My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes!

Posted by: Chopinlover49

My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/17/12 11:56 AM

Yikes! After a bit of a wait, my Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow and I am really excited, but also very nervous. It has to go up a flight of stairs, down a hall, and around a corner. I have been assured it will work but I have this terrible vision of a seven foot piano wedged into the corner of a hallway for the rest of my life. It will be going into a smallish bedroom, too, so that is another worry. I was originally going to buy a 6'4" M-H AA, but switched to the BB when I tried them both, and now I am worrying again if it will be too loud for the room. I am a soft player and will keep the lid down, the room is carpeted, and I can take other measures if needed, but I still will worry until I can try it out. I have a fully-finished, climate-controlled, third floor which is very large, carpeted, and wide-open, so I can always move it upstairs if I have to, but then every time I want to play, I will have to climb two flights of stairs and, at 63, this is not appealing.

I am hoping I can stay calm enough to watch them bring in the piano and take it up the stairs. If I can do that, I may get some pictures taken. Don't get me wrong, I know this will be a wonderful stage in my life, I just worry a lot about things. I have been playing this piano in my head for weeks and can't wait to do the real thing.

I will get back to you after it comes!
Posted by: pianoloverus

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/17/12 12:29 PM

It's not unnatural to worry about a piano delivery, even one that is simpler than the one you described. In terms of the volume, it's also possible to do some voicing to make the piano softer without significantly changing other aspects of the tone if this is necessary (in addition to other less drastic steps like adjusting the room's acoustics, etc).

I assume the movers or dealer is insured on the 1 in 1000 chance the delivery isn't perfect. Do you know how many movers will be there? I assume the minimum would be three for your 1000+ lb. monster.

I bet my own BB delivery story was much more...shall I say "exciting" than yours will be.
Posted by: Chopinlover49

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/17/12 12:35 PM

They know about the stairs, the size and weight of the piano, and so on. I have been assured they are the kind of people I can trust. I just worry a lot (basically I always have.)
Posted by: wouter79

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/17/12 01:32 PM

>I have a fully-finished, climate-controlled, third floor which is very large, carpeted, and wide-open, so I can always move it upstairs if I have to, but then every time I want to play, I will have to climb two flights of stairs and, at 63, this is not appealing.

Well that will be 1 time per day up and one time down right?

I would take that third floor large room
Posted by: carey

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/17/12 01:58 PM

Originally Posted By: Chopinlover49
I have a fully-finished, climate-controlled, third floor which is very large, carpeted, and wide-open, so I can always move it upstairs if I have to, but then every time I want to play, I will have to climb two flights of stairs and, at 63, this is not appealing.


Well at 65 myself, I can tell you that climbing two flights of stairs several times per day would probably be good for you !!! smile
Posted by: Playagain

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/17/12 02:38 PM

Now I'd like to hear about your BB delivery story, pianoloverus! Is there an old thread?

Hope everything goes well, Chopinlover49!
Kathy
Posted by: allthumbs

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/17/12 02:53 PM

I am in the same situation as you concerning the trepidation you are experiencing with the impending delivery of your piano.

My Sauter should be delivered sometime next week. It gets shipped from Germany starting today.

Bon chance!

allthumbs
Posted by: pianoloverus

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/17/12 03:26 PM

Originally Posted By: Playagain
Now I'd like to hear about your BB delivery story, pianoloverus! Is there an old thread?
Yes, but I have no idea which thread has the story and it's a too lengthy to retype.
Posted by: scepticalforumguy

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/17/12 04:08 PM

Originally Posted By: pianoloverus
Originally Posted By: Playagain
Now I'd like to hear about your BB delivery story, pianoloverus! Is there an old thread?
Yes, but I have no idea which thread has the story and it's a too lengthy to retype.


How about trying in four sentences or less? Kind of like the contest where novelists have to write a complete novel in a day, and they only get the theme the day they begin.
Posted by: Jeff Clef

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/17/12 04:28 PM

"... I have a fully-finished, climate-controlled, third floor which is very large, carpeted, and wide-open, so I can always move it upstairs if I have to, but then every time I want to play, I will have to climb two flights of stairs and, at 63, this is not appealing."

You could think about getting a Stair-Master (hope I have the name right--- what I mean is, one of those stair-climbing chair lifts; you see them advertized on TV all the time). Possibly, subtracting the cost of a second piano-move from this device's cost might make the price somewhat more attractive, or less daunting.

Anyway, congratulations. I hope you enjoy your new piano. No--- I'm sure you will.
Posted by: graycat89

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/17/12 05:08 PM

Congratulations on your new purchase. I also bought a BB almost a year ago and it is in a smallish room. I was also freaking out but the movers were fabulous. Yes it can get a touch loud but the difference between the BB and AA is huge. The piano is quite heavy and we live in an older home and have had ZERO problems with it's size and concerns about going through the floor, etc.

I think the piano sounds best with the lid fully open, and if it has been well regulated and voiced, it should be no problem.

Best wishes and I am sure you will love it. Cheers!!!!
Posted by: Chopinlover49

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/17/12 05:38 PM

Thanks, everyone. I will try to relax. You are probably right about the extra stairs being good for me, but in the past, when my daughter had her Steinway at our house, I would go in three or four times some days to play it. That's a lot of stairs. My wife might say, "Dinner will be ready in 20 minutes," so I would play for 30 or so (She always underestimates.) You see? I will just wait and see how it goes. I am pretty sure the volume won't be a big problem. I am more worried about the room being a little like a reflector for the sound. However, I am getting a little hearing loss so I probably won't even notice.
Posted by: backto_study_piano

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/17/12 05:42 PM

Congratulations - the BB was close to the top of my list. Should be a great piano.

I had "concerns" about how loud my piano would be once it was delivered. No problems. I generally play with the lid up (sounds better). Of course, I CAN play louder than what is comfortable, but with any piano, that is a possibility.
Posted by: wouter79

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/18/12 07:43 AM

>However, I am getting a little hearing loss so I probably won't even notice.

One more reason IMHO to be extra careful, you don't want to loose the remaining hearing?
Posted by: apple*

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/18/12 07:50 AM

don't worry.. actually learning how to play VERY softly makes one a very diverse and good player. You must be super excited. Congrats. take pics if you can.

Maybe you can have rug selected for underneath and find a nice piano cover that is somewhat insulated. I rolled up a small quilt and put it directly behind the music desk.. and later removed it. it sounded nice.
Posted by: Chopinlover49

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/18/12 08:21 AM

I didn't sleep much last night. The guys are a few minutes late. I am hoping to stay calm enough to take some pictures when they do their thing. Then I will have to find out how to put them on this site. Later...
Posted by: lilylady

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/18/12 08:26 AM

I bet you didn't sleep much! I didn't either, eagerly awaiting my delivery. Alas it didn't come until 7 at night. Hope that yours arrives soon.

There is a sticky thread on how to post photos. Hope that you do when you need a break from playing!

I also hope that it works out well for you in your smaller room. I only dared to go for an AA in mine. Would love the BB!
Posted by: Chopinlover49

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/20/12 12:00 AM

Well, it is here! It was quite an experience. The movers arrived a little late, but not a problem. Everyone was really nice and they had come quite a distance, so I was expecting it to be an approximate arrival time. There were three movers. I showed them the stairs, and general path to the bedroom where the piano goes. The boss of the group, Brian, said they were going into the city to get some more help.

Quite a while later, they came back with two painters from a local home improvement store (not really piano-moving types, if you ask me.) Brian told me he called most of the piano stores in the city but once he told them he was delivering a Mason-Hamlin BB (1020 pounds), they said they had a lot to do, a previous engagement, or whatever. I guess this is a frequent problem.

Anyway, they did a great job, the piano went up the stairs, down the hall, and into the turning corner. These guys really huffed and puffed! I was glad I wasn't on the bottom pushing! Things slowed down there, but with a lot of wiggling, they got it around the corner, into the room, and set up. Even though the cost of delivery was quite a bit more than I had originally expected, after watching them move that tank up the 16 steep stairs, I gave Brian a big tip to split with the guys!

One small wrinkle, they brought the wrong piano bench by mistake. I don't think it was their fault because when they picked up the piano, there was no one at the site to direct them and the bench was disassembled in a sealed box. I guess arrangements had been made and a small mixup occurred.

I have spoken with Rich at Cunningham's and it will be taken care of so I am not concerned.

I took about 60 pictures, trying to stay out of the way as much as possible. As soon as I figure out how to put pictures up on the site, I will upload a few of them.

Thanks for all of your support. I am really thrilled with my new polished ebony piano! I think I have played about eight hours since yesterday. My shoulders are killing me!
Posted by: rlinkt

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/20/12 12:36 AM

Congratulations! Enjoy the fine instrument!
Posted by: Chopinlover49

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/20/12 12:45 AM

My first try of putting up a photo of the delivery:

http://www.pianoworld.com/Uploads/files/IMG_4628
Posted by: Chopinlover49

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/20/12 12:46 AM

Well,it didn't work. I already re-sized about six other pictures, but I am doing it wrong. Any advice?
Posted by: Chopinlover49

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/20/12 01:00 AM

I tried something different: I put a few pictures on the Picture Gallery here on the forums because I don't know how to attach them here. Hopefully, if you are interested, you will take a look. If someone knows how to attach them here, just let me know.
Posted by: beethoven986

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/20/12 01:02 AM

Originally Posted By: Chopinlover49
Well,it didn't work. I already re-sized about six other pictures, but I am doing it wrong. Any advice?


Upload them to something like bluemelon.com and then come back to Piano World. Reply to the topic. At the top of the text field, click the button that's fourth from the left. Click one of the choices, and then enter the image URL.
Posted by: Chopinlover49

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/20/12 01:07 AM

Originally Posted By: beethoven986
Originally Posted By: Chopinlover49
Well,it didn't work. I already re-sized about six other pictures, but I am doing it wrong. Any advice?


Upload them to something like bluemelon.com and then come back to Piano World. Reply to the topic. At the top of the text field, click the button that's fourth from the left. Click one of the choices, and then enter the image URL.


I guess I don't know the terminology. Remember, I'm an old guy. What buttons at the top of the text field?
Posted by: BeccaBb

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/20/12 01:10 AM

The posted on the forum pictures are Here

Beautiful piano! Don't give yourself an injury right off the bat! wink Looks like that was quite the move! Congrats!
Posted by: Chopinlover49

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/20/12 09:49 AM

My grand-children came over and washed their hands, played the piano, and were delighted! They have only had three lessons so far, so they are doing Mary Had a Little Lamb, and so on. Still, each played for over an hour and had to be dragged away so the next could play. I think this was money well spent. Even the six year old, who hasn't had lessons yet, was dying to play it.
Posted by: ando

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/20/12 10:22 AM

Originally Posted By: Chopinlover49
My grand-children came over and washed their hands, played the piano, and were delighted! They have only had three lessons so far, so they are doing Mary Had a Little Lamb, and so on. Still, each played for over an hour and had to be dragged away so the next could play. I think this was money well spent. Even the six year old, who hasn't had lessons yet, was dying to play it.


So how loud is it in your small room?
Posted by: Playagain

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/20/12 10:52 AM

Chopinlover49,
It is beautiful! It's wonderful that your grandkids are enjoying it, too. Don't forget to take pictures of them with your new piano--they'll love looking back at the pictures someday.

My shoulders killed me once, and I realized I was sitting just a little too low, so I was lifting my shoulders up as I played. So, watch that you aren't lifting up your shoulders or tensing up.

Enjoy your beautiful piano!
Kathy
Posted by: Grandpianoman

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/20/12 11:35 AM

Congratulations!!
Posted by: Melodialworks Music

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/20/12 12:07 PM

Great photos of the move!

How does it sound?
Posted by: wouter79

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/20/12 03:21 PM

+ 1 Congratulations and thanks for posting the photos and I'm curious how it sounds in the small room.
Posted by: Chopinlover49

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/20/12 04:41 PM

That could be my problem. I will raise the bench some more and try it. Thanks!
Posted by: Chopinlover49

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/20/12 04:46 PM

With regard to the sound in a small room, it's not bad. I still haven't put up curtains, wall hangings, pictures, etc. Still moving my things down from our old house. I have played mostly at half-stick or lid down. My wife says the piano is louder outside than in the house. (This is a second-floor bedroom.) Actually, the piano needs to be tuned and voiced as the upper half has gone a bit sharp and it is a little brighter than it was when I tried it out. I suspect the move and sitting overnight in a cold trailer might have something to do with it. When all is done, then I will be able to tell you more, but right now I am enjoying it even though it needs tuning.
Posted by: pianoloverus

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/20/12 05:42 PM

Originally Posted By: scepticalforumguy
Originally Posted By: pianoloverus
Originally Posted By: Playagain
Now I'd like to hear about your BB delivery story, pianoloverus! Is there an old thread?
Yes, but I have no idea which thread has the story and it's a too lengthy to retype.


How about trying in four sentences or less? Kind of like the contest where novelists have to write a complete novel in a day, and they only get the theme the day they begin.

1. First time it didn't fit in the elevator despite my measurements to the nearest inch, scale drawing of the elevator, and assurances from dealer.

2. Lid was removed to shorten it by a couple of inches and the movers came back a few days later with the piano and lid wrapped in some kind of protective bubble wrap.

3. Made it into the elevator(not the type where ceiling can be removed)with only a few inches to spare.

4. Ahead of time request to not have the piano tilted on the lyre resulted in having one mover crouching under the piano with the piano on their back while the third leg was being installed. First two legs had attached with no problem, but the third leg had one of the movers yelling "It doesn't fit!". Had visions of piano crashing to floor and a dead mover lying underneath it. Was about to call NCIS and...

(Sorry, I ran out of sentences and can't finish.)
Posted by: Playagain

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/20/12 11:55 PM

Pianoloverus,
Thanks for posting part of your piano move! Very interesting, and I'm sure that was stressful!
Kathy
Posted by: wouter79

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/21/12 03:12 PM

Originally Posted By: Chopinlover49
With regard to the sound in a small room, it's not bad. I still haven't put up curtains, wall hangings, pictures, etc. Still moving my things down from our old house. I have played mostly at half-stick or lid down. My wife says the piano is louder outside than in the house. (This is a second-floor bedroom.) Actually, the piano needs to be tuned and voiced as the upper half has gone a bit sharp and it is a little brighter than it was when I tried it out. I suspect the move and sitting overnight in a cold trailer might have something to do with it. When all is done, then I will be able to tell you more, but right now I am enjoying it even though it needs tuning.


Good to hear (except for those outside the house :D)

Of course it needs to be tuned, they all need that after transport. I think the first impressions are almost always right on so you're probably fine!
Posted by: Jeff Clef

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/21/12 04:50 PM

The adjustable-height bench is especially a good idea, since your grandchildren will want to play the new Mason. Finding just the right height for yourself will help your shoulder, as long as your playing posture is satisfactory--- but that is a big subject, which can wait until after the first tuning, or longer.

A nice piano is one of the best investments you could have made for your retirement. But wait--- you say your wife is already complaining because it's too loud outside the house?

Hmmm...
Posted by: Chopinlover49

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/21/12 07:32 PM

Not complaining--she just encouraged me not to play later in the evening so the neighbors won't be bothered. The houses here are a bit closer together than our old house. We had a lot more privacy in the other home. Still, I doubt if the neighbors will hear me.
Posted by: Chopinlover49

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/23/12 02:02 PM

Obviously, the piano will get its first in-home tuning soon, and until it does, the upper registers are a bit sharp (the piano was moved a long distance and spent a rather cool night on a trailer before coming into the house, but even as it is, it plays very nicely and has a pretty tone.
Posted by: scepticalforumguy

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 10/24/12 01:23 PM

Originally Posted By: pianoloverus
Originally Posted By: scepticalforumguy
Originally Posted By: pianoloverus
Originally Posted By: Playagain
Now I'd like to hear about your BB delivery story, pianoloverus! Is there an old thread?
Yes, but I have no idea which thread has the story and it's a too lengthy to retype.


How about trying in four sentences or less? Kind of like the contest where novelists have to write a complete novel in a day, and they only get the theme the day they begin.

1. First time it didn't fit in the elevator despite my measurements to the nearest inch, scale drawing of the elevator, and assurances from dealer.

2. Lid was removed to shorten it by a couple of inches and the movers came back a few days later with the piano and lid wrapped in some kind of protective bubble wrap.

3. Made it into the elevator(not the type where ceiling can be removed)with only a few inches to spare.

4. Ahead of time request to not have the piano tilted on the lyre resulted in having one mover crouching under the piano with the piano on their back while the third leg was being installed. First two legs had attached with no problem, but the third leg had one of the movers yelling "It doesn't fit!". Had visions of piano crashing to floor and a dead mover lying underneath it. Was about to call NCIS and...

(Sorry, I ran out of sentences and can't finish.)


Hi PL,

You know, my story is pretty much the same in many ways--except with these changes:

1. I had arranged with piano movers that swore up and down that they could fit the BB in my elevator if my SK2 fit in because they took my word that the pianos were the same width. I did tell them the SK2 was tight, and the previous movers refused to move a piano in that elevator again without me signing a waiver. The current movers also didn't come to measure first.
In the meantime, I had the dealer measure the width of the keyboard end. He said it was 61". I went to Kawai website and the Mason websites multiple times to check the width, not having measured the SK2 myself before it left my apartment. It turns out that the SK2 is 152cm, or 5'1" wide at the keyboard (anyone see the first problem here?) In the meantime, the Mason website CHANGED the width of the BB specs from 59" to 62.75"!!!!! Not sure when, but it did. This was all before the move. Needless to say, I was now very worried.
In any case the movers showed up. Halfway into the elevator (five guys on the job) the guys on the outside of the elevator yelling ITS NOT GOING TO FIT!!!!!! The guy on the inside yelling back YES IT IS--HE HAD A 6'6" IN HERE BEFORE!!! I didn't bother correcting him that it was a 5'10"

And....they made it fit! Although, they did drop it a few inches when unloading from the elevator. It was on a pallet though, and only the tail dropped. No cracking sounds so hopefully nothing was damaged.

and 4: They also had difficulty with the third leg with the one guy yelling IT DOESN'T FIT!!!! and the boss yelling back YOU NEED TO LINE UP THE BOLT and the first guy yelling I KNOW WHAT I'M DOING all the while the other two holding onto the piano so it doesn't crush the leg installer.

Its all good now. I too have played about 10 hours since I received it last Saturday.
Posted by: Piano_Brazil

Re: My Mason-Hamlin BB is coming tomorrow! Yikes! - 05/22/14 10:24 AM

Originally Posted By: Chopinlover49
Well, it is here! It was quite an experience. The movers arrived a little late, but not a problem. Everyone was really nice and they had come quite a distance, so I was expecting it to be an approximate arrival time. There were three movers. I showed them the stairs, and general path to the bedroom where the piano goes. The boss of the group, Brian, said they were going into the city to get some more help.

Quite a while later, they came back with two painters from a local home improvement store (not really piano-moving types, if you ask me.) Brian told me he called most of the piano stores in the city but once he told them he was delivering a Mason-Hamlin BB (1020 pounds), they said they had a lot to do, a previous engagement, or whatever. I guess this is a frequent problem.

Anyway, they did a great job, the piano went up the stairs, down the hall, and into the turning corner. These guys really huffed and puffed! I was glad I wasn't on the bottom pushing! Things slowed down there, but with a lot of wiggling, they got it around the corner, into the room, and set up. Even though the cost of delivery was quite a bit more than I had originally expected, after watching them move that tank up the 16 steep stairs, I gave Brian a big tip to split with the guys!

One small wrinkle, they brought the wrong piano bench by mistake. I don't think it was their fault because when they picked up the piano, there was no one at the site to direct them and the bench was disassembled in a sealed box. I guess arrangements had been made and a small mixup occurred.

I have spoken with Rich at Cunningham's and it will be taken care of so I am not concerned.

I took about 60 pictures, trying to stay out of the way as much as possible. As soon as I figure out how to put pictures up on the site, I will upload a few of them.

Thanks for all of your support. I am really thrilled with my new polished ebony piano! I think I have played about eight hours since yesterday. My shoulders are killing me!


I have just received my Mason BB here in Brazil, and posted the first pictures of it here

I can't see the pictures of yours, and am very interested on that, and also to get to know how do you feel about your instrument... Thanks a lot