Alkan E-cital?

Posted by: Orange Soda King

Alkan E-cital? - 01/08/13 02:53 PM

Many of you may chuckle at the thought of this, but I think enough of his works are accessible enough to make a decent e-cital out of it, and I think it's both worth doing and much needed. Who would be interested in learning and submitting a piece or pieces by him for an e-cital? I already know I will do a couple, and they will be larger endeavors than I have done by him in the past. smile I think it would be fine if multiple people played the same work, too.

It would be open for streaming on November 30th, his date of birth, and I guess submissions would need to be submitted as late as a few days in advance.
Posted by: MarkH

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 01/08/13 03:02 PM

I would definitely be down for this! I'm planning on working up at least Le tambour bat aux champs, and I might possibly work up a selection of Esquisses as well. Good suggestion laugh
Posted by: Kuanpiano

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 01/08/13 03:21 PM

Yes!! If not an Alkan one, then a general one where we can all share stuff as a community.

I call the second movement of his Concerto!
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 01/08/13 04:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Kuanpiano

I call the second movement of his Concerto!


Oh, you stinker. I was going to learn that! Ah, but maybe I could take up the B major etude from Op. 35.
Posted by: DanS

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 01/08/13 11:20 PM

Great idea. I love the the G min Barcarolle, I call dibs!
Posted by: wr

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 01/09/13 04:24 AM

Ordinarily I would join in, but I'm having some temporary but fairly long and drawn-out physical stuff going on that affects my ability to practice (and does it in an maddeningly unpredictable way frown ), so I can't sign up for this one.
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 01/09/13 06:04 PM

Oh, so sorry to hear about that, wr frown I hope everything gets well in a timely fashion..
Posted by: wr

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 01/10/13 08:03 AM

Originally Posted By: Orange Soda King
Oh, so sorry to hear about that, wr frown I hope everything gets well in a timely fashion..


Thanks.
Posted by: Cinnamonbear

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 01/10/13 08:09 AM

Originally Posted By: Orange Soda King
Oh, so sorry to hear about that, wr frown I hope everything gets well in a timely fashion..


Me too.
Posted by: dolce sfogato

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 01/10/13 06:40 PM

no way, 'm doing it live all the way, op.39 8,9,10, pray..
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 01/10/13 06:42 PM

Originally Posted By: dolce sfogato
no way, 'm doing it live all the way, op.39 8,9,10, pray..


That makes me both smile and frown
Posted by: dolce sfogato

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 01/10/13 06:51 PM

never you mind, I'll be ok, but the audience?
Posted by: FSO

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 01/13/13 08:43 PM

Well you know I'll be game for a few of them at least...I mean, should the need come to it laugh I hope you're all well.....um, wr; get better, I leave you no alternative >:( laugh
Xxx
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 02/18/13 05:14 PM

BUMP. Anybody else? At least something? Mark H, Kuanpiano, DanS, and FSO has expressed interest, and I will definitely have things to contribute.

Also, I'm fine with adding anything that has to do with Verdi or Wagner since they also turn 200 this year (such as Verdi-Liszt Rigoletto, or Wagner-Liszt Liebestod, for example). Would that generate more interest? I don't care if more than one person plays the same piece.
Posted by: pianoloverus

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 02/18/13 05:48 PM

You should really contact MAH and ask him to submit something!
Posted by: argerichfan

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 02/18/13 07:52 PM

Jack Gibbons constantly posts new recordings on his Facebook/YT pages, and I should not be surprised if he resurrects some Alkan this year. (I need to ask him!) We could at least link them here...

I toyed with some of the Esquisses in college, but I'm just not sure I have the time these days to bring them back to snuff.

And if anyone cares to get really adventurous, they could learn Wagner's A major piano sonata. All things considered (especially the fact that he was all of 18) it is not a bad work, sometimes almost comically haunted by the ghosts of Weber and Beethoven.
Posted by: FSO

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 02/18/13 09:34 PM

If Gibbons and Hamelin get involved *do* let us know what they'll be doing; we wouldn't want anyone getting shown up now, would we? wink
Posted by: Thracozaag

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 02/18/13 10:07 PM

Marc will definitely NOT be playing the concerto unfortunately, heh.
Posted by: LadyChen

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 02/18/13 10:44 PM

I'd love to participate if there is anything in the realm of my abilities -- perhaps a few of the preludes.
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 02/18/13 11:03 PM

Originally Posted By: LadyChen
I'd love to participate if there is anything in the realm of my abilities -- perhaps a few of the preludes.


There are plenty, yes! And many others, too smile
Posted by: argerichfan

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 02/19/13 12:11 AM

Originally Posted By: Thracozaag
Marc will definitely NOT be playing the concerto unfortunately, heh.

So we will enjoy his two studio recordings this year.

Many thanks, Marc, Jack and of course John.
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 02/19/13 12:19 AM

Ronald Smith's first recording from 1970 (with unfortunate cuts in the first movement, but still...) is also unbelievable, Jason! You MUST especially hear the third movement!! This is NOT the more known recording from the complete Op. 39 set that he recorded in 1977; this is much rarer!

Thanks to my good Facebook friend for sharing this very rare treasure.
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/07/13 01:19 PM

Bumping this thread, because I really want to make this happen.

This is the plan (with helpful suggestions from a few members here):
November 30, Alkan E-cital!

1. I will create a box.com account specifically for this.
2. You all send me your recordings either via e-mail or a filesharing website like box.com. They will be due, say, three or four days before the 30th.
3. I download them all and organize them, then upload them onto the box.com account.
4. When November 30th comes, I then share the folder on Piano World for everybody to stream and download.

What do you all think? Who would be interested? It is perfectly fine if multiple people play the same piece. We may hear a ton of Op. 65 Barcarolles in G Minor, but that's okay.

Also, I would also open it up for anybody to post anything that has to do with Verdi and Wagner (such as Liszt transcriptions), to honor them for their bicentennials, and anything by Benjamin Britten for his centennial.
Posted by: WinsomeAllegretto

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/07/13 01:50 PM

Oh sweet. I'd love to play "Song of the Madwoman on the Seashore," if that's ok. It's my favorite. I've been waiting for an opportunity to play it.
Posted by: Dwscamel

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/07/13 03:52 PM

OSK, count me in! I'd be happy to perform an easier number from Esquisses, like no.7 smile.
Posted by: Brendan

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/07/13 04:35 PM

If I had six free months, I'd commit to the Sonata, but alas...
Posted by: Damon

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/07/13 04:37 PM

Who is this Alkan?
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/07/13 10:29 PM

Thanks for stickying this, moderators. smile

Brendan, there are more manageable works to pick that still have substance that may interest you. smile "Salut, Centre du Pauvre!" Op. 45, "Super flumina Babylonis" Op. 52, "Capriccio alla soldatesca" Op. 50, Haydn "Surprise" Symphony 2nd movement transcription (incredibly faithful to the original!), Fantasie in A-flat major for the left hand Op. 76 No. 1, one of the longer Op. 35 etudes...

...If any of them pique your curiosity.
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/07/13 10:31 PM

List of perfomers and pieces:

Orange Soda King:
-Barcarolles, complete (Op. 38, 65, 67, 70, Esquisse Op. 63, No. 12 "Barcarollette" )
-Various Preludes, Esquisses, Chants, and Impromptus (to be decided upon later)
-Etudes Op. 35 Nos. 3, 5, and 11.

WinsomeAllegretto:
-Prelude in A flat minor Op. 31, No. 8 "La chanson de la folle au bord de la mer"

Dwscamel:
-Esquisse Op. 63, No. 8 "Pseudo-Naivete"
Posted by: Dwscamel

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/07/13 11:05 PM

My mistake! I meant I would play Number 8, "Pseudo-Naivete".

Sorry about the mix-up.
Posted by: Kuanpiano

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/07/13 11:30 PM

I'll probably commit to something by mid-September, but I've got my eyes on the second movement of the Concerto, or Aime-moi!

(I need to grow two more fingers on my left hand!)
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/07/13 11:41 PM

Okay, Allan! Sounds fantastic!

And Dwscamel, I edited the post. smile
Posted by: D. S. F.

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/08/13 02:24 AM

Mega points to the one who arranges a performance of Alkan's "Funeral March on the Death of a Parrot" for four-part chorus, three bassoons, and oboe.
Posted by: wr

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/08/13 05:39 AM

You can put me down for the Menuet, op. 51, no. 2. I'll probably get one or two other little pieces recorded, but don't know exactly what right now (are duplicates of what others submit okay?).
Posted by: FSO

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/08/13 06:49 AM

Well, of course you can count me in...though for what I couldn't accurately say; Esquisses 4, 17, 43, 46, the Laus Deo and last movement of the grande sonata I'll be bold enough to say I'll do (I can redo Esquisses 1, 18, 21 and 26 too, if you fancy)...um...Esquisses 28 and 29, possibly, if I pull my finger out...I don't know laugh Um...I'll definitely do some of the above...it depends on how much *quality* means to you laugh I hope you're all smashingly well, of course...and thank you, OSK, for allowing affairs such as these to breathe.
Xxx
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/08/13 09:46 AM

Originally Posted By: wr
You can put me down for the Menuet, op. 51, no. 2. I'll probably get one or two other little pieces recorded, but don't know exactly what right now (are duplicates of what others submit okay?).


Okay! And yes, duplicates are allowed. smile

FSO, we will appreciate whatever you have to offer. That is a great selection of Esquisses. smile
Posted by: Alkanaut

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/09/13 10:56 AM

My kid is learning op. 65 no. 6 (here they come grin )
I have a feeling that he will be able to play a decent take by Nov 30, so I guess we could participate...
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/09/13 01:04 PM

Wonderful! Will add. I'll just list it as your username for now even though it's actually your kid playing. smile

Orange Soda King:
-Barcarolles, complete (Op. 38, 65, 67, 70, Esquisse Op. 63, No. 12 "Barcarollette" )
-Various Preludes, Esquisses, Chants, and Impromptus (to be decided upon later)
-Etudes Op. 35 Nos. 3, 5, and 11.

WinsomeAllegretto:
-Prelude in A flat minor Op. 31, No. 8 "La chanson de la folle au bord de la mer"

Dwscamel:
-Esquisse Op. 63, No. 8 "Pseudo-Naivete"

wr:
-Menuet Op. 51, No. 2

Alkanaut:
-Barcarolle Op. 65, No. 6

Sorcerer88:
-Troisième recueil de chants Op. 65
II. Espirits follets, prestissimo
III. Canon
V. Horace et Lydie

MarkH
-Le Tambour bat aux champs (Esquisse) Op. 50bis.

Also, I've got some people that aren't on the forum interested in participating. Will add more info about that later.
Posted by: MarkH

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/09/13 04:50 PM

I still want to commit to at least Le tambour bat aux champs. Maybe some other things as time permits...
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/09/13 05:52 PM

Originally Posted By: MarkH
I still want to commit to at least Le tambour bat aux champs. Maybe some other things as time permits...


Should I put you down for Le tambour bat aux champs? smile
Posted by: Sorcerer88

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/09/13 07:04 PM

Awesome! I'll contribute the Alkan pieces of my programme. I'll have the honour of playing these in a church in Paris this year smile maybe i can even use the live recordings, if there's not too much reverb (and i don't screw up :D)

Troisième recueil de chants Op. 65 - II. Esprits follets, prestissimo
Troisième recueil de chants Op. 65 ; III. Canon
Troisième recueil de chants Op. 65 ; V. Horace et Lydie

(Hamelin added the set to his 2007 Alkan Concerto CD, it's really a gem)

by the way, No. 6 in the set is the Barcarolle in G
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/09/13 07:07 PM

Great, thanks Sorcerer! I edited the most recent list to add you in. smile
Posted by: MarkH

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/09/13 09:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Orange Soda King
Originally Posted By: MarkH
I still want to commit to at least Le tambour bat aux champs. Maybe some other things as time permits...


Should I put you down for Le tambour bat aux champs? smile


Yes please.
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/09/13 10:37 PM

Originally Posted By: MarkH
Originally Posted By: Orange Soda King
Originally Posted By: MarkH
I still want to commit to at least Le tambour bat aux champs. Maybe some other things as time permits...


Should I put you down for Le tambour bat aux champs? smile


Yes please.


Great! Edited the post above with the program.
Posted by: kapelli

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/21/13 03:45 PM

Will anyone play Festin d'Esope? smile
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/21/13 04:08 PM

Do you want to? smile
Posted by: kapelli

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/21/13 04:47 PM

Unfortunately, it's far above my actual skills cry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB8FiGSwrNU

I recorded it 7 years before going on two months holidays so that's why it remained unfinished. SInce then I didn't record anything.
Posted by: kapelli

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/22/13 01:09 PM

OrangeSodaKing,
Good news: Petites Fantaisies op 41 nr 1 (assez gravement)
so you can add me to the e-cital whome yippie

There are still two left from this op. 41 if anybody interested wink

If anybody has a better score than is on the IMSLP please let mi know, that one is horrible to read.

And - I have probably all Alkan piano sheet music on my computer, so if you need something just PM me please.
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/22/13 01:57 PM

Thanks, kapelli!! Here is the updated list:

Orange Soda King:
-Barcarolles, complete (Op. 38, 65, 67, 70, Esquisse Op. 63, No. 12 "Barcarollette" )
-Various Preludes, Esquisses, Chants, and Impromptus (to be decided upon later)
-Etudes Op. 35 Nos. 3, 5 (I'm gonna ditch 11 for now)

WinsomeAllegretto:
-Prelude in A flat minor Op. 31, No. 8 "La chanson de la folle au bord de la mer"

Dwscamel:
-Esquisse Op. 63, No. 8 "Pseudo-Naivete"

wr:
-Menuet Op. 51, No. 2

Alkanaut:
-Barcarolle Op. 65, No. 6

Sorcerer88:
-Troisième recueil de chants Op. 65
II. Espirits follets, prestissimo
III. Canon
V. Horace et Lydie

MarkH
-Le Tambour bat aux champs (Esquisse) Op. 50bis.

kapelli
-Petites Fantaisie Op. 41, No. 1

Also, I've got some people that aren't on the forum interested in participating. Will add more info about that later.
Posted by: D. S. F.

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/24/13 03:42 AM

I spent some time today deciding whether it is feasible to do the full concerto from op. 39 for November. My feeling is if I'm ever going to play it, I better play it now, so I'm going for it.
I uploaded a fragment here: http://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=51904.0

I would also like to do the 3rd movement of the Grand Sonata. I just can't get it out of my head.
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/24/13 12:11 PM

Originally Posted By: D. S. F.
I spent some time today deciding whether it is feasible to do the full concerto from op. 39 for November. My feeling is if I'm ever going to play it, I better play it now, so I'm going for it.
I uploaded a fragment here: http://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=51904.0

I would also like to do the 3rd movement of the Grand Sonata. I just can't get it out of my head.


Wow!! So you want me to put you down for the full concerto for solo piano (Op. 39 Nos. 8-10) and the 3rd movement (A Happy Marriage) of the Grande Sonate Op. 33?

The fragment sounds good smile
Posted by: FSO

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/24/13 03:22 PM

Before I forget.....in accordance with the other thread; how much are we allowed to interpret? I mean...of course it's meant to be Alkan but...well, I can't just keep rephrasing it; how strictly would you like the score to be observed?
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/24/13 03:47 PM

Originally Posted By: FSO
Before I forget.....in accordance with the other thread; how much are we allowed to interpret? I mean...of course it's meant to be Alkan but...well, I can't just keep rephrasing it; how strictly would you like the score to be observed?


Well, it's not my place to tell you what to do. Just you offering to record those pieces for the e-cital is way more important to me.
Posted by: FSO

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/24/13 04:05 PM

Well you can't trick me into that hornet's nest (not me ^>^ )...um...listening to his/her recording, I'm sure D. S. F. will be ready...of course, his/her word means more in that than mine laugh Good to know, though, that you won't be terribly disappointed by some de-Alkanisation...*cough*
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/24/13 04:11 PM

Originally Posted By: FSO
Well you can't trick me into that hornet's nest (not me ^>^ )...um...listening to his/her recording, I'm sure D. S. F. will be ready...of course, his/her word means more in that than mine laugh Good to know, though, that you won't be terribly disappointed by some de-Alkanisation...*cough*


OH WAIT!!! I'm so sorry!! I thought you were D. S. F. instead of FSO!! Hahaha, oops, let me edit my post above... I'm so sorry :P

But like I said, I won't tell you how to play the piano; I'll just be happy that you are contributing to this. I don't personally see the point in changing a composition, but that's my opinion.
Posted by: D. S. F.

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/24/13 05:55 PM

Originally Posted By: FSO
Well you can't trick me into that hornet's nest (not me ^>^ )...um...listening to his/her recording, I'm sure D. S. F. will be ready...of course, his/her word means more in that than mine laugh Good to know, though, that you won't be terribly disappointed by some de-Alkanisation...*cough*


Just to clarify, D = David. Lol.

Alkan's knowledge of the piano and his daring to write powerfully to the full extremities of both registers kind of make it silly to consider the types of embellishments that are the subject of the "is the score sacred" thread. There is that B sharp toward the end of the finale which is tempting to drop down an octave as Hamelin does...but Alkan has experience writing down there when he wants it, and he does drop the next C sharp down right after that...so wouldn't he know his composition best? (Kind of like the third hammer blow of the Mahler 6th Symphony which some against the composer's intentions restore.)

On the other matter, not all of Alkan's scores are as demanding as the Sonata and the etudes, so it may be good to do some exploring of scores to find some of his music you'd not have to simplify. Or in my case, my hands are rather small, so I sometimes tastefully rearrange something which is hardly ever perceived as a change. Usually the music itself reveals where you can and can't do that successfully (I think of the 10ths in Szymanowski's 3rd sonata, which he actually did provide an ossia...yet no, it is not the same atmosphere at all...).
Posted by: FSO

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/24/13 06:22 PM

What some find difficult, others find easy. Personally, I find it terribly difficult to play scores as written; if I tried and tried, practiced away, I could do it...but the results, I find, are always inferior for me for having had that forced-ness laid upon them...I mean, um, I wish I could actually do what I'm meant to, but I just can't. Hence, my question; sure, you can't tell me to how to play Twister, but if I turn up at *your* house I should play by the rules *you* set. So; I shan't feel ashamed if, upon receiving my less than accurate efforts, Sodey, you discard them in the name of preserving Alkan's impeccable writing. Because truly, it is; um...I'm unabashed about the fact I'm an inferior pianist...to call me such would be to degrade what constitutes pianism, but at least I know I can offer *something* others can't; my interpretation. At the end of the day, um, if it's unacceptably poor then so be it; I'll have enjoyed the journey ^>^
Xxx
Posted by: D. S. F.

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/24/13 07:03 PM

I'm a little confused, and I hope I didn't offend you, FSO. I think it's possible I am totally misunderstanding what you mean by de-alkanization and altering the score.

I love that Alkan is having his day on this site (or that we're having an Alkan day). I certainly hope you can contribute. I hope I can contribute too. I might fall on my face and have to pull out of my high intention...it's part of the reason I announced it, to give a reason to keep pursuing it. In the end we build this thing together, and it will be great. I will love to hear you, especially knowing it will be a very personal, creative expression in whatever you choose.
Posted by: FSO

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/24/13 07:46 PM

Offend? Oh my dear Deffles (it's your name now...>.> laugh ), it's sweet of you to concern but the very act of worrying about such a thing makes you so far from being *capable* of offending me laugh Darn...why is everyone so lovely today? ^>^ My, perhaps, less than clear (well, inarguable lack of clarity smile ) wording may have extracted you from the meaning, it may not. I meant, simply, that some of the pieces I'll play may be at half tempo, or lower, um, notes may appear, the rhythms may or may not be even and, undoubtedly, they'll not quite be what's notated...a drummer friend of mine once told me, years ago, that I was the only person he knew who could bend rhythm so out of shape one way and back another without it seeming out of place; um...I never really tried to play pieces "normally" when I was younger, I more tried to map the emotions I felt into the music...I didn't listen to music until after I played the piano...I mean, um, without that framework initially in mind, you're bound to just be rubbish as you develop laugh But still...it'll be okay; it'll at least be new laugh Purists hate impressionists and, nowadays, impressionism is kind of in the slumps...still, I'll definitely be contributing a few bits...um...frankly, I can't wait to hear your efforts, should they flower; I was very impressed with your Pianostreet uploads...oh! I'll be doing the final movement to the sonata so, I mean, um, if, you know, that horrifically difficult, lilting, lethally loquacious monstrosity of a concerto doesn't keep you swamped too much it'd be a true pleasure to hear your third movement...it truly is beautiful...a far departure from those tragic soft sighs in the first movement, but perhaps still as glimmering. Anyway! Um...rambling over; thank you, of course you didn't offend me, I listen forward to hearing you and I'm sure you'll do great! And I hope you're well and things, you know? Be well, I insist grin
Xxxx
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/24/13 07:47 PM

FSO, in the end, you are the one making the recording and volunteering to participate in this e-cital, so I'll accept any recording of Alkan you make. smile
Posted by: FSO

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/24/13 08:22 PM

That's a bold claim grin Sorry, thank you; I'll stop being a ribbon in the wind now and, likely, start fussing over something else...pfft laugh I greatly look forward to hearing all of you play; especially if you manage to bring a similar degree of sensitivity as was afforded in the Unsung Heroes...thingy laugh
Xxx
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/25/13 06:23 PM

Adding D. S. F. to the list:

Orange Soda King:
-Barcarolles, complete (Op. 38, 65, 67, 70, Esquisse Op. 63, No. 12 "Barcarollette" )
-Various Preludes, Esquisses, Chants, and Impromptus (to be decided upon later)
-Etudes Op. 35 Nos. 3, 5 (I'm gonna ditch 11 for now)

WinsomeAllegretto:
-Prelude in A flat minor Op. 31, No. 8 "La chanson de la folle au bord de la mer"

Dwscamel:
-Esquisse Op. 63, No. 8 "Pseudo-Naivete"

wr:
-Menuet Op. 51, No. 2

Alkanaut:
-Barcarolle Op. 65, No. 6

Sorcerer88:
-Troisième recueil de chants Op. 65
II. Espirits follets, prestissimo
III. Canon
V. Horace et Lydie

MarkH
-Le Tambour bat aux champs (Esquisse) Op. 50bis.

kapelli
-Petites Fantaisie Op. 41, No. 1

D. S. F.
-Concerto for Solo Piano Op. 39 Nos. 8-10 (wow!)
-Grande Sonate Op. 33, III. 40 ans
Posted by: LadyChen

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/26/13 11:57 PM

I would like to participate, however am not familiar with Alkan. I've just ordered a copy of the 25 preludes and will choose something from there once it arrives.
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/27/13 11:01 AM

Originally Posted By: LadyChen
I would like to participate, however am not familiar with Alkan. I've just ordered a copy of the 25 preludes and will choose something from there once it arrives.


Wonderful!! I'm sure you will find something you like. smile
Posted by: LadyChen

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/27/13 03:53 PM

Me too, but the shipping time is going to be 3-4 weeks frown.
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 07/27/13 09:46 PM

Originally Posted By: LadyChen
Me too, but the shipping time is going to be 3-4 weeks frown.


In the meantime, browse from IMSLP. The edition you bought is probably better than what's on IMSLP, but you can get a good taste there. You can also listen to them on YouTube or maybe Spotify. Laurent Martin and Olli Mustonen both have good recordings of them.
Posted by: MusicDoc

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 08/09/13 08:52 AM

Nobody going to try Le Preux? I pray every day the MAH will record it!
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 08/09/13 10:30 AM

Honestly, it's not my favorite work by Alkan. It does paint the picture of a knight very well and vividly, but it's rather four-square in my opinion. But if anybody wants to play it, more power to them. smile
Posted by: LadyChen

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 08/11/13 06:49 PM

My book shipped and should be here next week! Now if only I had a piano (the action is being rebuilt)...

But I will definitely spend some time reading through the preludes on the piano at my church! Can't wait! (I love reading new music.. practicing, not so much.)
Posted by: Renjer

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 09/02/13 01:05 AM

I don't know whether I should volunteer to play the Minuet op 39 no 6. I have been practicing for some time now, and still have not gotten it up to an acceptable standard. Alkan's pieces are really quite difficult.

I could also pick the Salut de cendre but I'm just intimidated by all those arpeggiations at the end. Any tips to pull this off successfully?
Posted by: Michael Sayers

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 09/02/13 03:01 AM

Does anyone know what the exact deadline is? I'll probably be doing some recording before then and am considering commitment to an Alkan work which can be included. To use some of the time to record Alkan I'll need to know in advance if not taking heed of how the work is normally made to sound and not keeping to the details of the music as published are issues that could result in exclusion.

(as with not entering piano competitions as a teenager, there would have been no reason to prepare recordings and pay a $50 fee just to be told that the interpretations and tempos are unconventional, please try again next year!)

M.
Posted by: FSO

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 09/02/13 07:02 AM

Michael; I've been given the go ahead, so I'm really quite sure you shall too laugh OSK is rather...forgiving in those aspects; he doesn't believe it's up to him to tell others how to play....so...um...it'll be fine? laugh
Xxx
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 09/02/13 09:00 AM

Deadline? How about November 25.

The Menuet is difficult... Gotta practice those octaves and leaps slowly!
Posted by: Michael Sayers

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 09/02/13 10:33 AM

Thanks FSO and OSK! Now MJS will need to go through a lot of Op. and no. designations to make a decision.

Having had harsh experiences with professional musicians in the past I needed to ask about the interpretative side of things . . .


M.
Posted by: Renjer

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 09/02/13 11:04 AM

Ok then, I'll be playing Menuet op 39 no 6. The most difficult part for me is not really the octaves, but the part in the Trio where it is marked "delicatamente". The notes from then on are most confusing. I'll still give it a try though.
Posted by: Michael Sayers

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 09/03/13 12:55 AM

Originally Posted By: Renjer
Ok then, I'll be playing Menuet op 39 no 6. The most difficult part for me is not really the octaves, but the part in the Trio where it is marked "delicatamente". The notes from then on are most confusing. I'll still give it a try though.


If you do the Op. 39 No. 6 and I do the Allegro moderato (Op. 39 No. 4) that would only leave two movements of the Symphony needing to be done . . . I played through it this morning but can't commit until there are some details about when/where I'll be recording going forward and how frequently (every Saturday would be nice but I don't want to wear out my welcome as the kyrka patiently waits for a recital!).

I am sure you can manage the delicatamente section . . . it is almost three months between now and Nov 25, and this isn't a competition, it is for purely personal enjoyment, so things don't have to be perfect smile

One can just chart the available practice hours for it, count the bars and allocate them for the days and weeks and really focus in. If something isn't perfect this is okay!


M.
Posted by: Renjer

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 09/03/13 04:30 AM

Originally Posted By: Michael Sayers


If you do the Op. 39 No. 6 and I do the Allegro moderato (Op. 39 No. 4) that would only leave two movements of the Symphony needing to be done . . . I played through it this morning but can't commit until there are some details about when/where I'll be recording going forward and how frequently (every Saturday would be nice but I don't want to wear out my welcome as the kyrka patiently waits for a recital!).



I look forward to hearing your version of Allegro moderato. I have actually tried playing this but can't get past the part where the music suddenly changes into all those semiquavers in the right hand (bar 151 onwards).

I've actually also attempted op39 no 5 before but I just could not play the staccatos and at the same time having to bring out the melody. The piece looks easy on the surface until I actually attempt it. And Finale op 39 no 7 looks really difficult due to the fast tempo.
Posted by: TheHappyMoron

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 09/13/13 12:28 PM

I would love to learn Alkan's chant op 38 1 in e but i don't think the tendonitis in my wrists will allow me to finish it by November.
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 09/13/13 05:39 PM

Hmm.. Is there another piece by him that would be less stress that you could play? Sorry to hear about your wrist. I hope it gets better soon.
Posted by: TheHappyMoron

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 09/14/13 06:15 AM

It's been about eight months now so i don't see it getting better anytime soon! perhaps i can learn something of Alkan in time, i'll have to find a piece to play. I've always been a tad apprehensive about posting music on pianoworld because people usually like to tell you how bad you are and what you're doing wrong! But i suppose a simple Alkan recital can't hurt and the poor guy could certainly do with the recognition!!
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 09/14/13 12:37 PM

Originally Posted By: TheHappyMoron
It's been about eight months now so i don't see it getting better anytime soon! perhaps i can learn something of Alkan in time, i'll have to find a piece to play. I've always been a tad apprehensive about posting music on pianoworld because people usually like to tell you how bad you are and what you're doing wrong! But i suppose a simple Alkan recital can't hurt and the poor guy could certainly do with the recognition!!


I know what you mean, and you have to just ignore those people... That's the internet for you; you'll find that anywhere.

But I greatly encourage you to play something by Alkan smile there are countless wonderful small works that would not aggravate your tendinitis.
Posted by: TheHappyMoron

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 09/17/13 07:12 PM

I will have a listen through some tomorrow and let you know if I think I can do one. I'd like to get involved if I can.
Posted by: TheHappyMoron

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 09/18/13 05:05 PM

i found a seemingly simple one called la visions which i'll give a crack if no one minds - i'll have a go when i have a piano to play and see if it doesn't turn out too bad grin
Posted by: Michael Sayers

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 09/22/13 07:56 AM

I want to be sure that everyone knows the Op.39 No. 4 still is up for grabs. Due to recording uncertainties I haven't committed to it. Even if I had committed to it, and if another pianist were to want to do it, I would be happy to step aside and record a different Alkan work!


M.
Posted by: Polyphonist

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 09/23/13 12:34 AM

Wow, I see someone's doing the full Concerto and a movement from the Sonata. Can't wait to hear how he does with that. From what I've heard of him playing it, it sounds pretty good. grin
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 09/23/13 06:01 PM

Orange Soda King:
-Barcarolles, complete (Op. 38, 65, 67, 70, Esquisse Op. 63, No. 12 "Barcarollette" )
-Various Preludes, Esquisses, Chants, and Impromptus (to be decided upon later)
-Etudes Op. 35 Nos. 3, 5 (I'm gonna ditch 11 for now)

WinsomeAllegretto:
-Prelude in A flat minor Op. 31, No. 8 "La chanson de la folle au bord de la mer"

Dwscamel:
-Esquisse Op. 63, No. 8 "Pseudo-Naivete"

wr:
-Menuet Op. 51, No. 2

Alkanaut:
-Barcarolle Op. 65, No. 6

Sorcerer88:
-Troisième recueil de chants Op. 65
II. Espirits follets, prestissimo
III. Canon
V. Horace et Lydie

MarkH
-Le Tambour bat aux champs (Esquisse) Op. 50bis.

kapelli
-Petites Fantaisie Op. 41, No. 1

D. S. F.
-Concerto for Solo Piano Op. 39 Nos. 8-10 (wow!)
-Grande Sonate Op. 33, III. 40 ans

Renjer: I can put you down for the Menuet (from Symphony) Op. 39, No. 6?

TheHappyMoron: should I put you down for "La Vision" (No. 1 from Esquisses Op. 63)? I think when you get ahold of a piano, you could work it up into recording shape really quickly.
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 09/23/13 06:06 PM

Btw, just reminding, it's perfectly fine for multiple people to play the same work.
Posted by: Renjer

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 09/25/13 08:43 AM

Originally Posted By: Orange Soda King
Orange Soda King:
-Barcarolles, complete (Op. 38, 65, 67, 70, Esquisse Op. 63, No. 12 "Barcarollette" )
-Various Preludes, Esquisses, Chants, and Impromptus (to be decided upon later)
-Etudes Op. 35 Nos. 3, 5 (I'm gonna ditch 11 for now)

Renjer: I can put you down for the Menuet (from Symphony) Op. 39, No. 6?

TheHappyMoron: should I put you down for "La Vision" (No. 1 from Esquisses Op. 63)? I think when you get ahold of a piano, you could work it up into recording shape really quickly.


Yes, of course. I'll try to do the best I can (though, still making many slips here and there).

I would also have to submit my piece early, unfortunately, because I will be going off on a trip on the 3rd week of October. And then I'll have very little chance to play the piano.
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 09/25/13 10:24 AM

An early submission is okay, Renjer. And I'm sure you will play it just fine. smile

Have a great trip, too!
Posted by: wr

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 10/01/13 07:06 AM

OSK, is there is going to be a place to put in a little program note or comment about the piece(s) we submit?
Posted by: jeffreyjones

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 10/01/13 01:03 PM

I'm tempted to do Festin d'Esope. I think in the past couple years I've gotten my nerves sorted out enough to consider playing something like this. I'm performing Mozart K. 488 on November 23rd though, so it's a question mark.
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 10/01/13 07:26 PM

Originally Posted By: wr
OSK, is there is going to be a place to put in a little program note or comment about the piece(s) we submit?


Hmm... that is something I will think about how to best do over the next few days. For now, let's say that when you send me the recording, type a little something to go along with it, and I'll have figured out the best way to present that along with their respective recordings.

Originally Posted By: jeffreyjones
I'm tempted to do Festin d'Esope. I think in the past couple years I've gotten my nerves sorted out enough to consider playing something like this. I'm performing Mozart K. 488 on November 23rd though, so it's a question mark.


You should try it! A couple of the variations are really nasty, but I've seen some of your previous videos and think you could do it. Good luck with the Mozart, too. Your performance date is a day before my birthday! (My 21st, I may add.)
Posted by: jeffreyjones

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 10/02/13 05:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Orange Soda King
Originally Posted By: jeffreyjones
I'm tempted to do Festin d'Esope. I think in the past couple years I've gotten my nerves sorted out enough to consider playing something like this. I'm performing Mozart K. 488 on November 23rd though, so it's a question mark.


You should try it! A couple of the variations are really nasty, but I've seen some of your previous videos and think you could do it. Good luck with the Mozart, too. Your performance date is a day before my birthday! (My 21st, I may add.)


So I pulled out my old, beaten Lewenthal edition of "The Piano Music of Alkan," which opens with Festin d'Esope, and listened to him play it again. Unbelievable tempo, great characterization, some surprising misreadings considering what a labor of love his Alkan edition was, but no matter. Then I turned to the inner cover and discovered where Marc-Andre Hamelin had signed it for me at Oberlin. I'm sure he would have wanted me to play this.
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 11/02/13 11:56 PM

Hey guys!! How's everything for this shaping up? smile
Posted by: wr

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 11/03/13 02:12 AM

Originally Posted By: Orange Soda King
Hey guys!! How's everything for this shaping up? smile


In the next day or two, I'll do some test recording to see how things sound.

Besides the minuet listed for me, I'll probably also do Désir, and the Andantinetto, which is the second of the op. 70 Chants (that's the piece with two simultaneous time signatures(!) - 2/4 in the upper staff and 3/4 in the lower). I'll have a better idea after doing the test runs.
Posted by: FSO

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 11/03/13 01:05 PM

I've a few recorded; a lot left to go laugh wr, it's definitely good to see you be affirmative; given where you were last year frown How about you, OSK?
Xxx
Posted by: Polyphonist

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 11/03/13 01:13 PM

When is the deadline? The end of this month, right? I can probably record a little something. Any suggestions for good Alkan miniatures that aren't insanely fast finger-twisters?
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 11/04/13 10:49 AM

Originally Posted By: Polyphonist
When is the deadline? The end of this month, right? I can probably record a little something. Any suggestions for good Alkan miniatures that aren't insanely fast finger-twisters?


The 25th prelude from Op. 31 is really good, as well as the 49th Esquisse from Op. 63. If you want something a notch or two above that, how about the first Chant from Op. 38 first suite?

FSO, it's coming along well so far. smile
Posted by: Alkanaut

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 11/04/13 01:26 PM

Nicholas has already recorded a few good takes of the Barcarolle, we are going to have a couple more recording sessions and then we'll pick the best one. The WAV file is about 80MB. OSK, would you like me to convert it to MP3? I can send you the link to the audio file at my Google Drive when it is ready.
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 11/04/13 09:40 PM

Alkanaut, you can send me either the WAV file or the MP3 file. I can work with either format.
Posted by: FSO

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 11/13/13 03:01 PM

OSK, I have two questions (that are relevant laugh ); firstly you say you can work with either format but what would you prefer? I can upload Youtube videos or send you WAV files (or convert them to MP3...I'm sure the internet will tell me how)...um...whatever you want, whatever's easiest for *you*...so...? Secondly; I know you've been lenient thus-far, but what about duplicates? I mean, I have quite a few interpretations of one piece; what's your opinion on...well, being so inconsistent? Should I just pick one or do them all?
Xxx
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 11/14/13 12:09 PM

You can send me WAV or mp3 files. Whichever is easiest for you.

And you should pick your favorite take of the piece. smile
Posted by: Alkanaut

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 11/19/13 10:13 AM

Hi OSK -

You've got a PM... cool
Posted by: D. S. F.

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 11/26/13 01:05 AM

Tomorrow is my lone shot at recording anything before the 30th. It should at least be a rough reading of the concerto. Unfortunately I've hardly touched the Grand Sonata movement, but will read it anyway and have the Allelujah as a backup/edition. How's everyone else doing?
Posted by: hreichgott

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 11/27/13 04:34 PM

I look forward to listening to this one! smile
(my plate is too full to record anything for this project at this point.)
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 11/28/13 05:31 PM

Originally Posted By: hreichgott
I look forward to listening to this one! smile
(my plate is too full to record anything for this project at this point.)


And I look forward to putting it together!! On top of helping to host an international choir festival/competition tomorrow-Sunday, this will go live hopefully midnight of November 30th, Eastern Time Zone (New York's time zone).

Thanks everybody who has submitted so far! Anybody else with submissions, please keep them coming! smile
Posted by: theholygideons

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 11/29/13 03:30 PM

Is it too late to submit something?
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 11/29/13 09:33 PM

Originally Posted By: theholygideons
Is it too late to submit something?


Nope!! In fact, I'll continue accepting submissions even if they're a day or two late.

On to some bad news... The audio file of my recordings corrupted :'( I'm working on it, but I'll probably be the latest of them all. I'd just re-record tomorrow, but I have obligations all weekend...
Posted by: wr

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 11/30/13 07:20 AM

Originally Posted By: D. S. F.
Tomorrow is my lone shot at recording anything before the 30th. It should at least be a rough reading of the concerto. Unfortunately I've hardly touched the Grand Sonata movement, but will read it anyway and have the Allelujah as a backup/edition. How's everyone else doing?


Just listened to the first movement of the concerto (the only thing from the e-cital I've heard so far), and now that I've gathered my jaw up from the floor, I have to say, even if it is rough, as you say, it is remarkable in many ways. I hope you continue working on it and record it again when it's a bit more settled. But still - I am very familiar with the score, and know there's some amazing stuff you are doing with it already, not just technically, but with the musicality and spirit of the piece. Wow!!
Posted by: hreichgott

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 11/30/13 11:21 AM

Enjoying this so far. I especially liked "Odi profanum" from the Esquisses, both the piece and the thoughtful performance, thanks FSO.
I do not seem to be able to download video -- I just get a popup asking me to subscribe to box.com?
Posted by: Orange Soda King

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 11/30/13 02:53 PM

Hmm.. Idk if Box streams video. The video is also on YouTube, so I will link it.
Posted by: Alkanaut

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 11/30/13 04:55 PM

OSK, thanks for putting this all together! I was able to listen almost until the end, but the streaming has just stopped and the message says that the user who is hosting the files is out of bandwidth! Does anyone else have this problem?
Posted by: D. S. F.

Re: Alkan E-cital? - 11/30/13 05:28 PM

Originally Posted By: wr
Originally Posted By: D. S. F.
Tomorrow is my lone shot at recording anything before the 30th. It should at least be a rough reading of the concerto. Unfortunately I've hardly touched the Grand Sonata movement, but will read it anyway and have the Allelujah as a backup/edition. How's everyone else doing?


Just listened to the first movement of the concerto (the only thing from the e-cital I've heard so far), and now that I've gathered my jaw up from the floor, I have to say, even if it is rough, as you say, it is remarkable in many ways. I hope you continue working on it and record it again when it's a bit more settled. But still - I am very familiar with the score, and know there's some amazing stuff you are doing with it already, not just technically, but with the musicality and spirit of the piece. Wow!!


Thanks a lot. I've scheduled a live performance for February, so I'll be doing a lot more work on it in the coming months. One thing regarding the 2nd movement...I was really not wanting to share the recording from Tuesday and tried to do a retake yesterday, but missed the final bell. That movement should be updated on the page soon, so I want nobody to listen to the current version! Here is a link to the update which, again should be on the actual page soon:

https://app.box.com/s/v3tpacov9sl4tr36k4mx