Steinway lock key

Posted by: Sauter

Steinway lock key - 01/26/13 08:47 PM

Beware. I bought an original Steinway lock key but there is no good on my S&S Hamburg M.

The second one is working fine but it is not original.
Posted by: Supply

Re: Steinway lock key - 01/26/13 08:54 PM

How old is your M, and where did you buy the key (NY)? Any parts you buy will fit current models, but not necessarily older pianos. Everything is subject to change over time - the source and design for parts always undergo change from decade to decade. NY pianos vary in many details from Hamburg pianos, although in past years there has been a convergence of design details.

Do you really have a need to lock your piano or do you just like the idea of having the key to the lock?
Posted by: Sauter

Re: Steinway lock key - 01/26/13 09:02 PM

The Steinway M is a 1970 (Serial 419809). This is a picture of the key work on. Open

and this is close


Posted by: Sauter

Re: Steinway lock key - 01/26/13 09:21 PM

The key is from Howard Pianos Industries. Hortonville WI
http://howardpianoindustries.com/piano-a...o-lock-key.html
They delivery to Mexico City very quick.
I suppose the Hamburg model is different in some ways to the NY model
Anyway my old key works very well (also on my Sauter baby grand)
Manuel
Posted by: peterws

Re: Steinway lock key - 01/27/13 01:35 PM

Goog grief; you can fork out all that dosh on a Steinway . . . and lose the bloody key! Happy days . . .
Posted by: Supply

Re: Steinway lock key - 01/27/13 01:36 PM

From the photo on link you gave, it is obvious that the key they are selling looks a lot different than the original key you have. In other words, it should have been clear before you ordered it that it would most likely not fit your piano.
Posted by: BDB

Re: Steinway lock key - 01/27/13 02:38 PM

Why would you care whether the key works or not? I hope you are not planning on locking the piano with it! That is one of the surest ways to damage your piano.
Posted by: Minnesota Marty

Re: Steinway lock key - 01/27/13 02:51 PM

Originally Posted By: BDB
That is one of the surest ways to damage your piano.

How on earth could a factory installed lock damage a piano???????
Posted by: BerndAB

Re: Steinway lock key - 01/27/13 04:49 PM

The very most pianos have a lock which functions in a very similar way..

The G. Adam, Wesel piano from 1906 was same.

The Steinway lock key is extremely high priced in Europe, it costs around 27 Euro i.e. 37 USD.
Posted by: Sauter

Re: Steinway lock key - 01/27/13 05:33 PM

Well, just for the record.
I bought the key that works from a local key cutter (locksmith) because my Sauter doesnt have it. I unescrew the lock and take it to him. He adapted an old key he had for about 10 dollars.
That key works very well on the Steinway too but the original key looks like a pretty girl.
So I bought it ($30.95 plus delivery) but was unuseful.
Thats the sad story about the original Steinway key.
In any case Im not think lock the piano (unless my nephew to treaten to play my lovely Grand)
The lock works just fine with the old key I have
And thats it
Thanks all of you
Posted by: Supply

Re: Steinway lock key - 01/27/13 08:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Minnesota Marty
Originally Posted By: BDB
That is one of the surest ways to damage your piano.

How on earth could a factory installed lock damage a piano???????
I can tell you!

Most working piano technicians have come across lock plates that have been bent by someone trying to force a locked lid or fallboard. It is not always possible to replace these plates with new parts, so the old plate has to be bent back into shape and re-installed. The damage will always be visible.
Posted by: Minnesota Marty

Re: Steinway lock key - 01/27/13 09:17 PM

Jurgen - Then that's a truly dumb owner. Some people also kick in doors when they lose their keys. How about breaking glass to retrieve keys locked inside of cars. In any case, the damage is not caused by the lock.
Posted by: BDB

Re: Steinway lock key - 01/27/13 10:04 PM

If you try to make something foolproof, you learn very quickly how clever fools are.

In any case, if you use a weak lock on a heavy piece like a piano lid, you are just asking for trouble. You can rip out the lock by accident.
Posted by: Supply

Re: Steinway lock key - 01/27/13 10:28 PM

Owner, mover, student at a school, church musician, authorized or not.... whatever. It hardly matters once the damage is done. It can happen very quickly. And from time to time, it does.
Posted by: Sauter

Re: Steinway lock key - 02/20/13 11:53 AM

I found this picture of an original Steinway Hamburg key. It is not the same form of of the NY Steinway indeed

Do you know where can I buy one of this?
Posted by: Minnesota Marty

Re: Steinway lock key - 02/20/13 12:26 PM

You might try an email to S&S-Hamburg, or maybe some of our technican members in Europe.
Posted by: BDB

Re: Steinway lock key - 02/20/13 12:55 PM

Steinway probably sells them.
Posted by: Ed Foote

Re: Steinway lock key - 02/20/13 01:14 PM

Greetings,
I have seen one damaged Steinway lock in 34 years.
Regards,
Posted by: BDB

Re: Steinway lock key - 02/20/13 07:36 PM

Unlike all the other ones you have seen, that one was probably actually used.
Posted by: Ed Foote

Re: Steinway lock key - 02/21/13 09:53 AM

Originally Posted By: Ed Foote
Greetings,
I have seen one damaged Steinway lock in 34 years.
Regards,


Originally Posted By: BDB
Unlike all the other ones you have seen, that one was probably actually used.


Well, that is pretty clear evidence of deep, deep, ignorance of my business. 80% of the Steinways I deal with are used professionally in recording studios or on stages. Plus the 52 Steinways I maintain here at Vanderbilt.
Posted by: Nash. Piano Rescue

Re: Steinway lock key - 02/21/13 11:41 AM

Van Dykes Restorers Catalog has an antique Skeleton Key sampler with about 30 keys on it, which is pretty cheap. I bought one to use as a guide since we machine our own parts or just cast it.

While the samples won't have the fancy scroll work on it you should find one that works.