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#992418 - 11/02/06 10:33 PM Alfred's Lone Star Waltz - longish post
AlexBell Offline
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Registered: 08/25/06
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Loc: Launceston, Tasmania
This piece is on page 56 of Alfred's Basic Adult Piano Course Book 1, and has been causing me grief for weeks. Is there anyone out there who has played it recently and is willing to help me solve the problems?

The piece is in ternary form, and I'm reasonably happy with the A part and with the first series of 6th intervals required in the B part.

But the transition from the A to the B part is where I'm stuck at the moment. The last note of the A part is Middle C played by R1. The first 'note' of the B part is the G a fifth above (together with the E a 6th above the G; ie G and E played together). It is the jump from R1 on C to R1 on G which has been bringing me undone.

Could anyone comment please on a technique which I think is starting to work? What I have started to do is put the R hand in the '6th interval position' so that R5 is above A while I am playing the R1 on C. In this position R3 is almost touching the side of the black F# key. I then move the hand to the right until R3 lightly touches the side of the black C# key, which means that R1 is above the G key. And so I can play the G and A and the following sequence of notes. I seem to be making the jump much more accurately and consistently than before.

Does this make sense? Is there a better way? Am I teaching myself a bad habit which will cause problems in future?
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#992419 - 11/02/06 11:46 PM Re: Alfred's Lone Star Waltz - longish post
Monica K. Offline

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Hi Alex,

I personally think that whatever system you come up with that lets you make that jump accurately and seamlessly, without a noticeable pause, is just fine. I couldn't think of any downside to what you were describing (assuming I understood it correctly), but I'm not a teacher. Hopefully one of the teachers who hangs out here will read your post and give you a more informed answer. \:\)
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#992420 - 11/03/06 04:03 PM Re: Alfred's Lone Star Waltz - longish post
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Thanks, Monica. Could you tell me please how you make jumps?
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#992421 - 11/03/06 04:22 PM Re: Alfred's Lone Star Waltz - longish post
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Registered: 02/15/06
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Loc: Connecticut
Alex,

Your way is OK, but there is a smoother way.

When your R1 is on C, let your R4 rest on the C an octave above near the edge of the C#, and R5 on the D.

Now, after you play the C with R1, you can easily slide your hand to the right, almost pivoting on R4 to play G-E with R1-R5.

R4 will still be on C, touching the edge of the C#.

After a few tries, this should feel very comfortable.

Mel
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#992422 - 11/03/06 09:13 PM Re: Alfred's Lone Star Waltz - longish post
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Registered: 08/12/06
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In the actual piece you have all the time in the world to get to G/E because you use pedal in the last measure of the A section, so you can do whatever you want with your RH after it has played the C on beat 1. For instance: play the C on 1, scratch your head on 2, look at the keyboard and move RH to the new position on 3. To make it even easier, the LH then doesn't do anything for a while.

(I was wondering when I read your post because I couldn't remember any such difficulties when I did the Alfred 1 a month ago.)

Of course, the general question (how do you do skips?) remains interesting.

Dannylux's suggestion made me smile, especially the promise that it will be "very comfortable." It would be an exquisite torture for my hands (small hands, octave already somewhat uncomfortable, could do a 9th if my life depended on it, but that's it).
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