Kawai KG2 1985 rarely used, vs a regularly used 90' KG1??

Posted by: LilyHong

Kawai KG2 1985 rarely used, vs a regularly used 90' KG1?? - 04/16/12 02:43 PM

Hi all, I'm new to the forum. I have been amazed about the things I learned from here.

I'm looking for a used Kawai KG model that is <7K and came across a rarely used KG2D built 1985 for $5500 , technician said it's showromm quality and the year doesn't matter. I also tried another KG1 that is around 1992 that has duplex scaling for $6500. I'd appreciate some help on choosing one. I'd love to have the RX, but can't find any at my price range.

The KG2 also has a damp chaser. It might have caused a white spot on the bottom of the piano. There are also some black spot on a plastic film that stick out form the damp chaser. I don't think that's mildew, but was it a concern?

Thanks.
Posted by: Rickster

Re: Kawai KG2 1985 rarely used, vs a regularly used 90' KG1?? - 04/16/12 02:56 PM

Hi Lily, and welcome to the Piano World forums!

I think the price on the KG2 is very fair… and, your technician said it was in showroom condition. The KG1 is smaller, though newer and $1000 more. Which one did you like the best (tone, touch and appearance)?

As far as the KG1 having the duplex scale and the KG2 not, I’d go with the bigger piano rather than the duplex scale (but that is just my opinion).

As far as the issues with the damp chaser on the KG2, what did the tech say about that? It almost sounds like a contradiction in terms of it being in “showroom” condition.

I think the damp chasers are great if installed correctly and maintained correctly; I think they can be problematic if not… it is an option that has value if working properly.

Hope this helps, and keep us informed!

Rick
Posted by: BDB

Re: Kawai KG2 1985 rarely used, vs a regularly used 90' KG1?? - 04/16/12 03:00 PM

Bigger pianos tend to last better than smaller ones, as well as sounding better. The few extra years on the KG2 will be more than compensated by the size and the price.
Posted by: LilyHong

Re: Kawai KG2 1985 rarely used, vs a regularly used 90' KG1?? - 04/16/12 04:06 PM

Thanks for the quick responses so far. First touch...I like the KG1 better. The KG2 felt a bit lighter (that you sometimes feel when playing some older piano), but after playing a few more songs, it felt better. I like the look for the KG2 with a few more inches. The tone of both sounds good to me. I'm not professional, I have royal sch of music gr 8, learned some jazz too, but only play occasionally now. The piano is also for my children too, so getting a piano that can at least last another 20 years is important. I have a clavinova 59S that I'd keep as well. Then I can pass one to each of my children.

The technician didn't mention the damp chaser, I have to ask him. I don't know him, he was referred by some local technician's friend out of state. He said when he looked under, he didn't see anything wrong. He also didn't see a line on a couple white keys towards the right (they are very light though, hopefully not a sign of cracking yet). He actually said if I decided not to buy it, he would buy it himself becuase it's a great piano with great sound at great price. The owner took some lessons and then stopped, so for 20+ years, the piano wasn't played much, but she kept it serviced and was diligently putting water via the tub every few weeks when the light was on. It sounds like a hassle since I haven't heard of a damp chaser before. But after reading it a bit more, it seems to be a good thing if it was done right. This damp chaser is a little bit of concerning. Do the movers take them out before moving and I'd need a technician to reinstall that when it arrives?

I also just talked to someone who's selling a KG2E built in 1992 asking 5K (but with shipping it will be similar to the KG2D since it's farther). The owner is a music major so it probably got played a lot more.

How do you compare a piano that didn't got used much to another newer (8-10 yr difference) one that was played a lot more. Do those hammers/strings would still deteriorate as time goes by even without much playing?

Thanks.
Posted by: Robert 45

Re: Kawai KG2 1985 rarely used, vs a regularly used 90' KG1?? - 04/16/12 04:54 PM

All pianos deteriorate as they age. The rate of deterioration depends mainly on the stability of the piano's environment with regard to humidity levels, temperature, the regularity of tuning and maintenance and the amount of playing. Of course, a piano which is played a lot, for example a teacher's piano or a piano in an institution, will wear out much more quickly than one which is played moderately.

Even without much playing, a piano declines. It is preferable to play a piano regularly than to leave it without playing. Regular playing helps keep the moving parts of the piano, notably the action, in good operating condition and the speaking components, mainly the strings and the soundboard, in good voice. Strings and hammers may need replacing after 30 to 40 years approximately. The sound of the piano should tell you when something needs attention.

All the best with your choice. The KG2 seems a good buy.

Kind regards,

Robert.