Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished!

Posted by: startover player

Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/06/07 10:34 PM

After about 6 months of searching, research, more searching and then decision time, I've taken delivery of a new... oh, wait... take a guess!
Posted by: Lon Varscsak

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/06/07 10:41 PM

Kitty Cat?
Posted by: Matthew Collett

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/06/07 10:49 PM

 Quote:
Originally posted by startover player:
After about 6 months of searching, research, more searching and then decision time, I've taken delivery of a new... oh, wait... take a guess! [/b]
A new racing car?

A new identity?

(We are allowed three guesses, aren't we?)

Gosh, this is tough. How about:

A new bass tuba? (I'm sure I must be getting warmer!)

A picture might be a useful clue ;\) .

Best wishes,
Matthew
Posted by: startover player

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/06/07 11:55 PM

First Clue

Posted by: ChatNoir

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 12:10 AM

Well, one thing is for sure. It is NOT an Estonia.
Posted by: Apostle

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 12:29 AM

What is it???

More pics please....
Posted by: vippo

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 04:23 AM

Some strange designer bookshelf? But not ery practical, since the biggest part of it is covered by this useless black board... \:D

I'm not really familiar with "skirt-peeping" sights of pianos, but could it be a Kawai?
Posted by: CozyWriter

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 07:25 AM

also not M&H

maybe if we keep guessing what it's not we can narrow it down.


And nobody say "Flugelhorn" and this point. \:\)
Posted by: MartinJ.

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 08:02 AM

Nordiska K?
Posted by: Thang

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 08:15 AM

My guess is she's about 5'1" - 5'3" , salt and pepper locks, soft to the touch with the sweetest voice you ever heard, and also about 400lbs..
Posted by: startover player

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 08:16 AM

It's not a toaster.

Clue #2:

Posted by: mdsdurango

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 08:41 AM

OH MY GOD!

It's a PIANO!!!!
Posted by: startover player

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 08:47 AM

Definitely a piano. Now, what's the brand?

Next Clue:

Posted by: TLuvva

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 08:51 AM

This is cruel.
Posted by: CozyWriter

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 09:02 AM

hmmmm

I'm totally guessing at the size of it but it looks to be around 6-1 from what I can see.


That makes it a Yamaha G3
Posted by: startover player

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 09:28 AM

Is there an 'E' in Yamaha? Must be 'grey' market.

Next Clue:

Posted by: MartinJ.

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 09:29 AM

From previous posts, Startover was looking at Brodmann, Vogel, and Nordiska.

My guess now is Vogel.
Posted by: Bob Newbie

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 09:46 AM

Its Elvis's piano...
Posted by: ftp

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 10:00 AM

It's El Matador!
Posted by: Thang

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 10:01 AM

Is's NOT the Bordmann 187...
Posted by: mdsdurango

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 10:02 AM

It's an ELLENBURG!
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 10:05 AM

"E"gads??
Posted by: Steve Cohen

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 10:10 AM

I got it. I got it. Ha Ha Ha.

It's a YEMAHA!
Posted by: startover player

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 10:13 AM

oh, I'll get you for the Ellyburg crack!
Posted by: startover player

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 10:17 AM

Now this should help...

Posted by: startover player

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 10:20 AM

Maybe I can get a hundred post out of this?

Hmmmmmmmmm... Should I add morning Easter snow pics that so nicely graced us in Virginia this morning?
Posted by: joyful noise

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 10:22 AM

Vogel !!!
Posted by: chopin952

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 10:27 AM

The music stand looks like Vogel from their website.
Posted by: M&HAAdriver

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 10:29 AM

Yup. Vogel. The distance between the E and the next letter, the music desk, no brass socks. It all fits. V177T
Posted by: CozyWriter

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 10:32 AM

DOH!

Ok it's not a Wagner because the typeface is wrong.

It's not a CozEy Writer stencil because he doesn't allow e-word finishes

The E is the correct typeface for Vogel (sanz the underline) which (also) doesn't rule out Schimmel!

But Schimmel has a darker interior.

So based on MarkJ's detective work, my second guess is a Vogel 177


This is more fun than Sew Duck Cue (as they call it down south.)
Posted by: startover player

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 10:34 AM

Dang. Game Over...







I think my 4-year-old has the same gene as the guy who wanted to see undersides of pianos a few months ago...

Maybe I can start a new thread called "Guess that Star Trek episode"... this thread has eerie similarities...
Posted by: startover player

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 10:41 AM

Just as much fun:

Digging out my old sheet music from the late 70s and 80s. Some real cringe-inducing music selections.

My favorite so far has been "Shakedown Cruise" by Jay Ferguson. I might even take a picture of some of the ones that had my wife and I laughing the hardest!

Guess I haven't played much past 80s retro...
Posted by: CozyWriter

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 10:48 AM

and I was JUST yesterday thinking that it's time to find a transcription of the 80s version of "The Locomotion."

It was featured in one of those K-Tel commercials of the era. (The commercial came up on my ipod as I was driving cross-state and I was "boogying" through Winston Salem, NC.)


Thanks for the tread, btw. That was the Most fun, while sitting here watching it sprinkle snow on azalea blossoms.
Posted by: John Citron

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 10:54 AM

Congratulations Starting Over! \:D \:D
We have another Vogel 177T owner!

John
Posted by: BB Player

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 10:57 AM

Congratulations on your new piano! Looks like there's another budding pianist crawling under the piano - it's important to know how it all works!
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 11:14 AM

Congrats on you Easter delivery...nice addition
Posted by: Monica K.

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 11:37 AM

Congratulations, startover player, and thanks for the fun thread! I'm just sorry I got to it too late to take a guess.

I love the photo of your son peeking under the piano. But, looking at the photo before that one, don't you think you're starting him off on some awfully advanced material? \:D
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 12:03 PM

Looks easier than this Harder??
Posted by: Starting Over

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 12:19 PM

John Citron said...

 Quote:
Congratulations Starting Over!
We have another Vogel 177T owner!
Yes, we do. But it's not me. Close, but not me. ;\)

Congratulations startover player. It's a beauty!
Posted by: ChatNoir

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 09:00 PM

Congratulations on the new bird, it looks lovely. And to all you funny people out there, you made me laugh with all your comments. There is a place in heaven for all of you!
Posted by: George K

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 10:44 PM

Congratulations! I've always had a warm spot for Vogels. Nice, nice piano and great pics as well!
Posted by: gabytu

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/07/07 10:57 PM

Well, I don't think it is a Kawyie. Gaby Tu
Posted by: steveb40

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/08/07 01:31 AM

Nice piano...That was a fun thread!
Posted by: Shoshana1224

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/08/07 01:51 PM

Petrof 5'3" ?
Posted by: Shoshana1224

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/08/07 01:53 PM

Whoops. Just saw the photos
Posted by: kokomo61

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/08/07 03:17 PM

If it's a Vogel, did you buy it locally? That would be Rick Jones in Beltsville or Piano Company in Leesburg....Let us know about the experience....
Posted by: startover player

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/08/07 03:54 PM

Richmond Piano was where I purchased.

Good experience.

Probably visited all local stores (5 total) three times each, having a variety of salesperson and test drive experiences. Some bad, some okay, some very nice.

Had a nice phone discussion with Kathy Harl when I first started. Braving the Northern Virginia and Maryland traffic was just not what I wanted to do for my skill level and needs. Maybe the next purchase!

Even considered the internet option (ebay, BHA, PSS). Just too much risk in the end and not the deal I was looking for... But all internet parties I contacted were helpful and appeared honest. I think one can buy an internet piano, but it is mostly the lower tier pianos where that makes sense for now.

Pianos I didn't try but would have liked to:

Estonia
Grotrian
Mason and Hamlin (new)
Bosendorfer

Pianos I liked but just could not see spending for my skill level and having two rowdy boys in the house:

Steinway
Schimmel

Pianos I considered at one time or another:

Kawai RX and GE series
Petrof
Brodmann
Young Chang (when I first started)
Boston

Things that were turn me away from doing business (I obviously had potential to buy at any local store):
- Salespeople that didn't know the industry. (No, Never heard of X? How bout Steinway? Heard of that one?)
- Salespeople that couldn't say anything nice about anything not on their floor. (My recommendation is to always stay positive and encourage the buyer to do research themselves to find out any negatives.)
- Salespeople that continued to call but wouldn't provide a reasonable starting price point. (If it's obvious I'm doing my homework, you should treat me accordingly. I'm not interested in paying MSRP unless it's not ever in stock... never found that an issue with pianos)
- Out of tune pianos.
- The shadow... can I just test drive today?

I started with a flexible budget and was honest with all salespeople that I was aiming for value as one of my factors. If I can get a good deal on something based on my research, my budget will flex. So I was estimating somewhere between $8K and $20K.

I also considered used, but my search usually ended up in finding poorly cared for or pounded daily pianos.

What swayed me to the Vogel? Well, my first play on them wasn't anything impressive at all actually. And I didn't like the bird on the fallboard (how picky is that?). But that's why you have to go back 2 or 3 times to play pianos.

The second round of playing Boston and Kawai was not so impressive. Yamaha never really impressed. Had high hopes for Petrof but was disappointed.

What was the Vogel difference?

1 - Quality/Consistency of Workmanship - I find a German (ok, made in Poland) design and quality to be superior. Kawai was pretty good on this factor.

2 - Tone - Found the few Vogels I played to be just the right balance of warmth and brightness.

3 - Size - a 5'11" is what I was looking for size wise (you do need to aim for 6ft or larger)

to be continued...
Posted by: startover player

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/08/07 08:32 PM

Continued:

In general, the workmanship was a cut above for the Vogel and I was able to work a decent deal on the price. The action was light enough for my preference and every one I played was pretty consistent regardless of how recently it had been tuned.

The dealer cut to the chase when I indicated I was ready to cut a deal and I had no need to look elsewhere.

So I didn't buy furniture, and I didn't buy something worthy of a piano party.

Or maybe I did?
Posted by: Monica K.

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/08/07 08:58 PM

 Quote:
Originally posted by startover player:
So I didn't buy furniture, and I didn't buy something worthy of a piano party.

Or maybe I did? [/b]
Well, I personally think anything with 88 keys is worthy of a piano party. \:\)

Sounds like you went about your search in a perfect manner and ended up with the right choice for you.
Posted by: turandot

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/08/07 11:09 PM

from Startover Player
 Quote:
- The shadow... can I just test drive today?
Amen!

Congratulations on having a beautiful new piano, and thanks for the very informative report on your shopping experience.
Posted by: kokomo61

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/09/07 11:33 AM

 Quote:
So I didn't buy furniture, and I didn't buy something worthy of a piano party.

Or maybe I did?
A Vogel is definitely worthy of showing off. It's a very nice piano, and I'm sure you'll be happy with it for many years to come. With a public gathering, others will get to benefit from your purchase as well....I'd vote for showing it off.
Posted by: MJinMN

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/09/07 11:46 AM

Congratulations, we look forward to your recordings next week...
Posted by: Helen&Ken

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/09/07 12:19 PM

Congratulations on your new piano,

We hope your Vogel gives your family years of musical pleasure. Great detective thread, but alas, we're too late to the chase.
Posted by: txpianist

Re: Delivered Today! Mission Accomplished! - 04/09/07 01:11 PM

Congratulations on your new Vogel.

You made a great choice. I bought a Vogel 177 Royal Intarsia 8 months ago and love it. I keep saying to myself "Wow! it sounds great" every time I play it. My Royal Intarsia Mahogany version looks incredible too.