The great piano scam

Posted by: Ralph

The great piano scam - 11/29/12 03:46 PM

Just came across this on youtube. Never heard of it before and found it fascination. Joyce Hatto.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSaGMaA3eA4
Posted by: BruceD

Re: The great piano scam - 11/29/12 03:51 PM

There was considerable discussion of this in the Pianist Corner back in 2007.

For example :

Hatto Hoax

Regards,
Posted by: wouter79

Re: The great piano scam - 11/29/12 04:11 PM

Nice find! But it's hard to believe that the experts don't recognise such copies... or is that video itself a hoax laugh
Posted by: Dave Horne

Re: The great piano scam - 11/29/12 04:13 PM

There was an article in the New Yorker as I recall.
Posted by: Ralph

Re: The great piano scam - 11/29/12 04:22 PM

I must have missed it the first time around on PW.
Posted by: Damon

Re: The great piano scam - 11/29/12 05:47 PM

I watched something about this awhile ago (maybe even this video) and though I was a little familiar with the story, didn't realize she released several recordings with fictitious orchestras. How did that avoid being noticed immediately?
Posted by: Damon

Re: The great piano scam - 11/29/12 05:50 PM


Here is one of the artists she ripped off.

Posted by: wr

Re: The great piano scam - 11/29/12 09:00 PM

Originally Posted By: BruceD
There was considerable discussion of this in the Pianist Corner back in 2007.

For example :

Hatto Hoax



And Hatto Redux
Posted by: wr

Re: The great piano scam - 11/29/12 09:03 PM

Originally Posted By: wouter79
Nice find! But it's hard to believe that the experts don't recognise such copies... or is that video itself a hoax laugh


Hamelin didn't recognize his own recording of some of the ChopGods when they turned up in the Hatto version. Granted, they were tweaked a little, but still, you'd think something would sound a bit familiar.
Posted by: jdhampton924

Re: The great piano scam - 12/09/12 02:14 AM

I think people on the whole just want to believe a story like that could be true. I mean it's tragic, with its own form of romance.
Posted by: Dave Horne

Re: The great piano scam - 12/09/12 04:13 AM

Here's the entire New Yorker magazine article from 2007.
Posted by: EJR

Re: The great piano scam - 12/09/12 05:30 AM

For those in the UK there's a dramadoc being shown by the Beeb on the 27th. I guess it shows the level of interest in this still. Here's a trailer....

Loving Miss Hatto
Posted by: Piano*Dad

Re: The great piano scam - 12/09/12 08:54 AM

Those old Hatto threads here at PW were quite good.
Posted by: Dave Horne

Re: The great piano scam - 12/09/12 09:12 AM

Originally Posted By: EJR
For those in the UK there's a dramadoc being shown by the Beeb on the 27th. I guess it shows the level of interest in this still. Here's a trailer....

Loving Miss Hatto


Thanks for posting this. I fortunately receive BBC1 (and BBC2) here in Holland.
Posted by: trigalg693

Re: The great piano scam - 12/09/12 10:38 AM

Originally Posted By: wr

Hamelin didn't recognize his own recording of some of the ChopGods when they turned up in the Hatto version. Granted, they were tweaked a little, but still, you'd think something would sound a bit familiar.


Yea, this is the weirdest thing, when I listen to another recording of something I've played, if they play it the "same way" I would take notice. That's pretty impressive modification.

I think if they are really "original" in some way, then I think they can be appreciated in their own way, with some caveats of course lol.