those elements should be removed from his music for the sake of Baroque "purity" seems somewhat counterproductive to me.

Regards,
_________________________
BruceD
- - - - -
Estonia 190

Top
#968182 - 07/25/07 01:56 PM Re: Bach Prelude and Fugue in F# Minor, WTC Book II
paulpaulpiano Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 07/25/07
Posts: 4
Loc: Hong Kong
Hello asbpiano

I enjoy your playing. It is lovely.
Music is music, never mind the "purity".
Music speak for itself.

Regards.

Paulpaulpiano

Top

What's Hot!!
Christmas Header
Christmas Lights at Piano World Headquarters in Maine 2014
-------------------
The December Free Piano Newsletter
-------------------
Forums Rules & Help
-------------------
ADVERTISE
on Piano World

The world's most popular piano web site.
-------------------
PIANO BOOKS
Interesting books about the piano, pianists, piano history, biographies, memoirs and more!
(ad) Yamaha CP Music Rest Promo
Yamaha CP Music Rest Promo
(ad) HAILUN Pianos
Hailun Pianos - Click for More
Ad (Seiler/Knabe)
Knabe Pianos
(125ad) Dampp Chaser
Dampp Chaser Piano Life Saver
(ad) Lindeblad Piano
Lindeblad Piano Restoration
Sheet Music Plus (125)
Sheet Music Plus Featured Sale
New Topics - Multiple Forums
Making a New York Steinway sound like a Hamburg Steinway
by nphase
12/20/14 10:24 PM
Merry Christmas from Brazil! Feliz Natal!!
by Piano_Brazil
12/20/14 09:19 PM
Rzewski: De Profundis
by pianoloverus
12/20/14 09:17 PM
Guide to skills level
by Gemgem
12/20/14 08:55 PM
piano with willie
by TonyB
12/20/14 08:25 PM
Forum Stats
77375 Members
42 Forums
160028 Topics
2349999 Posts

Max Online: 15252 @ 03/21/10 11:39 PM
Gift Ideas for Music Lovers!
Find the Perfect Gift for the Music Lovers on your List!
Visit our online store today.

Visit our online store for gifts for music lovers

 
Help keep the forums up and running with a donation, any amount is appreciated!
Or by becoming a Subscribing member! Thank-you.
Donate   Subscribe
 
Our Piano Related Classified Ads
|
Dealers | Tuners | Lessons | Movers | Restorations | Pianos For Sale | Sell Your Piano |

Advertise on Piano World
| Subscribe | Piano World | PianoSupplies.com | Advertise on Piano World | Donate | Link to Us | Classifieds |
| |Contact | Privacy | Legal | About Us | Site Map | Free Newsletter | Press Room |


copyright 1997 - 2014 Piano World ® all rights reserved
No part of this site may be reproduced without prior written permission