So, what did you do today?

Posted by: Sam Casey

So, what did you do today? - 01/08/10 08:53 PM

I did 5 today. First was Hamilton in a country church. They remembered to leave the heat on but forgot to unlock the door. Customers for 20+ years so I picked the lock. (Had to do this before.)

Next was Acoustigrande, Chickering Bros, 6' grand, circa 1920. Called a few weeks ago and told me 15 years ago I helped him flip it over as it was laying upside down on it's top and did I still charge $50? "I did what?? and ah, no a bit more than $50." Crazy old piano was just a few beats off the fork.

Next was Yamaha console for a elementary school librarian.
Next was Aeolian console for a retired teacher.
Next was a Pramberger console and the customers and I spent a least 30 minutes talking fishing. It's a good life.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/08/10 09:40 PM

Nothing. It snowed a lot here last night. My windshield wiper squirter thingy decided it would no longer squirt. (Yes, I filled it up and no, it is not frozen. I think the squirter thingy's motor is busted.) With all of the salt and wet snow on the roads, you couldn't drive for more than a mile without it. I had to cancel my day.

Your story Sam, reminds me of the time I too, picked a lock in a church. Not that it was the first time or anything... The janitor came 45 minutes later and asked me how I got in. I replied with a simple, well, I thought you left the door open for me? He said, you mean, you got in through an open door? Uh huh, I said. (Well? I did! After I opened it!) He gave me very puzzled look and left. I could hear this.... Open, click, click click, SLAM. Open, click, click click, SLAM. Open, click, click click, SLAM. For about 10 minutes he did that. He came back in finally and said, that is very strange. The door locks every single time! I had ALL I could do to keep from busting out laughing. As it was, I was laughing while he was slamming the door continuously.
Posted by: pppat

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/08/10 09:56 PM

With all the lockpicking, I suppose I have to expand my toolbox here... smile

Today no tuning, hard disk recovery. Power is very unreliable here in Finland right now because of the cold weather, and that messes with electronics.

-29 degrees celsius this morning (-20 F) :-O
Posted by: JBE

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/08/10 10:13 PM

You should have said, "I was planning on stealing one of these nice pews until you showed up".

No but seriously. I heard about someone who was going to tune a regular customer church piano and the door was usually a little sticky. It had to be pushed hard whenever he went in. Apparently, this time the door wasn't just stuck, but locked.
One push, two push, three really hard shoulder ram and down comes the entire door jam and all as he goes tumbling into the church.

I don't think the custodian found much humor in that one either.

I only tuned three today. First one was a new customer with a Kawai K-6 and then two older consoles. Replaced two broken strings on the last one that were mysteriously missing from the piano.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/08/10 10:19 PM

In all churches, I pull on the door to make sure that it locks behind me. In this one church, the door was, shall we say, unsafe? I gave it a yank and the whole dang handle pulled off the glass part of the door! Glass everywhere.
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/08/10 10:20 PM

Jerry reminds me of a story a long time ago...

Church tuning in July, hot as blazes, side door on the west, full sunlight supposed to left open for me. Lady says, "it might be a little stiff. If it don't open, just give it a push." So, of course, door won't open. So I gives it a little push. No good. Church a ways off the road, don't know when I'm back again, so I gives it another push. OK, I should have quit then. But I gave it another GOOD shove and BANG, the whole door, door frame, trim falls into the church. ooopps...
Posted by: RonTuner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/08/10 10:22 PM

Shoveled snow, got the snow blower working... Roads were clear, so the drive in went fine.

Glued a guitar, adjusted a flute and an alto saxophone. Flushed out a tuba (oh, will the fun ever end?) Unjammed the soft pedal on a practice room Wurli. Printed out a bunch of combinations because students can't seem to remember them after winter break.


After school I tuned a Yamaha upright in an elementary school that I tuned last year when it was 50%+ humidity. Today my little meter read 19%...

Ron Koval
chicagoland
Posted by: JBE

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/08/10 10:25 PM

...and who says piano tuners are wimps.

Sorry Sam. I may have just repeated your story unknowingly. It's a funny one.
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/08/10 11:17 PM

No problem Bryon. It was my first and last, (hopefully) crash down of a door in pursuit of a piano tuning. There's dedication for you. As I remember the piano was terrible and it was Wednesday afternoon. After I got in I called the pianist. "Oh I forgot to unlock it! How did you get it?" She rushed down to the church. By then I had leaned the door against the wall and gathered up the pieces of trim and was half way thru the tuning. The church began to fill and deacons were patching the door. Everybody that came had the same question, "What happened to the door." The pianist fielded the questions as I pounded away. Talk about concentrating under duress...
Posted by: Gene Nelson

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/08/10 11:28 PM

Tried all day to avoid sanding trough a new finish and ate the black powdery stuff that got around the dust mask.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/09/10 01:34 AM

Tuned a Kawai 48" upright, a Seiler upright, did 4 hours worth of lubricating, key easing and leveling, hammer filing, flange repinning (and rebushing one....:-) on a 25 year old Steinway grand in a customer's home, then did a brief trouble shooting call on new Pramberger.

Yesterday I punched leads out of the fronts of the black keys on a Bergman upright to allow the action to function.

It's always interesting, one big reason I love this job.
Posted by: JBE

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/09/10 01:41 AM

Sounds great Dave. I like your style. thumb
Posted by: Olek

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/09/10 04:33 AM

Originally Posted By: Gene Nelson
Tried all day to avoid sanding trough a new finish and ate the black powdery stuff that got around the dust mask.


Hello, did you try those ones :

http://www.mirka.com/products_abranethd?

they also sell blocks with aspiration hose for hand sanding, very useful in customer's home.

I water/sand the polyester or PU finishes as much as possible.


Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/09/10 09:27 AM

Changed the belts on the snow thrower - mouse damage. I wonder if putting an old piano in the shed would keep the mice out of the yard equipment.
Posted by: Thomson Lawrie

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/09/10 09:54 AM

Just 3 today (Friday after all), a M&H grand, a Heintzman grand and a Heintzman console that was down the bottom of a hill at the end of a long country road. I found myself wishing I had put on snow tires as I descended the hill but I made it back out OK.

Sam's story about the church door reminds me of a story one of our chapter members tells about arriving at a customers house where the customer wasn't home. He thought he remembered being told to just walk in if they weren't there. The side door was a little sticky but it opened. He walked all through the house but he couldn't find a piano. On his way out the side door he met the owner walking in. He was an off duty cop. Wrong house, wrong street. The police were called.

Although he can see well enough to get around, this tuner is sight impaired and takes cabs from one appointment to another. He got a ride in a police car to the right address. Same street name, one is a court and the other is a crescent. Burglary tools, piano tolls, they all look the same don't they?
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/09/10 10:52 AM

We seldom have weather issues in the SF area. The occasional hard rain, and snow at sea level every 30-40 years or so. We do, however, have the occasional earthquake. I was in the east San Jose Foothills on Thursday--pulling lead out of the aforementioned Bergmann--when the house started to creak, then shook madly for about 5 seconds. Nothing came down but for the notion that I might be standing on stable ground... The epicenter was 10 miles away from where I was in the same mountain range
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/09/10 11:23 AM

Now there is one business hazard I never thought off: Earthquakes. Geezze. Hate to be voicing when that happened. Stab myself to pieces.

Today is AM appointment setting for the week and then some time off and honeydoos. Make it a rule not to tune on weekends. Sacred ground for me and the Mrs. If the weather is decent I'll work in my shop but it's been in the single digits for a week.
Posted by: Gene Nelson

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/09/10 11:25 AM

We seldom have weather issues in the SF area.

6" snow in San Francisco winter of 58

Kamin,
Thanks for the link, I am familiar with Mirka products. At the present I am using 3M Gold Hook It 1 and 2.
Sanding a water base Enduro product.
Posted by: SuperTuner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/09/10 12:05 PM

Well, I'm actually taking a Saturday off, but yesterday. . .

Warmed up the car (-17*F), drove 90 miles to tune Baldwin L for a piano teacher, her friend's Baldwin console (40c. flat), the seriously beat up Yamaha G2 at the high school, and the Schimmel 256 at the church.

Couldn't figure out why the third octave was 20c. flat on the Schimmel, until crawling underneath to discover someone had yanked out the humidifier plug from the D-Ch humidistat. The humidity measured less than 6%RH. I hope it at least stays in tune through Sunday services after plugging back in.

Sam, thanks for the laugh! I actually did send voicing needles through my thumbnail once (not earthquake related).
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/09/10 01:55 PM

Like the way water base sands. Comes off like a fine talc. Gene do u use a circle sander? I use a 5" hook and loop air sander rigged to a small vac via a long 1 1/4 in flexible tube. Gets most of the dust. You can get down to 600-800 grit and do a hand rub satin or shoot another thinned semi-gloss coat and call it good as per Yamaha verticals. I've been using Target Coatings.
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/09/10 01:57 PM

Elizabeth I feel Able should put out a series of blood red hammers. Save us some trouble. smile
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/09/10 02:00 PM

Yesterday I went shopping for groceries, and to a club meeting. The market was up, so I made enough that I did not need to tune pianos.
Posted by: Gene Nelson

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/09/10 02:08 PM

Sam,
This project I use the 6" pneumatic random orbit as well as many different sanding blocks. This Enduro finish is black with no clear.
Previous project I used a 6" random orbit that has a vacuum attach followed by many hand block sanders.
I have just started to use Target clear acrylic I think it is EM 6000 or something like that.
Like it better than Enduro - sands easier too.
The clear is more clear compared with clear Enduro - resembles nitro lacquer. Very easy to work with and there is almost no layering. Very nice product.
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/09/10 04:11 PM

Gene, yes Target is nice stuff. Have u used the spray on filler? It's tricky. Dries very hard. Haven't got the hang of it yet but I like the idea.
Posted by: pppat

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/09/10 05:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Kamin

Hello, did you try those ones :

http://www.mirka.com/products_abranethd?

they also sell blocks with aspiration hose for hand sanding, very useful in customer's home.


Originally Posted By: Gene

Kamin,
Thanks for the link, I am familiar with Mirka products. At the present I am using 3M Gold Hook It 1 and 2.


Funny - Mirka is a VERY local brand here in the middle part of Finland... the headquarters is just 15 miles away. I know their CEO personally. Didn't realize it was a world-wide brand. Small world... smile
Posted by: Olek

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/09/10 05:52 PM

Originally Posted By: pppat
Originally Posted By: Kamin

Hello, did you try those ones :

http://www.mirka.com/products_abranethd?

they also sell blocks with aspiration hose for hand sanding, very useful in customer's home.


Originally Posted By: Gene

Kamin,
Thanks for the link, I am familiar with Mirka products. At the present I am using 3M Gold Hook It 1 and 2.


Funny - Mirka is a VERY local brand here in the middle part of Finland... the headquarters is just 15 miles away. I know their CEO personally. Didn't realize it was a world-wide brand. Small world... smile



Well the abrasives they make on a totally open support, (Abranet, I guess) are really second to none when it comes to aspiration, and also they dont clog with the dust so they last way longer than even the special ones (white sheet, auto lubed) for lacquer sanding. Most furniture workers use them there actually (and piano technicians too).

Gene and Sam I am afraid I dont know what are the lacquers (?) you talk about.
What are the products ? or akryl urethane as automotive painters use now ? or something else ? solvent based or catalyse ?) i did not read they where Akryl water based.
I dont know if this is different from Akryl urethane , do you need a heated room ?.

For a help on yamaha polyester (black or transparent) you can use the ones that are sold to repair cars (fiber glass + polyester). Thy are cheap, and can be even used with a brush (but of course sanded ans surfaced afterthat. only horizontal surfaces or they'll flow, but it helps sometime.
The other polyesters (Koenig, for instance) sold for piano and furniture repairs content parafin, so they dont drip as much and can be used more thick, but you have to wash the parafin from the surface with acetone before adding more.

I was told recently that the polyester is often only a primer coat on pianos actually, then a clear high gloss cot is used which is urethane (2 composites catalyser and product)

before then I guess that the last coat was ultra gloss polyester and it is yet the case on some brands)


Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/09/10 06:52 PM

Issac: www.targetcoatings.com Target Coatings. They are water-based products for furniture finishing. No polyester. I'd like to fiddle with polyester spraying. Saw it done at M&H but can't find a spray equipment supplier. Haven't been back to prowl about their shop and check labels.
Posted by: David Jenson

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/09/10 07:14 PM

Originally Posted By: UnrightTooner
Changed the belts on the snow thrower - mouse damage. I wonder if putting an old piano in the shed would keep the mice out of the yard equipment.


I usually keep paper toweling soaked in peppermint oil in the machinery to keep the mice out. 'Forgot it this year in the snow blower, and had to change two belts. Grrrrrr!
Posted by: Olek

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/09/10 07:31 PM

Thanks Sam, I'll have a look.
I forget to say that the Mirka "ABRANET" is second to none for hammer shaping. (grit 80- 120- 250)

no clogging ! stay fresh !

It is sold in long strips for the long sanding blocks.

You more or less can see what you are doing thru the sanding "paper" .

Better have your fingers backed with some masking tape so not to hurt them (and it is also a good way to keep the hammers neat and white)

really worth the try.

That one, but I have longer strips I cut to 5 cm large +-





Posted by: Olek

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/09/10 07:44 PM

Originally Posted By: Sam Casey
Issac: www.targetcoatings.com Target Coatings. They are water-based products for furniture finishing. No polyester. I'd like to fiddle with polyester spraying. Saw it done at M&H but can't find a spray equipment supplier. Haven't been back to prowl about their shop and check labels.


Thanks, I dont spray polyester myself very special equipment, it may be out of dust for a long time, I guess a heated spray room is necessary. (the thinner the coat the longer it takes to catalyse) but I repair polyester with 2composant (resin and hardener). With time I begin to do that correctly , while it is easy to have bubbles or miss the good mix...

The polyester sold for automotives is thin and clear, but it is useful as you can repair trnsparent poly(Yamaha for instance) or if you have the good black dye (very concentrated special dye) you can make flat surfaces with a brush and sand buff polish afterthat. low tech but useful (a friend showed me that lately I did not experiment yet but I've seen the result (grand lid) and was OK).
If not, quality polyester spraying is very expensive (many coats + buffing). styrene is a dangerous product for the health, also.

Have a nice sunday !

Posted by: Gene Nelson

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/09/10 07:48 PM

Gene, yes Target is nice stuff. Have u used the spray on filler? It's tricky. Dries very hard. Haven't got the hang of it yet but I like the idea.
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No - however, after trying to completely fill mahogany grains I am considering some type of filler. Is it clear?

Just purchased some Koenig polyester for touch up. Black poly with hardener and reducer - will touch up with an air brush. Reducer is used similar to lacquer thinner and nitro lacquer - I will find out soon enough as this is my first attempt.
Posted by: Olek

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/09/10 08:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Gene Nelson
Gene, yes Target is nice stuff. Have u used the spray on filler? It's tricky. Dries very hard. Haven't got the hang of it yet but I like the idea.
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No - however, after trying to completely fill mahogany grains I am considering some type of filler. Is it clear?

Just purchased some Koenig polyester for touch up. Black poly with hardener and reducer - will touch up with an air brush. Reducer is used similar to lacquer thinner and nitro lacquer - I will find out soon enough as this is my first attempt.


With Koenig, if it is cold you may warm it a little (not too much as it fasten it) but also mix well the resin, that mean no stirring but rolling slowly the bottle so the bottom can mix with the top - avoid bubbles - live it to rest a while anyway before using it.

To avoid bubbles , after having put th 2-3 dorops max of black stain, stirr to the max, then wait 20-30 sec, dont use it immediately. you will probably see some bubbles then.

Wash the inside of the zone with compressed air then acetone to get rid of the whitened zone due to the sanding (that is why it is better to use a blade to finish the preparation, less white).very smooth cup shape on the edges allow the poly to mix with the other under it.

I mask around the zone with thin braun adhesive tape, that will resist to water sanding and show me when I'll be really almost flat (the thickness of the adhesive only remains.

I make an aperture in a plastic sheet for sanding, to protect around the zone (then no need to cover all around with masking tape. it can be worked with a blade also but it is longer, there are special scrapers for polyester , but I never seen one. the Koenig can be rubbed and polished, in the end it is almost invisible. Nevertheless it is sold more as a reparir product and not a finishing product (not to be sprayed).
That one contains parafin, that have to be washed (aceton) from the surface before sanding or adding a new layer.

It is worth knowing how to use it, I could repair very ugly marks on some grand lids that where really not visible afterthat. the use of a good polish (not full of silicone !) because it add a very thin layer in the end, help to have a glossy surface (protect from dust) and hide any micro defect that is yet on the surface.
good luck : Koenig is the one that was or is yet used for German Steinways. the black dye is very good.

Best
Posted by: Olek

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/09/10 08:13 PM

May be you did not buy the same product than me, I use 1 liter resin bottles and hardener in paste plus black special dye.

what is 'reducer ?"
Posted by: Gene Nelson

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/09/10 09:16 PM

Kamin, I did not state the product or situation correct. I am using Koenig polyester repair on a Schimmel lid. The edge repair accidently penetrated into the undercoat slightly and it is quite soft and will not polish. Rather than continue to do repairs as there is not much finish on the edges, I purchased an Ebony Acrlyic Topcoat from my Koenig supplier for touch up. It has hardener and reducer. They said it sprays on and I assumed it was the same as the polyester finish.
Posted by: Olek

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/10/10 05:26 AM

Well it may be more worth the try to ask directly Schimmel which products are used then, could be useful to others.

I never traced a too soft polyester (cannot polish) to that kind of problem, only if I use too much dye or too much harderner paste also.

Very possibly Koenig sell the most up to date products of course.

Please tell us how the Acrilyc top coat grip on the underside finish, that is interesting to know.

the edges are the most difficult part to repair, for sure. Being able to spray with an airbrush may be a must.

Professional polyesters are sold with hardener, reducer and solvent (instructions depend of air moisture and of the use , I have instructional data sheet but never done it myself).

Many colleagues are looking for a polyester to be sprayed by themselves, as I have been told some polish restorers know how to do without a special place.

But to have real professional result and avoid health hazard, a spraying both is necessary, not a cheap thing.

The representatives of the polyester brand when I met him in the shop wher I buy varnishes told me that the top coat could be urethane now, may be he wanted to say Akril Urethane.

But he state also that the top coat was "piano polyester" (mean : very glossy and hard), while the underside was a black polyester primer .
Posted by: Gene Nelson

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/10/10 11:52 AM

I believe that several finish types will adhear to polyester. A friend used a clear water base acrylic lacquer over polyester and it worked very well on an inner rim. I attempted this with the same water base acrylic in black on the Schimmel lid and adheasion was not a problem. The problem was polishing. There was a distinct line where polyester ended and water base acrylic begin and it could not be removed.
This is when I had a talk with my Koenig supplier. Hopefully the sovlent based topcoat that they supplied will not have this issue.
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/10/10 11:55 AM

Originally Posted By: Gene Nelson
I believe that several finish types will adhear to polyester.


And you are correct in your belief.Poly can be used as a base for a variety of products. Some however will only produce a mechanical bond.
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/10/10 04:03 PM

Gene the spray filler goes on a milky white and dries clear. Mist coats. As u probably know that's the trick with water base. Lots of light coats, enough set up time and it fills quickly. The trick with the spray on filler is the squeege. Spray it on, squeege it across grain to fill pores, set up and spray again. Can't leave ANY pile up along squeege ends because it dried very hard and sand out becomes uneven. Haven't got the routine down to my liking but it shows promise.
Posted by: Olek

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/11/10 07:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Gene Nelson
I believe that several finish types will adhear to polyester. A friend used a clear water base acrylic lacquer over polyester and it worked very well on an inner rim. I attempted this with the same water base acrylic in black on the Schimmel lid and adheasion was not a problem. The problem was polishing. There was a distinct line where polyester ended and water base acrylic begin and it could not be removed.
This is when I had a talk with my Koenig supplier. Hopefully the sovlent based topcoat that they supplied will not have this issue.




I am really lost, I understood that he sold you a water based acrylic product, it is a solvent based top coat, but it is Acrylic as well ? is it what is now used on cars ? But the solvent is non toxic and does not evaporate.

I am not capable to understand the technical words for finishing when in English (furnisher web site) . Too bad, it is as with chemicals the words are sounding similar to mean something different !
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/12/10 07:38 AM

Yesterday was my first commercial tuning, unsolicited, not an acquaintance. Went well, was a 1-year-old 42.5" Pearl River. They mentioned that it had a ”sticky key” that failed to exhibit the problem in my presence. Hoping for more to come...

This past weekend I pulled my S&S A out of the paint booth and am reassembling. Will post pics along the way. By first piece.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/12/10 08:45 AM

I'm slowing down (intentionally) now after the first of the year. I'm still booked a month in advance but, am 'only' tuning 4 a day right now, 3 on some, 5 on other days. I'm working at my college again this week. Nice relaxing pace right now.... I can finally keep up!
Posted by: Terry Benge

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/12/10 06:16 PM

Only did 2 today because of slick roads. One Schimmel 7' with 2 sticking jacks, and a Kawa RX-1 10 years old and never been tuned. Half tone pitch raise and a fine tune. Then some paper work and scheduling.
Posted by: JBE

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/12/10 09:12 PM

I was just thinking yesterday about how I rarely have a chance to practice string splicing or tying a 'tuners knot'. This is one of the first things I learned how to do when I started out as a piano tuner. I'm very glad it is something that I learned how to do because it has saved me a few times. I would practice using bread- ties with the paper covering removed just to remember how the bends go. The last piano of the day was an old Sherman Clay console with very bent tuning pins. It was only 10 cents flat so I'm going along from A1 down to A0 and back up to the tenor and KER---SNAP! the first wound string at the tenor break broke at the coil. "Oh good, time to polish up the knot tying skills".
Two holes in the thumb and a few pints of blood later and she was up and running again. I enjoy doing that repair for some strange reason.
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/12/10 09:58 PM

5 today.
P-22 for a historic little church that served as a Civil war union battle hospital.

Everett Grand circa 1915 with tight jacks. 1st dose of CLP got most 2nd dose the rest. House was in a gated community, at the end of a cul-de-sac, up a steep drive to a big brick house. Drove my RAV4 60ft up the snow covered drive, lady was outside spreading salt. We go in, I go to work, she comes back white as a ghost. "You won't believe this: Your car slid all the way down the drive to the street. No damage, just sitting there at the end of the drive." So there it sat till I was done.

Krell-French Upright barely alive.

Kawai studio in Episcopal Church.

Yamaha G3 in High School vocal.

All dry and flat.
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/12/10 10:22 PM

Forgot one: SD10 for big Baptist church. 6 today.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/12/10 11:53 PM

I did five...but it was pretty much a dog day, except for a brand new Kawai K-3 upright.

A 1928 Schumann Grand, really close to being in tune...60c flat! Given the rust on the strings and pins, 440 was not an option. Left it at 424.5

Rental conversion Wurlitzer console

Schiller upright that came from Nebraska, and was signed by many tuners over the decades

Quite possible the worst piano I've seen in some time, a Westbrook spinet, yet another rental converstion.
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/13/10 12:24 AM

Ah yes, Westbrook. I have a church that has many nice pianos and 1 Westbrook spinet. All are tuned every 6 and the Westbrook is either wildly sharp or wildly flat. I've told them many times the wreck would make a fairly decent boat anchor.
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/13/10 02:03 AM

I went to the Noontime Concert, where somehow I was picked out to help move the piano. It was French cello music.

Then I went to tune a very nice Janssen studio for the sister of a very famous movie star who died fairly young. There was a photograph of her with her arm over her head, and I could not help but think despite the tragedy of her untimely demise that it was fortunate that she died before she began to have trouble holding her arm like that. The sister was charming, and gave me some cookies, according to Russian holiday tradition.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/13/10 04:17 PM

5 again today. Everett studios, Baldwin studios and Kawai UST-8's. Tuned last in September, RH was 52 % now 18 %.

You know the pianos I have always enjoyed tuning? Maybe I'm just slightly prejudiced here, but they are the older Everett studios that were built in South Haven Michigan. We used to have a lot of these pianos at my college. We've replaced many of the oldest and most worn out ones yet, we still have quite a few left. They are now 45-50 years old and still holding up strong. They don't look so red hot anymore thanks to the little kiddies but they are solid pianos.

Some others that we still have left there are the older Baldwin and Hamilton studios also about 45-50 years old. All of them are fairly nice tuning and quite solidly built pianos over all I think back in those days.
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/13/10 04:24 PM

Just about all of those old studios were pretty good. I thought the Janssen was a pretty good model for Charles Walter to build his business on.
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/13/10 05:36 PM

Have an Janssen that I handed down to my great Niece to play. Now I find myself doing maintence on it.... how come it was never done for me when I played...uhm
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/13/10 09:44 PM

Everetts were always dandy. Those steel post versions were a killer to move!

8 today.
Nice Acro console.
Nordiska Studio.
Lovely old Geo. Steck grand, all original, perfect set of ivories. Lady had her humidifiers going stong and the piano was on the fork.
Kimball spinet.
SS D and 5' Estonia in Methodist Ch. Last year church put in pipe organ and spent 12K on sancturary humidity control. Music director and I share a passion for wine and he gave me a belaed Xmas present of Chateau Neuf. DEEELIGHTFUL.
Baldwin grand I recondititoned and sold 28 years ago and tuned yearly since.
Krakhaur Console circa 1939, beautiful case and ivories. Owner had the original paperwork. Was 1/2 step flat and did a pitch raise.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/13/10 11:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT
5 again today. Everett studios, Baldwin studios and Kawai UST-8's. Tuned last in September, RH was 52 % now 18 %.

You know the pianos I have always enjoyed tuning? Maybe I'm just slightly prejudiced here, but they are the older Everett studios that were built in South Haven Michigan.



I liked these alot, and even owned one. Solid pianos, good value, pleasing sound and touch.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/16/10 10:39 AM

I did 3 yesterday. Nice day! 1 UST-8. 2. Story & Clunk, er, Clark studio, not a nice tuning piano. 3. Yamaha U 1 made in Japan. Love those pianos.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/16/10 07:12 PM

Nine yesterday, 6 today (# 7 wasn't tunable) 9 to tune on Sunday, 5 on Monday, and Tues/Wed shop work/off/no tunings/yea.
Posted by: Rod Verhnjak

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/16/10 07:26 PM

My day, drilled two Steinway pinblocks and sold a piano.
Think I'll call it a day.
Posted by: RPD

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/16/10 08:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT
I'm slowing down (intentionally) now after the first of the year. I'm still booked a month in advance but, am 'only' tuning 4 a day right now, 3 on some, 5 on other days. I'm working at my college again this week. Nice relaxing pace right now.... I can finally keep up!


Same here...Jane's got me booked solid into Feb, but I'm travelling 4 days per week, and booking around 5 per day it seems...a VERY nice pace after a Christmas rush that can only be described as insane.

But today...Saturday...I was underneath an M&H Ampico reproducer, doing the final touches before delivery later this month. So, my day was spent trying to avoid the cute lickings of my husky-shepherd Luna, who finds my lying on the floor under a piano simply irresistable.

YMMV
whistle
RPD
Posted by: Eric Gloo

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/16/10 10:40 PM

I've been taking Zicam since Wednesday...every 3 hours...Today was spent eating...watching football. So far my cold is not progressing, so I think I started the Zicam early enough. Colds are a huge problem for me. Fortunately, I don't get them very often. I live and tune in an area with big elevation changes. So, if I'm stuffed up and drive to an area lower in elevation...the ears plug...and "there ain't no tunin' when that happens."
Posted by: JBE

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/16/10 11:57 PM

Went to a class on aural tuning taught by Richard Bittner RPT.
He came down to S.D. CAL. from the NAMM show to share his knowledge with us here. A very fine tuner and a great guy.
Posted by: Olek

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/17/10 03:33 AM

I've spend most of my time in the workshop, lately, giving tunings to a friend, as I have 2 grands together to work on and am abit late on one of them. Thats OK for me , as I have suffered from diverse flu those last months, plus avoiding the transportation in car or motorcycle in Paris town is cool , only misses me the contact with customers.

Yesterday I bring back together at the pianists place all the parts of a Yamaha U1 vertical with silent system installed that had to be dismounted when he moved. keyboard/keybed apart, sides, silent system.

After putting all together, a new setup of the keyboard sensors is necessary (even if basically they are yet working). I is very easy to do - one record the condition of the sensor without the keys, then with the keys at rest, the, each key is pushed lightly top record the bottom position.

The sides are glued but very easy to dismount, things fall in place easely in the other direction.

Some old houses here have very tight stairs, because an elevator have been added for instance. The movers are very good to spin the grand pianos on the tail, or verticals on an edge to pass tight corners, but there is a limit. then the verticals have to be taken apart only to enter the flat.



Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/17/10 11:37 AM

I don't work in the field weekends. If motivated I do shop work. Thursday was 5 plus replacing expanding action brackets on a Young Chang G157. Had to set spread, jacks, blow, letoff, drop etc. 3 of the old brackets busted as I backed the rail screws out.

Friday was 7 plus last rites on a Chickering console, 1940's with bad bass block, plastic, jacks, flanges and backchecks. Been cobbling this piano since 1985 for little old lady with occasional grandkid visit. This time too many jacks and flanges busted. Beautiful matched walnut case. Too bad. She rightly suggested if the kids want it fixed, they can do it. I agree.

Young Chang brackets. Gold is new, silver old.



Brackets superimposed.

Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/17/10 11:41 AM

Here's a piano Born to be Tuned. While fiddling with getting these strings rendered I thought back on my early days in the business and what a nightmare this would have been. I could see myself struggling for an hour wonder WHY these string keep slipping when the pins felt tight enough...

Estey spinet 1941 in a chuch school. Been telling them for years it would make a good boat anchor.

Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/18/10 12:03 AM

Wouldn't you just love to do that just once? Use a piano like that as a boat anchor?
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/18/10 10:20 AM

Spent all day Saturday rejuvenating a pre-WWII Cable-Nelson Studio. 500% improvement, but wish I had done things a little differently…. It has the finest grain soundboard I've ever seen and really good scaling for its size and age. Pinblock is still very tunable. Slacking off and pounding the bass strings, along with hammer shaping, brought the tone back very well.
Posted by: Eric Gloo

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/18/10 07:46 PM

Spent the day beginning to revive a 1927 Chickering "F" grand (5'4", I think). CA glue treatment on tuning pins. Installed new Vagias key tops and fronts, which look outstandingly "sharp"...especially compared to the old do-it-yourself-turned-dark-yellow-and-were-peeling-off-and-couldn't-even-close-the-fallboard-without-snapping-some-off-tops. Key leveling, etc., etc. Was happy to find some decent work was done at some point in the past 30 years...new upper treble hammers, new knuckles. Was sent home with a dinner plate of pizza, meatballs and Czechoslovakian cookies!!! Delicious!
Posted by: Larry Buck

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/18/10 08:31 PM

Finished gluing in a new sound board into a 1909 Steinway B.

This B has the finest mahogany veneer I have ever seen, BTW.

I will soon post a picture to begin my "Just When You Thought it Was Safe to Use the Old Board" series .... stay tuned
Posted by: dschwoyer

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/18/10 10:08 PM

Did a major pitch raise on a Wurlitzer spinet.Had to do it twice.
Did some restringing on the old upright.Realized,I don't have #17 music wire.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/18/10 10:51 PM

Pitch raised and tuned a Brodmann 187 grand, repaired the glue joint on the lyre posts that go into the pedal box, lightly sanded the hammers to minimize groovage. The piano is screaming for hammer fitting....

Tuned a couple of Bohemia uprights, and a Story and Clark console for a friend.

Everybody had dogs today, which to me is very comforting.
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/18/10 10:52 PM

Then I suggest you spend some time tomorrow getting your inventory under control.
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/18/10 11:04 PM

Did only 4 today. Acro pitch raise, P-22 for a church, another Acro and Pramberger 6' grand. Got sunny and warm out. Almost tempted to due the sunroof.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/18/10 11:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Dave Stahl


Everybody had dogs today, which to me is very comforting.


I just re-read my post...I meant canines, not bad pianos!
Posted by: Larry Buck

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/19/10 12:54 PM

Referring to my recent post on this thread regarding the new board I just glued in...

Here is a photo of the original sound board with a strait edge across the top.

Just when you thought it was safe to use the old board .... !!

Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/19/10 01:10 PM

I do not tune by smelling, nor do I evaluate a soundboard by looking at it, particularly with key elements removed.
Posted by: Larry Buck

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/19/10 01:14 PM

Which "key" elements are removed here that you would be concerned about?

And,.... How is smelling and tuning an effective analogy. Could you elaborate?
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/19/10 08:59 PM

The University has a harpichord with a board like that....the pitch drops with increased humidity. Cleaned the workshop today, drove 100 miles on the scooter, and re-pined 2 dozen tight hammer flanges. No tunings - my ears need a break.
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/19/10 10:41 PM

Did 9 today. Kawai Console, Young Chang 5', Pramburger 6', U1, Acro, Kimball Con, P-22, and 2 more Acros.

Called a regular a few days ago and in a low, depressed voice, she says "My year is up. Oh... Ok, when do you want to come," like I was the freaking Grimm Reaper. I started to laugh and said, "Darlin, this a pianna tunin, not an execution!"
Posted by: Larry Buck

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/20/10 06:08 AM

Sam, you are the "lean mean tuning machine" !!!

9 pianos ???? !!!

My head hurts thinking about it.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/20/10 07:54 AM

Mine too. Not to mention that it makes my back hurt just thinking about it Larry. Nice pictures by the way.

I do not want to do that many anymore so more power to ya dude! Want a few more Kimball Whitney's added to your repertoire?

I remember when I was a kid, my dad would come home from the college day after day saying 15 today, 12 today, 18 again today. I kept thinking, man, what is he nuts? Until I realized, he was so busy that he had to work that hard. Finally, he started farming work out more until he finally semi retired and turned the business over to me.

Really, think about that. Not charging me for it, he gave it to me! What a gift.

I did 5 yesterday. A Zimmerman grand, lowered that one to pitch, Wurlitzer studio, Lowered this one too, Yamaha P202, Lowered it, raised a Baldwin Acrosonic 3/8 tone to pitch, then tuned a Kawai GM-10 raising that about 1/4 tone to pitch.

Was home by 3 PM though starting at 9 with an hour lunch. Good enough for this old guy. Gone are the days of 9 +. Good job Sam! I think? grin
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/20/10 11:06 AM

9? Dang, Sam, you can just about retire....

Yesterday I was tuning a g-1 Yamaha in a theater at a private girl's school minding my own business when an 8th grade speech class came in and began giving brief speeches about memories and people that were dear to them. Very relaxing, actually. Voice tones don't interfere with my tuning process, and half of my brain actually listened to the speeches.

The really interesting thing about this gig is that many years ago (I won't recount an exact figure here....), my first gig after I left music school was as a gardener, bus driver, and go-fer for the maintenance department of this school. Back to the past in a big way!
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/20/10 02:25 PM


Spent a few minutes today at work remembering one of the special ones who left us some time ago.

Every time this comes on NPR I have to put my tools down and listen to this voice. Something about the way the intonation, the expression, the nuance……………not sure exactly what catches me……….

Virtually un-known outside of the Washington DC area, she became seriously ill and passed in 1996, age 33. Posthumously she was inducted into the Washington Music Hall of Fame.

Just like the comments state up there with Karen Dalton and Stina Nordenstam. This is pure art.Love in a note...enjoy…….

Live at the Blues Alley

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSXYu-3r1S8

Oh and I managed to get the four pianos done at the private school….
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/20/10 03:14 PM

Beautiful, Dan. Thanks for sending this link.
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/20/10 06:33 PM

Prep'd my S&S A for the trip home.. it's almost done, just doing finishing touches.

Here's a favorite of mine

Joy Spring on Youtube
Posted by: crogersrx

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/20/10 06:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Sam Casey
Called a regular a few days ago and in a low, depressed voice, she says "My year is up. Oh... Ok, when do you want to come," like I was the freaking Grimm Reaper. I started to laugh and said, "Darlin, this a pianna tunin, not an execution!"


Wow, works the other way around with me and my tech. I call him up to come tune and he tells me it's only been a few months....

I love my piano so much when it's freshly tuned.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/20/10 08:58 PM

Dan, what a voice she had! Thanks for that!
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/20/10 11:06 PM

I have this CD. Eva Cassidy was a treasure. She does a cover of "Fields of Gold" by Bono that will break your heart.

I was like your Dad Jerry with too many mouths to feed and only pianos to supply the money. Worked my butt off for a thriving cleintel and now I have so many relationships I work as much not to disappoint my "friends" as the money. Of course I like to blow money too so it kind of balances out. I wouldn't know what to do with myself if I wasn't going 900 mph with my hari on fire.

Larry I may be a "tuning machine," but the "lean" part is an unwarrented compliment. Did 8 today, got 7 more calls on voicemail. Did a UST-7, a venerable Acro, another Acro, a Hammond console, (the house was 85 degrees and 54% RH in JANUARY. Bermed homes with wood stove. About died. Did a pitch raise). Another Acro, two Baldwin M's, and a old Steinway Console. My life is generally like this.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/21/10 12:10 AM

Originally Posted By: Monster M&H
Prep'd my S&S A for the trip home.. it's almost done, just doing finishing touches.

Here's a favorite of mine

Joy Spring on Youtube


Wow...one of my favorite tunes done in a unique way! Brazilian Clifford Brown.

Thanks, Les. Enjoy your A!
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/21/10 08:30 AM

Thanks Dave, not sure how long I can stand to have 2 grands in the house. Will be looking to sell it.

Joy Spring was a tune my recently departed teacher & freind and I were working on. He turned me on to that rendition.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/21/10 11:25 PM

I tuned two "world class" grand pianos with different brand names today. I know they were "world class" because the soundboard decal told me so! One had a much better action than the other, but they both needed a reg. Then at 9:30 pm, a string at F6 on the D broke. GRRR. I tied a loop on the other side and will replace it after tomorrow night's concert.
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/22/10 01:21 AM

I went to a cioppino dinner at my club.
Posted by: David Jenson

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/22/10 08:02 AM

I looked at about the 14th "world class" 50y/o "baby grand" I've seen this year that the owners said that they wanted restored because of its sentimental value. The actual cost of restoration magically evaporated all the sentiment right on the spot!
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/22/10 08:27 PM

I have a customer with a 60 year old Weaver Console, not the best piano is any circumstances and she has not shrunk form the ridiculas price of restoration. Never can tell abut "sentimental values."

Did only 5 today. Huge old Ellington upright, 3 nore Acros and a old blond oak Story and Clark console.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/22/10 10:01 PM

I must be reading Sam's postings to much. I did 7 today. First one was a Cable console, hadn't been tuned in God only knows how long, like, maybe never? I raised it 1/2 to 3/4 tone to 440. Then, tuned 1 Hamilton studio, 1 Baldwin SF, 1 Kawai RX-3, 1 RX-6, 1 Schimmel studio, 1 Kawai UST-8. Gee, what am I, nuts??? DON'T ANSWER THAT! I already know the answer!
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/22/10 11:47 PM

Jerry the sanity question occurs to me too but I try to keep busy enough not to think about it! Got a weekend to rest up and hit it again next week. Will spend part of the weekend putting a set of keytops on a old Wurlitzer grand and a buddy of mine is coming over to work on my old 80 Chevy C-10. Bought it new, inline 250 6, three on tree. Steering column and shifter is messed so we'll spend a day or two drinking beer and busting knuckles.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/23/10 12:59 AM

Jeez, I must be a slacker...I only did 5 today and 4 yesterday! Did some driving, though...

2 Steinway uprights, one old, one fairly new; a Kawai RX2, and a Shigeru SK% yesterday.

Petrov 48", two Kawai K-3s, a Kawai RX2, and a Kawai 506 Studio.

Funny to look at these posts and see what we each tune. It isn't hard to see which dealers or manufacturers people have worked for/with.

Have a great weekend, all!
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/23/10 10:26 PM

I don't know if who we worked for or who has been the most successful area dealers. We tune what's out there in our neighborhood.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/24/10 09:54 AM

This one should be in "the places we tune" thread, but this is what I did yesterday, or rather, where I tuned a Kawai K-6. My heart goes out to the four movers who got this thing up there. This little video only shows about 2/3 of the stairs they had to navigate outside, not to mention the indoor flight.

Sally Stanford Stairway Sausalito


Originally Posted By: Sam Casey
I don't know if who we worked for or who has been the most successful area dealers. We tune what's out there in our neighborhood.


True enough...but I do see lots of Baldwins in your repertoire, lots of Kawais in mine, and likewise in Jerry's.
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/24/10 11:55 AM

Yeah, I could trade off a few. We had a dealer in this area that started as a drygoods store late 1890's. Sold Singer sewing machines then Singer pianos. The old boys told me they used to buy nice, new uprights for $50 a head by the railroad car full. They would pack up the Model T's and haul 6 or so to one of the little towns in the area and put them in the local piano teacher's parlor and she'd sell on commission. Family run operation. Became a Baldwin dealer in the 1940's and push a TON of them. Went out of business in the late 1990's; the 3rd generation didn't have the fire of the first 2. Had another dealer next door to the first that opened in the 1920's and the old farmers would haul their oxcarts to town and go from one to the other working a deal for a few dollars less then haul their prize into the woods. Americana at it's best. Around here a Sheguru is as "scarce as hens teeth!" That's begining to change as the world gets smaller.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/24/10 01:39 PM

Yep, I do tune a lot of Yamaha and Kawai brands. thumb We have only had 2 dealerships here for many years now. The majority of what they sell have been Yamaha, Kawai and Schimmel.

I have a very good relationship with both dealers so I do get recommended quite a lot for servicing and tuning from the both of them. However, I am strictly independent from either dealership.

After this week, my schedule changes again so you will see a different variety of brands if I post them all. I did not post all of what I tuned last week.

I also slowed my schedule down intentionally to 3 a day starting tomorrow, 4 or 5 on other days; sometimes even only TWO!! It is a nice reprieve from last year. yippie At least, for now! wink

At this point in my life, I no longer have to tune like a wild banshee every single day like I used to do. Yet, somehow, I still manage to tune around 1,000 pianos a year. crazy
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/25/10 04:57 PM

Tuned 3 more Kawai's this morning. blush 1 RX-3, UST-8 K-50EA

This afternoon, I installed a DC system in a Sohmer studio. HEY, a different brand! grin
Posted by: Olek

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/25/10 05:25 PM

drilled a new Steinway action rail (copy of the old one).

A first for me it takes way too long, and I had to buy little drills, and a magnifier headset.

The next one will be faster.

The pre drilled rails that we can buy are for the modern instrument, with little differnces in spacing (for some models anyway). Then the parts make a "Z" if you want them to align around the break (12 notes above and a few in the basses. Better have the good bore, on the last one I did not like having the whippens cheating in every dimension...

Made a batch of tallow and bees wax, recipe given by John Delacour) easier to use than pure beeswax (but more greasy)

Listened to music ...


Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/25/10 08:23 PM

Brought the piano tipper with me and dropped some super glue on the pins of a wurli spinet at a music school. Doping, tuning, and a few minor repairs took 2 hours. Tuned a nice Yamaha C-7. Last guy used an ETD and the temperament was off in a strange way. Maybe bad measuring. The pins were difficult to set- tight, flexible, and sticky. Tuned a new one at the warehouse, picked up two benches at the store, fixed an errant fall board, and got a haircut.
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/25/10 10:00 PM

Did only 5 today. Kimball grand and replace a bass string, Wurly spinet, Bald grand, Walter Studio and Acro. Met my wife in town and had a "Chicago 7" Calzone at Old Chicago Pizza washed down by a tall Smithwicks and short black and tan.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/25/10 10:47 PM

I did "only" four today, but 3 of them had pitch raises, so does that count as seven...:-)? Kawai ge1a, Kawai cx5 (not my favorite kawai by a long sight), Kawai ust 12, Schafer 41 inch console. Watching Dennis the menace with wife and 9 year old son.
Posted by: Eric Gloo

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/25/10 10:54 PM

"Hoping" to tune tomorrow...still recovering from a nasty cold...ears plugged...WHAT?...I said my ears are plugged.
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/26/10 08:10 AM

Originally Posted By: Eric Gloo
"Hoping" to tune tomorrow...still recovering from a nasty cold...ears plugged...WHAT?...I said my ears are plugged.



WHAT? did you say beers in the mug?
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/26/10 09:20 AM

Originally Posted By: Bob


.....and got a haircut.


Funny, your hair looks the same in your avatar.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/26/10 06:36 PM

I tuned 5 again today. Dang glutton.

1. Tuned a Schimmel T120, raised pitch about 1/8 tone.
2. Tuned a Cable console. Not tuned since 1973. My uncle Bob tuned it last. Raised pitch 3/4 to 1 full tone to A/440. No broken strings.
3. Tuned a Story & Clark studio. Raised pitch almost 1/4 tone.
4. Tuned (oops another K word) a Kawai console. Raised pitch 1/8 tone.
5. Tuned everyone's favorite. A Kimball spinet. Raised pitch 1/8 tone. Been tuning this one yearly for 30 years. Tuned it in June when I did some action work to it thus the reason for the pitch raise.

What is it with 1/8 P.R's today anyway?

See, I really do tune other brands too! grin
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/26/10 08:59 PM

Now I look like the avatar...it was pretty long grin
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/26/10 09:07 PM

5 today. Baldwin spinet, SS B, Yammy G1, M&H studio and a Wurly spinet. The B was in a lakeside gated community, parquet floors, bay windows, 4 car garage, guest house, etc. 16 year old boy skipped school to see der pianna tuna. Spent lots of time explaining things, (no there IS NO such thing as a "solid brass toneboard," etc.) Kid was a hot new age/jazz pianist.

M&H owner hit a bass octave C1-2 and "see, I don't like this." (Been a year since I tuned it last.) Mid range a bit sharp but the octave itself was OK. Hmmmm. OK, says I, let's give it a tuning. Temperment comes out clean, work the 3rds and 6ths, 4ths 5th into the base, go to 10ths, min 17ths and everything looks good. F1 and below octaves are a bit wide but correct. I hit a few cords. "I love the middle," says she and I demonstrate the intervals and physics involved. She's satisfied, almost. "I'm a string player, violin and viola. I never like piano basses."

Bingo. I pull the bass octaves sharp of pure and, "yeah, that's it!" says she. Oh well....
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/27/10 05:30 PM

4 today! Oh no! He did the K word again!

1. Kawai K-2
2. Did another Kawai K-2
3. Did ANOTHER Kawai UST-9
4. Ha ha! I also did a Baldwin console.

Raised pitch on all, from about 438, shimmed a key slip on the UST-9---seems to be a constant problem with these pianos with those things warping. All in all a nice day.

Making $$$ anyway. grin
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/27/10 10:07 PM

Why is it always the last piano of the day (6pm) that is 150 cents flat??? WW Kimball circa 1990. Probably sent flat to the customer from the store with no free tuning, and the customer admits to never tuning it. Two other pianos today were 100 cents flat as well. It's always a rough day when I've never seen any of the pianos before. While searching the web for prices on an Baldwin L I'm appraising, I came to realize how low piano prices have gotten.
Posted by: snoopycar

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/28/10 09:22 AM

replaced a set of butt cord on a U1 smile
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/28/10 10:09 AM

Rebuilt my trapwork
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/29/10 09:34 AM

Originally Posted By: Bob
Why is it always the last piano of the day (6pm) that is 150 cents flat???


I'd rather have it be the last one than the first one...at least you don't have to call the rest of the day's customers to explain that you'll be delayed.

First client yesterday, Samick SG 50 with disk player apparatus. Supposedly tuning and one "sticky note." Turns out to be about a dozen tight back action flanges, which I repinned after removing the sostenuto rail. Only one flange screw fell into the pan that covers the underside mechanism, but I was able to remove it quickly with a magnet. Did make me sweat for a couple of minutes, though. Didn't get around to tuning it. Made an appointment for a few weeks down the road for that one.

Then it was 3 regulars: newish Baldwin Studio, a 40+ year old Yam G2, relatively new Schulze Pollman upright.

I also adjusted an una corda stop screw on a Steinway (but was ambushed by a few funky unisons and some voicing issues...), which I will revisit this morning.

New Pramberger: glued the leather pads on the una corda trap lever that had fallen off when delivered.

And just when I thought there would be no Kawai yesterday, I went out to look for a hanging damper on a K-2, but the problem had for some reason disappeared when it heard I was coming.

About 12 hours door to door.
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/29/10 08:04 PM

Had 7 scheduled but snow was getting heavy and its Friday so the last two at a little church will wait for next time. 248 Bald studio tuned up very sweetly. Wurly spinet pitch raise, Hamilton, old Bald K with a weak block and a GC1.

Yesterday was 9. Another more or less Baldwin day. Yammy G5, Acro, 5 Hamiltons, 2 Wurly spinet. 1 of the Hamiltons is in a HS and I was instructed to pick the best of 2 available. I chose the one without the mouse nest. Call me rash, but I went with my gut reaction.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/29/10 08:55 PM

I tuned a Kawai 506 (yuck)Raised 1/4 tone. (hehe, yep, another one!)
I tuned a Yammy C2 Disklavier. Raised pitch 1/2 tone. Very nice tuning piano!!!
I tuned an old Adam Schaaf upright built in 1906. Last tuned by me in 2001. Raised pitch 1/4 tone, reglued 6 ivories, replaced one missing one.
I tuned a Baldwin Acro., built in 1948. Last tuned in 1990. Raised 1/2 tone.
I tuned a Grinell console. Raised pitch 1/4 tone. Been tuning this piano for many years, tuned last summer. Had a bass string break during the pitch raise dagnabit.
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/29/10 09:04 PM

Shopping and bocce schedules.
Posted by: Eric Gloo

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/29/10 09:34 PM

Only 2 today, as I knew the afternoon tuning would take a long time. I tuned a late '80s Kimball console this morning. Its first tuning EVER was by me 2 years ago...major, major pitch raise then, and again today...and it's still 1/4 step flat.

This afternoon, I tuned a gorgeous 7'6" (or so) 1895 Chickering grand with a PianoDisc system. Mahogany case, perfect ivories. Had to pull the really heavy keyboard and felt my back start to go "TWANG" as I was lifting the keyboard. Fortunately, that's all that happened. Adjusted a weak repetition spring and reconnected another. The wippens have straight, heavy metal flanges. It's a strange one to tune and it always takes me longer than most other pianos. It appears to have 4 separate pinblocks...one for each section...bass, tenor, treble, upper treble. Each section stays in tune with itself, but quite out of tune compared to the others.

Warm, "dreamy" tone when in tune.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/29/10 10:55 PM

4 appointments, but only one tuning:

touch up some unisons on a B, a little voicing
shape hammers and minor regulation a Mason B Symmetrigrand
Korean Knabe console...planned to tune, but too many flanges to repin, both wippen and hammer flanges, so that cost a little time, too. I hate graphite impregnated bushing cloth. One of the little buggers popped right out o' there as I very gently reamed it.
Tuned and voiced a Bohemia 125 upright. Nice piano. Kind of bright, but very full sound and a well-prepped Renner action.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/29/10 11:12 PM

1. A Henry F. Miller Aeolian spinet. The teaching studio needed another piano, and this was the winner.

2. A Hallet Davis Aeolian Spinet (more or less the same piano as the Miller but better build quality.) This one was 2 notes flat. I raised it to 45 cents flat and scheduled another tuning in 6 weeks. The customer just paid $300 for the piano. The 13 year old piano player wants to attend Julliard.

3. Yamaha GH-1 with player Raised 25 cents. The customer just bought it for only 4K.

4. Tuned a D at the University for tonight's Jazz concert.

Saturday will be a prep on another D for an International Piano Series Piano solo concert Sat night and Sunday master class. Sometime during the day I'll need to head to the store and tune 2. I'll be on hand for the concert and will probably attend Sunday's master class as well.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/30/10 12:49 PM

Bob, my sympathies on the Aeolian spinets. I learned on these things when they were new. Unpleasant little things indeed. At least you had a D as consolation!
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/30/10 05:50 PM

Someone rented their D for a concert Sunday afternoon, and no one seems to know if there is a tuner scheduled. I'm on call, on Sunday just in case no tuner shows up!
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/02/10 06:34 PM

Monday.
1. Service call at the college. Kawai GM-10. Loose damper guide rail screws. AGAIN! The tenor and bass section was loose. This is a typical problem with Kawai grands by the way... What is it with these things anyway? You can tighten the crap out of them and they manage to come loose again and again. I aligned up the rail(s) as good as possible but I still had dampers leaking through. I could see them lifting from the fronts sooner than the backs and visa versa. They were lifting left and right too. Dang things. So, I spent an hour messing with those until they shut off.
2. Tuned a Wurlitzer spinet. Raised pitch 1/2 tone in the middle section to a full tone up in the treble. Left an estimate on other stuff..
3. Tuned a Yamaha P22. Only a little flat. 438. R-440.
That's it for Monday!

Tuesday.
1. Tuned a Grinnell console. Actually, raised it 1/2 tone and only went over it once/ It came out pretty good considering. The hammers were sticking so badly that I decided to spend the rest of my time freeing them up. Used Protek on that. It worked.
2. Oh, dang,,,,,I tuned another Kawai KG 1-E. Was 438.. Left an estimate on that too...
3. Tuned an Everett spinet that I swear, someone was practicing on. No kidding. You should a heard it! Notes were, well, everywhere! B-3 and B-b 3 for example, were the same. So were the next two octaves above then, all of a sudden, a drastic drop to 2 keys flat then, the octave above was the same. I kept thinking, okay, who's been farting around with this piano huh? Some flunkies??? Over all, it was about 1 full tone flat with absolutely no rhyme ore reason whatsoever to it at all. Left another estimate....

That's it kiddies! I'm a liking this week!
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/02/10 10:35 PM

Life in the fast lane...
Monday: Kohler&Campbell Grand, 4' 10" tuned for several years, suprisingly stable. Go figure. In HS Sojin 6' a bit flat, T116 Yammy wild in the mid range, in home Samick 5' service many years, OK, in church DH Bald 5' 4," Sohmer Studio, and Story&Clark Con service many years, S&C needs to be retired, weak block. In home S&S M old customer, midrange letoff too high and a bit flat.

Tues: 2 UST7 and Kawai RX2 in church OK, teachers home Samick Studio, bit flat, brushed hammers, in church UST7, Kawai KG 6', Everett Studio, all a bit flat. In home Story&Clark Console, keybed dished in mid range, space bass hammers, up to pitch. In home Vose upright, 1921, was stored in horse trailer, pinblock shot and will dope one of these days. Guy is a lawyer and Vose family piano heirloom.

Tommorow 7 more, mostly Kawai.
Posted by: KawaiDon

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/02/10 11:18 PM

I worked on a Kawai today, too! :-) Well, a Shigeru Kawai . . .

Shigeru EX is going to Arizona for temporary use, needed to be prepped and voiced down. Coming along nicely, need to finish it tomorrow.

Don Mannino
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/03/10 01:26 AM

3 Euro uprights: A Bohemia 121, A Schimmel F series 48 inch, A Wm. Steinberg. No pitch adjustments, but voiced the Bohemia (I wish they'd give those hammers at least a little cushion before they leave the factory...), regulated the checking on the Steinberg (hammers getting smushed against the strings). Last piano was an old Bluthner grand that I'll be revisiting shortly because the new keyframe rest cloth I installed was just a tad too thick. A sweet old instrument.
Posted by: Terry Benge

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/03/10 04:56 AM

Don, I spent about 7 hours with Takanori Otake when he came to Ky. to do the first visit on a Shigeru. A Kawai dealer bought it for her home at the NAMM show. Just wanted to say he was very professional and thorough. He checked every note from top to bottom. He was very helpful with any questions I had. A wonderful experience for me.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/03/10 07:51 AM

Quote:
In home Vose upright, 1921,


Sam, maybe you already know this but, many techs do not. Bear in mind that the old Vose & Sons upright, had tapered tuning pins. You can tap them in gently to tighten them. No doping required.

Jer
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/03/10 07:57 AM

Tuned my Steinway A... working through a full reg since it's been in the house for a week now. Then level strings/hammers and try my hand at some light voicing across the board. M&H A gets tuned today.
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/03/10 08:03 AM

A VIP (Very Important Piano) tonight. It belongs to the Mill Manager at my full time job! Actually, it is right up my alley. A Wurlitzer Console that I gave a 2 semi-tone pitch raise and tuning a couple months ago. Nice that my advice is being taken on another tuning now. (The daughter had something to say about it...) Be interesting to see how far it fell in pitch.
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/03/10 10:22 PM

Jerry this is one of those but the strings are nearly against the plate and it's a half step flat. Previous tuna tapped and there's not much room left. The owners are amenable to new board, block, bridges, action, etc., in a few years so I'm just buying time till then. Board is split, loose ribs, bass bridge apron is split, yada, yada, yada. Kid taking lessons.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/03/10 10:23 PM

1. Tuned a nice Yamaha console from Japan this morning. Close to pitch.
2. Tuned a Young Chang style similar to the Yamaha M1A. Close to pitch.
3. Tuned a Yamaha P22, Raised 1/4 tone from September.
4. Tuned a Kawai K-30E Raised 1/4 tone from September. Same house. Drove 150 miles besides. One of these pianos was my sisters so, I got paid lunch and a few brownies. YUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMY!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/03/10 11:26 PM

Rode my bike on a beautiful day in the Bay Area Hills, made phone calls, fixed a bathroom sink, went to the dentist and got a cool little finger hacksaw from him for use on pianos. I needed a day off(of sorts)!
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/04/10 08:21 AM

A finger hacksaw? Who's finger you gonna hacksaw off huh? Stay away from me with that thing!

Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/04/10 09:18 AM

Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT
A finger hacksaw? Who's finger you gonna hacksaw off huh? Stay away from me with that thing!


thumb

Just don't give me the finger, Jerry, and we'll be fine...

It's just a miniature hacksaw for very precise, small cuts. Neat little device. I never could find one at OSH.
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/04/10 01:03 PM

Had my first..."omg, my Husband didn't call you to cancel?"
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/04/10 02:41 PM

Monster,

Bummer...I hate it when that happens...unfortunately, it's the occasional fact of the home service person's life.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/04/10 04:51 PM

Did you give HER the finger Monster? mad Kidding of course!

Tuned
1. Steinway D.
2. Another Steinway D.
3. Steinway B.

Very nice day for me today!
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/04/10 05:24 PM

Wish I had mittens on...haha, no, just said it's not a problem, call me when you want to reschedule and put note in my book...next time I make sure they know about the no show fee....

Did get my M&H A tuned today and visited the local piano store...
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/04/10 08:40 PM

Loaded up the piano tipper today to replace casters on a big old upright. I had to lift the piano away from the wall so I didn't scratch the wood floor. Muscles are feeling it now - I'm getting too old for that. That piano tipper has made me $$$$ over the years. Tuned four pianos as well. A Baldwin Acro with a loose bridge cap, Baldwin L with loose pins, Kimball Console, and Steinway S. Day off on Friday ---taking a bike ride to the beach.
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/04/10 09:40 PM

Did just 4 today. Story&Clark console, marginal block. Reguled Mason&Hamilin console fallboard, tuned Seiler 7' in church, Kohler&Campbell grand. 5 tomorrow.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/04/10 11:09 PM

Yamaha u-3 gray market with hammer spring cords all breaking. Fortunately, still under warranty from dealer...hope they honor it!

Kawai GM 12

Insurance appraisal on a 100 year old Steinway "0" that was rebuilt in the 80s and barely used afterward. It would have been a great piano except for the cracks in the soundboard that you could drive a truck through. The shims didn't hold so well.

Samick Kohler and Campbell, 15 years old. 30-80 cent pitch raise. I hate to say this, but while they aren't great pianos, these are WAYYYY better than the last K and Cs made in the US.
Posted by: Larry Buck

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/04/10 11:24 PM

Stopped in early this morning to make a couple of notes in a Steinway B I recently bellied for a Tech.

Notched the bridges in my freshly bellied Steinway O.

Had lunch, feet up on my desk, sun streaming in my large south facing top floor windows.

Pinned the bridges, in the fading late afternoon sun still coming through the windows.

It is official, the days have been getting longer since Dec 21/22 and it is now noticeable.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/04/10 11:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Larry Buck
Stopped in early this morning to make a couple of notes in a Steinway B I recently bellied for a Tech.

Notched the bridges in my freshly bellied Steinway O.

Had lunch, feet up on my desk, sun streaming in my large south facing top floor windows.

Pinned the bridges, in the fading late afternoon sun still coming through the windows.

It is official, the days have been getting longer since Dec 21/22 and it is now noticeable.


Sounds positively idyllic, Larry. Lunch at a desk instead of behind the wheel--I like that idea. I think I need to do more shop work.
Posted by: Terry Benge

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/05/10 05:02 AM

Started with a Baldwin console that had been in a fire. They said it wasn't hurt and played great. Had rusty stings and keys sticking but it did tune up. Mouse droppings between keys.
A Henry F Miller spinet raised 30 cents that no one would like to tune,
A Kimball console raised 50 cent.
A DH Baldwin (Samick).
Finally a Pearl River 5'8' raised 10 cent which was the best one today even if they are not great.
Drove 200 miles and had lunch behind the wheel.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/05/10 03:24 PM

1. Tuned a Schimmel 6' something in a home.
2. Tuned another Schimmel grand.
3. Tuned a Yamaha P22. Then re-arranged a Dampp Chaser system that some IDIOT installed with cords flopping all over, the baffle dangling underneath the heater rod, not attached to anything, the humidistat hanging directly over top of the humidifier etc. Gee people, either install it right or go and do something else.
4. Tuned a nice older Yamaha G-3 that I did come action work on a year ago.

The last 3 were in a church. Another nice pleasant day today. And, I was done by noon!
Posted by: Eric Gloo

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/05/10 05:21 PM

1. Tuned a Janssen console that hadn't been tuned in forever. Discovered the apron broken in 4 spots, with one piece laying on the plate behind the bass strings. Funny thing is...the bass sounded better than most Janssens.

2. Local nursing home pianos. Was supposed to tune 2 there, but one of the floors was "closed" due to diarrhea and vomiting (sorry if you're eating while reading this). So just one there...a Crown/Geo. Bent upright (or "Orchestral Grand" as it says on fallboard) - 4 pedals. Unglued jacks, sticker felt coming unglued, some brass flange problems...no "feet" on the action brackets, so the action can't stand on its own...Have to go back for repair, and to tune the one on the "sick" floor.

Got home early...could have rescheduled something else...but it's Friday afternoon and I'm self-employed. I make the rules!
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/05/10 05:42 PM

Cable Nelson spinet 50 cent flat, pitch raise and tune. Hasn't been tuned in years.
Posted by: Terry Benge

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/05/10 05:48 PM

Tuned a Weber console, quite nice. A really bad Baldwin M that needs voiced and regulated but the lady don't think so. A 5'2" Young Chang 15 cent pitch raise and called it quits. It's Friday!
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/05/10 09:18 PM

Murpheys law day. Wurlitzer Console pitch raise and sluggish wip and butt flanges. Has the long actions bracket screws with spacers. Snug coming out. CLP the action lube pedal pivots, reinstall action, tighten bracket screws from bass to treble and last one, nearly to the bottom and SNAP. Of course the pedal rod comes in on that side of the action so push the sustain pedal and the action lifts. Gotta go back and drill it out. DOH!

Story and Clark console pitch raise with grand style lid and 2 hinge pin. One of the pins disappears into bronze colored shag rug not to be found again.

GC1 diskclavier pitch raise. KGA teacher piano and another GC1 diskclavier.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/05/10 10:00 PM

I know it's not funny Sam but, I am laughing. Been there done that too. Lost screws. Found them before from stepping on the tip of the screw head too. Then I had a nice sore spot in my foot along with some bleeding in an otherwise clean sock. Why does it always seem to land point UP? And if not that, it's gone completely?

You know what REALLY gets me? Customers, read up please. Keep your flopping, flying, dusting gizmos away from the piano when we're there and while it's apart PLEASE???? I know you mean well but, leave the dusting and cleaning to us? You cannot count the amount of times that I have had a customer attempt to dust their piano when I am not looking, or even when I am only to watch them even after I just finished saying WATCH OUT FOR THE SCREWS!!! Hit them with their dusting thingy and knock them some place where we can't find them. What's worse, is that 99% of the time, the customer never saw it in the first place and has no idea where it fell and still expects us to look for an hour until we find it again.

Another annoying thing is when a client walks in, sees a screw setting there, picks it up (if they don't accidentally drop it into the action first) and say, gee, what's this doing here?

Funny how well some things work with one less screw though isn't it?
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/06/10 12:03 AM

Originally Posted By: Sam Casey
Murpheys law day. Wurlitzer Console pitch raise and sluggish wip and butt flanges. Has the long actions bracket screws with spacers. Snug coming out. CLP the action lube pedal pivots, reinstall action, tighten bracket screws from bass to treble and last one, nearly to the bottom and SNAP.



Every time I work on one of these I remind myself to bring my drill and screwdriver bit along next time...and then by the time I need it again, I've forgotten. I hate those screws. My wrist gets sore just thinking about them. And having one break off, what a joy!

Kawai RX-2 that I tune regularly (and played for a party around Christmas). Tuned and lubed the rep spring "hooks."

Checked out a new Vogel for a new client to make sure it wouldn't implode.

Pitch adjusted, tuned, straightened the key spacing, and squirted a couple of small bottles worth of Protek on a Howard spinet that had keys rubbing in all directions, lots of tight flanges, and all kinds of scraping, clicking and other ungodly noises emanating from within. Why were these pianos even built??? PSOs, for sure.

Kawai k-30, tuned and polished the case.

Yamaha u-1, gray market, tuned, got a nice piano valentine from the little girl who plays on it. Made my day.
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/06/10 12:19 AM

About a thousand years ago I was ushered into a Lake Shore Drive apartment that consisted of half the entire floor of the building. Deep, rich solid cherry paneling, recessed lighting before it became trendy, antiques and at the end of the room a 957 Acro, french provincial, matched burl. To get to the prize I had to cross the lovely room on SNOW WHITE carpet. I'm talking blinding, brilliant white carpet. Blue haired lady leads me to piano. I routinely pull the bottom board, especially on those old Acros to check for things amiss, like cracked bass bridges. The inside of this piano looked like a tomb with black stringy cobwebs and an inch of black sooty dust. When I pulled the bottom board back the old gal freaked at the dirt, grabbed a handy dust rag, dropped down on all arthritic fours and tossed the rag into the mess before I could stop her. It was like nuclear fallout across that carpet, raining little black dots that would explode into smudges if you touched them. The more she paniced the worse it got. When done the piano looked like belched forth coal dust in an arc across the carpet. Never ever saw her again after that service.
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/06/10 10:50 AM

Today is prep for SB party. We use a projector and display above the mantel. So I'm cleaning house...
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/06/10 06:05 PM

1. Pre Rental tuning at the store on a Yamaha U-3.
2. Kurtzman Gordon Laughead Spinet - Not a bad piano. The four wound string unisons in the lower tenor had their own separate bridge and capo, which made for a smooth temperament.
3. Schumann Baby Grand, Raised 1/4 note. It sounded like a Winter spinet on three legs, but the action was good. The customer bought it off of Craig's list.
4. Lester Betsy Ross spinet with rusty strings. Was 80 cents flat. Raised and tuned at 20 cents flat. The customer got it free from a neighbor's garage.
5. Concert tuning on a D. Someone raised it to A-442 last Sunday, but didn't quite make it there. The bass and treble were at 442, and the middle was 441. I lowered it all to 441. Taking it down to 440 would have made for an unstable tuning, given the time constraints.
Posted by: Eric Gloo

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/06/10 06:52 PM

1. Kohler & Campbell spinet in a church for a performance tomorrow. They called me last Sunday. Piano was donated, and had never been tuned in its life until I started tuning it 2 years ago. Major pitch raise each time. Today was no different...1/2 step today to just under 440. I know it sounds better than when I started...it sounded pretty good once the sexton started up the vacuum cleaner, too...sigh

2. Caught up on phone calls. Now booked through the first week of March. Keep those snow storms away from central New York, please.
Posted by: wcctuner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/06/10 09:13 PM

2. Caught up on phone calls. Now booked through the first week of March. Keep those snow storms away from central New York, please.

Don't worry-they're all south of you. In southern New Jersey today-22 inches, 26 at Philly airport. Could be more Wednesday.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/06/10 09:40 PM

Installed a new faucet in my kitchen, then went to tune a 1903 Bluthner over damper upright. The case is fantastic! A massive instrument with cast iron plate, beautiful tone, quite tunable. Not that much fun with the dampers where they are and all, but a gem. It took me 2 1/2 hours to pr and tune it. I got a couple of pics of the action that I'll try to post soon.
Posted by: Bill Bremmer RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/07/10 01:59 AM

A nice lady with a 7 foot Kawai RXA e-mailed me early today. This is a custom, hand crafted piano meant for performing artists either as a practice or warm up instrument before a performance or a performance in a small venue. I was going to take the day off but this one really intrigued me, so I did it. She lives just over 100 miles away in a very remote part of Southwest Wisconsin. She specifically asked for the original EBVT, saying that a local technician had recommended it based on her interaction with her.

I drove nearly 100 miles and following my navigator, tuned onto a gravel road. It was a windy road and the previous night's winds had blown snow across it in a few places. My car made it through the rough and icy spots, however. I had to take a few turns onto other gravel roads. A little less than a mile from my destination, two large, black dogs set out, chasing my car. While I knew they were only farm dogs with nothing else to do, it made me recall stories of Eastern Europe I had read of wolves coming out of the forest, frightening the horses pulling a carriage, causing it to upset and the wolves attacking and devouring the human occupants inside. I wondered briefly if I would be able to get out of my car when I arrived or if there would be a couple of Cujo type dogs slobbering on my passenger window, eager to tear me apart if I dared open the car door. It seems I outran the dogs, though.

I called the customer on my cellphone, saying that I had arrived. The entire area was blanketed in deep snow but she came up to greet me and led me down a path that had been cleared. Once inside the modest looking (from the exterior)home, I found a spacious, immaculate and beautiful living space adorned with original paintings. I immediately noticed that the air inside was warm and humid because my glasses instantly fogged up. She had a digital temperature and humidity gauge that read: 65º F. 55% Relative Humidity. She said that the home had been designed to hold the heat and moisture and it never dried out.

Before I did anything else, I cleaned the piano with the vacuum cleaner I brought with me down the hill. Although the piano appeared to be clean, she was surprised how much dust I got out of it.

I asked her to tell me what I could do for her. She said that she had never been satisfied with the way the piano sounded when she played the music she was studying. Two of the hammers had a slight click in them which I traced to slightly loose pinning, so I re-pinned them. She said the wound strings were too brilliant to which I agreed and voiced them with ordinary shoulder needling. The hammers did not need reshaping. The alignment was nearly flawless but I corrected the flaws that I saw. She said that when using the soft pedal, she was getting a strange sound. I traced that to the shift pedal allowing the hammers to just barely brush (without striking) the neighboring strings. A quarter counterclockwise turn to the right cheek block shift pedal stop screw solved that problem. Otherwise, the piano was in perfect order. She had purchased it not long ago from a dealer who had prepared it quite well.

She told me that the nearest technician (whom I know well but was still 40 miles away from her home) had recommended me and the original EBVT (not EBVT III). He had said that he could tune it but only using an electronically calculated program. He said that it was as good as he could do but he knew I could do something better. The piano was perfectly at A-440 and the unisons were quite good even though she had it tuned previously in September.

I set out constructing the temperament using direct interval readings for the pure 4ths and 5ths and finding the exact reading for the equal beating intervals I determined aurally and stored the data as I found it. As I progressed outside the temperament octave, I was surprised to find out how much stretch this piano could take. Most Kawai pianos I have known had low to only moderate inharmonicity at most but this one had as much as I had ever seen from any make or model of piano.

For me, this was not a problem but an advantage. I could disguise the tempered 5ths with the stretched octaves better than with most pianos. I took a good 2 hours and then some to create a custom program and tune the unisons as perfectly beatlessly as possible and make the whole unison hang on to the pitch for each note which I had determined. While I worked, the lady sat at an easel painting her newest creation.

When I finished, we heard the "pipe organ" effect as usual. Beyond that, however, I showed that I could play octaves and 5ths up and down the piano, let them ring and no beats could be heard, either from the purely tuned 5ths or the tempered ones. I showed her how with the tempered 5ths, I could cancel their beats by the way I stretched the octaves. I showed her the canceling effect in the RBIs that made chords sound purer than they really were. I played through the cycle of 5ths and demonstrated the distinct "color" each tonality has but still, nothing sounded too harsh or out of tune, even among the remote keys.

She asked about the minor keys and E-flat minor in particular. I told her immediately that with any well-temperament, that was the darkest, most disturbing sound, very moody. I played the E-flat minor and she beamed with delight! It seemed rather unusual to me that she would find such joy in that very dark and moody sound. She said, "That is exactly the sound I have been looking for!"

I put the piano back together then asked her if she would like to play something for me. She immediately replied, "Yes!" She handed me the score to a Fauré Nocturne in the key of E-flat minor (6 flats). She played from memory as I watched the score. She reached a moment in the piece where she applied the soft pedal and then slowed the tempo and upon a chord marked as broken (not all keys played at once but in rapid succession and then held with the damper pedal). She played that chord extremely softly as it was indicated, pianissimo.

"Yes, yes, YES"!, she exclaimed, this is exactly what I have been looking for!" "Everything sounds so pure and clean and now I can play that passage more softly than I ever dared to before and yet it speaks to me just the way I imagined it should!" (Are you reading this, Piqué?) She played it again and then tears flowed from her eyes. "Thank you!", she exclaimed. Her husband had been listening and remarked, "I have never heard that piano express so much emotion before."

I replied that well-temperament does indeed restore the emotion to music that ET takes away. It provides for happier sounds as well a sadder sounds. It provides for more consonance when that is desired and sharper, more incisive dissonance when that is the goal. I added, "In ET, all music is put on Prozac" to which they both laughed.

The lady then asked what my fee would be and I quoted a price for the long trip and the time I had spent. She rounded that off and doubled it. I would say it was worth my time on a Saturday.
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/07/10 02:08 AM

I set up a weeks worth of appointments, (30 at the moment) and got a warrenty adjustment on the Goodyears for my RAV. (Goodyear Fortera Triple Tread with tread seperation after 30K). Went home, did a bit more office work, played a video game, had supper and watched the tube with the wife. Peaceful, easy feelin....
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/08/10 08:38 AM

Today? ZERO. Me home sick today. Had 4 tunings scheduled. 3 homes, 1 church... Murphys Law strikes again.
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/08/10 08:53 AM

Jerry, with our "big storm" coming, you might be home a few days. Hope your feeling better soon.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/08/10 09:00 AM

Thanks Monster.

What? A storm? Oh goody..... Just looked at the national weather service. Not looking good for us for the next few days. Play time? We get to play?
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/08/10 09:33 AM

Play time?? more than I want. Making some tools today and mating hammers to strings. Going to fix the leaky bathroom faucet. Waiting for my casters from the platters (sp?), they said they'd be done a week 1/2 ago...those guys are the worst, but when they have your stuff...
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/08/10 09:56 AM

Went for a 3 hour bike ride up to the local summit at 3,000 feet. Got a little chilly, but nothing like you folks in the frozen northland. It's pretty funny to hear Californians complain about the weather.

Removed the draconian flow restricter from my newly installed kitchen faucet, which was at a trickle. Rewired the living rooms stereo speakers.

Tuned, and touched up regulation and voicing on my piano. Jammed on a freshly tuned piano with my guitar playing friend Robert, AKA Martini Max. Sweet!
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/08/10 06:14 PM

Only did 3 today but all were pitch raises. 1st was a little church circa 1850 abandoned by the county and donated to a small group who promised to keep up the old cemetary in exhange for the old building. Clapboard, outhouse, wood stove. Called a few weeks ago with Kimball upright and Adam Schaff upright, both donated and hauled to church in a horse trailer. I'm to pick. Both were 1920. Best of the worst was the Kimball, 48 inch. Was able to bring it up to pitch, reglue a split key and align some dampers. Gospel picking and singing tonite!

Next Wurlitzer spinet, CLP butts, 1/2 step flat, ease front rail bushings, etc.
Samick studio with back checks tapping fallboard, 1/2 step flat. Owner was rabid, foaming political "independent." Brief, but interesting conversation...
Posted by: Terry Benge

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/08/10 07:12 PM

Picked up action from a Schumman console, 15 broken damper springs and 20-25 broken hammer butt flange cords.
Had a no show at a church to be let in.
Had oil changed in car and set up more appointments.
Expecting 2-4 inches of snow next 24 hours.
Posted by: Larry Buck

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/08/10 07:47 PM

Tuned for;

http://www.shenyunperformingarts.org/

This weekend on Sat and Sunday.

Yamaha CFIII about 4 years old.

Stayed for the Show on Sunday with my 18 year old son and his Grand Mother (my mother)

If anyone has the opportunity to see or otherwise be involved with this show.

Do it.

It is a fabulous show and a truly great cast of people.
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/08/10 08:54 PM


Totally sunny here all day...so......I played hooky....and went to the courts.....shhhhh

Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/08/10 10:29 PM

Today I have been working on the band library, giving me a real appreciation for librarians for large ensembles.

Yesterday we went to the Pacific Flyway Festival, and we were able to go to St. Peter's Chapel at Mare Island, the largest collection of Tiffany windows west of the Mississippi. I saw a reversal of symbols on the way out there: A dove attacking a hawk!
Posted by: Rod Verhnjak

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/08/10 11:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Silverwood Pianos

Totally sunny here all day...so......I played hooky....and went to the courts.....shhhhh





Now I know why my phones rang twice as much today. grin
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/08/10 11:18 PM

Originally Posted By: Larry Buck
Tuned for;

http://www.shenyunperformingarts.org/

This weekend on Sat and Sunday.

Yamaha CFIII about 4 years old.

Stayed for the Show on Sunday with my 18 year old son and his Grand Mother (my mother)

If anyone has the opportunity to see or otherwise be involved with this show.

Do it.

It is a fabulous show and a truly great cast of people.


I tuned a Hamburg Steinway 4 times for this troupe when they were in San Jose last year. I hope I get the gig again when they're in town.

Pretty amazing group of performers, very interesting to watch the dancers practice during the tuning. The ochestra, particularly the drums, made me glad I had my ETD with me.
Posted by: Bill Bremmer RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/08/10 11:37 PM

I got some feedback via e-mail from my Saturday job:

Date: Monday, February 8, 2010 6:32 PM
From: laura *****
To: billbremmerrpt
Subject: Tuning update
Size: 5 KB
Hi Bill -
Thank you so much again. I hope that your trip home was uneventful in a good way.

I really like the sound of the piano and appreciate the significance of your ability to optimize the piano's unique qualities. It is remarkable that your tuning seems to naturally resolve my specific concerns: it really opened up the 3rd octave from sounding indistinct and nasally, and made the 4th octave a stronger, more pleasing foundation for the treble. The fifth octave is still sweet and the 6th octave sings out more. The voicing balanced the dynamic of the bass and the 3rd octave: overall I feel that the tone of the entire piano is more balanced with a smoother transition from one octave to the next.
Re the soft pedal adjustment: I'm still figuring out what that does. The pedal effect is now pretty subtle, so I may want to split the difference.

It's really a pleasure to work with you: it seems like the piano needs to be tuned every 4 months, so I will see you at least by June.

Take care,
Laura

********************

All of this using the original EBVT and tempered octaves. No two octave sizes the same as another. Unequal temperament. She was afraid to use the soft pedal only because it over shifted and the hammers were slightly brushing neighboring strings, creating an odd effect. Now, she has to learn to use it all over again. I will gladly drive over 100 miles to serve this customer whenever she wants me, as long as I can fit it into my schedule.
Posted by: RPD

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/09/10 12:00 AM

Visited an old friend/client, and found her piano to be heavily smelling of smoke...but otherwise in good shape after 8 years!...house fire...gave some free advice, and promised her it'll air out, eventually.

Tuned 5 today, and drove 135 miles round trip. Sold a full Dampp Chaser system for a Yamaha C2 pitched at -24C overall. To get to this piano, I climbed into a house elevator with my new client, and shot up 3 floors to an unbelievable room overlooking Lake Michigan.

Did a Service Bond tuning for our local Yamaha dealer in another town.

Listened to some loud music while in the car. Headphones for ear protection in homes, and CD's cranked in the car. Makes sense to me!

Got a total-gas-happily flipped out-smile because of my new netbook with Tune-Lab loaded on it...did ALL my updates in the field and arrived home to zero work at the home computer as a result.

Noticed that TuneLab has Bill Bremmer tunings pre-loaded on it. Considered trying it but got scared I'll like it and then Bill would be right. No, I decide I can't allow this. (just kidding Bill, I'll give it a whirl once I know what I'm doing with the new program!)

Life is good.

RPD
Posted by: Supernick5000

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/09/10 12:01 AM

I'm not a tech, but I absolutely love love reading this thread!!! Sometimes It makes me wanna learn the trade and become a tech myself. I hope this one just keeps running.
Posted by: Peter Sumner- Piano Technician

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/09/10 01:19 AM

Interesting thread.....
Had half a relaxing day...with a bit of work.
Just got back from a week in Sitka AK where I serviced the Steinway D they bought last year and then was on duty for the Sitka Jazz Festival....
While I was there I did a couple of private calls and some outreach in two of the community's schools....Taking an upright apart, throwing (gently) the keys to the kids and then pretending not to know how to put them back in....got some great questions....90 5 and 6 year olds....

Had the privilege of presenting 2 clinics at the Jazz Festival on Saturday entitled 'The innermost workings of the Steinway Grand Piano'...again, some great questions and a lot of pride as the funding for this piano was raised from public donations in this community of less than 9,000 folks.

I'm happy to report that the piano sang and soared under the expert hands of Marco Diaz, pianist with the John Santos Sextet...one of the headline acts who had made the long trip, like me, from the Bay Area....An amazing festival...I hope I get the chance to go back!
Posted by: Phil D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/09/10 12:14 PM

Tuned an Evestaff Miniroyal. First time I've been presented with a short piano and felt confident approaching it. Got the temperament right after half an hour, was very careful checking 5ths, 12ths and 17ths to balance the octaves and achieve a good stretch. The top and bottom are now perfectly balanced, with nice progression all the way up for all the intervals. The customer watched me all the way through and I explained what I needed to be doing, and about inharmonicity. Very satisfied customer at the end! A very pleasing job.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/09/10 03:21 PM

Zero again for me today. Home sick still.
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/09/10 03:31 PM

Been aligning strings and hammers, tweaking dampers, getting ready to level strings.

Jerry, gettin' much snow? been snowing all day here, only about 4-5" so far.

So what heck do you have anyway? That old eye and a-- h--- problem? can't see gettin your a-- out of bed to go to work?...jk

Hope your over it soon.

Les
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/09/10 03:42 PM

Got a recurrence of bronchitis and a fever with coughing from my toes on up. Doc says lots of that going around. It's a relapse of what people had earlier. Seems weird to me. Never heard of that one before. Always thought once you had it, you were free for the year and if you caught something else, it was a new bug. Guess not.

Yeah, snowing quite a bit here too. I hear the roads are slushy and not good driving. I get to stay home, post here and annoy you people instead.
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/09/10 03:46 PM

uck... where did I put those vitamins ....
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/09/10 03:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Rod Verhnjak
Originally Posted By: Silverwood Pianos

Totally sunny here all day...so......I played hooky....and went to the courts.....shhhhh





Now I know why my phones rang twice as much today. grin


Yes Rod,
Anyone who called with a 39” Cecilian with the Sterling drop action I told them to give you a call.

That is after I put extra epoxy on the bridge pins............

Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/09/10 09:18 PM

I only worked 1/2 a day today, from 8am to 8pm grin First customer had a Steinway Console in the front room, and a Kimball console in the back room. He's a local musician/songwriter. He gave me some copies of a magazine article featuring him and his girl friend. Second customer also had two pianos, a Schimmel Grand in the living room and an Esssex upright in the bedroom. She's a CPA. Third customer was a Community Center with a donated Baldwin E-50. I eased the sticky keys and raised the piano one note to A=440. By this time it was rush hour, and raining, so I'm late to my 6pm, who has a Schumann studio, very unevenly out of tune. Pitch ranged from 8c flat to 50c flat in erratic increments. Tunelab did a good job of evening everything out at A=440. This customer was a musician as well.
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/09/10 09:26 PM

Did 8 today. Back is sore. Samick grand with soundboard decal peeled up and laying against G#3. "What's that buzz??" Picked the loose parts out with tweezers. UST7, pitch raise on Acro, 3 more UST7's Aoelian Knabe 6' and Straub upright 1905 with relief carving on the sides and relief sparrows and branches carved front over a Circassin venneer. Exquisite case.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/09/10 11:42 PM

I only did 5, but two were pitch raises.

Yamaha u-1 (non gray market, close to pitch, tuned, teflonned capstans, lubed damper lever springs and rod tips, regulated let off.

Baldwin L in a church, maybe 10 years old. Great potential, but currently an ear killer. Bright and whiny, needs string work and voicing. I hope they agree to the work. It should sound great with the proper treatment.

Boston 118 upright: tuned, touched up let off.

Weber (by Young Chang) 48": another harsh thing, last tuned by me 4 years ago. Pitch raise and tune. Brushed hammers beforehand so my ears didn't bleed too much.

1905 Kranich and Bach 6'+ grand. Wow! This is an interesting piano. Every string goes through little holes in the agraffe plate. Too bad there wasn't enough light for pictures on my phone. It's a great sounding old thing, but a real PITA tune. Worth restoring, IMHO. The case is an ornate walnut or rosewood French Provincial art case. NO pitch adjustment despite not having been tuned since 5 years before being moved 400+ miles up here from the Palm Desert in SoCal.
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/09/10 11:48 PM

Did you pull the action on that old bird? Coil spring flange washers on shanks and wips. Damper flanged glued, (not screwed) to tray. Very non standard parts. They can have sweet tone and nice cases, however.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/10/10 12:26 AM

Sounds interesting. I didn't pull the action this time. Next time, I plan on trying to get a few action issues sorted out. Should be interesting!
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/10/10 01:05 AM

The worst thing on the old Kranich & Bachs are the actions that have to be completely disassembled to do anything. You cannot just unscrew the action from the keyframe; part of the action frame goes under the keys. I have never figured out how to take them apart.
Posted by: RPD

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/10/10 01:13 AM

Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT
Got a recurrence of bronchitis and a fever with coughing from my toes on up. Doc says lots of that going around. It's a relapse of what people had earlier. Seems weird to me. Never heard of that one before. Always thought once you had it, you were free for the year and if you caught something else, it was a new bug. Guess not.


Jer, both Jane and I got a dose three weeks ago...I was home for one week w/low grade fever...then, felt better. Back to work, then the coughing started...awful. I've been punching down Robitussin for a week...FINALLY feeling better...still not 100%...

I'm not sure (oink oink) what I had. I think it was just a mild (oink oink) cold or maybe a (oink) flu. Come on over and we'll (oink oink weeeeeee oink) make dinner...I'm sure its not catchy......oink...snort...

Hey, I just thought, I wonder if wonder if we had the swine flu??

RPD
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/10/10 08:46 AM

Originally Posted By: BDB
The worst thing on the old Kranich & Bachs are the actions that have to be completely disassembled to do anything. You cannot just unscrew the action from the keyframe; part of the action frame goes under the keys. I have never figured out how to take them apart.


That's what I remember about one that I saw years ago, though I did no surgery on that one. Aren't these the ones with the damper wires that unscrew?
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/10/10 01:46 PM

I know one thing Rick, taking an anti biotic immediately this time around, seems to be starting to knock it out of me a hell of a lot sooner than last time.

Others have suggested the same thing too, possibly the pig - Flu. I wonder too... Wasn't tested for it so, who knows?

Zero today too... Home still. Slowly feeling better but not making a dime! Falling further and further behind in my work schedule. I have 2 appointments left open yet in February. I have 9 openings left yet in March and half of April is open yet. Once I get to feeling better, I'll have all Feb and March filled up in no time flat. About all I feel like doing now though is either this, or sleeping...
Posted by: Cy Shuster, RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/10/10 04:27 PM

New customer: 15-year-old grand with an 8-inch crack across the bass corner of the soundboard, and minimal tuning pin torque. The kicker? Dampp-Chaser system unplugged and coiled up underneath it (sigh).

Also tuned a 1920's A.B. Chase small grand with a very nice transition bridge in the tenor. What happened to these good designs?

Hope you feel better, Jerry; I remember the last time the swine flu came around! I've got both of my shots...

--Cy--
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/10/10 09:51 PM

5 today. Chinese K&H grand, brushed hammers to kill the TWANG. U1 circa 1975 for a teacher tuned up very sweetly. Has cracked keytop to be replace August when teaching slows. 2 UST7's and a KG grand with a singing top lock. A lot of racket in that silly thing.

7 tomorrow.
Posted by: PianoTech123

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/10/10 09:59 PM

Jerry,
Myself and a roommate had the same thing...first round knocks you out for 5 days, second round only for 2. Really, really, weird because it's totally the same cold and same cough just 3 weeks apart. I canceled all my appointments for the snow which never came. Currently sampling the new Hanami Ale from Smuttynose (NH) to make up for it.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/10/10 10:12 PM

Thanks for the well wishes you guys, I appreciate it. Very strange illness indeed! I know of more people that have or have had, the exact same thing. The pharmacist said that the coughing which comes from your toes, can easily last up to 12 weeks! This was true on my first bout with it. Hope not for this time through. Gotta get back to work soon, falling to far behind. Hate that part of being sick. Then it's catch up time which means, twice as much work to make up. Well, the positive part of that is at least, it's better than school work because we get paid to make it up! In the meantime, Sam and Bob will make it up for all of us. grin
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/10/10 10:17 PM

Another 1/2 day grin. The best stop was customer #4. An older couple in their early 80's. The patient was a 2 year old George Steck Vertical, 15 cents flat. 20 min into the tuning, the furnace is still running and it's getting hot, so I pull out the Hygrometer. When it hit 80 degrees and 35% humidity, 10 min later, I commented it's too hot for the piano. The husband likes it hot, she says. The heat continued to climb. It was 83 degrees when it finally shut off. I finished the tuning, and She sat down and played some Beethoven, and then into some Chopin. It turns out she had 20 years of lessons during childhood, and never did anything with it, but kept up her chops all these years.

I could see the joy on her smiling face as she played, and that's what it's all about.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/10/10 11:18 PM

Oh, and my worst job of the day? A 25 cent pitch raise on a quality grand with strings like rubber bands. Customer said he's tuned it 3-4 times in 3 years. Could have fooled me. That quality piano should have been much more stable than it was. But the worst part was the 13 year old kid on the couch kept dropping silent and deadly ones, about every octave and a fifth. Phew! Yuck! Give me a mask!
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/11/10 07:18 AM

Originally Posted By: Bob
Oh, and my worst job of the day? A 25 cent pitch raise on a quality grand with strings like rubber bands. Customer said he's tuned it 3-4 times in 3 years. Could have fooled me. That quality piano should have been much more stable than it was. But the worst part was the 13 year old kid on the couch kept dropping silent and deadly ones, about every octave and a fifth. Phew! Yuck! Give me a mask!


This reminds me of why Irish pianos only have 239 strings. If they had one more they would be two-farty!
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/11/10 04:30 PM

Zero..................................
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/11/10 04:33 PM

Assembling castors... the old S&S style with the little rollers in them.
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/11/10 08:27 PM

A Hamburg Steinway A, fairly new, the third time I have tuned it. I tuned it last May, and then about a year and a half before then, when the owner first got it new. The tuning is settling in.

I got some tickets for the Valentine's Day show at the nightclub I tune at. I also went to the much-reduced MacWorld Expo. My nephew's software won a Best of Show award.
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/11/10 10:15 PM

Baldwin Console 113K sn# plastic butts and dampers with corfam. Working so far...
Yammy G1, G2, 2 Hamiltons, dinky, tinny Kimball spinet with a dinky tinny sound, and Washburn spinet.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/11/10 10:37 PM

Quote:
Washburn spinet.


Gee, I stayed again today and did some laundry in a "washerndrier." Does that count Sam?
Posted by: Eric Gloo

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/11/10 10:40 PM

Today I had the privilege of cleaning 20-year-old cat vomit from the soundboard of a Mason & Hamlin "A".
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/11/10 10:49 PM

Another 1/2 day! Fixed an annoying buzz on a new grand. It sounded like a termination issue, but the hinge on the underside of the lid was missing a screw. The loose hinge was vibrating against the lid at F#6 and G6. Two other grand pianos had pins so tight, I extended my tuning hammer to 11, because 11 is better than 10. Pins in humid areas of the country are 40% tighter than up north, I would guess. Piano # two had tight jacks and hammer shank flanges. I've re pinned several on this piano in the past, and it's time to see if the maker will step up and warranty the work. The unusually cold winter is making parts stick that haven't stuck before.
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/11/10 11:25 PM

Jerry I'll bet your whirlpool tuned up better than my Washburn.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/11/10 11:35 PM

Sounds to me like you got burned while I got washed.
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/12/10 07:04 AM

Originally Posted By: Eric Gloo
Today I had the privilege of cleaning 20-year-old cat vomit from the soundboard of a Mason & Hamlin "A".


I have to ask... was it the cat or the vomit that was 20 years old? Maybe both?
Posted by: Eric Gloo

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/12/10 12:49 PM

Originally Posted By: UnrightTooner
I have to ask... was it the cat or the vomit that was 20 years old? Maybe both?


The vomit was 20-years-old.
Posted by: Loxias44

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/12/10 02:33 PM

Couldn't help but ask:

Was the cat 20 years old, or was the vomit 20 years old? smile
Posted by: Loxias44

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/12/10 02:34 PM

Gosh... note to self... read entire thread before asking questions... smile
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/12/10 09:38 PM

Zero again today boys. Got the whole week off. Gotta get back to the grindstone for sure next week before I go broke! Must be nice to have paid vacations huh???
Posted by: Eric Gloo

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/12/10 09:49 PM

Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT
Must be nice to have paid vacations huh???


But, most of the time, don't you feel like your job isn't even a job? That's the way I feel. I don't know a lot of people who can say that.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/12/10 09:55 PM

Not when I'm sick and not taking anything in, I don't. I do love this job otherwise.
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/12/10 10:45 PM

Vacation in a few weeks. Today, Lester spinet, cracked bass bridge, weak block, waterfall keys and is the apple of the lady's eye. A P22 that got a sharp knock on the board up top on the mid section, split the board, one rib and pulled away from frame for 12 inches. Tune it twice a year, 6 months buzzes like a chain saw, 6 months sound fine. I says, "we can fix that" Church says, "it'll do." Another P22, G2, UST7, Everett Studio, god awful Kimball studio and a basswood Kimball console that tuned up acceptably in a nasal, tinny sort of way.
Posted by: junmer

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/13/10 06:51 AM

I also did 9 yesterday. All Kawai K3's, all in one building. Done in 13 hours. Whew! Thanks Tunelab.
Posted by: Cy Shuster, RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/13/10 09:26 AM

Hi, JUNMER! Nice to see you here again! Nine? Five is my record so far, and they were all spinets, so I could sit down!

--Cy--
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/13/10 11:15 AM


Enjoying a bit of a forced vacation here at the moment because of all the road closures due to the winter Olympics event here.

Glad that I have a lot of shop work at the moment.

Glued to the set yesterday as the news story developed about the 21 year old luger from Georgia, Russia that lost control of his sled and left the track to slam into a metal pole at more than 90mph. He expired an hour later in care.

Even some of the veteran lugers are having trouble with this course...it is very fast and difficult course apparently.....

The men’s and women’s downhill is delayed again this morning...too much fog and rain is making the course slushy and dangerous.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/13/10 12:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Silverwood Pianos

Glued to the set yesterday as the news story developed about the 21 year old luger from Georgia, Russia that lost control of his sled and left the track to slam into a metal pole at more than 90mph. He expired an hour later in care.

Even some of the veteran lugers are having trouble with this course...it is very fast and difficult course apparently.....


Not having TV, I missed this. Tthis is the kind of thing I hate to hear about.

Rode up Mt. Umunhum Rd. this morning on my bike. No snow up there, about 60 degrees.

Yesterday, Bohemia 132 upright at pitch, non-expanding-bracket Young Chang 157, 1902 Bluthner (replaced action rest block felt), Charles Walter Studio.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/13/10 12:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT
Not when I'm sick and not taking anything in, I don't. I do love this job otherwise.


I'm with you there. Vacations are one thing: you plan for the time off. You can't plan for being sick. Get better soon, Jerry.
Posted by: junmer

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/13/10 12:35 PM

Hello Cy. That's what keeps me from being a regular participant here (pianos due to be tuned here and there). Nine is my record and it's the 3rd time I've done it. It really slowed me down on the last piano as my legs and back were kind of pulsating already. Stood up all the time.
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/13/10 02:52 PM


Hey Dave,
They have made changes to the track overnight to slow things down although it is not the fastest luge track on record.

The Goergian team was going to pack and leave for home yesterday. Other teams convinced them to stay on. When Georgia made their entrance at the opening ceremonies they received a standing O from the crowd.

Also I erred earlier in my posting. A person from Georgia is not Russian they are a Soviet. My mistake there....

So it is shop work for the next two weeks here...a refinish job, a stringing job and a hammer set. That should keep me occupied between events!
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/13/10 07:20 PM

I thought the opening ceremony had some great visual effects! Nice job, Canada! Who tuned the white grand piano?. Are you going to any of the events, Dan?
Posted by: Horowitzian

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/13/10 08:10 PM

Originally Posted By: Silverwood Pianos

Enjoying a bit of a forced vacation here at the moment because of all the road closures due to the winter Olympics event here.

Glad that I have a lot of shop work at the moment.

Glued to the set yesterday as the news story developed about the 21 year old luger from Georgia, Russia that lost control of his sled and left the track to slam into a metal pole at more than 90mph. He expired an hour later in care.

Even some of the veteran lugers are having trouble with this course...it is very fast and difficult course apparently.....

The men’s and women’s downhill is delayed again this morning...too much fog and rain is making the course slushy and dangerous.


Last I heard they moved the luge start downhill to reduce terminal speed as well as erected a fence in the area where that poor chap ate it.
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/14/10 11:36 AM

Yes Horo they are all starting down the track at the women’s starting point now. More fencing at that corner and the ice on the track has been softened to slow the sleds down.

Hey Bob,

Not sure on who tuned the white grand......visual effects were good and so were the many aboriginal costumes. (Furtado looked pretty good too in the blue dress that someone painted on her......)

The best seat in the house is right in front of the big screen in my living room but we have tickets to the gold medal hockey game.

Not going to many of the Olympic events but we are planning on attending the Paralympics that come after. In particular I want to see the blind skier who is in both the Olympics and the Paralympics.

Also the sledge hockey is really fun to watch, we might attend that too.

Do you know what a zip line is? We might try this one that goes a length of 170 meters and 6 storeys up over part of the downtown.....check it out at this link.......short video if you scroll down.....

http://vancitybuzz.blogspot.com/2009/11/olympic-zip-line-vancouver.html


Got lots of work to do but for some reason I am not getting it done.
You see hard work pays off in the long run. Procrastination pays off immediately.
Posted by: Rod Verhnjak

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/14/10 10:18 PM

Originally Posted By: Bob
I thought the opening ceremony had some great visual effects! Nice job, Canada! Who tuned the white grand piano?. Are you going to any of the events, Dan?


It's was a brand new Yamaha C6 prepped by Tom Clarke.
There was no White C7 available in NA.

It was tuned by Bob Bjerke for the opening ceremonies.

Tom was busy working at the Queen Elizabeth tuning a freshly rebuilt Steinway "D" for another event.

A tone of work in town for some techs for the next 3 weeks.
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/15/10 09:32 AM


Looking at an old Paul Werner 6 footer, from Dresden. Then two regular tunings and more tennis in the aft…….
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/15/10 10:12 AM

Shop work today. Fitting new keytops on a old Wurly grand and other action work. Tomorrow back into the field.
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/15/10 11:32 AM

This starting up a new business is slow, have a tuning for Tuesday morning. yippie Replacing my renickled casters on my S&S A. Then going to work on prepping the piano for voicing...I'm going to use a meld of Andre's and Renners suggestions.

Dan, I thought you said the roads were all closed for the Olympics...figured out a work around? haha or just bored in the shop?
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/15/10 01:26 PM


Les,
Yes most of the roads in the downtown peninsula are closed. I am over on another peninsula by UBC. The trouble is I am blocked by other closures too, so I am pretty much cut off from the rest of the city for the moment.
However this instrument is in this area so I don’t have to travel far. And it is close to the courts too......

Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/15/10 03:46 PM

Back to work again! Feeling better, still feel kinda crappy but, I have to work sooner or later!

Tuned 4 Yamaha P22's today in 2 different schools. Raised pitch 15-25 cents on each one.

Went over to my college from there. Shimmed a warped key slip on a Kawai K-2. At least a half dozen key fronts were catching on it.

Then, while at the college, shimmed a balance rail on a May Berlin upright to eliminate hammer bobbling. Needed more key dip. Was home by about 2:00 PM today. Resting and play time now that office work is completed.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/15/10 06:36 PM

On shimming those key slips, I like what Baldwin did for a while, installing a hex head screw on the key frame that could be adjusted to push the key slip away from the keys. We had a special wrench to turn the screw, and the key slip could be adjusted in seconds without removing it.
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/15/10 07:24 PM

You know Kawai suggests you bend the strip over your knee, rebending the metal bar in the strip. Bending those always makes me squeamish with that polyester finish.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/15/10 10:51 PM

I always liked that too Bob. It was one of Baldwin's good ideas!

Hey Sam, Have you tried that? I'm not sure that I would 'dare' to attempt that. It would be just my luck to break the thing in half.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/16/10 12:01 AM

Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT
I always liked that too Bob. It was one of Baldwin's good ideas!

Hey Sam, Have you tried that? I'm not sure that I would 'dare' to attempt that. It would be just my luck to break the thing in half.


I've done it...but I saw Don Mannino do it first at a convention. It works fine. They have metal reinforcement on the back. Never hurt the finish, either.
Posted by: Cy Shuster, RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/16/10 12:17 AM

The hex heads are a great idea!

I did some action repair on a 1921 A. B. Chase grand today, and when I removed the top stack, I found a signature in pencil on the underside of the hammer rail, facing the keys, where you'd only see it in disassembly. It read "Chase W", and it was in ornate Copperplate script. Must have been a relative!

Tomorrow I get to prep a new Estonia 190.

--Cy--
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/16/10 09:23 PM

1. Raised to pitch and tuned a 9' Bose. Last tuned in September.
2. Tuned + raised pitch from about 436-440, a Yamaha C-5 for a jazz concert tonight. Great tuning piano.
3. Tuned and raised pitch from 437 to A/440 a Steinway A... eh?
4. Tuned a Kawai (gee, another one) GM-10 raised from 437-440.
Removed an action on a UST-9. Lubricated the damper rod. Was squeaking when engaging the damper levers.
Lubricated balance rail pins on the same piano for the same reason. Keys squeaking.
Removed the action on the GM-10. Regulated the cheek block screw to stop action from going over to far, hammers hitting two notes instead of one.
Adjusted damper stop rail on same piano, clanking on upswing.
Regulated pedals. Lifting dampers off strings to quickly.


Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/17/10 09:51 AM

Yesterday offered up 13 hours of driving, tuning, fixing. Too much. Too tired.

to Foster City (30 miles from home) for a Kawai K-5. First tune in customer's home, straight out of box. Pitch adjust, misc. small prep items, tune 441 from much sharper.

20 more miles to San Francisco: Steck spinet from the 40s. Though this one is a bit worn, this is a well made little piano. Apparently the action can be removed without undue hassle because it rests ON the stickers. Pitch raised, 440, changed out the worn pedal spring cloth (N-a-a-a-asty creak) to leather. Backrail cloth doesn't work so well under that kind of stress.

25 miles to Half Moon Bay, via the coast route, Devil's slide, by Pillar Point--site of the Maverick's Big Wave competition last Saturday. Beautiful Day. Stopped to gaze at the ocean for a couple of minutes before installing a heater bar in an old Lester Grand that had been donated to a school. Revisited a Samick SG 150 small grand, pitch adjusted, tuned 440, repinned an underlever flange and a damper flange.

Back to the South Bay and to Santa Clara Convention Center for 3 Yamaha Uprights. This is for ASTA, the American String Teachers Association. The two U-1s were somewhere near 442, though some pitch adjustment was necessary in the midrange. The M5, also near 442 sounded like breaking glass. Pitch adjusted the bass, tuned it, and got the H out of there by around 10, wondering if the string teachers will be satisfied with their pianos at 442. This was kind of a last minute gig, and I was forced to add these to an already full schedule. Will revisit the crime scene this morning.

Was strongly tempted to hit the Hyatt Bar on the way out.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/17/10 07:09 PM

I had a very nice day again today. Love these 3 & 4 tuning days!

1. Tuned a nice little Yamaha G2 that I've been tuning since it was new and replaced the Chaser pads.
2. A NO SHOW. Made the appointment last night too yet, had a last minute cancellation for today so, filled it in with this one. Found out they wound up taking 2 of their kids to ER for breathing problems.... Forgiven...
3. Tuned a Yamaha P202 that I tune every year since 1980.
4. Tuned a little Everett spinet that I've also tuned for over 20 years.

Drove about 120 miles today too. Lovely day all in all!
Posted by: Larry Buck

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/17/10 07:15 PM

Tuning for the Grateful Dead(FURTHER) Tomorrow ...

The venue seats just under 12,000

No Biggie, done them before
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/17/10 07:57 PM

Larry, so will you get to hear em play?
Posted by: Larry Buck

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/17/10 08:33 PM

Sometimes.

Depends on the venue and the Tech Rider.

Last time I was able to stay ...they were "Rat Dog" then
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/17/10 08:40 PM

Rental tuning at Disney World, Evaluation on an older Steinway K, Check on a D at the University, and one of 5 scheduled tunings at a school. The humidity was only 21% in the over-heated rooms, so I raised pitch 25 cents on one, and rescheduled the other 4 for 2 weeks from now when it should be warmer and more humid. I sent an email to the principle asking them to turn down the heat in the music building. The unusually cold weather here has dried out the pianos, especially if the heat is too high. It should make for a busy spring and summer for me, once customers pay the $500 heat bills they weren't expecting!
Posted by: Terry Benge

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/18/10 05:10 PM

Started the day with a Baldwin M. @ Church. Much need of regulation and voicing. They will bring it up at next business meeting.
Next a Chickering console, not bad.
A newer Baldwin Hamilton with Stealth action, ha, ha. They crack me up with that one.
Setting up app. after that.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/18/10 06:06 PM

Tuned a Kawai GE-20
Tuned a Kohler & Campbell console
Tuned a Kawai NS-20A, raised pitch from 436-440.
Service call to check a Dampp Chaser system, replaced pads, touched up note, E-5. Funny, they were complaining that "E above the E above middle C sounds bad. The others sound good." Actually, that E sounded the best whereas, the rest sounded bad. I tuned it last in November at which time, the Chaser was unplugged and the DC tank was empty. It is now filled and turned on.... Was when I got there today.

Recommendation, plug it in, leave it alone and tune it again... Have appt set.
Posted by: Supernick5000

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/18/10 09:02 PM

Hello all Though I am NOT a tech I will share with you what I did today. At around noon I let in a local RPT to tune my new piano. Being that I have been following this thread I payed very close attention to what he did and his craft. I quickly earned a great deal of respect for what you guys do every day and appreciate the time you guys put in to learn these skills. He was a very nice guy, professionally dressed and took off his shoes at the door as I have a cream color carpet. He was polite and got straight to work. He immediately yelled out a "Holy SMOKES!!!" as he heard how out of tune my new Piano was. But that didn't last very long as within 1 1/2 hours he had completed his work and sat down to play a little classical music for me you know, to me show me how it turned out. He played very well. He allowed me to sit and play for a while to make sure it was to my liking I played and smiled as my Piano sounded as beautiful and perhaps more so than I had expected. He had to pry me off of the thing to finish closing it up.

I gave him his pay and he gave me a business card and a company pen. I have not stopped playing (or smiling) since. I have only stopped to write this post in appreciation for all of you techs who continue to bring joy and smiles to us pianists across the world.

THANKS GUYS!!!!! Your work is very much appreciated. smile
Posted by: Larry Buck

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/18/10 09:25 PM

I was the last up on stage tonight right before the show.

By the time I was finished tuning ... I turned around .. there were 12,000 people in the audience ...
When I started ... they were not there.

The bass player had a large note taped to his gear "We Miss Gerry"

These are such interesting moments ...
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/18/10 10:22 PM

I had an audience of about 60,000 once. I'm tuning, and some guy 1/2 way up in the stands is yelling "you suck" down at me. With a big smile, I'm thinking to myself that while I might suck, I'm down here on stage with John Legend, Snoop Dog, and Hulk Hogan. Seems to me it was him who's seat sucked, being all the way up in the stands! Haa Haaa.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/19/10 08:16 AM

Bob's post reminds me of one time when I finished doing a concert tuning. You know as always, we get a HUGE applause which makes you feel as tiny as an ant? Well, it was a thunderous applause this time. When they quieted down, I hollered, does that mean you would like an encore???!! The whole place cracked up. When I walked off stage, the artists came on and said, gee, we might as well leave now. How do you follow up after an act like that? The PIANO TUNER received more applause than I ever get and even made you laugh!!! Of course, they all roared and clapped for him too then.

I had stopped and was listening when I heard him start talking. I was standing just in sight of the crowd. After that applause, he moved his hand in a gesture as if to shoo me away, I won, hehe, with a smirk no his face which cracked the audience up even more. I turned as if I was going to walk back on stage again to which he looked at me and said, I already won! You go home now, while I'm ahead, go on, hurry! Everyone laughed again including me. I smiled and walked off into the sunset leaving the group to their glory...
Posted by: PianoTech123

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/19/10 06:52 PM

Bob Weir and Ratdog and The Other Ones still put together an amazing band. Bob was my first rock concert tuning and I almost decided to go and try to get tickets after reading your post two night ago, Larry. It was pretty cool, though, sitting behind the piano waiting for Bob to finish tweaking his new pedal after soundcheck. Much respect.

As for today, first was a DC/undercover install on a grey Yamaha G3 where the soundboard shims were starting to pull apart. Not the first time I've seen that in the last few weeks. This winter is really doing a number on some pianos around here. Room humidity was 22%, humidity at the humidistat 15 minutes after install: 46%.

Went to drop off my Birkenstocks at the cobbler to get a new soft footbed installed and a re-sole. Can't wait until they're done. I'm up to only about two pianos a day and my back is already feeling it.

Next: Young Chang U-131 52". Three years-old, played extensively by a Berklee student so key-dip is like 7/16" and check is at 1/32" if that. Left all my punchings at home. Then tried to fill the DC and couldn't find the watering tube. Without really going into what I came across, is it really that hard to install one of these things correctly?
Posted by: Bill Bremmer RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/19/10 09:07 PM

2 concert tunings in 2 major theaters, Steinway D for a Jazz stage band and Kawai something, 7 foot for a musical theater review. A big orchestra was set up, a harp and celeste in place for the Kawai. 2 in home tunings, both grands. Full day and not easy since I slipped and fell on the ice yesterday and I am still sore from it.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/19/10 09:33 PM

1. Today I tuned a Kawai KG 2E. Tuned exactly 1 year ago, close to pitch, tuned up very nicely.
2. Tuned a Wurlitzer console also tuned exactly 1 year ago.
3. Tuned a Yamaha C3, tuned 1 year ago. Another very nice tuning.
4. Tuned an old Nordheimer upright built in 1910. Tuned this one exactly one year ago too. Nice old upright having had some work done a few years back. Still going pretty strong yet.

Sorry Bill but, I had to chuckle when I read that you slipped and fell. I KNOW IT IS NOT FUNNY but, it hits my funny bone regardless! It's what I picture that makes me giggle.. I did likewise not all that long ago. You should have heard my son Jerry laughing at ME! It wasn't because I fell that he was laughing. It was HOW I fell. Arms flailing all over the place trying to keep from falling.
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/19/10 10:09 PM

Did 6 per last the 3 days. Today, Hamilton in a military hospital chapel, a nasty Currier, "lady says 'I love my piano.'" String scale by the Marx Bros. 2 more Hamiltons in a church. Acro last tuned by me in '95, pitch raise, comes out nice, old lady wanders in and says, "you do this for a living? No other job?" Smile and wave boys, smile and wave. I tuned the freaking thing for her in '93, '94 and '95 and I guess I've been on welfare since. Estey grand with a rotten block last year and this year too. Next year says I, "we WILL CA the pinblock." "OK Mr Casey, if u says so..."
Posted by: JBE

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/19/10 10:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT
1.
It wasn't because I fell that he was laughing. It was HOW I fell. Arms flailing all over the place trying to keep from falling.


Now you've got me laughing. I needed that.

I actually slipped on a banana peel once and went down. I was coming out of a grocery store and some genius must have just tossed it out before he went in. Those things are actually quite slick if its cold outside.
Posted by: Terry Benge

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/20/10 05:38 AM

Started off with a Steinway M, it is always crazy with pitch adjustments. Unstable enviorment.
A Baldwin console.
A Young Chang 150 baby grand.
Picked up stack to replace hammers in a Howard (Kawai) built in 1969.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/20/10 10:10 AM

Never book a day full of instruments you've never seen before....

Repaired some case parts on damaged Kawai digitals at a local community college (had to wait for glue to set and dry somewhat, almost as fun as watching grass grow). Lost 1/2 hour

50 cent pitch raise on a 5 year old Hallet Davis upright with a nasty squeak in the pedal and a stripped c# 3 tuning pin. I couldn't tune the string until I replaced it, so I replaced it. Teflonned damper lever felt, proteked springs (they need mpl 1, though). Pitch raised, speed tuned, got the heck outta there. Another 1/2 hour down

50-200 cent pitch adjustment (2 times in some areas) and tune Wurly console in music studio. There were notes where strings of unisons were 100 cents apart. I think someone without a clue got hold of a tuning hammer and went to town..Didn't lose any more time here

And the final piano of the day for a nice lady who was worried about big issues with her Yamaha P-2. Turns out the mute rail had been replaced, but was a little too long and was catching hammers. I trimmed it a tad. The piano was practically in tune, at pitch. Slightly # in mid, but an easy tuning. Need to set appointment for spring cord replacement.

Examined verdigris ridden Steinway V upright. Beautifully refinished. I suggested complete action rebuild.

Picked up my tax return form...I managed to put enough into my SEP-IRA to lower my tax bracket. For the first time in many years, a refund is forthcoming!

Planned to be home by 6:30, home by eight.

Today is a relatively new Mason and Hamlin "B" (a short one, not a BB) with key level issues. They were pretty out of level at the second visit in November, so I leveled them. I didn't think much of it at the time, but it wasn't a sectional thing so much as it was individual notes. I'll take a little more time trying to find the cause this time out.
Posted by: Larry Buck

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/20/10 11:14 AM

Originally Posted By: Dave Stahl
Never book a day full of instruments you've never seen before....


So True !!!
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/20/10 11:40 AM

A tax refund?? What is that?? DO people actually get refunds? Damn.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/20/10 01:19 PM

yeah, that's what I was thinking too. A refund? What the hell is that???
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/20/10 01:43 PM

It's kinda like a stimulus package...only A LOT SMALLER... grin
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/20/10 02:31 PM

Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT
yeah, that's what I was thinking too. A refund? What the hell is that???


Ya know, I've been wondering that for many years. Since I've been in business for myself (around 10 years or so), I've paid the quarterly chunk on time, only to have the honor of having to fork out more $$$ come April.

I earned more last year, but saved diligently and made the decision to stuff a bunch of it into my SEP IRA (you should have one if you don't already) at the end of the year. That, combined with mortgage interest and wife having some furlough days and subsequent loss of income, we were able to whittle our way out of the 25% tax bracket back down to the 15% bracket. Big difference, folks.

SEP IRAs are great, because you can contribute up to 25% of your earnings, tax deductible. It's worth a look.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/20/10 03:06 PM

I do have one of those regular IRA's. I also have a ROTH IRA which I use more frequently. I like the idea of paying the taxes up front with the ROTH while earning interest TAX FREE for the next however many years and never have to pay taxes on it again.

Way to go Dave!
Posted by: Cy Shuster, RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/21/10 03:05 AM

I've tuned in homes, schools, churches, piano showrooms, nursing homes, and federal prisons, but now I can say I've tuned a 64-note Melodigrand upright in a fire station! Fortunately, there were no alarms, so I still have my hearing...

--Cy--
Posted by: Eric Gloo

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/21/10 10:22 AM

Originally Posted By: Cy Shuster
but now I can say I've tuned a 64-note Melodigrand upright in a fire station!


Sounds like the perfect piano for fire practice.
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/21/10 12:35 PM

Hey...wait a minute... you mean to tell me you guys have to PAY TAXES?? shocked maybe I'm trying to get in the wrong field?? crazy
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/22/10 08:25 AM

I finally got to the point last year where I make enough to pay taxes again, only because of my tuning income - feels good!

An odd thing with my regular employer is the 401K plan. You put so much in, they put so much in (or at least they did for a while...), there are no taxes taken out now, but there are when you retire and they make you withdraw the money.

The idea is that you will pay less tax when you retire because you have less income than you do now. BUT HOW CAN I PAY LESS TAX THAN ZERO??? In my case it’s a win/win situation for the IRS. Oh well, it’s the only thing the employer offers. When it comes down to it, the only difference between quitting and retiring here is a stupid cake.

And don't bet that any existing tax shelters can't evaporate retroactively with a bill from congress. The best investment is in one's own children.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/23/10 11:06 PM

Monday, went out to a church, donated my tuning to the Haitian people. The church is going there sometime soon. Then, went to tune a nice Everett upright that I tuned 3 years ago. It was still dead on pitch and so nicely in tune I told them to just skip it and tune it next year instead. Then, went to a church and tuned a Yamaha C7 and a U1.

Today-
1. Tuned Baldwin spinet.
2. Tuned Brinkerhoff Upright built in 1914. Nice old bird. The old lady was angry that I showed up an hour early. Caught her in her night gown, curlers, the works. She was pretty POED. After about 5 minutes of listening to her complaining about it, I said, most people don't mind but, if it bothers you that much, we can forget the appointment altogether if you like. Nooo, you might as well come in... I killed her with kindness after that. By the time I left, she was fine again...
3. Tuned a Steinway studio. Man, I hate those things. They tune awful!
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/23/10 11:22 PM

Jer, did you call her before arriving early? I try to call customers if I'm more than 10 min either side of my appointment time. I give them the option of me arriving early, or I can do some errands. That way, it's their choice, and I don't put them on the spot.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/23/10 11:26 PM

Four regulars:

Kawai RX 1, close to pitch, tune, adjust some tight reps
Bohemia 132 upright, tuned, dialed in lost motion and letoff
Kawai K-18, tuned mated hammers to strings
Hallet Davis Baby G, 5 years old. Kinda snarly things. The highest treble damper wire wasn't long enough to be secured in the underlever by the screw....had to raise the capstan way up and the spoon way down. Other damper wires were too tight in the bushings, so I eased and teflonned them. After a year, pretty much at pitch, but unisons whiny as a bunch of alley cats.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/23/10 11:26 PM

No, I didn't cal first. I just came over. I was only working 3 minutes away from her at the time. Most often, people don't care and if they aren't home yet, I wait around until our regular time. I don't carry a cell phone with me either.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/23/10 11:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Bob
Jer, did you call her before arriving early? I try to call customers if I'm more than 10 min either side of my appointment time. I give them the option of me arriving early, or I can do some errands. That way, it's their choice, and I don't put them on the spot.


Jerry tries to catch them by surprise....
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/24/10 01:33 AM

A GH1 and a CFIIIs. A string broke on the CFIIIs, which I replaced.
Posted by: Terry Benge

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/24/10 04:06 AM

First a Samick console in a nursing home, 30 cent pitch raise.
A Baldwin console @ Methodist Ch.
A Winter spinet, hammer heads coming apart. No they didn't want them repaired.
Worked 2 hours on Samick baby grand with leaky bass dampers. Also the pin had backed out of trapwork and the pedal was really loose in the foot.
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/24/10 07:11 AM

A Bush and Gertz 86 note (previously scavenged parts) ¾ plate upright reminded me of some things I wanted to forget. A-430 was good for this piano and humble pie is good for the soul.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/24/10 07:50 AM

Yeah. Peeaboo! Guess who!
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/24/10 07:46 PM

1. Tuned a Schimmel T120. Tuned yearly. On pitch.
2. Tuned a Baldwin spinet. Close to pitch but off enough for two passes.
3. Tuned a Grinell console. Built in 1958. Raised 3/4 tone to 440. Get this, they stripped this piano and repainted it the color of a white marble floor. I think it was the ugliest piano I've ever seen. They did this back in the 90's.
4. Tuned a Kawai console 508 series. Raised a little bit to pitch but, a one passer.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/24/10 08:58 PM

My 5:30 pm was a Miki Gakki, Yamaha U-1 type. I declined to buy this piano last week although it was only $450. Someone else bought it and I was more than happy to do a 40 cent pitch raise, replace a missing butt, shank, and hammer on G6, adjust a little lost motion, etc.

The lady and two kids, me, a cat, two desks, bookcase and the piano were jammed into a 11x11 space while I did the repairs. Nice lady, but she talked the whole time I worked, which for me is very distracting. The the Husband came home and started repeating her questions! mad Finally it was time to tune, and I kicked them all out, saying I needed absolute silence! grin
Posted by: Eric Gloo

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/25/10 12:10 PM

I've rescheduled all of today's appointments, and am watching the snow continue to fall. Heavy wet stuff...beautiful...until the power goes out...which it will.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/25/10 07:11 PM

1. Tuned a Sohmer console and raised to pitch.
2. Tuned a Schimmel 6' something grand, also raised to pitch.
3. Tuned an old Emmerson grand, rebuilt, raised to pitch.
4. Tuned a Kawai GM-10, raised a LOT to pitch.
Posted by: Terry Benge

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/26/10 04:37 AM

Tuned a Baldwin Hamilton slight pitch raise.
Next a Yamaha P22close to pitch.
A Kohler console, raised pitch, replaced 8 bass strings and 4 treble strings. I think they jump up and down on it. It was horrible.
Tired after that one, go home.
Posted by: Eric Gloo

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/26/10 09:49 AM

Another snow day here. Have about 2 feet of new snow. Just east of here some places have had almost 5 feet of snow since Tuesday. Was up early to snow blow. After 2 hours, I'm not quite half done. About to head back out to rake the snow from the roof...over 3 feet in spots.

Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/26/10 05:12 PM

I liked my Subaru Forester for driving in the snow. The full time 4 wheel drive worked really well. It's a day off for me, and temp is low 60's. I washed the truck, fixed a loose pedal box, took a walk in the woods, and generally lazed about.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/27/10 12:17 PM

Yesterday, I had an easy day. I only tuned 2. A Yamaha P22 and a Kawai 506 console. Both tuned a year ago. I love that. Then, PLAYED.

A little bit off topic for the moment but, do any of you remember watching the news about a Michigan couple that was on Dateline and Oprah? It is called Mistaken identity? Two children among many others, riding in the same full sized van, apparently was hit by a truck or something. Trying to keep this short... One survived, the other was killed. Somehow or another, the two kids were mixed up. One couple buried the other parents child thinking it was their own daughter while the other parents nurtured the daughter they thought was their alive daughter for 5 weeks. After 5 weeks, the parents of the surviving child finally figured out that this daughter was not theirs. She had been in a coma for a part of the 5 weeks but, as she came out, she was saying her name rather than their daughters name which was Laura.

Well, they came into Grand Rapids last night to share their story. We attended a dinner and then listened for a hour or two. It is a heart wrenching tear jerking story. I cannot imagine what all of them must have gone through.

We bought 3 books that they wrote called "Mistaken Identity." It is a special book because the parents of both children signed it. Interesting story. If you haven't heard about it, look it up on line once.
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/27/10 12:43 PM

Well boys I tuned 80+ pianos the first 3 weeks of Feb. Last week only did 15 and NOW I'm on the highway as me lovely wife drives us to a week in the Fla panhandle for R&R. Tethered modem to my laptop via HTC2 schmart phone. I get a week of fun and the day back tune SS D for the St Louis symphony. Still don't know the program. Listz I think. Need to adjust the sustendo and do a bit of voicing before hand. Marooned all day in concert hall on a SUNDAY, no less. jeeeze

Got a few miles down the road and noticed I left my wallet at home and my wife was wearing 3D glasses mistaken for sunglasses. Auspicious beginning to an adventure...
Posted by: piano_tech chris

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/27/10 02:51 PM

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Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 02/27/10 11:05 PM

Another 1/2 day - Drove 273 miles, tuned 5 pianos in one location and one in a second location.
Posted by: Bill Bremmer RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/01/10 02:20 AM

Saturday was an unusual day. I flew to Portland, OR to tune Granpianoman's Mason & Hamlin RBB. The "R" is for "Reproducer". It is an amazing instrument! It has the original Ampico player system completely restored and operational but in addition to that, has a modern LX player system installed. Player system specialist, Randy Cox from Orange County, CA deserves untold credits for both. It was a pleasure to meet him and also discover that we both went to the same technical college way back when. It was the "Commercial Music" program that the tech college offered at that time which attracted me. Recording artist Bobby Mc Ferrin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bobby_McFerrin) was the class clown at the time. My impression of him was that he had talent but lacked in the basics. LOL.

Both of us auditioned as musicians for a touring ice show in the spring of 1971 and were hired. He went on to become an internationally known recording artist and performer, I went on to become an RPT and come up with a dubious method of tuning the piano.

Anyway, that dubious method paid off yesterday when Grandpianoman picked me up at the airport in his Mercedes late on Friday night. Randy Potter came to visit in the late afternoon. He had recently written to me that his opinion of me had gone through four stages: 1. Bill is a nut. 2. Bill is on a crusade. 3. Bill's tunings do really sound good. 4. I want to learn to tune the way Bill does.

After finishing the tuning, Randy Potter sat down to play the music that he knows and was very pleased to hear that it sounded better to him than it had ever sounded before. Later in the evening, a professional guitarist from South America dropped by and I offered to tune his guitar for him in a way that the Luthier Society says in writing cannot be done and should not be tried. His comment was, "I have NEVER heard my guitar sound SO good!"

The magic was in the same as the way I tuned the piano: the G3-B3 M3, the G3-E4 M6 and the D3-B3 M6 are all equal beating at 6 beats per second. The E2-A2 and A2-D3 4ths are also equal beating.

Grandpianoman who is also a musician of the highest caliber possible (I will not reveal his identity) invited other musician guests for the evening. One of his guests prepared dinner for us all and selection after selection of Ampico rolls an LX discs were played of music of any and all types in any and all keys.

The earth quake in Chile happened before I ever got there, so the way I tuned the piano did not cause it. Grandpianoman however was having his own epiphany. The music sounded "right" to him in a way that it had never sounded so right before.

So, we will hear from him soon, I am sure. There is the the gauntlet thrown down to all who have made derogatory, insulting, dismissive, condescending, mocking and ridiculing comments about the way I tune and what I believe in. Any of you who have made such remarks do not know how to do what I do. You have no foundation in how music is really created; you only know what you were taught; you only know ET theory and the math but none of that applies to creating a superior sound for the piano. The temperament is unequal and the octaves are all of different sizes. When you learn how to do that, you will be creating art instead of imposing theory upon musicians.

I had a truly great day on Saturday, February 27, 2010!
Posted by: Terry Benge

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/01/10 07:21 PM

Tuned a Yamaha GC1,
A Baldwin Hamilton,
A terrible Gordon Laughead
ended with a Kimball spinet.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/01/10 10:58 PM

A really nice 14 year old B Steinway. 40 cent pitch raise at last 6 months ago, 2 cents # this time.

Kawai cx5h, not my favorite kawai, easier to tune than to listen to....

A weird Lester console with a strange sideways action. Interesting design, but a tired piano.

Rieger Kloss (Bohemia) untuned since new 8 years or so ago. 10-50 c pitch adjustment, tune, regulated capstans.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/02/10 05:33 PM

Gee, I'm having more cancellations this week than I have had in a very long time. Not, total cancellations mind you just things not working out this week for the people. For example, last night at 10:30, a client called. She was sent to the hospital with chest pains. Canceled for this morning at 9 AM. Well, no problem there....

Tomorrow, someone has to be gone. Just got the call on that one. I convinced her to just leave the door open, I'm used to being alone anyway. Besides, her kids are WAY to noisy anyway so, good!

Thursday, something came up for another customer. Rescheduled. Heah.

Otherwise, tuned a Kawai 506 1 year ago, was close to pitch, once over.

Tuned a Weber W-48, also a one passer.

Tuned an Everett Console, another once over....

Tuned a Kawai KG-5C, yep, another once over.

Tuned a Steinway B.... U guess? Yep, 1 pass.

Tuned a Steinway M.... Uh huh... 1 pass.

Love those one passers!!! thumb
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/02/10 09:11 PM

It's weird how cancellations run in packs for no apparent reason. Something gets in the air I suppose. You can go along for months without one then bang 4 in a day. Then all is quiet again for months.

Am currently still a bum on Flordia's Emerald coast. Got messages piling up but very low on motivation to call back. Get to 'em tomorrow I guess. Spent yesterday on a lawn chair with my new salt water rod and reel. The wife read a book, I had Al Jarreau and Bach on my MP3. Caught one large sheepshead and got a sunburn. Today visited a WW2 museum and climbed around on DUKS and had a long chat on WW2 history with the resident vets, then Appalachacola oysters, keylime pie with Land Shark beer. All is well.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/02/10 10:31 PM

Beach bum! I LOVE Florida. Hey! Go and pester BOB down there in Orlando! i caught a sheepshead down there once with my dad too. We threw the thing in my dads trunk, drove back to his place figuring it would be dead but, when we opened up the trunk about 15 minutes later, it was about as lively as it was when we pulled it out of the water! Good eatin though!
Posted by: Bill Bremmer RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/02/10 11:07 PM

A.B. Chase small grand, cleaned and aligned hammers, tuned at A-440. Was on pitch but still took 2 passes. Appraised an old upright, Standard, Chicago. 40 years in the business and I never heard of that brand before. No market value. Recommended they give it to a new chapter member to rebuild.

Steinway O. 12 cents flat, raised to 440. Cleaned interior.

Steinway M. On pitch but still took 2 passes. Cleaned interior.

Kawai K-5. Tuned at 440 but took 2 passes, removed action to lubricate damper lever pads to get rid of the crunchy squeak.

All EBVT III, all the time. The Kawai was a first time customer. They called voluntarily later on to say how wonderful it sounded. Gave a $20 tip upon completion. They said they just had to call when the daughter came home and played. She was just ecstatic about it. When somebody calls and says, "Hey, these 3rds and octaves are all uneven!" "I want my piano to sound like a piano, not a pipe organ!", I'll let you know.

By the way, Randy Potter drove me to the airport from that gig on Saturday in his big, fancy SUV with an 8" navigator screen. He wants a private lesson at the convention on how to tune the EBVT III. I'll try to see if we can make it an open session for anyone interested but Randy will be the student.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/03/10 09:30 AM

Kawai GE-20, 1 pass, 1 tight hammer center to repin, lubed pitman and rod cups.
Bohemia 125, at pitch (slightly # in the mid range, like most of them that I tune in winter), 1 pass.
Kawai RX 2, 1 pass
Schulze Pollman, which I last tuned 3 years ago. 1 pass.
1926 Chappell, 50-100c flat. No rust or corrosion, so I went for 440 and made it in 2 passes. Nice sounding old English upright in great shape.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/03/10 01:30 PM

Hehe, a nice day again for me! Only 3! Everett studio, lowered pitch to 440. Yamaha G-2, R-440. A Sohmer studio. Teeny weenie, pitch raise to 440. Dat's it folks!
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/03/10 01:36 PM

Been going over my S&S A's action. And I walked the dog along the creek...it's nice to see the sun out..:)
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/03/10 04:21 PM

Isn't it though? Finally, 2 days of sunshine, the car is warm when we climb into it, ahhhhhh, I see summer coming!!!!!!! Yippeeeeeeeeee!
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/03/10 05:51 PM

Jerry, you've got some good eye sight... I just cant' see that far...yet
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/03/10 07:26 PM

This week has been "find the buzz". A piano with a 1/2" plywood keybed supported by a steel frame. It's always buzzed and I had time to remove the action and tighten up all the "support screws". That fixed it! Another piano sounded like a rib buzz. I pulled it out from the wall and removed a Barbie size skateboard from the back structure. Last Saturday a grand had two buzzes, a sost rod screw and hinge screw. Fixing that earned me a $50 tip! Then Sunday eve a grand with a loose hammer rest rail nut. Buzzed on every bass note.
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/03/10 07:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Monster M&H
Jerry, you've got some good eye sight... I just cant' see that far...yet


Jerry has the summer glasses on that’s the problem. Enjoy it because you are going back to the deep freeze in a couple of days….you know what I mean over there in Michigan…..walking down the street….icebergs on one side …………….penguins on the other…. like that…..
Ah Vancouver …I think I’ll go to the beach this aft…………..
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/03/10 11:13 PM

Is the glass half full or half empty? I say, half full! Summer is on the way! I am an optimist going full tilt!

Bob, come this weekend, I plan to get buzzed too! Maybe you should as well huh?!

Dan!!!!!! SHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! That's a naughty word!!! Deep freeze!!!! SHhhhh, shhh! Shhh! We don't want IT to hear YOU! shocked grin
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/04/10 01:52 AM

I promise to stop gloating about the weather in California. Thought I had a clear moment today, went out for my Wednesday bike ride, got poured on, got a flat tire, froze. I was glad to get out and tune the Hallet Davis Upright with some sluggish keys, and the beater 40 year old u-1. Anyplace warm and dry was good!
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/05/10 05:31 PM

Tuned a Kawai RX-2
Tuned a Yamaha U-7.
Tuned a Kawai RX-6.
Tuned a Schimmel T120.
Tuned a Kawai RX-7.
Tuned a Steinway M.
Tuned a Kawai KG1D.
Tuned a Kawai GE1A.

Not doing much concert work this year since the FAC has been shut down for renovations, the concert grands and other Steinway's at the college have been placed in storage-homes until next year when it is completed.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/05/10 07:01 PM

Jerry, did you volunteer your house to be a "storage home"? I would have!
Posted by: EdmontonPianoTuner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/05/10 08:08 PM

I tuned for a 94 year old lady today and her 67 yr old daughter. She is living in a retirement facility. I am new to this business having studied it for a couple of years. This was the most rewarding day at work I have ever had. After I tuned the piano, I tuned her guitar, which I tuned wrong as both of them knew immediately. After some forensic examination of her late husband's harmonicas it seemed that DADGAD might do the trick... She could play a D chord and an A chord! Well that is enough for tons of songs! Needless to say we had fun and her daughter was in tears by the end saying the piano never sounded so good! Then I had to tune the autoharp..... I gave away an extra hour today for free, but I sure had fun.
This job rules.

Thanks to all you long time posters who help us klutz's out from time to time. I have gotten so much help just from lurking on this and other forums.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/05/10 09:07 PM

Welcome to the forum, Joshua! Nice to make people happy with the gift of "in tune" music, eh?

Tuned a solid Kawai GE-1 that was a couple of cents #. I tuned it right where it was, as the weather here will dry out in a hurry.

An old Schomacker Baby, Philadelphia for a music teacher in a school (they still exist--in private schools). Not a bad little piano. Shaped the hammers, adjusted the pitch (15c# in places). I like shaping those old hammers, even though they are probably pretty near dead. It's easy to find the layers of felt when they aren't so damned crammed together by the "hot press" treatment. Smooth and clean after 75 years. Sounded good, too.

A Kawai RX 5 that I tune for a forum member every 3-4 months. Tuned a couple of cents #, voiced for una corda and touched up a couple of slightly zingy notes.

Left early. It's my 5th anniversary today, and my lovely wife and I are going to cash in on my comp dinner at a restaurant I tune for.

Tomorrow, a Kawai RX 7 and a music gig (4 hours, heaven help me...) later in the day with my guitar playing piano salesman buddy.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/05/10 09:54 PM

Quote:
I like shaping those old hammers, even though they are probably pretty near dead. It's easy to find the layers of felt when they aren't so damned crammed together by the "hot press" treatment. Smooth and clean after 75 years. Sounded good, too.


Boy, you can say that again Dave!

Quote:

Jerry, did you volunteer your house to be a "storage home"? I would have!


I was asked Bob. Unfortunately, I just don't have enough room for it. cry

Congrats Dave.

I leave for a week on Sunday. Going to Washington D.C. with my wife for our 31st anniversary. Think you guys can live without me for a whole week??? ha
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/06/10 02:06 AM

Two shows, a Kawai 600 and the CFIIIs. It gave me a chance to pull up the string I replaced.
Posted by: Terry Benge

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/06/10 03:56 AM

After installing new hammers and shanks in a Howard (Kawai), spending 2 days regulating and voicing, the church pianist came over to try it out. She was around 80 more or less and could barely press the keys all the way down. However, she said it sounded wonderful and so much easier to play. Go Figure. I go the extra mile to make sure my jobs are good but when they cannot really play it's a little deflating. So there sits the piano and will not really be heard to it's potential. A spinet would serve them as well.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/06/10 09:07 AM

Ahhhhh, someone that can play will sooner or later be on the piano Keyboardman to appreciate it! thumb
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/06/10 09:32 AM


Agreed. Do your job, do it well, and the rest will take care of itself. Don’t let this kind of thing weigh you down.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/06/10 09:58 AM

Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT
[quote]

Congrats Dave.

I leave for a week on Sunday. Going to Washington D.C. with my wife for our 31st anniversary. Think you guys can live without me for a whole week??? ha


Congrats to you too, Mr. Groot.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/06/10 02:57 PM

Thank you Dave!
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/07/10 03:34 PM

Happy 31st Mr and Mrs. Groot...hoping you have a safe and wonderful week...
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/07/10 06:03 PM

Thank you Monster! I thought we were leaving today but, it appears the "wife" does not want to leave until tomorrow. Crap!
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/07/10 06:48 PM

Your welcome Jerry, 31 years is a great achievement, this year will be 20 for us.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/07/10 10:38 PM

Congrats to you too boo boo!
Posted by: Eric Gloo

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/08/10 04:10 PM

Tuned a God-awful Young Chang grand (G-157???) in a high school auditorium this morning. It has never tuned the same twice since it was new 15 years ago. I tune it as close to their events as possible, as it goes wildly out in about 2 minutes.

I tuned it 4 weeks ago, and the pitch had pushed sharp. It has a climate system, which I installed when the piano was new. It went through the first tank of water, and has never been plugged in since.

Such a relief to walk out of there each time!
Posted by: JMichaelWilson

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/08/10 06:01 PM

I tuned a Young Chang 6'1" the other day. It was my second time to tune it in 9 months. Relatively new grand but it has some of the loosest pins, I have seen in a while.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/08/10 06:05 PM

Tuned and voiced a Yamaha p-22, lubed the creaky damper springs, called my other three clients and rescheduled them for later this week and next week. Feeling kinda crummy today. I'm gonna go hang with my cats and attempt to emulate their relaxation techniques.
Posted by: Terry Benge

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/08/10 06:58 PM

Partial regulation on a Samick SG-161, will try to finish it tomorrow. Also applied lacquer to shoulders of hammers. It was extremely dull and had no life. Of course the church wants the cheapest way out. I hope to finish it tomorrow. I am slow with regulation but enjoy the break from tuning after tuning.
Posted by: nadlerus

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/10/10 04:49 PM

I woke, ate cereal. drove to work, saw 25 patients, ran at lunch, went home, picked up my daughter then watched Simpsons with her, ate leftovers, practiced Bach, Chopin, 2 hand unison improvisation, Ragtime, improvised voicings, ostinato with improv, got mad at my C7 for brightness, rubbed the hammer flet with a wire brush, got sleepy, went to sleep.
We need more life!
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/10/10 11:54 PM

Replaced action brackets on a Schafter/YC, regulated and tuned it. Tuned a Yamaha U-6 and a William Steinberg upright. Went for a ride....long day. I agree with Mr. Nadler. More hours of life would be a good thing.
Posted by: piano_tech chris

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/11/10 02:33 PM

worked on an old Lauter grand yesterday, all day. It was my second visit with the piano. During this visit I regulated the hammer height, jack - knuckle alignment, let-off, and hammer drop. Replaced all old front rail punchings as they were badly moth eaten (i am guessing) and regulated key dip. Keys were fairly level. Finally i raised the pitch to A430. The first visit I rasied the pitch to A420. The string becketts are badly rusted and is the reason for the gradual pitch raising. So far I have been able to avoid a single string breakage. Next visit, A440. . .if possible : )
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/13/10 12:53 PM

I did two shows yesterday. I noticed a bunch of concert grands at the second: Besides my Yamaha CFIIIs and the house Baldwin D, there was a couple of Hamburg Ds, one from ProPiano, the other probably C & A.

I would have liked to have seen the first show I tuned for. The act was slated to begin after the other show finished, but I was just spent.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/16/10 07:30 PM

I'm baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!!!!

What a great trip! We had a wonderful time in D.C. Nice place to visit. Interesting to see differences in how people react and respond to discussion there verses here in my home town and state. Anyone we made verbal contact with responded immediately and were extremely friendly and very helpful.

Back to reality. I worked Monday and today spending every moment (almost) between appointments and after, returning calls, checking and responding to business emails and other office related stuff. I think I am finally caught up. Still quite tired from the miles and miles of walking there.

Tuned 3 homes yesterday, a Gulbransen console, a Yamaha console, a Cable spinet, not tuned in over 20 years. Came home for lunch and did office work. Came home after tuning the 3 pianos and did more office work. Then went to dinner with some friends and then went to a PTG meeting after that. Came home and did more office work.

Today, tuned 4 more pianos. A Kawai RX-1, an older Kawai KG-30, a crappy George Steck grand and an older Everett console. Came home and did lots more office work.

Think I'm about finally caught up now.... I think!
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/16/10 10:34 PM

Today it was a Kimball spinet, half a tone flat. Took out a lot of lost motion, adjusted the backchecks and some of the dampers, and it probably sounded and played better than it ever had before, even when it was new.
Posted by: JBE

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/16/10 11:33 PM

Originally Posted By: Dave Stahl
I'm gonna go hang with my cats and attempt to emulate their relaxation techniques.


laugh!!!!
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/16/10 11:45 PM

Today, it was a rental Sherman Clay/Kimball console, close to pitch, a Walter 190 grand, a Kawai k-18 upright, a walk on the beach in San Francisco to kill an hour and check out the mighty pacific, then a Steinber upright.

Yesterday I tuned a Hamburg D at the new Jewish Community Center in Palo Alto for a concert with Lynn Harrel on cello, Richard Levin on piano, and Richard Stoltzman on clarinet. Spent half an hour watching them rehearse a very interesting modern trio from the 3rd row, then had 20 minutes to tune a piano where the entire mid range and bass had drifted several cents flat. Fortunately, the treble was at pitch and mostly in tune. Tuning triage.... As Mr. Stoltzman assembled his clarinet on stage as I tuned, he said a very gracious "thank you for tuning the piano." Nice to get a little of that once in a while!
Posted by: PianoTech123

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/17/10 12:46 AM

Cool one this morning...a Story & Clark console. One of the pedal rods had fallen out so I removed the bottom panel and written in permanent marker on the inside of the case it said, "last piano built in Grand Haven, MI, 1984" and then it was signed by about 20 factory workers. The owner had never seen it.

Then, return trip to a Yamaha G3 that I tuned 5 weeks ago and installed a DC 4 weeks ago...soundboard cracks magically disappearing and 8c sharp in the mid-range. Repositioned the humidistat and re-tuned.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/17/10 08:06 AM

Eric, that factory has since been turned into a restaurant. I've toured the S&C factory a few times while it was still in business. The Everett piano Factory as well. It's cool to look around at those HUGE beams holding the building together made out of solid wood something or another... Very nice buildings.
Posted by: piano_tech chris

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/18/10 12:12 AM

Tuned a handful of Yamaha stuff today for a dealer. 3 T118's, 2 Cable Nelson's, and a Gulbransen console. Sometimes its nice to tune new piano. No false beats to struggle with. Although, the tuning pins on the Cable Nelsons gave me a work-out.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/18/10 08:08 AM

Tuned a D at 7am, then my 9am butt cord replacement blew me off, so I did some gardening, then tuned a Cable Nelson at 5pm, tuned a harpsichord at 7pm, and attended a student/faculty percussion concert at the U. First act: three students clapping. Second act: 10 students alternating playing a dual 4 drum kit. One student would appear out of the audience and blend right in with those already playing, then another would leave, and "blend out". Third act: Steinway D and B, two digital pianos, six different types of marimbas played by faculty, guest artists, and students. Sometimes the marimbas were bowed with a cello bow. The pianos and keyboards provided a basic underlying and ever changing beat. Cool stuff. Love those concerts at the U.
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/18/10 09:31 AM

Spent the last 3 days with some stomach flue, 12 hours driving the bus, fever broke this morning. It feels good to be back alive. I only hope no one gets it, it's horrible.

But over the week end, I spent some time out in the garage stripping ...ok, lower your eyelids... it was a piano bench, those thing take forever to strip.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/18/10 02:24 PM

Sorry to hear that Monster. Hope you feel better soon.

So far today, tuned 2 home pianos. A Kawai UST-7 and a 52" Schimmel vertical. Killing time at the moment. Have a 4 PM Steinway grand tuning then a concert tuning at 6 PM with only 1 hour to tune it. Yesterday, tuned a RX-7, a Yammie M1A, an Everett studio and a lousy Cable console with a tone so brittle that it could pop the cork off from a champagne bottle. Couldn't even get needles into it. But, I did manage to cut the tone about in half.
Posted by: Terry Benge

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/18/10 08:47 PM

Drove 50 miles and had a no show to get into a church. No cell service.
Finished up a Samick 161, new knuckles and regulate and tune.
Appraised an old Gulbransen consle.
Repaired a gritty squeaky pedal on a Yamaha C2. Screws needed to be tightened in the damper section.
Lady called back on the no show and said they forgot to open the door. I will return at my convenience.
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/22/10 03:28 PM

Made a new bench top and stained. Start spraying tomorrow.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/22/10 10:58 PM

Tuned a nice Yamaha C3, a Schimmel grand about 7'4" or so, a Schimmel vertical, a Kawai GM-10, A Kawai K-15 E, another Schimmel vertical. Plus, regulated lost motion, fiddled with adjusting pedals, removing debris from within some of the pianos, taking pictures of sounding boards with cracks in them for the manufacturer and some other fun stuff.
Posted by: JPDelmore

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/22/10 11:18 PM

Originally Posted By: Monster M&H
Spent the last 3 days with some stomach flue...


flue: noun
...
2. any duct or passage for air, gas, or the like.
...


You have my sincere condolences and wishes for a speedy recovery.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/22/10 11:24 PM

Originally Posted By: JPDelmore
Originally Posted By: Monster M&H
Spent the last 3 days with some stomach flue...


flue: noun
...
2. any duct or passage for air, gas, or the like.
...


You have my sincere condolences and wishes for a speedy recovery.


And be sure to use duct tape....
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/23/10 07:52 AM

Thanks JPDelmore, it feels good to be human again.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/23/10 09:35 AM

Glad you're recovering, Les. You never know how REALLY miserable you felt until you start getting better!
Posted by: piano_tech chris

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/23/10 12:22 PM

no pianos today. . .a day home with our 11 month old twins and our 5 year old.
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/23/10 12:31 PM

Speaking of health matters, yesterday I went to the Free Clinic (Baldwin SF10).
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/23/10 07:15 PM

Today, one of the earliest pianos I rebuilt, a 5' 8" Hardman. Tuning needed a little touch-up, because it has been 8 years since I last tuned it, but otherwise pretty good. The rebuild is looking a bit aged after about 25 years, but I am not ashamed of the work that I did on it, even though I would do a few things differently now.

Then a Steinway B, which I regulated and tuned last year.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/23/10 07:55 PM

Today, tuned a Yammie C-3 and 3 Kawai UST-9's. Came home early for lunch and stayed home. grin Made lots of office calls, jamming in a few last minute tuning requests, scheduled a new church too. Answered a few business emails and then, came in here. Spent most of the afternoon doing office work. Honestly for real, I did!
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/23/10 10:03 PM

Hey boys. Been busy for that few weeks but a story to tell:

Went on vaction to Fl with the wife, Had it scheduled for months then was informed St Louis Symphony was to perform at a U I service and needs babysitter for Liszt program on the day I return, a SUNDAY. U is 1hr 15min from the barn so wife drives one vehicle to my favorite motel/restraunt/bar nearby that spoils me to death and I leave my work vehicle there for a week as we go to FL. Come back the Sat before, take wife to dinner at nice restraunt, wine etc., spend night in motel, Sunday morning she take off to home with me wishing I could too. Duty calls. S&S D is flat, usually let the pitch float a bit but contract says A442 so early Sunday morning I go over it twice, fiddle with sustenudo, unicorda alignment, voicing, adjust rep spring pressure/drop off, get the thing purring like a race horse, out of there at noon. Front people for orchestra to show up 2:30PM, then rehersal at 3:30PM, yurs truly back on stage at 5:30 for touch up, concert at 7.

I am cut loose to twiddle my thumbs from noon till 5:30 on a Sunday, so sit in Panera Bread parking lot napping and surfing the web in turn till I get a call 3:30PM. Music directors says, "You are not going to believe this: Front people show up and say 'you can move the piano off stage now, we won't be needing it for this program.' 'Say what?' says he, no they say, this program does not require piano."

I tell him, "my wife is gonna kill u, right after she kills me. And, despite how much I love u, u owe me a LOT of money."

MORAL: alway verify with the guy holding the baton. Forget the freaking contract.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/23/10 10:25 PM

Oh man, Sam!
U got yourself in a jam!
But, still, you quite the ham.
Good dinner better n spam.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/24/10 06:52 PM

Hey, you guys are slacking out there. Are you actually working???? f

Today, I tuned 4. Was going to tune 5 but, my back got to bothering me to much so, I quit. I tuned a full sized (whatever that is crazy) Baldwin upright, raising pitch from 437-440 and changed the humidifier wicks. I also moved the humidistat over by about 4" to the left of the bucket to allow the humidifier to send out a bit more humidity into the piano before the heater rods turn on.

Then, I tuned a Kawai UST-9. 3 of them actually. I started to tune another one but soon discovered loose tuning pins so, I am dealing with correcting that now.

Then, got my son set up with regulation on another of the UST-9's. Shallow key dip= bobbling hammers... He regulated lost motion too. Then, replaced the piece of felt under the middle pedal that fell out leaving the spring rubbing up against the pedal itself. SQUEEEEEEK SQUEEEEEEK SQUEEEEEEK! Have to remove the action on it tomorrow and lubricate the damper rod behind the action to stop that from squeaking too.

No wonder I'm tired! Making myself more tired just thinking about tomorrow.

OOPS! I forgot one! I also tuned a Kawai GM-10 this morning too so that makes 5 1/2. smile
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/24/10 07:37 PM

6:45 am Steinway B at the U tuned before classes started
Knabe PD 420 (continental style vert) RP 64 cents to 440. She paid $400 for it and the PD 128 still works!
Wurl Spinet RP 200 cents to 440
Cable Nelson RP 125 cents - left at 435 due to soft pins and rust
Gulbransen Spinet tuned every year and holds right at pitch

Oh, and after tuning # 4, a car passed by me with two girls laying on the hood, hanging on by the wipers. It turned around and as it passed me again I yelled to them "That's pretty dumb". The car stopped and the girls got in and it sped off. Stupid teenagers!

Then I received an email ..... Roland would probably love to replace spinets with:

http://www.rolandus.com/products/productdetails.php?ProductId=1076
Posted by: JPDelmore

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/24/10 07:52 PM

Originally Posted By: Bob
Oh, and after tuning # 4, a car passed by me with two girls laying on the hood, hanging on by the wipers.


Oh, to be in Florida in the Spring...

Drove to NOLA Saturday, a week ago, for PTG meeting...roads PACKED with SpringBreakers...Cops thick as flies on I-10...

God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy.
Posted by: pppat

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/24/10 08:14 PM

No work here, just a nasty stomach flu that has a tendency to be recurring... some of my friends has had it 3 times this Spring :-O

Three concert tunings were shuffled over to a friend of mine, I myself is back for bed now, trying to ride the nasty bug out.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/25/10 12:00 AM

Went for a morning ride with 20 far younger cyclists and suffered like a dog...but California is so beautiful this spring that I loved every minute of it! Green everywhere, punctuated by lupine and poppies on the hillsides.

Then I got a dose of reality: 2nd no-show of the week(had one on Monday, too, with bill for missed appointment stamped and ready to go in the mail tomorrow...). I was able to shuffle my schedule and move my next client ahead, and squeeze the no show in after my 2nd no show (of the day, 3rd of the week) didn't show.

WTF???? I mean, it's damned disrespectful to "forget" an appointment. How many methods of keeping track of these things does someone need, anyway? I-phones, computers, netbooks, PDAS, c'mon, folks! This is about respecting other peoples' time!

The 2nd one today showed up as I was about to leave, and as he was a warranty "freebie" for one of my contracting stores, I explained to him that I would be billing the store for the lost appointment, which effectively voids his freebie. But I WILL give him a slightly lower rate for his first tuning.

Eased a bunch of keys and tuned a Hallet Davis made by who knows in a mega plant in china.

Cleaned up, pitch adjusted, teflonned knuckles on a Baldwin R from the 60s. Nice piano, though a tad noisy in it's late 40s.

Sleep sounds good right about now!
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/25/10 07:55 AM

Vose upright from the late 1890's. It was a freebie they got from a friend - if that's being a friend? Hey, only broke 3 strings! C8 and 2 bass bi's... was already missing a couple of bass bi's along with a couple of key heads. Man, talk about some tubby sounding bass strings, omg.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/25/10 08:21 AM

Dave, I finally resorted to calling everyone the night before. As much as I HATE wasting my time doing this, it has virtually eliminated the majority of those that would normally otherwise forget their appointments. If they still forget, I usually will give them a 2nd chance but, if it happens again, I will tell them to call someone else as I have better things to do than remind them and then waste my time and money for people could care less about our time.

Get this one! I was told one time and then flew off the handle afterward; "you people can't keep busy anyway can you? What are you tuning, 1 or 2 a week? I figured you could easily return later today because you would go home and set waiting for the phone to ring again anyway." Can you imagine the guts that person had to say that to me after missing their appointment? crazy

You bet I did!!!! I know what you're thinking! thumb I was so pissed off. I said, you know what? You are totally irresponsible and completely ignorant about pianos and piano technicians. You have no common sense and courtesy whatsoever. Regardless of how busy anyone is, that does not give YOU the right to just not show up for a scheduled appointment because you happen to think that your time is more important and valuable to you, than mine is to me. Here is my bill for a full missed tuning and now, you can kiss off and call someone else to service your POS.

I do not fly off the handle often but, when if you say that to me, I will so then, watch out.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/25/10 09:31 AM

Boy, that took a lot of nerve to say that to you. I would have gotten a little bent about that one. Maybe even more than a little.

I'll be calling people this morning before I hit the road...not my favorite thing to do, but better than a missed appointment!
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/25/10 04:22 PM

Today, tuned a very nice Yamaha M1A. Then, off to my college again where I tuned 2 Kawai K-2's and a UST-9. Had my son regulate the dip on 2 out of 3 of these pianos along with regulating some lost motion. (More bobbling hammers.) Then, off hoofing it around the building making sure I didn't miss anything. Have 3 left to do there tomorrow morning then, I'm done there again for now...
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/25/10 09:44 PM

My 8am tomorrow has a note in his file that reads: "Glued loose jack, Warr. Needed pitch raise, but didn't want to pay for it. He called his piano teacher who said her tuner would charge XX. He would not pay XXX for me to raise pitch so I left. I remember this guy. We went back and forth on why his piano needed a pitch raise, and why it costs more. We couldn't agree on a price, so I suggested (nicely) he pay the teacher's tuner XX and left. So now, 1 year later, he has scheduled a tuning with me and he hasn't used the piano teacher's tuner.

On my confirmation call I determined he wouldn't be home till 8:25, which makes me late for everything else, so I told him I'd need to reschedule. I also confirmed that he will now pay XXX for a pitch raise. Notes in the file come in handy.
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/26/10 01:17 PM

Putting my other hat on this weekend ... installing intake gaskets, upper & lower and valve cover gaskets on my M-I-L's 97 LaSabre. Then lower ball joints, front rotors & brake pads.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/26/10 02:27 PM

You can come do ours next Monster.
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/26/10 02:39 PM

I may not be as well rounded in pianos, but I don't know if you could afford me to work on your car!!! I'm good with cars, but it's hard on the lower back, (kinda like working on the under-lever system :), if you know what I mean), but it's also just to dirty at this age...lol.

Told the M-I-L that she has to will me the car for my labor, along with dinner for wife and I at Outback...seems fair, don't ya think?
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/26/10 03:04 PM

Oh, most definitely fair! We should do that with piano owners too!
Posted by: Terry Benge

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/26/10 07:26 PM

First a Schumman 7' with a broken treble string. A6
A Yamaha C3 (white). Really nice piano.
A Kimball studio.
Set appts for next week.
Posted by: Bojan Babic

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/26/10 07:53 PM

If it does interest anybody at all, I was doing the job about mounting the electric installation in my soon to be opened workshop. After that, I did the music for the local football club anthem.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/26/10 09:12 PM

Tuned a Schimmel vertical
Tuned a Kawai RX-6-removed action, tightened the loose screws on the damper tray inside and regulated the damper stop rail.
Tuned a Kawai UST-9.

Done at the college for another week...
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 03/26/10 11:45 PM

Did some community service, tuning a piano at a senior center in a poor area. These were some of the most appreciative folks I've tuned for in a long while. An old Ivers and Pond upright, painted white, nicked all over the case, but a really sweet sounding instrument. Those old Wessel, Nickell and Gross actions were interesting. Saw one on an M and H upright yesterday, too. That one has leaf springs on the catcher that pushes the jack back under the butt.

Tuned a rebuilt old mondo Steinway upright. Looks great, plays like a bull dozer. Hammers NOT mated at all with strings, tuning pin torque goes from loose to I-need-a-sledge-hammer.

A Boston 178 at a church.

Revisited a Mason A from the 80s that I'd tuned last week. Customer complaints of "out of tune." I figured I'd tell him a thing or two...NOT. His complaints were totally justified. The Killer Octave had gone south by 10-15 cents, and some unisons were wacko. Don't know what happened there. I'd pitch raised it, but not by that much. Weird. I know I didn't leave it like that, because the upper octaves were pretty much spot on.

The weekend comes none to soon, my friends!
Posted by: Dan Casdorph

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/03/10 09:15 AM

Had a strange day. I was looking for new housing, and the 2nd place I was to visit called and cancelled. I arrived at the first place, and the lady next door yelled and asked me for a card because I have signs on the side of my vehicle.

The housing was a bust, so I went over to the ladys' house and gave her my card. She said she had 2 pianos, a Yamaha grand and a player that didn't work. I told her I was not much good with players, but I could take a look.

I tuned the grand, then looked at the player. It was a universal from the 80's. I poked around down in the bottom and found a hose disconnected, and it started playing.

It was a step low in the treble, and very hard to tune around the player stuff.

So I ended up with 2 tunings and a player repair on what I thought was a wasted afternoon.
Posted by: CoolPianoStuff

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/03/10 07:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Dan Casdorph
Had a strange day. I was looking for new housing, and the 2nd place I was to visit called and cancelled. I arrived at the first place, and the lady next door yelled and asked me for a card because I have signs on the side of my vehicle.

The housing was a bust, so I went over to the ladys' house and gave her my card. She said she had 2 pianos, a Yamaha grand and a player that didn't work. I told her I was not much good with players, but I could take a look.

I tuned the grand, then looked at the player. It was a universal from the 80's. I poked around down in the bottom and found a hose disconnected, and it started playing.

It was a step low in the treble, and very hard to tune around the player stuff.

So I ended up with 2 tunings and a player repair on what I thought was a wasted afternoon.


Now that's a great story. Hopefully makes up a little for those days when things go the opposite direction. smile
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/05/10 07:57 AM

I am sure happy to hear that there are people out there like Dan C or RPD that will still work on player pianos. I do not care for them myself. That way, I have someone willing and capable to recommend! Thanks guys! yippie
Posted by: Dan Casdorph

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/05/10 01:16 PM

I don't work on players... I told her since I was in the house, I'd take a look. I opened the bottom and viola, a hose was off. 5 seconds later it was playing. I told her it was dumb luck, but she thinks me a genius.

Tuning it was a real pain, tho.
Posted by: CoolPianoStuff

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/05/10 02:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Dan Casdorph
I don't work on players... I told her since I was in the house, I'd take a look. I opened the bottom and viola, a hose was off. 5 seconds later it was playing. I told her it was dumb luck, but she thinks me a genius.

Tuning it was a real pain, tho.


Ha ha, but now you DO work on players, whether you want to or not. cry
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/05/10 10:30 PM

I was at the Steinway Factory last week, and my Son flew up on Friday - the two of us spent the weekend touring NYC via boat, bus and subway. We would Google our destination, and bus, subway, or walking directions came up. Couldn't be easier - Google rocks!

Just as we left the hotel, an 11 year old kid was choking in the breakfast nook - his Mom was frantic, so I did the Heimlich maneuver on him, and after a few seconds he was breathing again.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/05/10 10:39 PM

Way to go Bob!! Nice story!
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/05/10 11:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Bob

Just as we left the hotel, an 11 year old kid was choking in the breakfast nook - his Mom was frantic, so I did the Heimlich maneuver on him, and after a few seconds he was breathing again.



Good job, Bob! Judging by the looks on some of my clients' faces when I present the invoice, I should probably know the Heimlich maneuver, too.... smile Just kidding, of course!
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/06/10 07:30 AM

Originally Posted By: Dave Stahl
Did some community service, tuning a piano at a senior center in a poor area. These were some of the most appreciative folks I've tuned for in a long while. An old Ivers and Pond upright, painted white, nicked all over the case, but a really sweet sounding instrument. Those old Wessel, Nickell and Gross actions were interesting. Saw one on an M and H upright yesterday, too. That one has leaf springs on the catcher that pushes the jack back under the butt.

…..


I have seen pictures of different variations of the leaf spring. Sauter offers it as an option. I wonder if the advantage is really faster repetition or the feeling of let-off which I think is far more important.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/06/10 09:36 AM

Originally Posted By: UnrightTooner
Originally Posted By: Dave Stahl
Did some community service, tuning a piano at a senior center in a poor area. These were some of the most appreciative folks I've tuned for in a long while. An old Ivers and Pond upright, painted white, nicked all over the case, but a really sweet sounding instrument. Those old Wessel, Nickell and Gross actions were interesting. Saw one on an M and H upright yesterday, too. That one has leaf springs on the catcher that pushes the jack back under the butt.

…..


I have seen pictures of different variations of the leaf spring. Sauter offers it as an option. I wonder if the advantage is really faster repetition or the feeling of let-off which I think is far more important.


They do seem to get the jack back under the butt pretty quickly. And if there's some negative lost motion, it could prevent non-repeating notes.

Some models of Seiler use opposing magnets for the same purpose. The recommended lost motion is negative--yes, off the rail.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/06/10 09:41 PM

Today I tuned a nice little RX-1, a nice Everett grand built by Yamaha, A Schimmel upright and an older funky tuning Yamaha G-2. Kept wanting to drift. I started at 9 in a home, went over to the church and did the next two and was done by noon. Had to kill 4 hours until 4 PM. That client couldn't have me any sooner. So, I took along my winter/summer tires in anticipation of his, had them switched over after lunch, went and took an hour nap in my car after that then went on to the 4 PM tuning. Not so bad huh?

Yesterday, I did a Yamaha C-7, Charles Walter studio and a nice little Everett spinet that I've been tuning for 20 years like clock work.

Tomorrow, I have to tune 5 again. A Yamaha Mark IV, A Schimmel grand, an RX-6, A Schimmel studio and a UST-8. Fun day.
Posted by: David Jenson

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/06/10 10:03 PM

'Drove around a lot. 'Left pianos nicely tuned. 'Said some funny things and left 'em laughing while I took some nice checks to the bank!
Posted by: Bill Bremmer RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/07/10 03:00 PM

Translated a barely readable and nearly incomprehensible description of octave tuning (using the ET with pure 5ths) in French to barely readable and nearly incomprehensible English. (See the CHAS thread). Now, I gotta go make a living.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/08/10 04:26 PM

Tuned a Yamaha C-7.
Tuned a Sohmer grand.
Tuned a Yamaha P22.

Had sent my son out to tune a Samick console, forgot the model number already but, shaped like a Yamaha M1A but, is short 3 keys on the high end. We tuned it last Sept when humidity was quite high yet. Still, we raised it up to pitch quite a lot and did some repairs back then. Today, Jr., raised from 434 to 440. When I came by, he was just finishing up. 1 note wasn't working. Eb 2. Removed action. Showed him how to remove the wippen, re-glue the jack, re-install, trip the jack, tie it back up etc. Touched up his tuning a bit, gave a nice bill and left for the next job.

From there, ran out to a church for a service call. (I'm tired!) I had hired someone else to fix the pedal lyre. (not enough time for me to do it) It had about a 1" gap between the box and the ah, oh boy, I'm having a brain fart now, well, ahhh, the, whatchamacallit's hehe.! Anyway, it was coming unglued there. He did a fine job however, he failed to make sure that the pedals were working properly. The soft pedal was now moving over to the right to far allowing hammers to hit 2 notes rather than one. Had to space several hammers and adjust the treble cheek block screw a tad. The sustaining pedal was not lifting the dampers up high enough because of the stop screw in the key-bed being turned down to far. Fixed that. Then, I found the sustaining pedal was squeaking. Heah! So, I spent 35 minutes fixing all of that crap for nothing. He fixed it only 2 weeks ago too... Next time I talk with that feller, he'll hear about it...

Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/08/10 05:19 PM


Well, I just started this restoration job on a 6 ft. A&S Nordheimer. I stepped outside onto the sundeck and took these shots a few moments ago. This is a 180 degree view out of the floor to ceiling windows in this place. Got to work here for the next 5 weeks........

Pretty hard to focus on the instrument with this kind of a view.....this is the working area of the Vancouver harbour in Burrard Inlet......looking due north.

Left click on the first photo to enlarge........gotta get back to work.....well try to anyways....

http://picasaweb.google.ca/silverwoodpianos/VancouverHarbour?authkey=Gv1sRgCOnO8bb9oqfuzAE#
Posted by: Emmery

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/08/10 05:29 PM

Ha Dan, I can finally see what the mountains look like...nice to see the weather has cleared up there for you.
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/08/10 05:53 PM


Yes Emmery, clear but mighty cold again here. Hail, snow, wind, and power outages in Surrey/White Rock this morning. Just missed us over this way.........Now that the Olympics are over we have snow on the mountains again! A month ago they were all green......

I see Ontario is pretty above average temp for the time of year there Emmery..........
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/08/10 09:11 PM

Wow, some nice pictures there Dan. I would be more apt to fall into a day dream right then and there with that kind of view!
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/09/10 10:10 AM

Tuned a "K" brand console made in Chicago. It reminded me of one of the reasons I decided to go to sea instead of tune pianos for a living - seriously!
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/09/10 11:51 AM

Was that a "K" imble? grin
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/09/10 12:09 PM

Kimball pianos should be admired for their very nice looking casework.
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/09/10 03:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT
Wow, some nice pictures there Dan. I would be more apt to fall into a day dream right then and there with that kind of view!


that's the problem Jerry,...daydreaming....looking at the ships and everything else going on out there...
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/09/10 05:07 PM

Kimball International used to have a Kimball player grand at their Chicago loop location. I tuned it occasionally, but when Kimball gave up making pianos, that piano disappeared. I never saw it again.
Posted by: Bill Bremmer RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/10/10 06:02 PM

As much as I wanted to attend the PTG regional seminar in Nashville this weekend and see Franz Mohr, a busy concert, performance piano and tuning for an artist in his home schedule kept me busy here. Nevertheless, I did use a technique I had learned from Franz Mohr many years ago.

I started the day Friday at 9 AM at a church sanctuary to tune a piano that is to be used for a musical event today. I was told that it had been tuned "recently" and "should be just a touch up" of which I am always skeptical. I put in the muting strips and to my pleasant surprise, the pitch was spot on A-440. I listened to the temperament and found it to be Marpurg. I turned off my ETD and corrected a few slight errors, then used the "mindless octave" method to tune out the octaves. It was a Baldwin L (6 foot). It took only one pass which is quite unusual and I was done in 35 minutes.

I moved on to the next customer, a regular in-home tuning of a Baldwin Acrosonic, the only vertical of the day and the only non-performance piano of the day. It had been 2 years since I was there last but I found the pitch was again right at A-440 but other parts were slightly sharp. I cranked out a 2 pass tuning in 45 minutes, got a $20 tip, went to the dealer to get paid for the work I had done during the week for them, made a deposit at the bank, grabbed some over the road lunch and took a 45 mile drive to Janesville, WI.

I arrived at one of the high school at 12:30 PM where a Kawai RX-3 and another Baldwin L were set up for me to tune for a formal event to be held today. The local home town favorite artist who had graduated from the school was to play both pianos, one for the dinner and one for some other kind of social event in another room. The artist is the one that you can hear on my website (the one from Janesville). Whenever he is to perform somewhere locally, they sell the place out. He now is at a university in Chicago studying music performance and theater technology. He is also studying piano tuning with me bit by bit.

The Kawai had been tuned exactly 30 days previously, so it too was right on pitch. Only the low tenor was slightly sharp and the high treble a bit haywire, so there were two passes in those sections but otherwise it was a one pass tuning of about 35 minutes. The Baldwin was generally 4 cents flat, so it received a two pass tuning. I had to answer questions from caterers who came in asking me where they should go and if the piano was going to stay there as they were banging around the equipment they were bringing in. "I don't know", I said, "I'm just the piano tuner and I'm from Madison" I had to keep saying several times.

At 2:30 PM, I was done with both pianos and presented my bill to the office and reminded the lady there that I had not yet been paid for the one I had done 30 days ago. It happens all the time. It still was not in the mail today. It seems that only after 30 days do some of these schools get around to it but never before. Thankfully, some are more prompt. I saw as I was leaving that they were setting up for a very swanky affair. They had hired one of those expensive wedding catering companies called "Dream Weddings" or something like that. Tables were being set with fine linen and china.

Then I went to the local concert hall, the Janesville Performing Arts Center to tune the Steinway D that I have maintained for over 20 years. 20 years ago, in fact, I had rebuilt the action with genuine Steinway parts and restrung the Bass. I had some #14 1/2 wire with me because I knew the very first thing I would have to do is replace a missing string between the notes C#7 and D7. At the last concert, that string broke upon a hard test blow. I spliced the string but upon tuning it to pitch, it broke again.

The time was too short before the performance to try to replace the string at that time, so I had to settle for leaving those two notes with only two strings. I knew that the next time I saw the piano, this would be the first order of business. I recall what Franz Mohr recommended in such a circumstance. I installed the new string placing a tiny hook on the opposite side of the beckett. This prevents any possibility of the beckett slipping or opening to any degree whatsoever. I tuned each string a whole step sharp (+200 cents).

The piano was only 3 cents flat but I immediately decided that this would be a three pass tuning anyway. To me, even 3 cents is a pitch raise. The first pass was a pitch raise with the ETD offset at +1.0 cents. The second pass was a fine tuning but if I had tried to stabilize the unisons in only two passes, I would have fought with them the entire way. It was easier and less stressful for me to simply do three passes. I did not have to fight with any unisons on the third pass.

When I reached the newly installed string, it had already gone down a half step. I again raised the pitch for each note to +200 cents. Only when I had finished the entire tuning did I lower those two unison strings to pitch. This is a strategy that will work and has worked for me each time I have used it. The strings will go flat later but they will hold for the concert. The total time at the piano including string installation and 3 pass tuning was 85 minutes.

I presented the bill to the director and then went back across town to the artist's home. He has a beautiful 5 foot 7 Shimmel grand. I cleaned the interior, replaced the humidifier wicks and did a double pass tuning. I was done well before dinner was ready to which I had been invited. Dinner was served in an elegant dining room with fine china. It was very fine cuisine presented in an elegant manner. I was ready for it too.

Shortly before the dinner was served, I received a call from the concert hall. I had already planned to get back there before the doors opened at 7 PM to check the string replacement. It was not about that. The pedal had developed a squeak. The director did say that there was no problem with the tuning according to the artist, just that squeak. I got back to the concert hall about 6:50 PM, took in a can of spray lube and fortunately, I hit the spot with it. I checked the replaced string unisons and only heard a slight beat. I re-tuned them.

I stayed for the concert until intermission and checked the unisons again and they had help perfectly! I didn't even open my bag. The artist was the most amazing Boogie Woogie style pianist/vocalist/performance artist I have ever seen! He made percussive sounds with his feet on the floor (as a tap dancer would do), with his hands by tapping on the piano case, plucking strings and using his hand to mute strings as he played, giving them the sound of a ukulele. His entire presence on the stage was that of a performance artist. He looked and had a style kind of like Harry Konick, Jr. but believe me, Harry cannot hold a candle to Michael Kaeshammer! I have never seen such amazing talent and incredible technique!

6 pianos in one day, all but one a grand and all but one a performance/artist piano and all but one in EBVT III and the other still in a non-ET.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/11/10 08:04 PM

Sounds like you had a busy day Bill.

My wife and I went up north this weekend. We left Friday after work. We opened one of 2 cottages that we own with my wife's 4 other siblings and started the spring cleaning on it. It's a 2 hour drive - 140 miles to get up there.

We went for a nice walk this morning after a night of partying last night with neighbor's up the road. I was a tad hungover... Glad to be done with the walking although, it did help...some... Got the cottage by the road half cleaned and decided to come home so we didn't get home to late today. Going back in a couple of weeks to do the other half then a week later to start on the next cottage by the lake.

It was cold up there but, it sure was nice getting away from the same old thing. We love going up there!
Posted by: Bill Bremmer RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/11/10 08:28 PM

Thanks, Jerry, it was. I had a day of relaxation on Saturday but wrote that post. Today, I did my taxes and will have to fork out a bundle on Thursday (I never do send it in until I have to) to the Obama regime and his ridiculous deficit spending. Glad to hear that the congressman from your state is being hounded out. I hope this path toward Socialism and a bankrupt nation can be reversed with the elections in November.
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/11/10 08:39 PM

Well, no, you are paying a bundle in taxes thanks to the Bush regime, who changed the tax laws so that working people like you have to pay all the taxes, while those of us who make our money from investments do not have to pay any.

Thank you for being a sucker!
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/11/10 09:07 PM

Jeez, Bill, this is supposed to be an apolitical forum. That was pretty inflammatory. There are other places to discuss the causes of your tax burden.

Paying quarterlies and contributing something/more to a SEP IRA or other retirement account would allow you to deal with this in a way that works better for you.

I earned more in 09 than in 08, paid my quarterlies on time, put money in retirement (lowering my tax bracket) and got money back as a result. If you don't put it in something tax free, you'll get hosed, for sure.

Today I went and scoped out a job on a 50 year old Knight upright in pretty good shape, then watched the rain fall as I went about household tasks.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/11/10 09:12 PM

Sunday started at 7am with a concert tuning on the D and the B both, on stage for recitals later that day. Then tuned 3 Boston 118's. By this time, it's 11am and time for lunch. Then tuned 3 more Boston 118's and walked to the performance hall for a 1 hour piano recital played by one of the piano majors. Then tuned 2 more 118's for a total of ten pianos all day, and home by 5pm.
Posted by: Bill Bremmer RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/11/10 10:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Dave Stahl
Jeez, Bill, this is supposed to be an apolitical forum. That was pretty inflammatory. There are other places to discuss the causes of your tax burden.

Paying quarterlies and contributing something/more to a SEP IRA or other retirement account would allow you to deal with this in a way that works better for you.

I earned more in 09 than in 08, paid my quarterlies on time, put money in retirement (lowering my tax bracket) and got money back as a result. If you don't put it in something tax free, you'll get hosed, for sure.

Today I went and scoped out a job on a 50 year old Knight upright in pretty good shape, then watched the rain fall as I went about household tasks.


Thanks Dave but most of the "bundle" I have to pay is in this year's estimated. I have all that you mentioned and investments too. When you don't get it taken out of a paycheck (and never see it to begin with) but have to actually write a check for it , it always hurts more.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/13/10 11:39 PM

I have 3 concert tunings to do tomorrow, 4 tunings on Thursday and 5 on Friday. That should keep me out of trouble for a little while. Nah!
Posted by: Terry Benge

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/14/10 04:38 AM

First a Story & Clark console, not tuned for 15 years. Pitch raise and tune.
Next a Baldwin Hamilton last tuned in 1987. Pitch raise and tune
Last a Baldwin spinet 35 years old and never been tuned. 3 passes and fine tune. I told her if she waited another 35,I would be 90 and might not remember how to get to her house.
I just don't get these people that have pianos but never keep them up.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/14/10 07:59 AM

Many of them seem to be uneducated about pianos. They don't play them, they most certainly don't understand their piano let alone tuning and often times, don't care either even after we take the time to explain it for the trillionth time.

I can't remember how to get to some of their houses now. Does that mean I'm in trouble already at 53? help
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/14/10 09:52 AM

Screwed 0ut of my first tuning today. They even called last night to remind ME and to tell me, if nobody was home, a key would be under the mat. Man, I looked under everything around there from pop cans, to 12 packs, pots, plants, bushes, mats, walked around to other doors, checked them all too and NOTHING. They hire jazz artists when they come into town to perform privately at their home charging anywhere from $150 -$500 a head depending on the artist. OH WELL! I will try and get them later on today if that is possible... Their concert is tonight.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/14/10 11:09 AM

That sucks, Jerry!

Today I tune 3 Bohemias, 2 uprights and 1 grand. They will have gone fairly far south by now, as they are all less than a couple of years old and not one of them has been tuned in the last year. Pitch raises here we come!
Posted by: RonTuner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/14/10 02:44 PM

"Concert prep" - 9' Knabe and 6' Baldwin to be tuned together for duets. The kicker is that I could only work during a single 75 min. lunch break at the performance space - a ballet studio... talk about staying focused!

Finish the day with an Everett studio.

Ron Koval
chicagoland
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/14/10 05:33 PM

Well, I managed to get at that piano after I finished my other concert tunings today. The pianist will be happy now. I just got home. He said: "I was home in my basement listening to Jazz. I didn't hear the doorbell and I forgot to leave the door open."

He usually doesn't do that so he's forgiven this time.
Posted by: Dan Casdorph

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/14/10 06:34 PM

I call them if they don't answer the door, thinking maybe they are in the shower or whatever. I also get both cell and home phone #'s, just in case they are on the way home. I hate not homes.
Posted by: JMichaelWilson

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/14/10 06:57 PM

Since I am a new Associate with the PTG, I spent a couple of hours practicing my aural tuning skills. Needless to say, I have a long way to go!
Posted by: Terry Benge

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/14/10 07:21 PM

Starting a long awaited vacation. Turkey season comes in Sat. and I haven't been off since last year!
Posted by: Bill Bremmer RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/14/10 07:37 PM

Among other pianos, nothing special, just a couple of Kawai grands and a Steinway L but it was a 1891 Steinway vertical that was purchased for $200 that is worth commenting about. Remarkably good condition and still a fine musical instrument! One treble string had been replaced, one bass damper and about a dozen of the high treble hammers, otherwise, all original material and a great sound!

I spent far less time tuning it than I usually do. It confirmed for me that the hammer technique I use (now for over 30 years) is the most mechanically correct as opposed to the way that so many technicians "fight" with the piano the whole way through. A Steinway vertical does what you tell it to do if you know how to speak to it properly. Otherwise, it will bite you!
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/14/10 07:47 PM

Touched up the regulation and tuned a 1928 Steinway D.
Posted by: RoyP

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/14/10 10:36 PM

I had a funny thing happen today. First, I tuned 4 pianos at a club. On the way home, I had arranged to stop by and pick up an action from a customer's piano. It's going to be a hammer replacement job. I had set things up with the husband, who is the piano player. The wife was there, but not the husband. I got the action and put it in the car. She knew that she was suppose to pay a deposit, and offered to write a check. She asked how much it would be. When I told her, she let out a loud curse. She said "we can't afford this piano". I'm guessing that she hadn't been informed how much they were spending. She was nicer after that, but there were a couple tense moments, for me at least. The thing is, that as these things go, it's really not that much money. I guess it was a shock though. I bet he heard about it later.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/15/10 10:56 PM

I once had a Japanese couple arguing the whole time I was tuning. It got pretty loud. I didn't understand them, but I got the feeling he was peeved because she called me to tune the piano.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/15/10 11:10 PM

A 7' 1903 Bechstein in the Berkeley Hills (BDB probably knows Marin Ave. This is one steep road!), Kawai k-5 upright, Kawai RX 2 grand, and a Bohemia 125 upright. Nice pianos all day. Tomorrow offers two regulars and three unknowns...:-/
Posted by: RPD

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/15/10 11:38 PM

Called a client in Atlanta where we shipped a partial rebuilding last month to check on the piano...from the car. Cell phones (headset) have changed my life...

Arrived at 1030 am in Battle Creek (one hour drive) and tuned a Kawai GE Grand. Did the church down the street's Acrosonic, which is amazingly stable and always just where I left it pitch-wise (for a sanctuary piano I normally wouldn't recommend an Acrosonic, but this one takes the prize!)...Drove 30 miles to Hastings MI, and tuned a Wurlitzer PE Grand, changed the wicks etc. Hopped on the freeway and drove to Kalamazoo (my town) and sold a full Dampp Chaser and two tunings to a customer who wants to preserve her heirloom Acrosonic (another Acro, I know!). Followed up with a client who teaches music locally, tuned her D.H. Baldwin grand (which plays amazingly well for what it is!)

5 appts today...now home for a couple days to work around the shop. I try for 5-6 appts per day, four days per week...

Cheers all! Off to zzzzzzzzzz

RPD
Posted by: RoyP

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/16/10 12:11 AM

RPD. I agree that cell phones have changed our lives quite a bit. You can put on the head set and make calls during drives. It use to be dead time, as far as getting anything done. Also, I use the map feature on my Blackberry all the time. I use to get some bizarre directions from people out in the country around here. It's so much nicer now.

Dave, I have a friend in Berkeley, and have been up Marin Dr. Funny. I was out a few years ago and spent over a week in his basement rebuilding the action on his Steinway.

Today I walked away from a piano, which I seldom do. The guy wasn't there, but had someone let me in. It was an old thing that needed so much more than a tuning. I just looked at it, and thought "not worth the pain".
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/16/10 12:59 AM

I tune the very last pianos at the end of Marin, actually over the hill from the top.
Posted by: RPD

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/16/10 12:55 PM

Originally Posted By: RoyP
RPD. I agree that cell phones have changed our lives quite a bit. You can put on the head set and make calls during drives. It use to be dead time, as far as getting anything done. Also, I use the map feature on my Blackberry all the time. I use to get some bizarre directions from people out in the country around here. It's so much nicer now.



Yeah, I have a Blackberry too. Jane and I went in with our old cell phones to have them "upgraded" at our carrier. Then, teenagers with matching tee-shirts accosted us...mostly college girls...and a little while later we both had signed up for the fiscal reaming, and we both left with Blackberrys and a promise of a 650 dollar bill the next month before rebates...

I love the little thing...and got the idea of a Blackberry after the PTG Journal article a few months back...love it...but its amazing how GOOD those sales girls are...sheesh!...and all we'd planned was to tweak our old flip phones... blush

Oh well, its an adventure...and the GPS function is worth the price of admission alone.

RD
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/16/10 04:48 PM

I had a nice day today too.

9 AM tuned a Baldwin spinet in a home. I had raised it 1/2-3/4 tone to pitch about 4 months back. Raised it back up to pitch again today but not nearly as much so.

2. Tuned a CRAPPY Steinway console. Dang those pianos make me mad!!!! Creeps all over the place, won't stay put no matter what! Glad to be done with it. POS.

3. Tuned a Steinway A. Eh?

4. Tuned a Kimball 7' something grand. POS.

Ate lunch and was home by 2 PM. grin thumb

Groovy baby, it's the weekend!
Posted by: Eric Gloo

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/16/10 06:00 PM

Most notable of today's tunings was a tiny Weber grand from the early 1990's. Of all the Young Chang grands I tune, this being the smallest, this is the nicest one. Clear tone, tuning pins do what I command them to do, and a happy customer.

Oh, and I stopped at Dick's Sporting Goods to use the gift card I received at Christmas. Bought a gap wedge for my golf bag. The least expensive club I've ever purchased...only $3.49 after the gift card. FORE!
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/16/10 09:40 PM

Day off today. I took the kayak out for the first time this year. Alligator count = 7. Here's a pic of one on the bank. He's only about 6 feet long and scooted into the water just after I took this pic. Most of the smaller gators will get in the water when you get too close, while the bigger ones (9-12 ft) will stare you down as you paddle past.

Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/17/10 12:30 AM

Geez Bob!!! Instead of Gator aide, (or however they spell that) you're gator bait!
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/17/10 02:23 AM

Tuned in a night club and a cathedral.
Posted by: Bojan Babic

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/17/10 04:38 AM

I made a set of wounded strings for one old dulcimer, and tuned a very old no name upright, which was a real pain. Also have looked an old worthless upright with the oberdampfer action, for which the owners think that it is very worth, but I had to disappoint them.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/21/10 02:21 PM

Three scheduled, two of them canceled so I'm left with only one. The lady has two kids, and asks if I mind if they watch. Before thinking I said "sure". I'm tuning the temperament with one kid on either side of me when F3 buzzes. Suddenly Mom is next to me as well, and fortunately it was a quick and easy fix, however, now I've got Mom and two kids all hovering over me for the rest of the temperament. The the girl and Mom leave the room, and I see a quick flash - it's the girl taking pictures of me from the balcony! I can hear the boy moving around behind me for the rest of the tuning.

I finished up and called the home schooled kids over, and explained how the piano works. Mom and kids appreciated the info. Lots of kids are home schooled these days. The tuning was referred by their piano teacher, who teaches on ......a DIGITAL piano.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/21/10 07:53 PM

Me, I tuned a Yamaha M1 PE first. Hammers were bobbling so I raised the hammer line a little bit and then took up lost motion. Problem solved.

Then, went out to tune a very crappy little Kohler and Campbell spinet man, what a lousy piano that one was. Even though I tuned it a year ago, it still tuned like crap. While I was there, they wanted me to look at another piano that had been delivered to their garage a few days earlier. Turns out this one was a Story & Clark with a spruce sounding board. A cracked one at that. 4 of them. One right along the bass bridge apron. The bass bridge also had split pins. It hadn't been tuned in probably 25 years, hammers were badly worn, 1/2 tone flat or more. Well, you know the rest... I condemned that one too. Sad. If only people would have taken better care of the thing, it could have been a decent little piano yet.

From there, I went to lunch. After that, I went and got me a nice, relaxing massage.... Mmmmmm. Then, brought my car into the garage for a few repairs. Ick.
Posted by: JBE

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/21/10 09:48 PM

I'm glad to hear you got one before you went to the garage.....and not at the garage....hee hee

Hey wait a minute, that's not a bad idea. Maybe mechanics could make more money if they had a professional massage staff. Get people all softened up before they give them the bill.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/21/10 11:14 PM

Went for a ride while my car was being serviced, and got soaked and frozen in the process. Tuned a Carl Ebel upright, then a Sohmer 46 from the 90s. I was going to tune an Everett belonging to a friend of mine, but after 3 years, it was really close to being in tune, and right at pitch, so I regulated the lost motion and drank a couple of glasses of Pi(ano?)not Noir.
Posted by: woodfab

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/22/10 01:19 AM

Cut wood, breathed a lot of sawdust,and drove my daughter all over town for three hours.

Dan Piano Tinkerer
Posted by: Hellerbass

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/22/10 05:08 AM

I sat in the office ... made a lot of phone calls to costumers ( why did I decide to take a dead Latin instead of French at school plenty of years ago ? ) ... delegated the bass winding work in the workshop ... answered emails ... boxed about 15 bass string parcels ... shipped them by UPS ... 7 inside Germany ... 5 inside Europe .. 1 to Japan ... 1 to New Zealand ( I wished I could deliver them by myself ) ... and 1 to the USA ... YESSSS :-)

Best regards
Gregor
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/22/10 08:09 PM

Today, tuned a nice little Kawai RX-2, refused to tune an OLD upright about a 1890 year, forgot to write down the name brand of it and now of course, I can't think of it either... Showed up to find some idiot had half filed the hammers, did a horrible regulation job, installed long and short and long and short bridal straps, left it 1/2 tone flat, broke and did a lousy job of fixing 3 wires. It still has a broken hammer. I explained the situation to him and then said, get another piano and please, don't call the person back that you had last time okay??? Then, came home for a lunch and headed back to the college for a concert tuning. Dat's it!
Posted by: Eric Gloo

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/22/10 09:08 PM

Tuned a 1970 Whitney spinet this morning that hadn't been tuned in a very long time...don't laugh and don't cringe! (I know you did, anyway). It actually tunes well and has a clear tone. Has an original Dampp-Chaser system. Put in a new water tank liner, and installed new humidifier pads. They've been watering the piano, but there were no humidifier pads in it...that's a first.

Worked tuning in a nursing home this afternoon. 3 uprights in 3 different dining rooms. Was tuning the ancient Hobart Cable upright on the 4th floor. I heard the door to the dining room open...then this woman came up to the piano and started playing some bass notes. "Oh, great!", I thought. Then I looked at the woman. It was my neighbor who lives down the road from me. She was at the nursing home visiting some people. We both laughed at the fact that the only time we see each other is in the nursing home.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/22/10 09:24 PM

As my dad got older, well into his 60's and 70's, he continued tuning for nursing homes. He enjoyed it, knew many of the people residing there as many were previous customers and he loved playing the piano for them when he was finished tuning. The older he got, the more some of the nurses thought he lived there and was just trying to sneak out when he asked for the code to the doors or to the elevator. After a few times of having to talk someone into actually giving him the code to get out of the Alzheimer's section he finally decided he'd better quit tuning for them or one of these days, he'd be stuck there forever.
Posted by: JMichaelWilson

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/22/10 10:28 PM

Tuned a fairly worn out Hamilton Baldwin console in a cold, damp little church in the hills of West TN. The place smelled of raw sewage. I could only feel sorry for the church folks if that smell was there come Sunday.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/23/10 01:43 AM

I had an interesting comparison experience today.

I did a warranty repair on a "slow fall" fall board mechanism for Kawai on a K-18 that's been regularly serviced by a guy who has an incredibly huge network of clients. He's cheap, so people use him. However, only a year after tuning the piano sounds miserable, and the damper mechanism was extremely noisy. The piano is only 7 years old, and it sounds like it's on it's last legs (which it isn't, it just needs some TLC!) Scheduled a tuning appointment for next month.

Tuned a Kawai k-18EA in the afternoon that I've serviced regularly since they bought it 8 years ago. Let's just say there is a stark difference between someone who cares about the pianos and the customers versus someone who is just there to turn a few pins and get a check.
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/23/10 07:21 AM

Tuned a year old Yamaha P22. The institution got the free tuning from the dealer but wanted me, their regular tuner, to do the regular tunings (nice!) The highest treble damper was cut so that it damped only 2 strings. I had never seen that before. I don’t see many Yamahas. It seemed like a good idea for transitioning to the undampered notes, but two or three dampers done that way would seem better yet.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/23/10 07:59 AM

Jeff,

That is typical of Yamaha to do that with all of their dampers. It transitions into the upper treble easier that way into the no damper zone. If they did 2 or 3 dampers that way, people would complain that they are not shutting off correctly. I've had many complaints that one damper was not shutting off right but when I showed them that was how it was supposed to work and that it only covers a part of the three strings, they were contented with that.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/24/10 10:53 PM

Today was spent concert tuning for the Gilmore Festival in G.R. I woke up at 6 AM, I HATE MORNINGS. Was at the college and tuned the piano from 8-10 AM. It was a Steinway D, was delivered yesterday and was changing a lot during the tuning at first.

Yesterday, the humidity was 10% LESS than it was today. It rained most of today. In watching my hygrometer, the temp went anywhere from 69-73 degrees. The RH went from 50 % down to 42 and back up to 47 %, back down to 42 % etc. It just kept varying. Very unstable atmosphere. I raised AND lowered pitch on this piano and then went over it a 2nd and then 3rd time to get it to stay put. It tuned fine but, kept wanting to drift. The pianist came in and practiced for 4 hours this afternoon. I was thrilled with that because it gave it a chance to get pounded on and to settle down! After all, it had only been barely 24 hours since it was delivered!

I met with him at 3:50, voiced 3 notes, actually, 2 surrounding notes as those were just a tad louder than the one he was complaining about and were the real problem not the other note. Then, I spent one more hour re-adjusting the darn pitch AGAIN. It went sharp as did the RH. HEAH. He plays it very hard but, during the performance, it stayed put. I was on call all day today, had to attend the concert and stay through intermission.

You know the best part of all of this? I told him where I would be setting. The first time he walked out, he glanced over just to see where I was. The 2nd time, he walked out during applause, he glanced over my way again just to make sure I was still there and then gave me a quick nod. The 3rd time, it was intermission. He had to walk back in twice to bow because people would not stop clapping. Both times, as he turned my direction to bow, he looked directly into my eyes before he bowed, as if he were thanking me. How cool is that huh??? As he walked past me during the intermission, I mouthed, "EVERYTHING OK?!" HE gave me a very broad smile and mouthed back OK!!!! With a very pleased nod...

Was I stressed all day long about this? Yes. I always am. Was it worth it? Every darn bit of it after he did that for me.

It was fun listening to the music he was playing, checking out all of the unisons, octaves and all that to see what if anything was wandering. Nothing did. Then, he'd blast out some more as I was thinking, GEEEZ MAN, don't break a string!!! Yet, it all held wonderfully.

They brought in a brand new Steinway from N.Y for this event. It is a bit rough in the prepping department but it satisfied the musician which is all that matters. Our pianos are in storage while our Fine Arts Building is being renovated... I probably already said that but, I can't remember... Time for bed, I'm whipped.
Posted by: Scooters

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/25/10 12:44 PM

Cool! thumb
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/26/10 05:24 PM

Day off today, so I hiked in the Orlando Wetlands. After about 3 miles I came across this crane and gator. The crane came over to me as I was taking pictures of the gator. The gator gave me "the eye" as I tiptoed by him!

Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/26/10 07:19 PM

Last jobs before leaving for a couple of weeks, a Steinway D and a non-descript upright that should have been retired years ago, but it is a private customer of very long standing.
Posted by: Mr. Evans

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/26/10 07:35 PM

Today I replaced all 88 lifter gromets on a spinet piano, regulated the keys and, of course, tuned it. In the after noon I had 3 studio uprights at the High School to tune.

If any of you tune at a highschool, avoid lunch time.
Posted by: Eric Gloo

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/26/10 08:27 PM

It depends on the school for me. Of the several school districts for which I tune, there are only 2 where I can be positive I won't be disturbed if I'm asked to tune during the school day. All the others are "after school".
Posted by: Bill Bremmer RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/26/10 09:32 PM

Got rear ended at high speed from a driver that wasn't paying attention as I was turning into a driveway in a rural area. It wrecked my car. I bumped my head on something, I don't know what. It left a big knot on the upper right side of my forehead. I was transported by ambulance and spent most of the day in the emergency room. X-rays were taken but nothing was broken. I was very shaken up but not seriously injured. Only a bad headache, at least at this point. (Not much worse than I would get from someone throwing me a well placed punch for tuning the EBVT, lol). I will have to take a day or two off, go and retrieve my tools, rent a car and get a new one soon.
Posted by: JMichaelWilson

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/26/10 09:44 PM

Sorry about the accident Bill. Glad you weren't seriously injured.
Posted by: JMichaelWilson

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/26/10 10:20 PM

Pitch Raised and tuned a Wurlitzer Spinet in a church that was at least 85cents flat. The sustain pedal had no dowel rod so I will return with the fix. This piano had an extra damper wire (without the head or felt) screwed in between the bass and tenor break and was resting on the strings of A2 and A#2. I've never seen anything like that before. Very interesting sounds coming from those two notes, to say the least.
Posted by: Ralph

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/26/10 10:57 PM

Wow Bill. I am sorry to hear that. Glad you're OK though. A car can be replaced, but it is a nuisance. Are you still going to be able to tune EBVT III after the head trauma?
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/26/10 11:41 PM

Sorry to hear that Bill. Maybe with that head injury, instead of EVBT it will not become III TBVE? Take care of yourself!
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/27/10 07:05 AM

Glad to hear that your injury is not serious! Hope you feel better real soon.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/27/10 08:06 AM

Thanks Scooters,

Yesterday, I only tuned 2 pianos and then had to go and pick up my wife's SUV from the body shop, we had to cleaned then went and picked up my boat to get that ready for the cottage.

Today, I have 3 home tunings sort of scattered all over the place. The middle one hasn't been tuned since 1972 and it's a Story & Clark. Ohhhh goody! Lucky me! Can anyone say OHHHHH SNAP!
Posted by: Bojan Babic

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/27/10 09:09 AM

I wish you a fast recovering, very sorry that it has happened to you. Take care of yourself. Best regards.
Posted by: Mr. Evans

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/27/10 05:49 PM

Wow Jerry, 1972???? Please tell me the piano is a keep sake of this ladies great grandmother who dies saving orphans from a burning building? If not, I'm deeply deeply sorry for the nuisance. Good luck though!
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/27/10 06:07 PM

Well Mr. Evan's, almost... The Story & Clark turned out to be built in 1957. The last tuning date was actually, 1974 according to what was written inside of the piano. Not 1972 like she had told me. close enough... I found it to be 1/2 tone flat in the tenor, 3/4 tone flat in the treble and about, 3/8 flat in the bass. Of course, I broke 1 string. Right in the tenor section but, I was able to splice it with a new piece of wire and it held fine.

The damper flanges are all plastic and are just now, beginning to break, tiny splits, but, still dampening... for now.. The hammers have very bad grooves in them and yet, the lady does not seem to care. I smiled and said, well, you will care when damper flanges begin breaking....

My other two pianos were a Sohmer console that I've tuned for 20 years and a Kawai UST-7 that tunes nicely.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/27/10 06:56 PM

Feel better soon, Bill. Glad the tuning arm is still good.
Posted by: mupianotech

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/28/10 01:06 PM

I got to lower the pitch on two concert grands, a Steinway D and a Baldwin SD-10, both having been tuned to A-442 last month for two orchestra's. Of course, mother nature has done here springtime thing so both were around 445. Two different venues, in two different cities 40 mile apart. Fun.
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/29/10 07:08 AM

Since I now have shop tools, I made an ergonomic “Fahrvergnügen Tool” (12th spanner). The one I had made before looked a bit like a Cub Scout project. We’ll see how it works on a petite grand today.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/29/10 07:52 AM

Today I have 3 tunings. 2 home tunings, a Falcone grand and the 2nd, I have no idea yet. The 3rd is the final concert tuning in the Gilmore Festival here in GR. I will tune the thing and then return an hour before the concert begins, meet with the artist and then sit through the thing and then I'm off into the wild blue yonder, up to the cottage for a long weekend and a FEW beers.... WITH NO ALLIGATOR'S BOB. Only a few dinky snakes....
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/29/10 08:07 AM

Got a text Wed afternoon from the U -"can you tune the D for the concert Thurs night?" So It's 6:30 am today, and I'm tuning the D. At 6:50, a student kicks me out because she has a 7am final/recital. So the D is 1/2 tuned and not playable. I hope I can get in there between 5pm and 8pm to finish the tuning. In the meantime, I have three tunings on the road.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/29/10 08:22 AM

Oh, that outta be a fun one! Half tuned, they play on it, screw it up, you go back and half to spend twice as much time fixing it all up again cause you didn't get to finish the first time around. I had trouble finding time to get at mine today too. They have 5 recitals scheduled in the same room as where I have to do my concert tuning today. But, they managed somehow to get me in. Guess I'll find out when I get there if it's REALLY free or not. If not, oh well! Taint my fault.
Posted by: Cy Shuster, RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/29/10 09:35 AM

Replaced two plain wires on a spinet without pulling the action, or leaving too much DNA behind. Maybe I should be an endoscopic surgeon in my next career?

--Cy--
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/29/10 09:40 AM

Today brings me some regulation and miscellaneous repairs on an Aeolian Mason and Hamlin A....
And a customer that I haven't seen in so long I don't know what kind of piano she has, cuz she ain't in my customer database
And a small chinese _______ grand with a player system and a pencil in it
And a new Yamaha U-1 purchased from a Stanford University sale

Yesterday gave me a damp bike ride
Tuned a Kawai RX 1 that has been tuned regularly for the last 5 years at 6 month intervals, but they missed a couple of turns. 1 cent flat.
An old Hardman grand that's on it's last legs
A Shigeru Kawai SK3 that had a buzz that I found in the cheek block/keyframe pin interface. Tuned it, too.
Posted by: Bill Bremmer RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/29/10 04:09 PM

Back to work today! I got a Nissan Altima as a rental car, very nice! 5 appointments today. A Hallet Davis studio, a Yamaha P-22, an Estonia grand and now I have a few minutes for a break before I have to tune a Kawai grand and a Kawai studio.
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/29/10 04:21 PM

Bill, glad to see your up and about. So there's no after pains?? Seems the older(more experienced) we get, the longer it takes for aches and pains to show up and to stay around.

Sprayed some color on a bench today and studied your EBVT III sequence. About to apply it to my S&S A after I seat the strings again.
Posted by: Bojan Babic

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/29/10 05:04 PM

I prepared a Petrof grand for tonight concert, after that, tuned two uprights at the Music school. Waited for the pianist before the concert, when she said everything is ok with the piano, wished her luck, and escaped home. It is 11 pm here, we are about 7 hours earlier than you. My best regards to all tuners wherever you are.
Posted by: Eric Gloo

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/29/10 09:25 PM

Mehlin spinet this morning. Still has the original plastic elbows. Must be the proper environment for them. Had 2 to tune at a local high school after school. They're holding a NYSSMA solo festival there tomorrow and Saturday...over 500 vocalists and instrumentalists. A Yamaha P2 (from the 1950's), and an early 90's Kimball studio. I last tuned them one year ago yesterday...so they were right at pitch, which was nice. The Kimball tunes really well. Every time I tune it I think to myself, "I wish all the Kimballs were like this one."

Tomorrow...just 2...a Steintertone 7' grand that takes forever to tune, and a late 20's Steinway L.

Saturday, I get to accompany 5 students at the above-mentioned solo festival, on the above-mentioned Yamaha.
Posted by: Bill Bremmer RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/29/10 11:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Monster M&H
Bill, glad to see your up and about. So there's no after pains?? Seems the older(more experienced) we get, the longer it takes for aches and pains to show up and to stay around.

No more than a brief fist fight would have produced. A knock on the upper right forehead that produced a pronounced welt that is all purple now and a low grade headache from the mild concussion that was a result (I think my head hit the steering wheel) only lasted a day and a half. The way I normally comb my hair covers it so that no one really sees it.

There are a couple of bruises on my left arm which will fade in a few days, a tender place on the left mid part of my left scalp and a tender part of my middle upper spine. The aches in my arms that were like those of an overly energetic day at the gym are now gone.

The consolation prize is that I will get the new car that I was planning on buying next year, next week! It will already be half paid for from the settlement. My car was really worn out with nearly 200,000 miles on it, so its value was low but my insurance company will pay me far more than I could have ever used as a trade in value or have got from it through a private sale.

The car was destroyed but the insurance company will be able to recover all that it pays out from the driver that hit me. It will also profit from all of the salvage value that my car had in it which was considerable.

I will also be able to recover the value of lost time and replace items that were damaged such as my vacuum cleaner and containers for parts and materials with new equipment. I will be able to replace lost work time for doctor and chiropractor visits with the full fee for the time I missed at work and the fees for the medical services. I will be able to employ another technician to help me sort through all of the wreckage, organize my inventory and start again with a new vehicle, new containers for tools and parts inventory which looked like they had been hit by a tornado.

Not a bad deal for taking a few knocks. Drive defensively! Avoid situations where something could happen, you don't need the aftermath! If an accident should occur, you will know that you did what you could to avoid it. Piano technicians typically log many more miles than the average commuter and pay for it through insurance premiums. Make what you pay count by never being at fault in an accident! Find a good insurance company as I have and stick with them. Don't go shopping around for lower rates, find a company that will be there when you need it.

Always wear you seat belt! Don't speed, don't go through yellow or especially red lights just to get to your destination a minute sooner; let traffic flow as it will and flow with it. Let pedestrians in crosswalks clear the intersection as is required by law. Give waiting left turners their chance. Put distance between you and big trucks. Don't get boxed in with no out on a multi-lane highway. Use your brake more than your accelerator. Keep your distance. On icy and snow covered roads, only go as fast as you can safely control your vehicle. Let an aggressive driver pass you. Call on your cell phone if you are running late (or early). As John Lennon said, "Give peace a chance".
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/29/10 11:21 PM

Quote:
Call on your cell phone if you are running late (or early).

But not while driving! Pull over, first.

(On vacation in Maryland.)
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 04/30/10 07:10 AM

Bill:

Glad things are working out well for you.

Here is another driving tip: Keep your cool, you know, be equal tempered. laugh
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/03/10 08:06 AM

Forgot I had an appointment after work. Will have to go back home for tools. It will only make me 10 minutes late, though.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/03/10 08:52 PM

Well, I got my concert completed last Thursday as mentioned above. We left the venue during intermission at about 9 PM and we headed straight up to our cottages. We own two of them. Here are a couple of pictures. I had just set the trash out for pickup but was to lazy to go and move the cart before I snapped the first picture.

We had a great time arriving there at 11 PM. We stayed up until 3 AM with our neighbor's by the bonfire relaxing and laughing.



Here's a sunset to die for. Obviously the cottage by the lake is on the east side. Wonderful sunsets there.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/03/10 10:44 PM

Nice, Jerry! I'll be right over....
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/03/10 10:57 PM

Thanks! Come on by Dave!
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/04/10 07:59 AM

I like my steak med...what time? Nice sunset...nothing better than watching it set over the water....
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/04/10 09:32 AM

Thanks, Jer. Got a piano there? DC system? Just wondering...
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/04/10 12:41 PM

Heck no! No pianos up there! Don't want to see any either. Neighbors keep pestering me to tune theirs but I keep "accidentally" forgetting my tools! Must be old age! I finally said NO, stop asking me man! This is a vacation place not a work farm. grin

Monster, you're closer than Dave is! Come on by.

Today, I tuned a Chickering console, a Yamaha P202, the dreaded kind that likes to break strings anywhere and everywhere and a Schimmel vertical. Alllllllll donnnnnnnneeeeeeeeeee! grin

Posted by: Eric Gloo

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/04/10 07:38 PM

Tuned in an inner-city Baptist church this morning...I tune there every 6 months. Excellent Everett EV-60 grand, with climate system, in the sanctuary. Probably the most stable piano I service. Their other piano, a Wurlitzer spinet...not so much.

Finished, headed out to my car, heard a loud clap of thunder. Started driving through the city, on my way home for lunch. Watched the clouds start whizzing by. Watched the tree tops shaking violently. Watched the leaves start blowing off. Watched the tree branches falling onto the road. Watched the bolt of lightning hit next to my car. Flash, BANG!!!!! Pulled under a tree as the large hail began to fall. A fun ride home!

Played my first golf league match of the year this evening. New gap wedge. New putter. 9 holes. 2 birdies. 11 putts. 1-over-par. It's going to be a good golf season!
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/04/10 07:47 PM

I like a good sunset! One of those days today. I ran over some debris on the road and 15 min later my tire warning light is on so I pulled into a 7-11. The right rear had about 15 pounds of air, so I filled it up and looked around, saw a tire shop kitty corner, and they put a new tire on. Then a string at E4 broke on my last piano, a 50's era Kohler with rusty strings. I was able to tie a knot, though and the piano rest of the tuning was a breeze.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/06/10 08:29 AM

Tuned 1 piano and then went to the dentist. YUCK. Chipped a tooth last weekend. Most of it is gone. Basically, I have 3 options. 1. Yank it and leave it at that. $150. 2. Root canal, core, crown, $1,960. 3. Yank it, put in a 3 crown partial. $2,760. Going for number 3. Time to save more $$$$. No dental insurance here! Well, I take it back, I forgot. They pay up to $700 a year, half of whatever the "usual and customary charges are" whatever they deem it to be, that is.... So, still, at least $2,000 or more. Heah. Be thankful if you DO have good insurance for nothing or pay very little for it.....
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/06/10 09:07 AM

Removed the entire player mechanism from an Aeolian-made Carnes Playano from the 70s. Took about an hour and some bad language to get it all out into the garage. It wasn't as difficult as I expected. Then I was able to pitch raise it from 50 cents flat up to 440 and regulate some lost motion. In the end, it's just an Aeolian spinet...

Replaced the bottom screw shaft that goes through the pedal on a Yamaha console mute pedal as well as the turnbuckle that connects the two shafts together. How the one ever disappeared is a complete mystery, as I had to tip the piano way back to get the thing through the pedal. Removing the pedal on those is challenging.

Tuned a sweet little Kawai K-2, right at pitch after a year. Shocking on a new piano (2nd tuning)! The little boy asked me if I brought my cat, whose picture graces my "time to tune" postcard. Very cute kid!
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/07/10 11:58 PM

Tuned a Kawai RX-2.

I tuned a Yamaha M something er another, 500 maybe?

And I tuned a Krakauer spinet that I last tuned in 1999. I was surprised that the tenor section was pretty much still dead on yet. The treble wasn't though. That had dropped by a good 30-35¢. I had to re-glue 1 busted off sharp, replace another that somehow, had gotten a hole in the middle of the top of it. Looked as if something acidy had been spilled on it or something, I don't know. Had to put a couple stickers back into the backs of the keys. They managed to pull themselves out from the backs of the keys. I don't suppose some lil kiddy finners had anything to do with that do you? whistle
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/09/10 08:58 PM

Sunday... Mother's Day. I have a dear sweet wife. We've been married as some of you know for 31 years this past March 10. I love her to death soooo, today, I opted to do all of the laundry for her. What a DUMB idea. Not really but, what a lot of work! I made NO guarantee's that the color's were matched perfectly prior to being stuffed into the washing gadget but, nonetheless, I did all of the laundry for her. It took me all fricken day too AND I even FOLDED it all! Man! I HATE IT. Give me a piano to tune any day of the week instead! She appreciated it though. I think? I haven't checked to see if any of the color's leaked through on the rest of the stuff yet.. I'm not looking either.... help grin
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/09/10 11:29 PM

Wow, Jerry, you da man....or are you? grin

My wife works just about as hard as me, so we generally share domestic duties. Clothes folding is about my least favorite activity. It beats hunting for your morning clothes in the laundry basket, though.....
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/10/10 07:30 AM

I love it when you take the clothes out of the dryer and find that new sweater for the niece's Barbie shocked
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/10/10 08:14 AM

Monster, funny! ha I was thinking the same thing of certain items that I was pulling out. Hmmmm, they look smaller now..... Shhhhh! Don't tell anyone!
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/10/10 08:23 AM

Is this right? "No Dear, your butt makes those pants look bigger..." smirk
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/10/10 08:32 AM

Go ahead, tell your spouse that one, I dare ya! Not me! I tell her the opposite. I know what's good for me. grin
Posted by: Pure Tone Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/10/10 01:47 PM

School concert season is upon us. Today was a Kawai RX-2 (a piano I've tuned a few times before) in a church that is being used for recitals tomorrow night, and 2 middle school uprights for concerts; a Yamaha U3 and an old Kohler and Campbell. (from the 1950s I believe. A bit out of shape for a choir piano, but oh well.) About to mow the lawn.
Posted by: Bojan Babic

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/10/10 05:48 PM

Today I had an electric installation in my soon to be opened workshop done, so I have to do something with the floor, and bring machines, tools, materials and pianos in by the end of May.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/10/10 09:55 PM

I took her to dinner on Saturday, made her breakfast Sunday, and did some laundry too! However, I don't do laundry to her satisfaction. You know, fill the washer up first....use the appropriate soap, bleach, softener, ect - heck, I just separate the colors, pile it in, add soap, turn it on, and it seems to work.....
Posted by: Bill Bremmer RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/10/10 11:32 PM

Today, I just did my normal 4 appointments, Kawai grand, Steinway vertical (no problems, I know what to do), Baldwin grand and finally another Kawai grand. What can I say, I have great customers.

But what I really wanted to say was what I did on Friday that I did not have time to post, I got my new car! I like it, it was the color I wanted and had all the features I wanted. The really amazing things are that I can make and receive cell phone calls without ever letting go of the steering wheel.

Once I get in my new car, the cell phone automatically goes to "blue tooth technology" [whatever that is] that means that I can leave my cellphone in my pocket but take and make calls from my steering wheel!

I can be listening to local radio or Sirius satellite radio but the instant I either want to make or receive a call, the music is canceled. I also have a navigator that tells me where to go and just for fun, I can have it tell me that in Canadian French as I am listening to a Canadian French radio station on my radio. Believe me, this is very important to me!

The car has a moon roof (which is useful on the UW campus for MOONing!) or sun roof, as you may prefer, a 4 speed automatic transmission and turbo charged 4 cylinder engine which gets up to 35 miles per gallon or better. It is silver in color which is nice in any case but also shows the least soil when it is dirty.

It has fog lights, special radial tires for best traction in slippery conditions but also slip control for when that does occur.

Here are a couple of images of it:

http://photos.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_440/car_photo_220355_5.jpg

http://photos2.liquidmotors.com/kd1818/kl9954691/po1/v2/ds184/pic.aspx?1FAHP3GN0AW173863_1_of_15.jpg
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/10/10 11:53 PM

Congrat's Bill! Sounds like a very nice car. Looks pretty sharp too! Heck of a way to get a new car though!

I have to say this... I have a navigator that tells me where to go too.... It's called a wife. Especially when I do laundry like Bob does it. Boy, it's a darn good thing she doesn't read these posts!

I gotta say this too Bill! I just can't resist it. After having to guide you into Grand Rapids last summer, you most certainly do need one of these navigator's gizmo's for sure! Sorry, I couldn't help it, I'm setting here giggling as I type this... I think it's time for bed.
Posted by: RPD

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/12/10 10:38 PM

Had six appointments today...tuned 4, did a service call and sold a partial Dampp Chaser for a Baldwin Acro, and did another call to repair THE biggest crack in an upright block (another Baldwin, console this time) I've ever repaired...it measured 1/2 inch wide in places!!...five stainless bolts later, and about an hour, and it was almost closed up...I'll go back in a week to pull it the rest of the way...

Got home at 8:30pm, threw some food into the pie-hole, and worked another hour in my shop picking shattered plastic elbows off a spinet action with sharp tools.

Then, came into the house and PM's J-Groot about our similar needs to fly the coop and head up north!...and now I'm about to go light a campfire in my fire circle. Its been raining today, but that's no prob. I have a magic way of getting a really big, tall fire. Not sayin' its smart, just sayin' it works.

RPD
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/13/10 12:30 AM

Nice car, Bill. Looks very techno! GPS is great, I have to say. Even though I've lived in this area my whole life, using the GPS makes me not have to think about where I'm going.

I'll be shopping for a new car fairly soon, too--my Saab's edging up to 200k miles! I'll probably wait for hybrid minivans to make it to our shores.

Today I drove up to the top of Montevina Road, a 2000 foot climb I've only ever ridden up on bicycle. Boy, is that sucker narrow and windy in a car! Tuned a mini Kohler and Campbell (Korean version), then drove back down the hill.

Tuned a Schafer by YC that I replaced the brackets on awhile back.

Yesterday I worked on an Old Chang U-3 that has broken several bass strings, including one yesterday--and not during the 20c pitch raise, during the fine tuning. The straw that broke the camel's back.
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/14/10 06:59 AM

Worked on “tuning” a hand plane, seems to have stability problems…. So while getting the blade razor sharp, I gave myself a paper cut. Go figure.

Have a rescheduled no-show at a church. I had even made a courtesy phone reminder the night before. Go figure. Well I mess up sometimes, too.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/14/10 07:50 AM

What happened to Sam anyway?

I tuned 3 homes yesterday. A Wurlitzer console, a Story & Clark grand and another Wurlly. Today, I have a Hundai grand (POS) in a church, a piano in a home that I've not tuned before and a nice Everett grand in another church that my family has tuned (not this piano, the church) since 1946. Dat's it. My 3 a day.

Had my gal come over last night again to make calls for me. She scheduled 24 appointments on Tuesday and Thursday of this week. Thanks to her and me too for returning the calls that come in and emailing back to people including my action jobs, I am now booked through August. grin
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/14/10 10:01 AM

Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT
What happened to Sam anyway?

grin


I was wondering the same thing...

Yesterday, I pitch raised, tuned, and regulated the capstans on a k-25 that had previously been "cared for" by El Cheapo Tooner. What a mess. Fortunately, these pianos can recover from neglect.

Tuned a Kawai RX 6 I hadn't seen for 3 years. 10 c flat across the board.

Tuned a Steinway L in a brand new high school performing arts center. Beautiful place, piano needs help.

Tuned another piano previously serviced by El Cheapo, a Kawai k-3, which hasn't been around long enough to be in the same state of neglect as the k-25 was. Pedal noises, lost motion, case buzz.

Repinned a jack on a Sohmer upright for a local jazz bassist. I told him no charge as long as he comes over to jam with me!
Posted by: alfredo capurso

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/14/10 01:12 PM

Hello.

Today, out of curiosity, I had a look at the views rate of PW threads and wow... to my surprise I noticed that one thread is making some 100 or more views per hour.

So I asked myself: is there any control in PW onto the threads views-rate?

Would it be possible to increase that rate artificially?

Would it be fear or honest then making a point of it?

Regards to all, Alfredo Capurso.
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/14/10 01:29 PM

Why do you ask? Are there some Topics that you want to artificially increase the rate of???
Posted by: alfredo capurso

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/14/10 01:43 PM

Hi Jeff, You made me almost smile, but you can do better.

I'm just wondering about that phenomenon.
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/14/10 01:52 PM

Which phenomenon? The one of smiling? (Maybe that made you show your teeth.)
Posted by: alfredo capurso

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/14/10 01:59 PM

wow

Today, out of curiosity, I had a look at the views rate of PW threads and wow... to my surprise I noticed that one thread is making some 100 or more views per hour.

So I asked myself: is there any control in PW onto the threads views-rate?

Would it be possible to increase that rate artificially?

Would it be fear or honest then making a point of it?

Regards to all, Alfredo Capurso.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/14/10 06:11 PM

I have no idea about the artificial thing. I highly doubt that it would be taking place but, considering the amount of people that are members and the amount of people that are merely lurkers, those that come in and out of probably the same topics perhaps several times throughout the day, including the members, I can see that occurring Alfredo. Some people have no life! Guess we're a member of that group! :-)

Today: Drove 123 miles. Tuned that Hundai grand today man, I hate that piano. Had to remove the action, clean the key bed and lub it, squeaking and creaking. Tighten the pedals, again, and lub those too. That is, after I found someone to open up the church for me because they forgot! Replaced humidifier wicks. Charged $193.

2. Tuned an Ackerman console. Honestly? I've never heard of it before today. What is it? Who makes it? I don't like it. I raised it 1/2 over all but up to 1 full tone in the treble. It was all over the place for the same reasons Dave mentioned. Tuned by an El Cheapo Tooner. I removed the action, tightened the flanges, lubricated the damper rod, man, was it ever noisy! Tightened the pedals, they were loose, wobbling and noisy, re-glued several loose hammer butt heels, removed a few paper clips and a BIG hair pin stuck between the keys. Need to return to regulate action and re-glue back rail cloth from D-3-A-3. Pulled and bunched up there creating problems. Charged $260.

3. Tuned the Everett grand. Replaced humidifier pads. Phew! Finally a decent piano to tune again! Charged $168.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/14/10 09:23 PM

We went to Spaceview park in Titusville to watch the space shuttle launch today. The park is about 10 miles from the launch site. It takes about 30 seconds after launch before we hear the roar and feel the vibrations. Only two more launches left. Here's a pic I took about 25 seconds into the flight:

Posted by: Eric Gloo

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/14/10 09:41 PM

Great photo, Bob. My former neighbor, Mike Sarafin, is the senior flight director for the Atlantis flight. Yes, that's right! He's from tiny-little-in-the-middle-of-nowhere Richfield Springs, New York, too.
Posted by: Jim Berna

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/14/10 10:24 PM


I'm rebuilding a 1905 Austin Pipe Organ, I releathered the chime unit and re-assembled it, after that I tuned a Whitney spinet,What a job and thwen tuned a 1903 Sohmer cabinet grand, What a great old piano!!!!
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/14/10 10:52 PM

Cool shot, Bob. That must be exciting to witness!

Yes, Jerry, Hyundai grands suck. I think they were made by Sojin or Daewoo. At their best, they aren't very good--and they don't stay at their best for very long! It's easier not to be resentful of junky pianos when one is compensated accordingly. Having three jobs in a day when you have a piano like this is a good thing. I always try to do this kind of piano at the end of the day; it's hard to schedule them between other appointments.

I tuned 3 two-year old Bohemia 132 uprights at a local community college today. During two of them, a lady in one of the practice rooms was playing a classical piece I didn't recognize(I don't think the composer would have recognized it either wink ). It would be generous to say she wasn't a very good pianist. She might as well have been playing a typewriter for all the musicality she displayed.

It would have been fine, except that she was playing the same passage over and over, and she insisted on keeping the door of her piano cubicle opened to share her art with the world. I even asked her very politely if she could close the her room so that I could tune. She did, but she opened it again pretty quickly.

As I was leaving, she asked me if I could tune the piano in room 1203. Pretty damned nervy, if you ask me. I was a bit po'd, but held off on the snarks despite coming up with some really good ones in my head. I told her I already tuned it, and she said "Good. One of the notes sounds really funny." The piano had been wildly out of tune and 30 c flat....
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/15/10 07:00 AM

Great photo Bob. Have you ever witnessed a night launch? I hear they to sight to behold.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/15/10 11:41 AM

Dave,

I wonder if it ever occurred to her the reason the note sounded funny was HER playing? Or, her playing the wrong notes? Ever run into that one? I have. This note doesn't sound right! Play that song for me again. As they hit the note next to it instead of the right one. I said, how about this note, instead of that note? Play it again, I said and use that note. Oh, that sounds better. What happened? But, isn't that the wrong note? I could hardly believe it. I said, um, you ever think of taking up guitar instead? I felt like saying DUUHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! I admit that I did laugh though which they did not find very amusing.

What I find VERY funny too, is listening to some of the opera singers in the practice rooms that sound absolutely horrid! Their voices crackle as they try and reach those high notes, they can't sing in tune and yet, day after day after day, they sing away as if they are in a real opera. I have cracked up laughing to the point of having tears rolling down my cheeks more than once while tuning next door. I just can't help it!
Posted by: Dennis Kelvie

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/15/10 06:20 PM

I tuned a Boston studio piano, then waited outside another customer's house in vain. He didn't show up or answer his phone. Phone was likely inside the house although I couldn't hear it for the traffic noise.

Then back to the shop. . .

Oh well. . .
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/15/10 10:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Dennis Kelvie
I tuned a Boston studio piano, then waited outside another customer's house in vain. He didn't show up or answer his phone. Phone was likely inside the house although I couldn't hear it for the traffic noise.

Then back to the shop. . .

Oh well. . .


Dennis, no-shows really suck! At least you have a shop to retreat to.
Posted by: Bojan Babic

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/17/10 06:33 PM

Today I have tuned a grand in authentic Roman emperors palace from 2nd century, in the city of Sremska Mitrovica, or Sirmium in Latin, where they have an international string competition. It was a very pleasant experience.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/17/10 09:47 PM

Tuned a Yamaha CP-70 by ear today. I couldn't decide which setting on the Low E string sounded less bad. I measured the piano on Tunelab and had one heck of a curve on the bass graph. Tunelab agreed with my equal temperament, but stretched less than I did by ear in the treble. I found an old tuners mute jamming up the key on low E as well. The pins were very tight, and rendering was good. Nice instrument considering it's age.
Posted by: pppat

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/18/10 06:01 PM

Originally Posted By: bob
Tuned a Yamaha CP-70 by ear today. I couldn't decide which setting on the Low E string sounded less bad.

Aah, brings back childhood memories. I owned a CP-80 for several years during my teens, and I tuned it myself. Happy I didn't know about tuning then - the instrument would have driven me nuts! smile
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/19/10 08:17 AM

Worked! grin Hehe, had to do it. Devil made me! So did Sam where he ran off too!

Anyone ever heard the term "Bar piano?" I was told that the two pianos I am tuning this morning in the same home are "bar pianos." Never heard that before. I said, you mean, they came from a bar or what? He laughed. Me too. What the heck is a bar piano? Guess I'll find out.

Then, I'm off to a 3rd home tuning. Then off to get an arm massage. My rotator cuff has been giving me troubles. Trying to get it back without surgery on it.
Posted by: Eric Gloo

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/19/10 09:09 AM

Yes, a "bar piano" used to be used in a bar. They are usually a mess. Good luck!
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/19/10 10:33 AM

I saw a bar piano in a bar that was a spinet with a grand piano shaped bar attached to it. It might have looked like a grand piano if you didn't know better. It looked like it worked better as a bar than an actual grand would have. And believe it or not, it was the best sound I ever heard from a spinet. I guess that the open space under the bar made some sort of resonance chamber.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/19/10 12:47 PM

Quote:
Yes, a "bar piano" used to be used in a bar. They are usually a mess. Good luck!


Well, I guess I was right then. Turns out, they only wanted to pay for 1 tuning, not two, at this time. Nice to inform me of this AFTER I get there and after I planned on tuning two of them. That won't happen twice.

This piano, was a Black, Wurlitzer spinet that they said, their uncle had owned. It was built in 1953. NEVER been tuned. Middle C was 2 keys flat or, A#. However, up in the treble section, the higher up I went, the flatter it became. Over all, the entire piano was anywhere from 2 keys to FIVE keys flat. That is, 1 tone, to 2.5 tones flat. Horrible. Don't know how anyone could stand it. Keys are sticking, needs hammer work etc.

I raised it up to pitch, went over it 3 times. Nothing broke but, it sure does need a lot more work than a mere tuning but, for now, I told them to tune it again in about 3 months after it settles down some and then we'll discuss what else needs to be done. It's one of those very sentimental pianos.

I explained to this person at least 5 times that tuning has nothing to do with sticking keys. He would say, so, for about $200, you can get the piano playable then right? Nooo, I can get the piano on pitch for that amount but no repair work. His next sentence was a repeat of the first. Finally, I said, NOO! It will play the same! Stop trying to get me to fix stuff for nothing because I will not. I have already been here 30 minutes talking to you about this and will be another 1.5 hours raising pitch and tuning it yet. Today, I will be tuning only, hoping not to break any wires. I did fix a few or the worst offending key bushings but, the action needs to be removed to fix it all.

Heah. it came out good though. On lunch break now.
Posted by: Pure Tone Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/19/10 11:19 PM

Spinet, spinet, spinet. 3 today. Tune, pitch-raise & tune, tune. None of these (nor my clients) were as bad as Jerry's. Sorry, guy.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/20/10 12:19 PM

Yesterday, I took the morning off and headed over to the East San Jose hills to watch the Tour of California go by, then rode around with tons of other riders who did the same thing.

Started work mid pm and tuned a Mason BB, then a George Steck (newer Chinese version) upright that hadn't been tuned since new 4 years ago. Told a well-moneyed lady that if she REALLY wanted to learn to play piano, she should invest money in a piano of better quality than the Gulbransen spinet (untuned for many years, sluggish, worn...bleccch) she inherited from her family.
Posted by: Eric Gloo

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/20/10 10:09 PM

A light tuning week for me. I also accompany the choirs at my local K-12 school...and the concert was this evening. So, I've been in for rehearsals (I only need to go in the final week before the concert). Tomorrow I accompany ten students at the NYSSMA solo festival...8 vocal students and 2 instrumentalists. There are supposed to be over 1000 students attending this year's festival. The pianos I get to play on usually range from almost nice to exceptionally awful.

Anyway...I always look forward to this week each year, as it gives my ears a nice break from tuning.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/20/10 11:10 PM

That sounds like a pretty rewarding experience all the way around, Eric.
Posted by: A=443

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/21/10 01:33 AM

Hi everyone

Where is a my client? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDuVj_piDiE
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/21/10 11:59 AM



Been busy with several restorations for the last 12 weeks or so. Here is a quick refinish job with a damaged music desk repair........
http://picasaweb.google.ca/silverwoodpianos/BroadwoodGrand#
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/21/10 07:36 PM

Very nice Dan...

Brushed up on tuning today. Doing a sample tuning for a local store tomorrow... hopefully I'll pass the mustard and become a referral tech (is that right?) ...

Joined the PTG this week...
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/22/10 09:33 AM

Tuned more pianos at the community college. Same scenario. Same lady plays same 2 measures endlessly the whole time I'm tuning. She is camped out in the practice room next to mine, despite the fact that all the other rooms are available. And again, she opened the door. Weekend....aaaaaah....
Posted by: Sparky McBiff

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/22/10 12:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Dave Stahl
Tuned more pianos at the community college. Same scenario. Same lady plays same 2 measures endlessly the whole time I'm tuning. She is camped out in the practice room next to mine, despite the fact that all the other rooms are available. And again, she opened the door. Weekend....aaaaaah....


Next time see if you can record a bit of it and post it here.
That way we can share in your pain.
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/22/10 12:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Monster M&H
Very nice Dan...

Brushed up on tuning today. Doing a sample tuning for a local store tomorrow... hopefully I'll pass the mustard and become a referral tech (is that right?) ...
Joined the PTG this week...


Thanks Les,
Good luck with the tuning today. Break a leg.....
Referral tech or warranty tech, doesn’t matter too much about the label, you will still do your best at the job in front of you.......
Posted by: Eric Gloo

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/22/10 01:33 PM

A very long day yesterday...In school school accompanying students on their final warmup before we all took a 1-hour school bus ride to the NYSSMA solo festival at another high school.

The festival organizers should be ashamed at the condition of the pianos. I played in 6 different rooms. 5 of the 6 had a problem. Squeaking sustain pedals, out of tune, poor action regulation. Some had no piano bench, and the chairs provided were WAY too low.

Most of the pianos were old Kimball and Everett studios...blond finishes, so I'm assuming 1950's and 1960's. The worst piano was in the most important room...where the vocal students were being judged at the highest level. It was a Kimball studio. Knee board was gone, as was the soft pedal dowel. I had a 3-note "fanfare" to start the piece. The piano was SO LOUD, it startled me so much, I almost jumped off the piano bench. Several accompanists lodged formal complaints about that piano.

However, aside from the pianos, the students I played for (or, "for whom I played") scored high marks for their performances.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/22/10 01:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Monster M&H
Very nice Dan...

Brushed up on tuning today. Doing a sample tuning for a local store tomorrow... hopefully I'll pass the mustard and become a referral tech (is that right?) ...

Joined the PTG this week...


Good luck, Les. And good job taking the step to join the PTG. There are great contact and learning opportunities there that are much harder to get otherwise.

Originally Posted By: Sparky McBiff
Originally Posted By: Dave Stahl
Tuned more pianos at the community college. Same scenario. Same lady plays same 2 measures endlessly the whole time I'm tuning. She is camped out in the practice room next to mine, despite the fact that all the other rooms are available. And again, she opened the door. Weekend....aaaaaah....


Next time see if you can record a bit of it and post it here.
That way we can share in your pain.


I contacted the dean of the music department, who considered the situation and said that he'd close up the practice rooms while I'm there working. That would be best for all parties, considering I charge an hourly rate for school tunings. The dean also pointed out something I hadn't considered: there might be claustrophobia issues here as well. I'm glad I gave it consideration before saying something I mightregret.
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/22/10 03:20 PM

Store tuning...now that's a challenge. Lots of customers really slowed things up...but I think I did ok. He going to let me know.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/22/10 03:37 PM

Good luck, Monster! If you get in, try to get a key for the store. I often use my key to tune at the store before it opens, thus avoiding customer slowdowns. When a customer does interrupt my store tuning, I'll find mechanical issues to repair, or paperwork to fill out, or it might be time for lunch.

Dave, I often have students next to me as well as I'm tuning. They always seem to choose the closest room. I find that Sunday mornings are the only quiet time that I can count on - I get in at 7 or 8am and work till about 1pm.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/22/10 04:18 PM

I finally got a fob (electronic key) which will make life a lot easier!
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/22/10 09:42 PM

Evening ladies, gentleman and Jerrys...
Have no reasonable excuse for my absence from the forum except work, video games and yard maintenence.

Shop work on Friday but Thursday was a Currier in a tiny tiny 1st Bapt Ch at a crossroads hamlet, a Hamilton next door at a tiny OLD Baptist, a C1, U1 and Kawai GS 6' at a Methodist Ch, (both in sanctuary)and a pitiful old Lindeman upright with loose jacks for a nice lady with 2 little girls.
Posted by: Roy Rodgers

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/22/10 10:59 PM

Got called to tune the piano at the high school for Baccalaureate tomorrow (Sunday). Went in and it is a Kimball Studio about 30 years old. Last year was no problem. Went in, tune and gone in about an hour.

I sit down at it and play a few chords and it is horrible. Buzzes throughout most of the mid part of the piano, and badly out of tune.

After looking around I found two ribs coming loose on the far treble end of the piano down low in the corner. Got to have it ready for tomorrow, no other pianos around any where close to use.

So I cheat today. I applied some glue between the ribs and sound board, drill a small pilot hole through the ribs so it won't split. put a small screw through to the sound board and pull the ribs back into place. Stops the bad buzzing. Do a pitch raise, then tune. Sounds like a different piano.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/24/10 09:52 PM

Welcome back Mr. Sam!

Me? I went north last Thursday for a long weekend. Came home tonight. The weather was gorgeous! Perfect. In the 90's today! Today, was the hotter than any one day in all of July here, last year! Great day to be at the lake. Going up again for yet another long weekend this coming Thursday but alas, first, I have to have a tooffy yanked. Getting a bridge put in. $2,850.00. Have to let it heal for 6-8 weeks before the bridge work can begin. Wish I had dental coverage! Count your blessings if you do.... Anyway, I'll drink a few and that'll help my sore tooffy!
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/24/10 10:00 PM

Most dental coverage is very costly and covers very little. If paying for things like this is a concern, consider a health care savings account instead.
Posted by: Swordfishtrombones

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/25/10 12:53 AM

Tuned Bryan Adams piano.
Posted by: Pure Tone Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/25/10 07:58 AM

Originally Posted By: Swordfishtrombones
Tuned Bryan Adams piano.


Funny that this is the post I see today-
Yesterday I tuned for a relatively well-known performer at a concert hall where I've been doing work for years. I asked his manager if I could use his name on my website and I was told that I could not. I persisted, even suggesting that the manager play the piano I had just tuned (which came out great). He refused, but took my card. And I took his. I'll call today to ask if the performer was satisfied, which I'm certain he was.
Has this ever happened to anyone here?
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/25/10 08:00 AM

Quote:
If paying for things like this is a concern, consider a health care savings account instead.


I'm merely pointing out for those that have it given to them to count their blessings because many of us have to pay for it and if you have teeth like mine, no matter how well you take care of them,it will still cost you a fortune in root canal's, crowns, etc. Yes, I do have an HSA. Had one since they came out with it.
Posted by: RPD

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/25/10 08:48 AM

Originally Posted By: Pure Tone Pianos
Originally Posted By: Swordfishtrombones
Tuned Bryan Adams piano.


Funny that this is the post I see today-
Yesterday I tuned for a relatively well-known performer at a concert hall where I've been doing work for years. I asked his manager if I could use his name on my website and I was told that I could not. I persisted, even suggesting that the manager play the piano I had just tuned (which came out great). He refused, but took my card. And I took his. I'll call today to ask if the performer was satisfied, which I'm certain he was.
Has this ever happened to anyone here?



Probably by asking you opened the door to all the what-if scenarios...what if you used his image, or began to trade on his name in an inappropriate way...many managers will hesitate or outright refuse if asked that way. There is, on the other hand, nothing irregular or inappropriate about simply making a list of artists, organizations, or otherwise you've worked for...and for that, you needn't seek permission if you are simply stating the truth. In my experience, nobody will object to being listed on a page with others, provided you actually did work for the event.

Make your list, and if somebody actually objects then you can consider pulling the name off. Its all about being respectful of course, but there's nothing wrong with listing the names of artists you've tuned for.

RPD
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/25/10 10:05 AM

Ok, years back I found Bryan Adams original grand piano in the basement of one of the high schools here in North Vancouver. This was the original instrument that he wrote the early songs with Jim Vallance........ albums Reckless (1984) and the earlier self titled Bryan Adams (1980)

The piano was a mess. It had been donated to the school with great fanfare a number of years back. I offered to repair the instrument as a donation and then have the school either keep the finished product or sell it at a fund raiser for the schools music program.

When I contacted Adams management I was informed that I could NOT under any circumstances use his name or attach his name to the product. The explanation was (if I recall correctly) that his name is his business; (there is rock star power or recognition of that name) and that using his name I would technically receive a benefit (the value of the instrument would receive a benefit), and this is not allowed here in Canada. The name Bryan Adams is most likely registered as a trade mark or some similar business structure...
Posted by: pppat

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/25/10 10:33 AM

Originally Posted By: RPD
Make your list, and if somebody actually objects then you can consider pulling the name off. Its all about being respectful of course, but there's nothing wrong with listing the names of artists you've tuned for.


I agree. Personally, I think it is especially amusing if this kind of righteousness would be thrown on somebody who lists what they actually did... because this way of building one's reputation has been used in a lot more questionable ways during the years - by artists themselves! Even to the point that artists' CV's generally are approached with a healthy dose of skepticism by people in the concert business.

Thus, "NN has worked with Miles Davis" could mean that NN played at the same festival as Miles - Mr Davis on the main stage Saturday night, and NN playing welcome music at the parking lot smile

Same thing goes for venues - some artists' managers buy slow Monday nights at known clubs, just to be able to list their client's appearance there.

There is no end to the creativity in show business grin
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/25/10 05:33 PM

I came across an old Kohler & Campbell grand today. The customer said she bought it from a tuner who "rebuilt" it, but the last tuner (several years ago) took the action home, only to return it with the comment "I can't fix it". I notice there is no wood beams underneath, and the action barely plays. So I pull the action out to find non-standard whips and shanks, and hammers glued somewhat south of straight. The coils on the tuning pins were not pulled up tight, and I can read the brand name though the paint on the plate.

So I saved her (and me) the time and expense and condemned the piano. Sometimes you just say NO.
Posted by: atila

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/25/10 06:57 PM

My friend who has a piano shop has sold a grand to a very famous pop singer in our country. It turned out to be so mystic, he could not believe. First came a piano teacher, looking for an instrument. She said that she looks it for someone, but not saying who. Later came another non music involved person, who also looked pianos, and asked some prices. Then came two young pianists, for the same person... Again, he personally called by phone, asking million questions, but not wanted to declare himself. After very long time, he chose the piano, and it was delivered to an address, without contact to the owner. It was payed in cash by his assistant. Everything was so conspirative.... And than, a week later, we saw that piano in a tabloid magazine on a photo of our famous singers appartement. We really never managed to figure why it had to be such a secret. Famous artists very often have strange demands.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/26/10 01:19 AM

Yesterday, I was tuning a piano at a private school when the AV guy came over and said, "we have an assembly in 15 minutes." I said "OMG, I just started, blah, blah, blah," looked at my watch and said I'd be back after the assembly.

Went into the school reception area, told the desk lady that I was waiting to finish tuning. Another lady in the reception area came over and asked if she'd heard right, that I was tuning the piano on stage. "Yes," I explained, "they're having a performance tonight."

"Well, I hope you can tune fast, cuz you've got 15 minutes! We're having choir rehearsal in 15 minutes!"

Fastest tuning I've ever done. Sounded surprisingly OK.
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/26/10 02:07 AM

It is amazing how many people do not realize that things take time.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/26/10 08:10 AM

It never ceases to amaze me how many people schedule things over top of tunings. Oh, there's an opening, it's "just the piano tuner. He can wait or come back later. He has nothing better to do anyway." I've heard people actually say that out loud, in front of me before. Especially in that case, NOT THIS BOY. It's done now or it's not done at all. Only one way to teach them a lesson. Keep your appointments with me or else it doesn't get tuned. Besides, I have other places to go after that tuning. OK, to be fair and honest, once in a while I'm flexible, it does go with the territory - if I can be but, most often, I am not.

I remember arriving on Thanksgiving Day to tune a 9' Yamaha for a great client. It was yet another, last minute emergency tuning of course. People were up on stage practicing or rehearsing or whatever they were doing, they were making noise. I walked right up there at 5:30 that day announcing that I was there to tune the piano. One fellow giggled and said, not now buddy, we're rehearsing. It'll be about another hour yet. I looked him square in the eye and said, yes now, "BUDDY." I was called an hour ago to come in here and tune for someone that is playing tonight. I'm here now, to tune that piano. He said, do you know who I am? I said, Nope. And, I don't care if you're Santa Claus or one of his elves' I'm here to tune the piano now or I walk. Do you think I care to be here on Thanksgiving Day eve? I'm doing you a favor now it's your choice, make it. You have 5 seconds. He walked. Turns out he was the performing artist for that evening some big name I can't remember but, the piano got tuned... Obviously, I have no patience for that sort of thing. Especially after over 35 years of having to contend with it.

15 minute tunings are not uncommon with me either Dave.... They work well and the pay remains the same.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/26/10 09:30 AM

Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT
It never ceases to amaze me how many people schedule things over top of tunings. Oh, there's an opening, it's "just the piano tuner. He can wait or come back later. He has nothing better to do anyway." I've heard people actually say that out loud, in front of me before. Especially in that case, NOT THIS BOY. It's done now or it's not done at all. Only one way to teach them a lesson. Keep your appointments with me or else it doesn't get tuned.



Lack of respect is irritating indeed. In this case, though, it was the right hand not knowing what the left hand was doing, as happens so often in institutional settings. The music department head who scheduled the tuning apologized countless times. The fact is, though, if the piano only gets thirty abbreviated minutes of my time, they don't get their money's worth. You're right, Jerry, it all pays the same. They get billed for the appointment whether or not I'm able to do my best work.

Sounds like your Thanksgiving guy was a real Turkey.



Posted by: RPD

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/26/10 09:36 AM

Great story Jer! Ya gotta love it when that happens!!!

grin
Posted by: OperaTenor

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/26/10 09:43 AM

Last December, I was called by friend one morning, asking if I could tune the C7 at the Poway Center for the Performing Arts for a concert - that day(they had forgotten to schedule a tuning with their regular tuner, and he wasn't available). It was also the day of the dress rehearsal, and there were people building the set while I tuned. Needless to say, I had to stop frequently while they made noise, and the tuning wasn't as good as it could have been; acceptable, but not goose bump material.

Segue to the group's spring concert, held this past week. They asked me to tune it again, but this time with a few days' notice, so I was able to get in the day before and have the piano all to myself. I seem to have nailed it(I should hope) - the pianist gave it high marks.

Amazing what a little quiet time can do.

Currently, I have the action from a 1995 SD-10 on my bench for regulation and voicing. It belongs to a church, and they've never had either done to it since new. Someone had gone in previously and filed off the hammer faces - flat. My best guess is they wanted to eradicate the string grooves. So, I'll need to reshape the hammers while I'm at it. I also detailed the inside of the piano. it looked like some kid set off a "taco sauce bomb" under the lid; something looking like dried taco sauce was splattered all over the treble strings, plate, and soundboard.

Beyond that, I'm making slow progress refinishing my 1925 Chickering 5'4" Ampico(B I believe).
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/26/10 11:38 AM

A 1925 Ampico is an A.

The advantage to tuning in union houses is that you get dinner time all to yourself, usually. The disadvantage is that you may not get dinner!
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/26/10 12:19 PM

Tuned a Yamaha spinet (42"?)today. The Yamaha site stated that this serial number was not produced for the North American market. He mentioned that the last tuner mentioned he had difficulty locating parts...

Doing some painting this week... piano stuff, bedroom/bath, deck...you name it.
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/26/10 05:55 PM


Difficult to obtain parts for off-shore instruments Les.

This is one of the problems with servicing grey market pianos....
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/26/10 09:24 PM

My first tuning today had a one hour window from 9am to 10am. No problem. I also had to remove a temporary donation sticker on the fall and replace it with a permanent engraved plaque. Also no problem. I arrived on time only to be told there was a meeting in 15 min. So I decided to replace the plaque and tune later. It turned out the temporary sticker was of the address label type, with adhesive like superglue. I soaked it with mineral spirits and scraped gently and in 10 min it was free. I applied the new plaque. Now it's 9:15 and after consulting with the office, the tuning is now on, as long as I'm finished by 9:45. So I finished by 9:45.

All in a days work!
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/27/10 07:52 AM

Today... I wonder, does anyone want to switch with me? Tuning two pianos this morning, a Wurlitzer spinet, not been tuned since 2002, me tuned it last. Then, tuning a Kawai 520 T. Not so bad you say? OK. Here's the part I want to trade. This afternoon, I have to get that toofers yanked I was complaining about. Wanna trade now?

Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/27/10 09:10 AM

A minute of silence for Jerry.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/27/10 10:02 AM

Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT
Today... I wonder, does anyone want to switch with me? Tuning two pianos this morning, a Wurlitzer spinet, not been tuned since 2002, me tuned it last. Then, tuning a Kawai 520 T. Not so bad you say? OK. Here's the part I want to trade. This afternoon, I have to get that toofers yanked I was complaining about. Wanna trade now?



Sympathies, Jerry.

I had a similar experience yesterday...sort of. 3 hours at the DMV trying to get the registration situation straight on my car. It was hit while parked in front of a customer's house last year, totaled, but I kept it as a "salvage vehicle." Had it fixed, but now I have to go through several steps and pay several fees to get it re-registered by the Department of Motor Vehicles. Oh well, at least it's paid for.

Sort of like pulling teeth.
Posted by: HoJ

Re: So, what did you do today? - 05/28/10 02:46 AM

I do not understand how you can tune the piano on the short time I spend approx. 1 hour and 30 minutes on such work.

Yesterday I tuned in a piano concert, first they said that it should remain at 440hz, so I tuned for that, so they called to said that there would be other instruments, and it may be in the 442hz, so I tuned on it again. At the end of the day they called again - it must be tuned in 443hz .. I finished finally!
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/02/10 08:30 AM

Practice Hoj. Lots and lots of practice.

Just got home last night from a 5 day weekend. What great weather. We spent lots of time boating, swimming, playing in the sun, setting in the water and over all, had a great time! Got the tooth yanked and how waiting for it to heal. Time for work again!
Back to the real world...
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/02/10 09:09 AM

Jerry, what time is it when you have to go to the dentist? Tooth-Hurty...

Apologies all around for that one. Hope your teeth are feeling better.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/02/10 05:02 PM

I went at 1 hurty though and it thill hurths 5 hunnnred hurty's latta. Funny Dave. Good one!

Tuned 2 pianos today. 1 Yamaha M450, nice piano and 1 Kawai K-2. Removed a vertical action, took it to my shop, filed hammers, tightened flanges, cleaned it, ready to bring it back on Friday PM.
Posted by: A=443

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/03/10 10:21 PM

Hi everyone

I have a cavity too, but I don't go to the dentist.
I do tuning with a cavity. cry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWYvXjx2BUc
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/04/10 10:04 AM

Bought a "new" used car.

My Saab--now officially a salvage vehicle after getting totaled last year, but kept by me and subsequently repaired--is getting long in tooth at 185,000 miles, so I finally broke down and bought a Prius. It's used, but only has 29k miles on it. I calculated my gas savings annually at 1500-2000$. Still, I get a hernia when I write checks with five digits on them....

The hatchback compartment is pretty spacious, though a tad smaller than the Saab. It has a carpool lane access sticker, which is a good thing on just about any road around here between 4 and 7 pm.

I pick it up today or tomorrow, depending on when dealer prep is completed. Ouch now, but the benefits will come later!
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/04/10 10:22 AM


Good one Dave,
We have been looking at them up this way too. Had a ride in one a while back (taxi) and the control panel on the dash is fascinating to watch, switching from battery to gas and back, as you demand more or less from the pedal.....
Posted by: RPD

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/04/10 10:35 AM

Today...shop work here in the shop next to my home...no travel. Nice.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/04/10 05:09 PM

Yesterday, tuned 3 home pianos, put on about 80 miles, went to my college, met up with the local gal and went piano shopping for the college. Got home at around 8:30 PM or so last night. Long day.

Today, tuned 1 home piano this morning, had sent my son to tune 3 pianos in a church so, I went over there next, touched up all 3 tunings and then we went out to lunch. After that, I brought back an action to a Yamaha P22 for regulation, hammer mating, key leveling and that sort of thing. Busy day but, we kept at it and got er done. I had last worked (not tuned) that piano 6 years ago. Knowing that and following up after me certainly helped me to know where I stood on regulation issues for sure.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/06/10 06:02 PM

A price shopper called today for a quote on tuning and fixing a sticky key. She wanted a guarantee there would be no extra charge for fixing her sticky key. The last time I agreed to that, the piano had about 30 sticky keys. Never again. She hung up disappointed, and I'm sure I saved myself a big hassle.
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/06/10 06:25 PM

These days, there are a lot of people watching their money, as we all should have been doing all along. For cases like this, I offer to call if I am in the neighborhood and drop in and give an estimate. The other thing about this is that it keeps you from having a gap in your schedule if the job is not worth doing. Sometimes it can fill up such a gap.

If you want, you could charge a minimal price for that. You could also apply it to the work when it is done.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/06/10 07:33 PM

She was worried the sticky key could cost her more than the tuning quote. I do a lot of extra things for my customers at no charge, and she would be no exception, but I couldn't guarantee I'll fix it for free, when I don't know what "it" is. I told her 90% chance it was a quick fix, but the 10% scared her off.
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/10/10 01:37 PM

Emergency call for a Baccalaureate. The complaint through the grape vine is sticky keys, but I will talk them into a tuning, which includes taking care of a few sticking keys. (I know this piano well...)
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/10/10 04:04 PM

Monday: Cleaned the sound board, harp and key bed on a Yamaha C-7. Set my hammer line and let off on all of the end keys. Then, removed the action and pedal lyre. The lyre was coming unglued.

Monday evening, contacted my piano re-finisher person, had them repair the lyre for me. I hate doing that.

Tuesday: Dismantled the stack, cleaned everything with "Nevr Dull", capstans, balance and front rail pins, things of that nature. Lubricated all leather and whippen cushion parts etc., with soap stone, filed hammers and then regulated the action on the bench.

Wednesday: Removed an action from an older Everett studio built in South Haven Michigan. I love those old pianos. Worked on it the rest of the day. Filed hammers, re-pinned many of them, re-glued about 25 hammer butts and heels.

Thursday: Returned the Everett. Spaced hammers, leveled keys, regulated the action and all that good stuff. It came out nice.

Now, here is a prime example of a piano where specs are just that, SPECS. Key height on that was according to the book, supposed to be 60.5 mm. It was more like 65 mm. Hammer rest rail position was supposed to be (I forget now) something like 45 mm. It was about 5 mm more than that. I had a decision to make. I checked dip, let off, after touch. Dip was pretty good. After touch was close.... But a bit shallow. The keys were as usual, lower in height in the center than on the ends. B-7 had perfect after-touch. B-0 was close but, a tad lower than B-7. Both, were slightly higher than the rest of the keys. I raised B-0 just a tad to match B-7. I chose to increase the height of the other whites to match them and then I raised the hammer rail by about 1/16". Just enough, to give me perfect after-touch with a nice let off of about 1/8".

It came out great! I was always taught, manufacturer's specs are just that, guidelines. The rest, you must figure out by the seat of your pants and only experience will help you with that one.
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/10/10 05:53 PM

thumb nice job Jerry.

ME, I painted a bathroom, fixed a stack pipe leak between floors, patched the hole. Came home and packing for KY. Visiting family, attending a couple of dance recitals (their 2 girls are in them), golfing on Sat, swimming on Sunday, home on Monday. Somewhere in there I'm tuning their Yam...
Posted by: Bojan Babic

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/10/10 06:23 PM

Today, I had an argue with my wife, who said:" Either Piano World, or me, choose!". The problem is that the time zones are 8 hours different here and in the USA, so if I want to read fresh comments on PW, I have to do it during the night, cause it is your afternoon, when you finish your working day, and sit at the computer desk. I have been watching PW, exchanging mails with the most respectable names on it, and I find it very exciting and useful. But she does not. So, what can tell you... Here I am.
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/10/10 06:32 PM

Originally Posted By: Bojan Babic
Today, I had an argue with my wife, who said:" Either Piano World, or me, choose!". The problem is that the time zones are 8 hours different here ...


I almost thought your were going to say there was a time zone of 8 hours between you and your wife. Sometimes I don't hear my wife for a couple of minutes... shocked and we have the same conversation if that helps at all...I didn't think so...
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/10/10 07:39 PM

Hahaha, that's funny Bojan! PW won. I got in trouble with my wife yesterday too but, things are better now.

Thanks Monster. I might as well finish... Over the years, we took in 4 exchange students. France, Japan, Germany, Hong Kong. The gal from Hong Kong and her mother are coming tonight at 10:30 for to visit for a few days. Last minute request but, that is fine. We love seeing our girls again. She's been here 2 times since but, her mother has never met us. She's probably going to think, MAN, this guy is NUTS! grin

Tomorrow morning, I return the action on the C-7. I expect to be done with it by noon as how I set regulation prior to removal of the action usually leaves me with very little regulation to do once it is back inside of the piano again. Usually, just hammer and string mating, some touch up tuning and voicing. Then, we head to the cottages again for the weekend returning home on Sunday.

Life is sweet!
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/10/10 07:47 PM

Today I put a new music desk on a Lester Betsy Ross spinet, one without plastic. It was one off the shelf from Schaff, which I finished to roughly the same color as the piano. She was very pleased. It worked well, as there was no point in spending a lot of money on it.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/10/10 09:24 PM

Tuned 4, replaced 3 treble strings on a grand, and installed complete DC systems on 1 grand and 3 verticals - new pianos going to a school. Life is good!
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/11/10 09:36 AM

I have also replaced a missing music rack on a spinet with one of those Schaff jobs. Perfect for those who don't want to pay for custom work on a $200.00 piano.

Yesterday I filled up the new/used car for the first time after five days of driving--6 gallons for 300 miles, aka $20.00 saved! And all my tools fit in the trunk, too.

But there may be something to the Prius prejudice I'd heard about: almost got two parking tickets. One was downtown, while I was running into a business to get some quarters(he gave me a break, much to the surprise of onlookers), the other at Foothill college while I finished tuning the practice room pianos(no lady with open door this time...). I called security, and they sent the Cushman cops (sort of like Keystone Kops) around to sign it off.

Tuned a friend's Kawai RX-2 and headed home.

I agree with Bob and Jerry--Life IS Good!
Posted by: pppat

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/14/10 03:25 PM

Today I started the 2nd of my two weeks as an apprentice for one of the leading techs of this country. I'm guided through restoring a Bechstein from around the 30's, and participate in regulating a Steinway A. Very grateful for this opportunity!
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/14/10 07:17 PM

Today, tuned a Knabe KN 590. R&L pitch. Then tuned a Gulbransen spinet with plastic elbows and damper flanges. Was close to pitch. My dad had tuned this piano in 1957. I was one year old. Next, I removed an action on a Cable Nelson spinet, tuned it up first though. Took it to my shop.

Tomorrow, I will be removing another action on a Yamaha U1 and then will be working on the both of these actions returning one Thursday late AM and the other Friday, PM.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/14/10 09:35 PM

8am teeth cleaning.

9:30 am - Replaced action brackets and Reg on a YC. As is typical, someone tried to reg the old brackets, so I'm turning capstans and let-off dowels more than a turn to get the thing back into spec! I had to align hammers to the strings as well. After filing the grooves out of the hammers, re-pinning a dozen loose hammer flanges, and gluing a loose hammer, it turned out just fine. Finished 3pm and ate lunch.

5 pm Tuned a Yamaha T 118 - pins very tight but tunable. The little girl who plays hovered over me the whole time. Fidgeting, making noise, leaning on one side of the keys, then the other side. Standing on the stool used for a foot rest to see better. She was sweet, so I put up with the distractions and made sure she played me a song before I left!
Posted by: OperaTenor

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/15/10 01:37 AM

Update on the SD-10 from a couple of pages back:

The customer really liked how my work came out. One of the musicians made the over-the-top comment of thinking it is now one of the five best-sounding pianos in southern California(like I said, over-the-top).

Now, I'm about to regulate a 1925 M action, and i'm trying to figure out what to do with a lovely Brock & Vincent upright PSO in the back of my moving truck right now.

Speaking of which, everything I can find on B&V(London) has no serial number data, and just lists the year 1897. I ought to take a photo and post it, but it sure seems to me like this piano is more like 1877 than '97. It's small, like a modern studio, straight-strung, bird cage action(yup, all the makings of a nice writing desk), Brazilian rosewood veneer case, and the remnants of candlestick mounts. Am I incorrect thinking this style of piano was gone by 1897?

I also have a 1910 Ludington upright for R&R'ing key tops and tuning. One of my neighbors asked me for some advice on buying a piano, and I offered to find one for them. Craigslist here has about a half a dozen free pianos listed every week, and out of those, one or two is usually serviceable. So, I thought I'd hang out my shingle as a locator, putting people with pianos and making them work as instruments for them. Seems like a popular idea.

And my refinishing project keeps plodding along...
Posted by: piano_tech chris

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/16/10 02:49 PM

jabbed myself with an 8 needle sugar coater while voicing an older diapason grand. youch!
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/16/10 03:29 PM

Hahahaha, sorry Christopher, but, me thinks it's funny. Been there done that to many times. Just last week as a matter of fact.

Today, tuned a Yamaha G-1, nice tuning piano. Tuned a Yamaha C-3, another nice tuning pianos. Came home and worked on an action this afternoon. Now, I'm off for a massage.
mmmmmmm. Hope he doesn't own any needles.....
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/16/10 11:19 PM

I have a couple of fingers that have a really nice, soft tone.. crazy ..just musing that acupuncturists would probably make great voicers.

Went for a four hour bike ride in the hills, tuned a kawai kg3 for a youth symphony concert, and a Kawai GE 1, then called it a day.
Posted by: pppat

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/17/10 04:51 PM

Traveling hammers on a S&S A all day (tutored, great stuff), then drove by the concert venue to check on a Yamaha C7 i tuned yesterday in a slightly tweaked EBVT III for the concert tonight (7 pm in Nykarleby, Finland), part of The Music Festival of Korsholm.

Checked on it between rehearsal and concert, didn't have to adjust a single string (!)... very happy about the stability - I'll carry it with me during those string hoovering moments that are bound to come every now and then smile
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/17/10 06:30 PM

Tuned a Yamaha GH1 this morning then returned an action on a P202. Regulated it, leveled keys etc., the typical regulation stuff. After that, ran a service call to a church with sticking keys. Another but older Yamaha GH1. Then, they also wanted it tuned. Well, it most certainly needed it. When I tuned it last, in March, it was 17 % RH. Today, it was a tad higher at 78 degree's and 48 % RH and quite sharp so, I tuned it for them too. Then, spend a couple of hours doing office work. I am now scheduling September 20th. Not so shabby huh?
Posted by: RPD

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/17/10 08:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT
Tuned a Yamaha GH1 this morning then returned an action on a P202. Regulated it, leveled keys etc., the typical regulation stuff. After that, ran a service call to a church with sticking keys. Another but older Yamaha GH1. Then, they also wanted it tuned. Well, it most certainly needed it. When I tuned it last, in March, it was 17 % RH. Today, it was a tad higher at 78 degree's and 48 % RH and quite sharp so, I tuned it for them too. Then, spend a couple of hours doing office work. I am now scheduling September 20th. Not so shabby huh?


Not shabby at all Jerry...very cool...shows what hard work, pursuit of excellence and attention to detail for years can do for a business...

RPD
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/17/10 10:39 PM

Thanks Rick! I know you're keeping yourself very busy as well!
Posted by: pppat

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/18/10 09:52 AM

Originally Posted By: Dave Stahl


Went for a four hour bike ride in the hills, tuned a kawai kg3 for a youth symphony concert, and a Kawai GE 1, then called it a day.


smile Dave, was it you that ride a scooter for tuning calls? I recall a post some time ago. I just bought a Vespa GTS 250 ie, and if the weather is right, I just put my tool box on the luggage carrier and go tuning in style grin
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/18/10 10:26 AM

Came up with a good quip when I was asked what I thought the problem was with a microwave that blew its fuse every time a certain person used it. I replied: "Troubleshooting by coincidence is an act of desperation." I see it happen far too often and lead people down the wrong path.
Posted by: pppat

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/18/10 01:49 PM

Originally Posted By: UnrightTooner
Came up with a good quip when I was asked what I thought the problem was with a microwave that blew its fuse every time a certain person used it. I replied: "Troubleshooting by coincidence is an act of desperation." I see it happen far too often and lead people down the wrong path.


Couldn't agree more - same scenario with computer configurations. They can drive you mad, and desperate, but you just have to eliminate possible error factors one by one, until you get close enough. Then, to cut time, you might throw in an educated guess or two...

Sporadic errors that tend to stay quiet during the service session will almost always resurface just after you leave. I don't know if this is part of Murphy's law, but if it isn't, it should be!
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/18/10 04:58 PM

Originally Posted By: pppat
Originally Posted By: Dave Stahl


Went for a four hour bike ride in the hills, tuned a kawai kg3 for a youth symphony concert, and a Kawai GE 1, then called it a day.


smile Dave, was it you that ride a scooter for tuning calls? I recall a post some time ago. I just bought a Vespa GTS 250 ie, and if the weather is right, I just put my tool box on the luggage carrier and go tuning in style grin


No scooter, just my legs and lungs! The scooter idea does sound pretty good, though!
Posted by: RPD

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/18/10 05:16 PM

Today a shop day. Thank God for air conditioning...it shows as 94 degrees outside here in Lawrence MI, but comfortable 78 in the shop. Worked on an old, beautiful upright for a client who can't rebuild it financially, but wants it in her family still...it'll go out next week with minor work....we need the floor space.

No travel today...sandals and shorts...fun for a change.

RPD
Posted by: pppat

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/18/10 05:21 PM

Originally Posted By: Dave Stahl

No scooter, just my legs and lungs! The scooter idea does sound pretty good, though!



smile Ok, then I remembered wrong. But there IS somebody else on the forum scootering their way to their appointments, that I'm sure of, because he posted pictures and all!
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/18/10 05:28 PM

Yesterday I tuned a Walter console. Afterward I had a meeting with the Hailun president/rep Mr. Bas Strmec to discuss the in-store prepping of a pair of Hailun grands.

In the evening, Andre Orobeek and his wife Ying made the 8 hour drive from Desert Hot Springs to visit Jill and I as part of a big road trip he's doing before the national convention. We talked pianos, travel, life, etc. over dinner and a few beers. I took today day off so that we could see a few sights before I sent them off to Dale Erwin's place in Modesto, CA. Then it's off to the great National Parks Yosemite, Zion, and Capitol Reef.

Andre's a really engaging guy, and even though we hadn't previously met other than on e-mail, meeting him was like seeing an old friend again. If you're going to the convention, make sure to check him out!
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/18/10 06:22 PM

Quote:
Ok, then I remembered wrong. But there IS somebody else on the forum scootering their way to their appointments, that I'm sure of, because he posted pictures and all!


That's Bob you're thinking about in Orlando Fla!

Today, tuned two pianos this morning. A Gulbransen spinet and a Story & Clark console. This afternoon, returned another action for a Cable Nelson console. Finished up leveling keys, mating hammers and all of that fun stuff. Things went so well that I lowered the price to her by $130. She has a happy camper!
Posted by: piano_tech chris

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/18/10 06:42 PM

Serviced a few pianos for a neighboring town's "Keys for the City" campaign. 20 Pianos are placed at downtown locations for approximately 2 months. It has really brought a sense of community back to the town. Local businesses sponsor each piano and they are decorated by local artists.

[img:left]http://picasaweb.google.com/110642119769387977731/KeysForTheCity1#[/img]
Posted by: JMichaelWilson

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/18/10 11:35 PM

Someone gave me an old Wilson and Sons Upright Cutdown (they needed the space in their home for other things, I guess.) I tore it apart, took the action out, removed the keys, vacuumed it out (it was filthy.) I found about $4 in loose change in this piano. I turned the action upside down and shook coins, staples and a lot more stuff out of it. It was hilarious!
Posted by: pppat

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/19/10 06:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Dave Stahl

Andre's [Andre Orobeek] a really engaging guy, and even though we hadn't previously met other than on e-mail, meeting him was like seeing an old friend again. If you're going to the convention, make sure to check him out!



Thank's for the tip, Dave, I definitely will!
Posted by: Eric Gloo

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/19/10 09:58 PM

Had a fun afternoon playing 18 holes of golf on a fairly new local course...and am now enjoying the US Open. Did I mention I like golf?
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/25/10 10:47 PM

This was "Clean the junk out of the Grand Piano week"....Nothing like a grand with 1/2 a bag of M&M candies in the action and under the plate. You think you got them all, and one still buzzes on the soundboard....Then there was the "paperclip Grand"...same thing, paperclips in the action and under the plate. My telescoping magnet took care of that one, except in the action, where I simply turned it sideways and a box worth of paperclips fell out on the floor.....Then the "caramel dripped on the keys, and ended up on the keybed piano" no wonder the shift didn't work well....and finally two just plain full of dust.

I managed to tune a few between cleanings.
Posted by: woodfab

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/26/10 12:17 AM

Worked on a guitar and a glass of wine

Dan
Posted by: pppat

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/26/10 07:02 AM

Observed a master tuning at the PTG convention, and am glad I did so!
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/26/10 12:35 PM

June 21. Sent my son off to tune a piano in a church. I went to tune an Everett console in a home while he did that. Next, I tuned a Yamaha C-3 in a home. Then, I removed an action and worked on it the rest of the day.

June 22: Removed another action in the morning, returned the action I removed and worked on the day prior, went to my shop and worked on this next action for the rest of the day. Had to repin many hammer flanges, filed hammers etc.

June 23: More homes. Tuned a Baldwin M. Tuned a Hardman & Peck console. I don't like the piano but, I've been tuning it like clockwork for 25 years so, I keep doing it. Then tuned a Cable Nelson console. Then got a massage.

June 24: Tuned a Steinway D in a home. Returned another action, regulated it, leveled keys, mated hammers etc.

June 25: Tuned 4 homes. Tuned an Everett console. Tuned a Kawai CX-5H. Tuned a Yamaha C-5. Tuned a Baldwin Acrosonic.

That was my week! Loving it!
Posted by: RPD

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/26/10 01:02 PM

Tuned 6 pianos on my Thursday...Friday shop work all day.

Also, stayed up in the yard until 3am last night, setting up my wife Jane's new 6 foot tall Dobsonian 14 inch lense telescope.

With this tool, I can now see Dan Silverwood, and also easily audit the classes at the PTG convention ;-)

RPD
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/26/10 02:18 PM

You're not spying on the neighbors now too are you RPD???? smirk

Dan, now Rick can really see if we're actually working or NOT! OH NOOO!
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/26/10 02:50 PM

Originally Posted By: RPD
Tuned 6 pianos on my Thursday...Friday shop work all day.

Also, stayed up in the yard until 3am last night, setting up my wife Jane's new 6 foot tall Dobsonian 14 inch lense telescope.

With this tool, I can now see Dan Silverwood, and also easily audit the classes at the PTG convention ;-)

RPD


Jerry, with that scope, neighbors are waaaaay to close. More like your neighborhood!

Actually, it's a nice scope for stargazing constellations. So Rick, which one is it? I enjoy stargazing too, just can never stay up that late...way past the streetlights grin along with to much light pollution here in the city, now up north is a different ballpark.
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/26/10 03:31 PM

Originally Posted By: RPD

With this tool, I can now see Dan Silverwood, and also easily audit the classes at the PTG convention ;-)
RPD

What!?......Geez, honey pass me some clothes will ya....quick,.... those voyeurs in MI are at it again.
Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT


Dan, now Rick can really see if we're actually working or NOT! OH NOOO!


Well Jerry, Rick will catch me doing a whole lot of nothing..... I haven’t picked up a tool since June 6th...

You know I like stargazing too Les,....Catherine Deneuve , Juliet Binoche, Eva Green, Sophie Marceaux.....oh, I see..... not those kind of stars.......
Posted by: Dennis Kelvie

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/26/10 04:52 PM

I repaired a broken key on a Korg Electronic piano amongst other things. The owner was a guy who was so stupid drunk I was afraid he would pass out before I finished, and I was pretty sure his check would bounce. He kept offering me a beer (I don't drink the stuff), and kept thanking him, saying this was "the nicest gift you could give me!"

In the end though, he paid in greenback cash and the job went well and turned out well, so I guess I shouldn't complain. . .
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/27/10 06:53 AM

Originally Posted By: Silverwood Pianos
[quote=RPD]
You know I like stargazing too Les,....Catherine Deneuve , Juliet Binoche, Eva Green, Sophie Marceaux.....oh, I see..... not those kind of stars.......


Saw a special with Raquel Welch last week, she still looks good -with some well placed $$ in key spots blush
Posted by: Bojan Babic

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/27/10 04:54 PM

I was happy for two reasons. The first, an old upright that I was waiting for to start restoration came from Vienna in the morning, and second, my Andree O. book about voicing also came today, so I can enjoy reading it, slooowly.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 06/27/10 05:31 PM

Andre's book is a pretty easy read, with excellent pics and a DVD to go with it.

Yesterday, I tuned a Kawai RX 7 that I service every 3-4 months. It's great working on good pianos often so that they can be improved on with each visit.

Then it was off to an airport hotel for a Schafer SS 51 that is purty near beat to death: floppy pedals, broken string, squeaks, creaks, regulation poor, hammers worn. This was my first time at this one, so I did what I could in the limited time I had.

Then a Kawai k-3 upright. They sure are easy to tune!

Today, hangin' with wife and sun on a rather toasty 95 degree day. I might have to bag the bike ride and drink beer instead...
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 07/08/10 04:15 PM

So has everyone been on a hiatus? I doubt it.

Tuned a '51 Grinnell Bros spinet. Was in good shape overall, pins felt nice. It does need some general maintenance which I pointed out, hopefully the school will put it/me in the budget wink
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 07/08/10 09:04 PM

I had 5 tunings scheduled on Thursday and during tuning # 4, a local concert artist called with an emergency tuning on his Hamburg D for Friday auditions. By the time I arrived home at about 10:30 pm, I had dispatched 170 miles, 6 tunings, and 15 hours on the road. Love it!
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 07/08/10 10:17 PM

3 tunings today out of 4 scheduled....the fourth called early AM to reschedule (which was okay with me).

Noteworthy pianos, all: A Shigeru Kawai SK-7, A 7' 9" Petrof, and a 5' 6" Petrof. A grand day! All pianos were at pitch, the small Petrof needed a little voicing.

New car report: I drove 100 miles today and used less than 2 gallons of gas. The Prius is an amazing vehicle that I'd recommend to any tech.

It's good to get home before the wife, so I can play my own piano for a while!
Posted by: Inlanding

Re: So, what did you do today? - 07/12/10 05:15 PM

Tuned, voiced, then fine tuned again a heavily played Young-Chang upright, tuned and cleaned a messy 1950s Wm Knabe grand, also did a pitch raise and tuned a Pramberger JP-280. Even though the tuning pins were pretty tight, the pinblock on the Pramberger felt somewhat spongy, if that's the right term for it.

Glen
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 07/13/10 08:35 AM

Well, last week nothing! Vacation time! This week, yesterday, I tuned 4.

1. Kawai GM 10. Tuned in 2008 by me. Was 437. Raised to 440, took my time, done in 50 minutes. Came out nice.

2. Kawai RX-6. Last tuned in April. WAY sharp. Lowered about 1/4 tone to pitch, again done in 50 minutes.

3. Tuned a Wurlitzer spinet. Raised 1/4-440. Yapped with the customer, played with the dog. Played with the dog some more, fun little critter. The rooms were circular. He'd tear around the corner, go through the house, come around the other corner and race past me before I could touch him skidding all the way. Sometimes, he'd stop shy of the corner, peek his head around it, turn around and tear the other direction again. Maybe trying to reverse his dizziness from going in circles for so long. sick Talked with the kids. An hour and a 1/2 later, I was finally done!

4. Tuned a Yamaha console. Last tuned 2007, me. Was almost right on pitch. Spent 50 minutes fooling around with fine tuning it. I like those kind.

5. Came home, finished playing catch up on the phone calls that came in from last week, emails and all that fun stuff that nobody does for you while you're gone.

Today, I pick up another action, take it to my shop, work on it, file hammers etc...
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 07/15/10 07:50 PM

I'm officially a PTG Associate Member as of today
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 07/15/10 07:55 PM

Congratulations Les!
Posted by: RPD

Re: So, what did you do today? - 07/15/10 11:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Silverwood Pianos
Originally Posted By: RPD

With this tool, I can now see Dan Silverwood, and also easily audit the classes at the PTG convention ;-)
RPD

What!?......Geez, honey pass me some clothes will ya....quick,.... those voyeurs in MI are at it again.
Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT


Dan, now Rick can really see if we're actually working or NOT! OH NOOO!


Well Jerry, Rick will catch me doing a whole lot of nothing..... I haven’t picked up a tool since June 6th...

You know I like stargazing too Les,....Catherine Deneuve , Juliet Binoche, Eva Green, Sophie Marceaux.....oh, I see..... not those kind of stars.......



Les, congrats on the PTG membership! And, its a new design Orion 14 inch truss tube Dobsonian telescope, around 3K with lenses...thing stands 6 feet tall!...Jane got to spend the day 5 years ago or so, with a very elderly but energetic John Dobson (world known inventer of the Dobsonian and also Sidewalk Astronomers), so that's the one we wanted!

Jerry, yes, I can see you in Grand Rapids now. But, darn thing is that you're never there anymore with this summer every-other-week on vacation thing. Later, I'll figure a way to get even with you for all that down time. Somehow....

Dan, yes, you MUST find a way to keep your clothes on out there...now that we are "all seeing" around here. Hey, what are you doing with that Chicken suit anyway?!!

OK, now for me: Today had six appts, 5 tunings (where I continued to explore EVBTiii) and one pick up of an old action with ivories yellowed with smoke and age...venerable old Bush and Gertz grand...nice piano...they're committing to a couple K in work with moisture control and full regulation and minor repair...Jane booked Kevin Murphy (wood worker extrordinaire!) to come to our shop to polish out a piano that we didn't rebuild...Tomorrow we move a piano in the morning, and shop work on an old pump organ we're delivering this month.

Tonight, quiet time with my guitar...songwriting for a new CD project for which studio time is around the corner, shows starting Spring 2010. Photos in a couple months...I had to give up eating after purchasing a digital scale (Jane says fat OR bald)

Tomorrow night, more stars if its not raining. Who needs sleep. There's a whole UNIVERSE out there!!!!

RPD
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 07/15/10 11:21 PM

Quote:
Jerry, yes, I can see you in Grand Rapids now. But, darn thing is that you're never there anymore with this summer every-other-week on vacation thing. Later, I'll figure a way to get even with you for all that down time. Somehow....


You got me cracking up, pardon the pun, over here Rick!

Isn't Kevin Murphy AWESOME?! He talks your fool head off but, he sure does excellent work!!! I sent him in not to long ago to repair the side, bottom board and toe, I guess you call it, on a Yamaha studio after someone pushed the casters over the lip of something without taking off the weight. They pulled the whole toe block out of the corner of the piano along with the side of the case. Busted it up pretty good but, Kevin did his magic on it.

I tuned a Cable Nelson spinet this morning then tuned a concert Schimmel. Was going golfing this afternoon but, it was so blooming hot, my son decided he didn't want to go after all and I didn't want to go alone so, I stayed inside with my A/C on and did nothing.

Tomorrow, I return an action in the morning and then, hehe he he heheeee, I go bye bye again for a week. Well? I have to hide from Rick somehow now that he can see my every move with his new toy! wow
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 07/16/10 12:48 AM

Originally Posted By: Monster M&H
I'm officially a PTG Associate Member as of today


Way to go, Les! It's a big step forward in many ways.

Today I did 5: A Schafer upright with 30 cent pitch raise; two Kawai uprights each untuned for two years, one needed a pitch raise; a 20 cent pitch raise on a Steinway B from the 70s with teflon wippens (but not hammers) that had been bought from a recording studio; pitch raised and tuned the oldest Yamaha P-2 I've ever seen, serial number in the 700,000 range. What a beater! But it sounded surprisingly good, except when the ceiling fan was on....

Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 07/16/10 12:50 AM

Printed programs for the municipal band concert. I am running low on toner, and have to fool the printer into printing some more pages.
Posted by: A=443

Re: So, what did you do today? - 07/16/10 11:48 PM

Hi everyone

I went to a carpenter's tools store.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYjCnwXIaIw
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 07/23/10 01:24 PM

Tuned a Story & Clark today, had to pitch raise, set the temp, tuned up and adjusted on the way back down. It was a semitone low to start with.
Posted by: Eric Gloo

Re: So, what did you do today? - 07/23/10 05:15 PM

Returned the rental car I've had all week. My car has been in the auto body shop being repaired from the damage caused by one of my tuning customers backing into it in his driveway. So, I've had a brand new Chevy Malibu all week. Sweet car! Pitch-raised and tuned a nice Samick console this afternoon...only 5 minutes from my house.
Posted by: Brooke Taylor

Re: So, what did you do today? - 07/23/10 05:20 PM

Read books, caught lizards, played the piano, went to Chick-Fil-a, the ice cream shop, and now home.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 07/23/10 07:10 PM

Eric, I had that happen to me, as well. Now, if I notice someone from the house is going to leave, I always remind them I'm in the driveway, and ask if they need me to move. After that incident, I parked in the street - then a customer's neighbor from across the street took out my driver's door with his SUV as he backed out of his driveway. He said "no one EVER parks there". I finished my day by climbing in though the passenger side door, as the driver's door wouldn't open. Not very graceful. So now, I'm back to parking in driveways.
Posted by: RPD

Re: So, what did you do today? - 07/23/10 09:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT
[quote]

Isn't Kevin Murphy AWESOME?! He talks your fool head off but, he sure does excellent work!!!


Yes, Kevin is SO needed around this region! We send him as much work as we can...and he has a ton of local history regarding all the techs, the stores, and even many of the pianos in homes around here!

He's coming to our shop next month to assist us again!

Tuned 24 pianos in four days (sheesh!) and today did catchup business and got 4 hours in shopwork done too...tomorrow we head off to Chicago to catch up with Gary Wright and the Ringo Starr band...Life is good...

Renewed my annual subscription to the PTG Journal today...$150 of the best dollars spent this year!

RPD
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 07/24/10 12:05 AM

What did I do today? Came home from vacation! grin
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 07/24/10 09:51 AM

I had my car totaled last year by the neighbor of a client backing into it! What is it with piano tuners' cars? Are they the Rodney Dangerfields of motor vehicles? No respect!

Today I have two tunings on a Steinway "D" for a Jon Nakamatsu concert with Symphony Silicon Valley in downtown San Jose. I hope the pitch stays in the somewhere within sight of 440--it's outdoors...
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 07/24/10 12:14 PM

Have the movers leave some blankets. The secret to tuning for outdoor concerts is to raise the lid with the fly unfolded, and cover it and yourself with movers blankets. That cuts out almost all the noise and you can tune in peace.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 07/24/10 01:34 PM

BDB, this may be a dumb question but, what is "the fly?" I picture a zipper... wink Is that the front part of the lid that you first open before you raise the lid?
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 07/24/10 01:52 PM

Yes.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 07/24/10 02:13 PM

Thank you sir!
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 07/24/10 02:19 PM

Originally Posted By: BDB
Have the movers leave some blankets. The secret to tuning for outdoor concerts is to raise the lid with the fly unfolded, and cover it and yourself with movers blankets. That cuts out almost all the noise and you can tune in peace.


Thanks, BDB. That's apparently part of the promoter's modus operandi. I hope the blankets are light colored.
Posted by: Eric Gloo

Re: So, what did you do today? - 07/24/10 02:55 PM

If it were around here, I'd hope the blankets were waterproof, too!
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 07/24/10 03:10 PM

I learned to do this once when it rained. The original idea was to keep the piano dry. Muffling the sound was an added benefit.
Posted by: Gadzar

Re: So, what did you do today? - 07/24/10 09:41 PM

I'm tuuuuning in the rain.... Just tuuuuning in the rain...
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 07/24/10 10:17 PM

Nice day for an outdoor tuning, actually...it was 75 degrees with 47 percent humidity pretty much all day, the piano was shielded by a large stage shade.
Posted by: Inlanding

Re: So, what did you do today? - 07/31/10 10:53 PM

Over the past couple of days, I tuned a Yamaha C7, Steinway O, and an old Poole spinet (never seen action below the keys before - a new one).

My ears and shoulder are shot!

Glen
Posted by: Piano Guy

Re: So, what did you do today? - 07/31/10 11:34 PM

Moved 3 pianos....1 six foot YC grand...3 flights of stair
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/02/10 12:34 AM

The truck didn't turn over very well Saturday morning.

My 9am was a 1940's era Baldwin Acro with a warped key bed. The hammers were more than an inch off the hammer rest rail at the low bass and high treble, graduating to about 1/4" off the rail in the center. The customer is 89 years old, and suddenly decided to learn the piano, so this was a $300 Craigs List find. Fortunately, there was enough capstan travel to get the end hammers on the rest rail and the rest of the action just needed a few minor repairs. Raised pitch and tuned. Finished about 12 noon.

Truck turned over a bit worse.

Went to the store and tuned a Steinway M - finished by 1:30pm.

This time the truck barely started, so off I went to the dealer, who replaced the battery. My 2pm tuning turned into 4pm, and my 4pm waited till 6pm, but everyone was happy, including me, as the dealer replaced the battery for free under the warranty- and I didn't lose money on missed tunings.

After sleeping late on Sunday, I spent the afternoon replacing flanges on a Yamaha vertical with broken spring cords. No butt plates, so I opted for re pinning flanges instead of gluing new cords.

Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/02/10 08:56 AM

Won first place at the County Fair for a woodworking project. After investing in shop equipment I thought a wooden lock something Like This would be a good “getting to know you” project. There were three entries in the category and the 1st place price was $3! (The entry fee was $2…)
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/06/10 08:46 AM

Put my IT hat on this week. Purchased a new PC for the wife - Windows 7/Office 2007 - am now trying to get all of her transcription software to work with W7 & Word. Will someone please just let me tune a spinet with lots of false beats...PLEASE.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/06/10 10:02 AM

IT...ouch!

Yesterday I tuned a spinet at a cafe/art gallery for a show this weekend, a Kawai upright for a music teacher, and a Kawai GM-12 petite grand 50 miles away (with a huge time gap between the last two). Rather than try to muster up another appointment to fill that gap, I decided to take my bike and gear so that I could ride up to the summit 3900 foot Mt. Diablo on a beautiful 72 degree day with a light breeze. Well worth it! Self employment does have its perks.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/06/10 03:09 PM

Came home early from vacation this week just to work. To darned busy not to work. But, am only tuning 1/2 days, mornings. Went to Dr. Found out I have a hernia, as I suspected. Need surgery. That's gonna be fun. NOT. OUCH. Oh well, I'm still busy as a beaver on a wood tick farm. Did that make any sense? Didn't think sooooo.
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/06/10 03:18 PM

Hey Jerry, I need to have that done to me too... not the beaver on a wood tick thingy either...
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/06/10 03:58 PM

Yesterday a friend who is trying to do some piano tuning came over with a grand shank that he had pushed the bushing cloth out of. It is just an example of the trouble that you can get into with too little knowledge.

Aside from the bushing, the hole in the birdseye was enlarged and elongated. I fixed that, too.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/06/10 04:16 PM

Did you bonk him on the head with it afterward BDB?
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/06/10 04:41 PM

No, I showed him some of the tricks: how to prepare the cloth so it goes through the hole easily, tightening the birdseye by glueing a strip cut from a business card, that sort of thing.
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/07/10 11:50 AM


Well, it is not about pianos all the time around here. Sometimes I take a break and do other projects...like this one.

A young fellow came to me about building a music box as a gift.

So I sent him off with some old decorative piano boards I had lying around here; you know ones with a lot of detail and scroll work on the inlay pieces of the front board. Sometimes the inlay pieces are ¼ inch hardwood and this is what is needed for a music box. He is busy carving them up into the correct size pieces. Then once constructed I have to colour and finish the unit.

Kind of a fun project actually....

http://picasaweb.google.ca/silverwoodpianos/MusicBox?authkey=Gv1sRgCJzwsdLS0ovR7wE#
Posted by: Jbyron

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/07/10 12:16 PM

Sounds interesting Dan. A great idea. Could you post a picture of the finished or almost finished unit?
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/07/10 12:41 PM

Sure thing Byron,

When the unit comes back for colour and finishing I will take some shots and post them.

He is looking for midnight red. What you do is colour red mahogany or cherry and then successive coats of NGR black tint in the gun until you get the darkness you want.

So the item will appear black from 20 ft away and the when you get up REAL CLOSE you can see the red under-tone....
Posted by: Larry Buck

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/07/10 04:35 PM

Tuned a Fazioli 278 earlier today ... Pretty neat piano !!
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/07/10 05:53 PM

40th high school reunion tonight, first reunion I've been to. I'm not sure if I'm looking forward to it or not.
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/07/10 05:57 PM


You will be surprised Dave. I was....
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/08/10 01:53 AM

It was very interesting: Lots of old friends I'd forgotten about but was very happy to see. I had a good time, and ended up liking several people I never knew before, too!
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/08/10 02:22 AM

Mine is later this year. I will not be going. It is in my busy season. Besides, I was only there a couple of years, and have had no contact with anyone I went there with since I graduated until this year.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/09/10 06:49 PM

Tuned 4 pianos today. 2 in 2 homes and 2 in a church. Arriving to the church, we found a very full parking lot which only means one thing.... A funeral... I had to kill two hours. The one piano was directly below (OF COURSE!) the sanctuary which could be heard up there. Of course, the other piano was in the sanctuary. So, we took a very looooooooooooooong lunch hour. 2 hours worth. Then, I dropped off my son to the church while I went and played around with EBVT III on my last tuning for the day. It came out pretty nice considering the piano was almost 1/2 tone flat when I arrived. Then, I went back to the church and helped my son finish up. Then, home, Toto, home I went.
Posted by: pppat

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/09/10 08:53 PM

Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT
[...] Went to Dr. Found out I have a hernia, as I suspected. Need surgery.
[...]
Oh well, I'm still busy as a beaver on a wood tick farm.


@Jerry: Where is the hernia located - is it gonna be tricky to operate on? (Sorry if I miss out on the subtleties of language)

Speaking of ticks, I took up my fallowed field soccer career last week (local division 6 play), but my positive thinking got some several blows right from the beginning. During the first game (in the intermission pee-pause), a tick decided that I was worth clinging too. Removed after about 24 hrs, it still gave me a tickle fever.

Next game, I got a muscle rupture in my right thigh - giving me a bruise the size of an over-sized post card. Needless to say, hurting as h*ll.

So I think higher powers are throwing hints at me - they really think I should end vacation and do some less dangerous work.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/09/10 10:45 PM

Hi Patrick,

I answered your question via PM! I'm not saying it here!!! blush
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/10/10 08:32 AM

Replaced the highest monochord bass string on a Howard (Baldwin) spinet. The string was missing, so after a conversation with the supplier’s winder, I took what measurements I could by snaking a length of thin, soft wire into place and marking where the terminations and the winding ends would be, and measuring the diameters of the next lowest monochord. This saved me from pulling the drop action and was probably more accurate. Well, the string that I received had the exact length of the winding with no allowance for stretch. I tried it as it was but had to remove a half dozen turns of winding. Then again, I did not put a twist in the string. I did not want it to stand out from its neighbors in this middle aged piano. That might have helped, but I don’t think so. I think I will switch suppliers. Want to know which supplier? Schhhhh…, it’s a schecret.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/10/10 08:36 PM

Well, today was the day of all days. I arrived to a school that I've been tuning for over 35 years. They have 14 pianos. I was planning on tuning 8 today and 7 tomorrow along with 1 home client tomorrow. After we started tuning, my son and I, someone from the office approached my son and simply handed him a piece of paper that said, we only need 3 pianos tuned this year. "Jer" walked it over to me. I walked into the office and said what is this? "We decided that we only need 3 pianos tuned this year." And, when did "we" decide this? "2 months ago." I made this appointment two months ago. And, why, did it take you until NOW to inform me of this!? "Well, you are here, now." I was also told that they "thought of it last week but then, forgot again." I said, do you have ANY IDEA what you just did? This person gave me a look as if he could care less. I said, it is because of YOU and your total and absolute inconsiderateness that I just now, lost over $1,200 worth of income for this week!!!!!!! Do you suppose for a moment, that you could have informed me of this 2 months ago or, 1 month ago, or even last week maybe instead of waiting until NOW to do it? That is extremely rude! I cannot fill this time slot on such short notice!!! Especially the remainder of today! I am on vacation next week so I cannot pull something out of a straw hat from there. I am tuning at my college the following two weeks after that, so nothing can be yanked from there either. My other schools and churches requested the dates that they have after that. THANKS A LOT for waiting until NOW to do this.

I said, I do not have a problem at all with the fact that you need to pare back. I understand this but, you need to understand just exactly what you just did and that this is one huge income loss for me and another reason why my prices will likely go up to EVERYONE again next year. You need to give advanced notice of things like this.

You know what? I didn't even receive an apology from this snob, not so much as a gee, sorry man, nothing. And he was a part of a "Christian School?" I would fire this guy if he worked for me for doing that. He is a "business manager." Fire him instead and save the school tens of thousands.

I'm still mad. Does it show? mad mad mad

Posted by: pppat

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/10/10 08:52 PM

Jer, it surely does, and you make a good and unquestionable case, too.

There is probably a board further up the ladder to send these very words to. If you need references, just refer to us here at the forum wink
Posted by: Jbyron

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/10/10 09:03 PM

I'm sorry to hear that, Jerry. It's a good thing that you explained to him the effects of his actions on your business. Maybe he'll make more of an effort to communicate next time.

I know you didn't ask for my advice but, what I do when something like that happens is, remind myself of all the times that it does work smoothly, and that some lumps have to be thrown in once in a while.

The road has to have a few bumps in it to keep ya on your
toes.

I don't stay mad for as long when I think like that.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/10/10 10:37 PM

As you said, Jerry, figure cancellations into your rates. I get a couple of cancellations a month, and they get noted in the file. Most reschedule, and I have the opportunity to make some extra money to make up for it. Just think of all the pitch raises those 11 un tuned pianos will need next year!
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/10/10 11:46 PM

That sucks, Jerry. Why is it so hard for some people to understand that for the self employed time = money. Time lost = - $. That's a huge chunk of income. One is bad enough, but a whole couple of days worth of business is a huge chunk.

If I were you, I might consider billing them for late cancellation. If you end up losing the client, it might be a blessing in disguise.

No, I couldn't tell you were mad...:<:{
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/11/10 09:47 AM

Around here most professionals have a policy of 24 hours notice for any type of cancellation:

As a business professional, I have the same policy.

Jerry,

In this case you received no cancellation notice. This is only being done because this person thinks that he/she can get away with this. Because you have been doing this place for a long time, they think you need the work to survive.

Also they wanted you to show up, and would you have done so for 3 pianos only?

Here is what I would do:

I would send an invoice for the 3 pianos tuned.

Send a further invoice for the FULL AMOUNT you have lost. With this further invoice, send a cover letter explaining that this work was booked in good faith; due to no cancellation notice you have not been given an opportunity to book other work that you could have been paid for. Now the time is lost and you are un-able to recover it, also due to no cancellation notice. If you are in the mood, in that letter make an offer to reduce the following invoice from full tuning charges to a service call on each of the instruments missed.

Send this invoice and the accompanying letter to the HEADMASTER or head administrator of the school.

Do not send this to the business manager. As a matter of fact I would not have further dealings with this person; you have entered into an agreement with this person in good faith and this has caused you a detriment.

In reality, this falls under estoppels’ law called promissory estoppels’. Estoppels’ law has developed differently in different countries of the western world and is not often used as a sword but in this case it just might be appropriate.

Basically a party cannot promise something, and then do something else causing the other party a detriment. They can be “estopped” from doing so.....

You booked the tunings in good faith 60 days ago. After agreeing to this appointment, you have attended, and this has now caused you a detriment because the other party changed the agreement.

You don’t have to follow up on the letter or the invoice but I would send them anyways to show you are serious about your work.

A little morning reading for you.......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estoppel

Specifically this part:

Estoppel by silence—Estoppel that prevents a person from asserting something when he had the right and opportunity to do so earlier, and such silence put another person at a disadvantage.

Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/11/10 12:07 PM

Thank you all for your kind words and thoughts. They are appreciated. After putting a lot of thought into what I was going to do, I decided to write an email to both the school principal and to the person in charge of the pianos. The following is what I just now, sent to them:

Hi ****, (Name intentionally deleted)

I'm not sure that you are aware of what took place yesterday, but I lost $1,260 in income. A tremendous amount of money. This was due to the simple fact that I was not notified in advance that the school was planning on tuning only 3 pianos instead of the 14 that you currently have. **** (name deleted) even mentioned to me on the phone at school yesterday that she thought of this change of plans last week but yet, she never bothered to call me. Why not? I could have filled in this lost time with something else instead of having a day and a half off like I do now. We scheduled this appointment 2 months ago.

I have been servicing for your school for well over 35 years and expect to continue servicing for you in the future. I am not trying to intentionally get any one person into trouble and I do not want to lose the school system over this letter due to a possible reprimand of the people responsible for it but I feel that you must be informed of this to avoid any future problems with this type of thing for either myself or with other vendors. As a Christian organization, I know that you will appreciate being informed of what took place so that corrections can be made to avoid this in the future.

After much deliberation and after sleeping on it, I decided that it was not fair to punish the entire school system for the apparent lack of consideration of a couple of people. I do expect however, that this will never happen again. I want you to know too ****, that I have chosen, (this time) to completely forgive the school. I nearly sent a bill for some of my lost income, but I chose not to do so. Forgiveness is often better than anger and holding a grudge.

Any business requires at least 48 hours notification of cancellation or change of service. Even without a written contract which we have never used and have never needed, it is a simple common courtesy for anyone to inform the other party of a change of plans prior to their arrival. In particular, when it is something of this magnitude. I was pretty angry over it yesterday as you can well imagine you might be too if this had happened to you. Losing a total of $1,260 in income is nothing to sneeze at. This is totally ridiculous, UN-Christian and very unacceptable.

Below, is an email I sent to **** last night. When we scheduled the appointment 2 months ago, we told the office that we were booking out 2 full days to "tune all of the pianos." From that point on, that is exactly what I assumed we were doing until yesterday when I was informed otherwise after my arrival there. The business manager told me that he knew of this 2 months ago when we booked this appointment. That gave him, ****, or someone else, 2 months to notify me…
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This is what I sent to the person in charge of the pianos that should have contacted me about the change.

Hi ****,

Today, I was surprised and quite taken aback to discover that 10 tunings were completely eliminated AFTER, I arrived to the school.

Because someone did not call me in advance, I was forced to take a pay cut this week of over $1,200 worth of lost work and lost income. I am on vacation next week so I can't just grab something from there to put in the rest of today or tomorrow where I now have a day off. I am working at Calvin College the following two weeks so I cannot grab something from there either. The rest of my scheduled clients are planning on certain dates in September so, I'm stuck… It is this type of inconsideration that causes prices to increase for everyone in the long run and it is not acceptable.

Now, I can easily understand the need to cut back, there is no problem there. However, I cannot understand when I set the appointment two months ago, why I was not informed of this cut sometime between then and today. That is only common courtesy.

My family and I, have been tuning for the school for over 35 years. Had someone just said hey Jer, we're really hurting, we need to cut back a bit for a year or so, could you help us? You know what? I don't do this very often and I do not do this for everyone but, I will do it for my good clients like your school. To help the school out, I would have tuned ALL of the pianos for $80 a piece instead of $140 which is my normal price. That would have saved the school $826. But, nobody thought to ask…

I will continue tuning for the school in the future as we have a long standing relationship but the understanding must be made that if there is a cancellation of this magnitude, I must be notified in advance of it. It is only fair for me.

What I would like to know now, to place it into my records for next year, is what shall we plan on from now on? Tuning all of them every other year? What kind of plan should we consider?

Sincerely,

Jerry Groot RPT<<<<
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Thanks for taking the time to read this ****. I am home today because I could not find anything else to fill in this very large void on such short notice as mentioned above. Being self employed, nobody pays me for sick days, vacation days, or any other days off or for missed work of any kind and of course, my business expenses continue as usual.

Jer

Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/11/10 02:37 PM

Dang Jerry, sorry to hear that.

Shoot and I was happy to tune an M.Schultz grand in need of some real TLC. Did get the job to repair the bench though...
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/11/10 02:43 PM

I received a call almost immediately from the principal upon his receiving that email from me. He could not apologize enough for what happened. He doesn't want to lose me as their technician either. He said that he went and talked to their newer business manager and told him things like this are NOT ACCEPTABLE and that he was wrong for the way he handled things. He said he would also talk with the music director as things could have, and should have been handled much, much differently. I think he apologized about 10 times.
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/11/10 02:44 PM

Congrats, it nice to get some feed back..
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/11/10 10:01 PM

One apology for each missed tuning! Nice....... Two of my stops tomorrow are past cancellations. One canceled an hour prior to the appointment, and I couldn't confirm the second one the night before, so I didn't go. I may find some extra work each piano needs for some extra $$$$.....In fact, I'm sure I will......... grin
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/12/10 09:29 PM

Funny Bob! Today I tuned 3 homes. An RX-2, An RX 6 and a REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLY CRAPPY LITTLE Kohler & Campbell spinet that has only been tuned 4 times in 50 years. I tuned it last April of 2002. It was at 441. 2 strings in the bass had knots tied in them, another had been replaced and one string in the treble was missing. It had noisy rubber grommets. You know darn well, if I tried to remove the action grommets would break... This piano tuned just horrible!!!! I lowered pitch, went over it twice and called it good. I haven't run into one this yucky in a long time. Time for a replacement for sure.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/12/10 09:45 PM

Ha, I had a Kohler Spinet yesterday, and it was just as bad. I was sighing so much with frustration, that the customer commented "sounds like you are frustrated". I would tune a note, and five notes later, the first had slipped.....and I wasn't raising the pitch! The scaling was awful. I finally got it acceptable, but it kicked my butt pretty good!
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/12/10 11:20 PM

There must be a plague of junky spinets with breaking grommets. Yesterday I did a Hallet Davis (a-holian version....) with plastic elbows (replaced already) and plastic damper flanges(none breaking--yet). I spent half of my time there trying to get the pedal spring screws to bit in the bottom board.

Today was a different matter: a Kawai k-3 at pitch, which I polished, tuned and regulated the capstans on, then a Shigeru Kawai SK-6 for the Cabrillo Music Festival at a bed and breakfast high in the mountains, deep in the redwoods. Unfortunately, it included a major pitch adjustment. The building it resides in is a former barn with precious little insulation. I last tuned the piano when it was 43 degrees, 82% and pouring rain, way back in December. Today it was 82 degrees and 43%
humidity, leaving it around 20 cents flat. This is nothing for you midwesterners, I'm sure. Great piano.
Posted by: Jeff Clef

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/13/10 12:35 PM

I must need to get a life--- I actually read the article on estoppel.

Groot, I'm in hopes that the guilty school authorities will take some steps to make things right with you financially. Certainly, their proper apology is a first step in the right direction.

In the future, you might think about booking their appointment with the help of a signed work order. There are standard business forms, easy to find and fill in. They're a lot cheaper than throwing $1260 out the car window on the freeway, and the rebuke, if any, would be fairly gentle.
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/25/10 09:09 PM

Interesting job today. I replaced a wheel on a Steinway D that had thrown a tire on a Colson piano truck. I jacked up the truck, took out the caster, and took it to a place in San Francisco that deals in Colson casters. They replaced the wheel, I replaced the caster, and the piano is rolling again.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/26/10 11:37 AM

BDB, do you have one of those large pneumatic piano jacks?

I tuned a Hamburg B for an outdoor concert. It was 100 degrees when I started, and the piano was very flat. After the pitch adjustment, the bass went 5 cents +/- sharp. It was really squirrely during the pitch raise, but settled acceptably for the final tuning. It's kind of like shooting at a moving target from a moving vehicle.

I have tuned this piano 3 times now in the last 1 1/2 years. The first time was in February at an indoor venue, and the piano was locked in at 445. The next time, earlier this summer at another outdoor event where temps and humidity were ideal, it was spot on at 440. Yesterday, in the midst of a heat wave(but luckily under a huge pine tree!) it was down to around 436 in the mid range.

Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/26/10 11:43 AM

I used my pin block jack. I also stuck a piece of two by six under the leg. You have to lift the truck. The piano comes along for the ride.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/26/10 11:13 PM

Back to the college again. Did 5 Kawai's and one Schimmel vertical today then went for a 2.4 mile walk. Bed time.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/27/10 09:34 PM

Love those Schimmels.........
Posted by: Gadzar

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/27/10 09:44 PM

Today I moved a Concert Harp. First time I lay my hands on one.
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/28/10 03:31 AM

Did 8 today; Cable grand in a church, P-22 for a University dorm, replaced pedals on it last year and this year the sustain pedal pin reamed out and bracket busted, will either replace or fix and tune in a few weeks, Hamilton and old Acro in church, Sohmer Console in home, "Grand" studio in home, S&S L, and Acro console.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/28/10 10:13 AM

Clef,

Thanks for the suggestions. This is the first and no doubt, last time this school will pull that on me. We ironed things out on the phone, no charges from my end, been tuning for them, well, including my dad too, for 45 -50 years. All is forgiven and forgotten.

Love tuning those Schimmels too Bob. They usually sound pretty sweet when I'm done with very few false beats.

Welcome back again Sam! 8. Not me! I think I'm getting to lazy!

I only did 4 yesterday. 1 Schimmel studio, an RX-6, 1 Yamaha full sized upright, one Kawai UST-8. Removed the action on the Schimmel, shoved hammer flange pins back in, many had slid out, tightened action flanges and regulated back checks.

I didn't feel good at all yesterday. Had body aches. Couldn't wait to be done. I am feeling better today though.. grin
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/28/10 06:56 PM

Friday night, a church called, and needed a piano tuned on Saturday for a concert Sat night. I re-arranged my schedule, and set them up for 9am Sat Morning. Got a call an hour later - Can I come at 7am instead? Ok.... rearranged the schedule again. I showed up at 7am Sat morning, and no one is there. no car in the parking lot, no lights on inside, all doors locked, no doorbell to ring, and no answer at the contact number. So I left and went to the store. Just as I get to the store, the phone rings - it's the church....Sorry, can you still come? Hell no, I can't come. I re-arranged my schedule twice for you, got up early for a 7am job, and no one was at the church. Find someone else........ well, I was nicer than that, but I had commitments to other customers .

They called back later and apologized.

I made sure they had someone else to tune the piano and they did - or I suppose I would have re-scheduled for a third time and tuned them myself.
Posted by: Daryl Durand

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/29/10 12:38 PM

I had an appointment scheduled with one of my favorite customers today that turned out to be a no show. She called later in the day and said her husband had a severe head injury from a fall. Most of the time the customer just forgets but in this case she had a good excuse. Still the no shows will drive you crazy.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/29/10 05:24 PM

No-shows are irritating, aren't they? I had one on Friday. Actually, she was there, but she fell asleep while her baby was taking a nap. Very apologetic, too, but it wasn't so bad because it was the last one of the day and of the week!

Yes, the Schimmel uprights are quite nice. I had one on Thursday, along with a Seiler 132 with SMR action. This action has opposing magnets on the jacks and catchers. Nice pianos, both. Very full tone on the Seiler.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/29/10 08:15 PM

It's very rare for me to have a no show because I make a point to confirm all appointments the night before. If the customer doesn't return my messages, and they are out of my way, I usually don't go. That is also rare, though.

I remember one Christmas Eve, years ago, I had four scheduled. 8am went fine. 10am was a no show, 12pm canceled to finish her Christmas shopping, and 3pm wasn't home til 3pm. I was 25 miles from home, so going home wasn't an option. I didn't confirm appointments back then. I haven't worked Christmas Eve since then either. grin
Posted by: Cy Shuster, RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/30/10 09:51 AM

I evaluated an 1850 square yesterday -- an A. H. Gale. Wooden frame; no cast iron. Square tuning pins. Odd to see hammers crosswise to the shanks in the bass, and that starburst pattern of strings in the high treble (they fan out in about 3/4 of a circle). Leather-covered hammers about 3/4" across. Delicate dampers on levers. Ivory keys, with horizontal recesses on the keyfronts. The vertical area above the keys curves towards the front at the sides, so the first and last few keys are shorter and have curved tops. Soundboard is enclosed from the bottom, like a harpsichord. Beautiful rosewood veneer.

160 years old, and still plays! Amazing.

--Cy--
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/30/10 05:43 PM

Tuned 4 Yamaha's today. 1 U 1 and 3 P22's. Dassss it! I have arthritis in my back. I'm finding that tuning many more than 4 a day just kills it. Guess that's a good excuse to not work as any huh??? yippie
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/31/10 05:19 PM

I've been using my hammer like crazy lately...



Would much rather be pulling some strings...lol
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/31/10 06:18 PM

Looking good Les! Do I dare say that you're "board" with it? Or, you're "Strutting" your stuff? Orrrr, you're in the right "frame" of mind? Orrrr, your house is really all "decked" out? Orrrrrr, you live on the upper "tier?" Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr....
Posted by: RPD

Re: So, what did you do today? - 08/31/10 08:20 PM

You "nailed" it, Jerry.
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/01/10 07:19 AM

Of late, just "joisting" around... btw, it's a clients house, my other job.
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/01/10 08:27 AM

Had an old Acro with the capstans and booby trap sticker guides and 150 cents low in pitch. They sell stuff on ebay and had a 3 foot long tube labeled “music wire” that they had not been able to sell and wondered if I was interested. I remember that some hardware stores would carry music wire. I looked inside and sure enough there was a selection of straight-as-an-arrow piano wire without rust, with the ends sawed instead of snipped off, and including some larger sizes. So I said sure I am interested. Sometimes a bass string breaks and I need a piece of heavier wire to splice it. (I don’t have a proper selection, but often just use the heaviest I have…) They said they barter. So what happens? You guessed it, a bichord broke. So I didn’t charge for the splice and got the tube of music wire. I haven’t checked all the sizes, but the largest is 0.125 and the smallest 0.020. Hope I never need the largest!!!
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/01/10 08:49 PM

I tied a knot in note C1 on a Mason Hamlin at the U. I brought the string home, and with the help of a bench vise, made the knot. Wire was a bit stiff..............
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/02/10 12:00 AM

Originally Posted By: Bob
I tied a knot in note C1 on a Mason Hamlin at the U. I brought the string home, and with the help of a bench vise, made the knot. Wire was a bit stiff..............


Ouch! That's serious torque you have to apply. What sized wire did you have to use?
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/02/10 07:54 AM

I used size 21. I tried do make the knot at the school, but there was no way it was going to be small enough to rest in the speaking length. This is an Aeolian Mason that was in a teacher's office but it's just been moved to a practice room. It needs new hammers and strings. I replaced the crusty damper felt two years ago.
Posted by: pppat

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/02/10 07:32 PM

Encouraged by Jerry and others, I realized that I can pull a piano up to approximate pitch very fast, with or without an ETD. Tried that today, and the important thing is "don't dwell".

Well, I don't dwell in my everyday life anymore, but I have a hard time transferring that revelation through my tuning hammer. Anyways, I got where I wanted to be in 15 min - about half the time I normally use. Thanks Jer! smile
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/02/10 07:36 PM

So what did you do with the 15 minutes you saved?
Posted by: pppat

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/02/10 08:12 PM

smile got ready just in time to synchronize our time schedules, and - for once - was there to give my wife a ride back home.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/02/10 09:32 PM

Once those 15 min pitch raises are good, pay attention to how much you turn the lever in relation to the change in pitch. Then evaluate the piano, and pull it close to pitch without playing any notes. That's a blind pitch raise and takes about 4 minutes.
Posted by: Gadzar

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/02/10 09:55 PM

4 minutes? That is 1 string per second!
Posted by: Gadzar

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/02/10 09:56 PM

Can you make a video of that?
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/02/10 09:57 PM

That's right, one hand on the tuning pin tip, one hand on the end of the lever, elbow resting somewhere to control the amount of pull.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/02/10 09:59 PM

One can learn to do this by strip muting the whole piano, tuning the center string by ear, noting how far you move the tuning pin, and duplicate the movement on the outside pins of that note without playing the note. That's a fairly safe way to start. It's easy to raise strings too far at first.
Posted by: Gadzar

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/02/10 10:03 PM

I will try it. But I think it will be easier with two mutes. You can check each string after you tuned it.



Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/02/10 11:02 PM

That's impressive, Bob.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/03/10 08:05 AM

There are a few customers that stick in my mind because I was tuning their piano when some major event happened like 9-11, or the shuttle crashes. Last night will be one of those. The customer told me when I arrived the families black lab was sick, and as I was almost though the tuning, the poor dog started taking a turn for the worse. Everyone had teary eyes, including me. There is nothing like the love of a loyal dog.
Posted by: SM Boone

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/05/10 09:59 PM

what a fine question! It lives forever. Today I was out in spa, temps in VA were 70s, so very nice. This is into my very busy season for tuning, I'm am planning to do 4 on Labor Day tomorrow. Then play catch-up at college the other days until we leave for NC Friday after DAR meeting. LG
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/07/10 09:49 AM

We went to the cabin for the holiday weekend. Saw a rattler with 8 rattles. It was up on the hill far from the cabin, so I let it go. I must be getting soft.
Posted by: Sparky McBiff

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/07/10 06:06 PM

You're not getting soft you're just probably becoming more enlightened.
There is no reason for anybody to kill snakes.
They want to keep out of your way just as much as you want them to keep out of your way.
Besides they eat rodents and make nature more interesting.
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/07/10 08:19 PM

Today I looked at a small Blüthner grand for sale for a client. It used to be a nice piano, but it is quite old now, and needs refurbishing. For my client's purposes, he would be better off getting one of the quite nice new Asian pianos in that size range.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/07/10 08:44 PM

The customer bought the Cable Console new, 38 years ago. After evaluating the pitch, I suggested perhaps it hasn't been tuned in 38 years? The customer laughed. 1 hour and 45 minutes later, the piano was at pitch, and ready for the grandson to take lessons.
Posted by: SM Boone

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/07/10 10:14 PM

inventoried my stuff I am selling! Did NOT realize I had SOOOO much
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/08/10 08:18 AM

Originally Posted By: Sparky McBiff
You're not getting soft you're just probably becoming more enlightened.
There is no reason for anybody to kill snakes.
They want to keep out of your way just as much as you want them to keep out of your way.
Besides they eat rodents and make nature more interesting.

Tell it to my hound! He hates snakes and kills every one that he can. I trust his judgment. He was with me and if I had decided to kill it, he would have gotten in on the act and probably got bit. But left to his own devises, probably not. He's real savvy in the woods.
Posted by: Gadzar

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/08/10 11:18 AM

Dissasembled a Knabe upright to bring up the keyboard to a shop and have the keytops replaced. Tuned 3 pianos. An old Rosenkranz upright, a nice Scholze studio and an ugly console Melodygrand identical to the one I used to have.
Posted by: SM Boone

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/08/10 10:12 PM

so, I completed my inventory that is for sale, skipped out on college venue, Good day!,SM
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/09/10 07:54 AM

Tuned 2 pianos day before yesterday, seeing how I felt after my surgery, tuned 3 more yesterday, was a bit more sore and tired and have 3 planned tunings today as well and 2 for tomorrow and 5 for Saturday... Back into the regular routine again after this week, me thinks...
Posted by: showard

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/09/10 08:06 AM

I went to tune for a funeral home and when I got there the owner asked if it was OK that the room was set up for a service. I didn't really think about what he meant by that until we got into the room and the piano was setup next to a casket with the focus of the service already in it. It wasn't too bad except I kept thinking I heard movement from the casket next to me.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/09/10 08:22 AM

Steve,

My cousin is a nurse. One time, many years ago, she told me while she was on an elevator with a corpse, it sat up by itself. Apparently, the muscles in the tummy tighten or contract or something by themselves? They are cut in caskets to avoid that I was told. Scared the CRAP out of her cause she was alone she said.

My dad tuned in a funeral home at night before, all alone. NOT ME! There are some things I won't do and that's one of them!
Posted by: Mark R.

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/09/10 09:23 AM

Afraid that some partials might start ghosting all by themselves, Jerry?
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/09/10 01:41 PM



You're if you think I'm going into a funeral home at night all alone!

I would probably wind up
Posted by: SM Boone

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/09/10 07:22 PM

I think this is a great post, it lives forever, and is a chance for all to vent!
Today I did a concert tuning at a college for a little 7 ft. Boston, not my favorite piano, any comments on that brand?
This one is coming into 2nd year and already needs voicing. The treble is god-awful,... don't know why the concert person didn't choose our D which is lovely... SM
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/09/10 07:44 PM

# 4 today was Baldwin 243 # 278801. The Customer said it's been 10 years since the last tuning. Could have fooled me, I thought as I measured only 5-7 cents flat across the treble, and 3 flat in the bass. The aural overpull on a model I've tuned 1000 times before was smooth. Pins felt great. Strings rendered well. Tone and action was fantastic. Finished in an hour, including a dust vac.

To the people who built Baldwin 243 # 278801.......nice job!
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/09/10 10:01 PM

I like Bostons ok, but I think they are nothing spectacular. In fact, for less money, I prefer equivalent sized Kawais (who make the Boston).
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/10/10 07:49 AM

The local H.S. bought a 7ft Boston two years ago and has been under the general care of the dealer. I have tuned it some, though. Very tight and springy pins with unpredictable rendering. You have to really work at it to make it stable. It is not very bright and is nice for solo or choral accompaniment, but for musicals and general use the beat-up 70's R is the go-to instrument. It cuts like a knife. (This actually works out as the R is on the floor while the Boston is on the stage. The aisles are not wide enough to switch them without putting them up on their sides. So they have a pit piano and a stage piano.) The Boston has the typical false beats of most pianos in the high treble. And there is a marked increase in the amount of "hiss" where the front scale changes. I can it hear from the audience. I think the dealer’s service contract is about done and I will probably take over the care of it. More than anything it needs to be broken in.
Posted by: Dan Casdorph

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/10/10 05:35 PM

Today I went to prison to work on 2 uprights. A Yamaha P22 that needed some strings and a Suzuki studio that needed 1 bass string and tuning. The Suzuki was really a bad piano, and its the only one i've ever seen. I wonder if they are all that bad..??
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/10/10 05:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Dan Casdorph
The Suzuki was really a bad piano, and its the only one i've ever seen. I wonder if they are all that bad..??


So what was the Suzuki's sentence? -just had to- laugh
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/10/10 05:50 PM

Tuned a Young Chang grand about 6' something that had never been tuned in 15-20 years. Raised it about 1/2 tone to 440.

Tuned a Kawai console, 505 F. Strange. The tuning sounded like somebody was practicing on it. One note might be 443 while the very next note might be 432! The whole piano was like this. No rhyme or reason to it whatsoever. It tuned fine though.

Tuned an Everett studio about 50 years old.

Tuned a Kawai studio UST-8.

Appraised an old Aschen upright. I think that's the right name, I forgot to write it down. Piano was shot. Case was all beat up, hammers shot, flanges shot, bass wires shot, loose tuning pins, built in 1901.

Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/10/10 09:10 PM

# 1 Young Chang PG-150 Last tuned 2007 Raised pitch 35 cents.

# 2 H Cable Gh-42 in a church, Temp 84, humidity 56% re pin sticky jack and tuned. A/C not working.

# 3 Schimmel Grand Raised pitch 25 cents. Nice piano.

# 4 Kohler & Campbell Spinet - Tuned - This was a good copy - I tune it every year.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/12/10 12:52 PM

Yesterday-Saturday: Tuned-

1. Kawai UST-9. R-440.
2. Samick console R 1/4-1/2-440.
3. Schimmel studio R-440.
4. Weber console, R 1/2-440.
5. Kawai grand GM-10 R-440.
6. Hamilton built in 1949, R 1/4-440.
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/12/10 01:33 PM

Feeling better yea Jerry?
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/12/10 02:02 PM

Yes, I am, thanks for asking Les! It's the only surgery to have me thinks!
Posted by: Dan Casdorph

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/12/10 06:02 PM

Originally Posted By: Monster M&H
Originally Posted By: Dan Casdorph
The Suzuki was really a bad piano, and its the only one i've ever seen. I wonder if they are all that bad..??


So what was the Suzuki's sentence? -just had to- laugh



The Suzukis' scale broke the laws of physics.
Posted by: SM Boone

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/14/10 04:27 PM

Love this post! We have returned recently from MTs of NC, and after playing catch up yesterday, I tuned a Kimball console this morning,.... sadly complete with rust on strings & tuning pins... also suspect bridge problems.
Good grief! Why don't these people pay a tech to check it out before they buy and move a piano, and pay a small fortune for....??
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/14/10 08:44 PM

Spent half the day in a Toyota dealership waiting room as my SUV breaks were healed. Went home and scheduled 3 days of work and into next week. 8 per day the next 3.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/14/10 10:07 PM

Gotta pay for the dealership repairs Sam! Only one way to do that! tiki

Did 6 today. A Yamaha console, a Kawai console, both tuned 1 year and 2 years ago respectively. Tuned a 7' something Schimmel grand, another Kawai console, a crappy little Weber grand and then tonight at 7:30, went to do a concert tuning.

smile
Posted by: SM Boone

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/14/10 10:24 PM

good grief Jerry! Years ago I did 8 per day in similar scenario. I had surgery for ganglian cist as a result of those heavy days. Said cist (s) returned and is present to date.... Go easy!
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/15/10 08:56 AM

Thanks SM, I try but, this time of year I start getting swamped and tend to work harder than I should although, I admit, I am not tuning as many pianos as I used to tune, by choice of course. There are those times where I must tune more in order to complete the venue/s on time. So, I do what I have to do and don't when I can get away with it! grin It all comes out in the wash.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/15/10 10:06 PM

Oh boy! I get to go two times in a row!

Did 6 again today. 1 Yamaha P22, 4 Everett studios made in South Haven Michigan and 1 Baldwin studio about 55 years old. Then, I drove for our Local Ronald McDonald House. I've been driving as a volunteer for them every other Wednesday evening from 6-9 PM for going on 9 years now. That was my day!
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/17/10 09:57 AM

I've been tuning for Santa Clara University all week, subcontracting for a friend of mine. I finished up the practice rooms and am working on the pianos in offices, etc. Broke 2 strings, both 14 1/2, both Steinways (one M, one B). Replaced a set of bicords in a Kawai grand. All kinds of noises develop in pianos that get played this often and this hard...and school hasn't even started yet.

Some voicing, some regulation, always something. I'm enjoying the energy of the environment here.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/17/10 04:55 PM

Tuned 7 pianos today. A Mason & Hamilin BB, Schimmel grand, Yamaha grand -C3, Yamaha P202, Kawai UST 8, A Yamaha console M1A, A Baldwin studio. Nice day! Feeling great!
Posted by: SM Boone

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/17/10 07:39 PM

Ironed damp dampers, they were all fuzzy and of course would not seat properly. about 6 just below break, also reset a few treble. Nice to know it worked!
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/18/10 11:17 AM

Did 7 on Friday. P-22, Baldwin L, Chickering console, Kimball console, Acro console, old Hamilton grand, Shiller upright for a internet cafe/coffee house. Blueberry cheesecake scone... mmmmmmm
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/18/10 12:01 PM

One of my daughters got married today. Everyone from out of town stayed at the local Holiday Inn, which boasted a small Samick grand in the lobby. I'd pitch raised it on an emergency basis 3 years ago when they had a Jazz thing at the hotel. I advised the clerk perhaps it was time for another pitch raise!
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/18/10 04:40 PM

Congratulations Bob!!!

I tuned 7 again today. Well, sort of. My son tuned 2 and I tuned 5 but, WE got 7 done plus, we did some repair work like regulation to eliminate bobbling hammers and junk like that. I tuned 1. May Berlin by Schimmel. Don't like it. 2. Schimmel studio. 3. Kawai K-15 studio. 4. Palatino upright. Chinese built. 5. Kawai K-2. 6. An older Everett studio. 7. Kawai UST-8.

whome
Posted by: SM Boone

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/20/10 09:24 PM

Oh good grief, My final for tonight. I just love this topic, it's unloading maximally. ...
So I have this one Yamaha c7 that has been "jerk" tuned in past, and is a pistol. Mind you there is never again the possibility of restoring any semblance of torque in tuning this piano. So last Friday I let it ... down.... waited the weekend to let it equalize a bit. Still a beast! But, DUN
Posted by: Mark R.

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/21/10 05:46 AM

Technically not today, but yesterday...

Placed my order for various technician's tools recently, and while waiting for the delivery, finished up some woodwork - a handmade gate at the top of our staircase, to keep my 20 month old rascal from falling down the stairs. So I thought I'd sprinkle this thread with something non-piano but vaguely related, for anyone interested - hope you don't mind:









Must say, I love woodwork, including the satisfaction of using the finished product. This is built from Meranti (Shorea, Lauan), by the way, using the harder, reddish pieces to receive the support screws, hinges, etc.
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/21/10 06:47 AM

Nice woodworking! That's an art, and I envy those who do it well. smile

--Loren
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/21/10 06:53 AM

"Today" has now become yesterday, but had I written this last night, I would have written about first tuning a private Steinway O that's had new hammers installed (on the original worn-knuckled/verdigris'd shanks!), installing a new bass string on a 90's Kimball console, and then three tunings at a local high/middle school. One was a pretty worn 70's era Hamilton, another a 90's Yamaha P22 with hammers beat to Hades and back (flattened and insanely bright, but they won't do anything about it), and a 3 year old Boston grand. The grand is not bad, but like others have mentioned, there is a degree of falseness in the treble and overall tone waver throughout. Some bass unisons out of phase.

Funny, I'm very used to impact tuning on verticals now and am spoiled at doing it without muscular strain. Problem is, after I do a few grands, I feel it!
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/21/10 07:39 AM

Mark:

The gate looks "grate". thumb

I recognized the luaun immediately. I've always called it Philippine mahogany. I am worried that there is no jamb, only a latch. If the latch gives way when slammed into by a running kid…. In any case, the gate should not be able to swing down stairs.

I knew of a seaman with the nickname of “Birdman” He had just gotten on a particular small ship (that I later sailed on) and while still tied to the dock, leaned against a portion of the handrail that was unlatched and could swing outward. His toes were against the “fishplate” and he could not spring out to land feet first. He broke both arms while falling head first, hence his nickname! They changed the section of handrail so it could only swing in.

My latest project is a cherry hope chest for my teenage daughter. I pick up the wood on Friday.
Posted by: Mark R.

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/21/10 11:03 AM

Thanks for the compliments.

Jeff, I really had a hard time deciding how to design and mount the gate. The problem is that the landing is extremely small, perhaps 2' by 5', and opens into four rooms! I had considered a design opening into the landing rather than the staircase, but hinging it on the left would have had the gate blocking access into the bathroom - because the bathroom door opens into the landing, as you can see on the extreme left of the last picture. And hinging it on the right would have had the gate protruding into the door frame of one of the bedrooms. And using a sliding design, the gate wouldn't have opened far enough.

Either and any way, it would have interfered with all those doors and the normal traffic over the landing as soon as it stood open.

I therefore grudgingly decided to have it opening into the stairway, even though this goes, pardon the pun, completely against my grain (having worked on some chemical plants and cement factory chimneys and being aware of safety).

However, the gate does, at least, have a jamb. You can see it in the last picture, below the block that carries the latch plate. Here's a close-up of the second-last picture:



At the top is the block carrying the latch plate, plugged to the wall. At the bottom right, below the philips/pozidriv screw, is the reddish jamb, also fixed to the wall. At the bottom center is the brownish top horizontal slat of the gate, which is about half as thick as the jamb is wide. On the bottom left is the reddish vertical slat carrying the latch. This vertical slat actually protrudes 3/8" from the gate chassis, fits underneath the lock block, and is pulled up tightly against the jamb by the latch.

Fact remains, a shock load would bend the L-shaped latch plate open, or simply tear its two screws from the wood block. So I know, it's not totally safe, but I reckon it's safer than no gate at all. Fortunately our little terror tends not to run into things, except if they're soft.

Wish I wasn't forced into this compromise, but there you have it. I may make a sturdier lock block, with a piece of angle iron in stead of that rather flimsy L-plate.
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/21/10 11:55 AM

Mark:

Hey, you did what you could with what you had. I understand the constraints you were faced with.

Another possibility would be to have the gate hinged also in the middle so that it could be stowed in the stairway, but when in place and locked would be self “jamming”. Extra wide stiles for the middle hinge would be needed for leverage. And additional latches for this hinge would be needed also.

It is probably all moot anyway. It won't be long before your 20 month old will solve the secret of the gate! I read somewhere that toddler proof (yeah, right…) locks need to have two things done simultaneously. My boy learned to just whack things with something heavy until they came apart!

The gate still looks nice, though.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/22/10 08:04 AM

Monday, a nice day, tuned 3. Ahhhh. A Yamaha P202, a Kawai RX-7, very nice piano, a Baldwin R.

Tuesday, tuned 5. A Kawai RX-2, another Kawai grand, I already forgot the model, a Baldwin studio, a Story & Clark studio, A Kawai UST-8.
Posted by: SM Boone

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/22/10 07:26 PM

Jerry needs lake time
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/22/10 07:28 PM

One consultation and 4 tunings. Nice full day. smile
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/22/10 08:21 PM

Today, tuned 5 again. A Yamaha GH1 and a Yamaha P202. A Schimmel grand, a Baldwin studio and a Baldwin Hamilton. grin
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/22/10 08:51 PM

Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT
Today, tuned 5 again. A Yamaha GH1 and a Yamaha P202. A Schimmel grand, a Baldwin studio and a Baldwin Hamilton. grin


Nice, Jerry! Nice pianos to work with. I remember one day around 15 years ago, I wound up with back to back Whitney spinets. And yes, both were 75-100 cents flat.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/22/10 09:28 PM

Yes, I do enjoy servicing those pianos alright.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/22/10 10:17 PM

I'm glad you are back in the trenches, Jerry! Loren - back to back Whitney's or their counterparts 100 cents flat is not unusual here!

First stop was a call back. Customer complaint: the piano echos after spring cord replacement. The room is very live, wood floor, no drapes, no rugs, no furniture. I clap and it echos. I check the dampers and action - no issues-alignment is good. I go though the "see, the dampers end in the treble, here" thing. She then says the tone is muffled. I tell her hammer filing, voicing and regulation is not part of butt spring cord replacement, therefore, it's not free. There would be a charge for that. I replaced the brakes, but that doesn't mean a tune up and new shocks are included for free... Not what she wanted to hear, but she couldn't show me any issue related to spring cords.

Second stop was the "my dog pees on the casters and pedals" piano. I tuned this Kimball Pre La Petit 3 weeks ago, and sold the extra work. I brought my saw horse, removed the lyre, removed the casters and ferrules, and action.

Put it all in the SUV, then did a 30 cent pitch raise on a piano around the corner for stop # 3.

Back to the shop by 1:30, I shined up the ferrules and pedals and sprayed them with clear coat. I'm replacing the casters with new. Then to the action, the jacks are all too far to the rear, and it's knuckle jack (spelling?) to the job. All the screws are loose, and it had hard to adjust square capstans. Yuk! I adjusted the jacks, rep lever, blow, let-off, drop and checking. By now, it's 6:30 pm. Time to print paperwork for tomorrow, and confirm appointments. The clear coat is dry, and I re-assemble the lyre.

Everything will go back on the piano Friday night at 5:30pm.

Hope the dog stays away.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/23/10 12:07 AM

Woke up at 4 am to get over to my mom's at 5 am to get her to the airport at 6 am. Had coffee, evaluated a piano at 7 am. Went for a bike ride with a bunch of my friends Dave's Wednesday Ride, hit a pine cone, crashed, got some road rash, got back on the bike with a little help from my friends, continued on. Went home for an attempt at napping, failed. Tuned a u-1 yamaha, replaced one keytop (all I had available) on a piano the little 3 year old boy had used as a xylophone--with a hammer as a mallet! Going back in a couple of weeks after the keytops get here. Went to back to school night for my 10 year old where I saw lots of my clients!

I'm now officially tired. Tomorrow will be 4 pianos, two of them unknowns.
Posted by: Mark R.

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/23/10 02:38 AM

Originally Posted By: Dave Stahl
Went for a bike ride with a bunch of my friends Dave's Wednesday Ride


Wow, Dave, the scenery looks breathtaking - just a little envious here!
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/23/10 03:39 AM

Nice pic, Dave. It looks like a polarizer was used on the lens. I'm glad you and the bike were still operational - darn pine cone! Love the disclaimer! I suppose it's a fact of life these days! Darn pine cones!
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/23/10 08:08 AM

Beautiful pic Dave! Last year (old age? Clumsy is more like it) I stepped on an acorn, thought I sprained my ankle. No such luck. I fractured my darn foot! This year, a hernia. Next year I'm hiding out!
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/23/10 09:25 AM

Used some brand new yellow rubber mutes for the first time. It was kind of like putting on brand new, never washed socks. Ahhhh
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/23/10 12:08 PM

Originally Posted By: Mark R.
Originally Posted By: Dave Stahl
Went for a bike ride with a bunch of my friends Dave's Wednesday Ride


Wow, Dave, the scenery looks breathtaking - just a little envious here!


Disclaimer on the picture as well...the pic was from a recent vacation I took to Crater Lake National Park, which is truly one of the most spectacular places on the planet--but not where I was riding when attacked by the evil pine cone. I posted this pic on my ride website to entice people to come out. It isn't in my 'hood, though the scenery in the SF Bay Area isn't so bad either, once you get into the hills and out of town!

Bob,

It wasn't taken with a filter, it's just that the atmosphere at 6,500 feet in Oregon is quite clean (and thinner than sea level, I might ad). It actually looks that way.
Posted by: Mark R.

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/23/10 05:41 PM

Originally Posted By: Dave Stahl
Disclaimer on the picture as well...the pic was from a recent vacation I took to Crater Lake National Park, which is truly one of the most spectacular places on the planet--but not where I was riding when attacked by the evil pine cone. I posted this pic on my ride website to entice people to come out.


SEE?! There we have it: proof that piano tuners are evil, conniving b@st@rds, luring the unsuspecting public into death traps... laugh smirk
Posted by: SM Boone

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/23/10 06:58 PM

OK, TODAY, love this topic!!!!......so this afternoon I did what I wanted to do, which was a soak in the hot tub in back yard rereading Atlas Shrugged> I figure I'm 1/3 way through, and should finish it it 2 years since I only read for pleasure in summer.
Also returned a phone call , that I thought might be a "price shopper", but she knew my first name, so it had to be a referral. Usually for "price shoppers" I don't even bother to return phone call.....
40 years ago when I was young, I wanted to make every piano that came along just the BEST it could be. Through the years I have learned that the effort does not pay on some venues, so TODAY I pick and choose what I do. TODAY was hot tub.. SM
Posted by: RPD

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/23/10 08:13 PM

Tuned a Baldwin Acro, a K.Kawai grand, and a Wurlitzer spinet...then spent the rest of the afternoon on one of the final trips to a neighboring city to install rebuilt player parts into an old upright...came home, stuffed my pie hole, and I'm off for the evening.

Tomorrow and Sat are shop days...easy schedule...

RPD
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/23/10 10:09 PM

I think I set some kind of personal record...3 pianos where the majority of the instrument was over 100 cents flat!

First was a Russian piano that came over with the clients' parents in a crate that was tipped upside down by the customs guys in Russia back in 1989 or so (which was also the last time it was tuned). Repositioned many dampers that were tweaked, reglued a jack flange, repositioned many hammers to actually hit the correct strings, only broke one string--and remembered why I carry universals around.

Second was an old Andrew Kohler bungalow studio that I did for half price because the lady was unemployed, and the son is REALLY into the piano. I bathed the hammer flanges in Protek to eliminate sluggishness (and it worked this time), repositioned the flattened, grooved hammers, gave it a huge pitch raise and counted my blessings that the strings held up.

Tuned a Boston 178 grand uneventfully...yayyyyy!

Third huge PR was a Yammy console with broken spring cords broken or breaking.

Home at last. At least I was well compensated for the 1300 + strings I tuned.
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/23/10 10:27 PM

6 today. Story & Clark console, Yamaha spinet that last year did a major pitch raise. When called guy says "we got a clunker note since u left!" Ok says I we shall surely slay that beast. Get there old geezer bangs on C8 and say, "Sounds like yer hittin wood!" Hmmmm, perhaps we need to get hearing aid adjusted....

Aeolian grand I rebuilt about 15 years ago, old Vose upright, Kawai studio and another upright in a one room church.
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/23/10 11:01 PM

Dave, I have iffy results with Protek too. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I don't like the Garfield center pin treatment because of the smell. I remember the old American Piano Supply used to sell a center treatment that worked really good. Remember the silicone stuff Wurlitzer used to sell?

Ah yes, the breaking cord springs. Been a while since I replaced a set. I was thinking next time I might just install new flanges instead of replacing the broken cord.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/23/10 11:13 PM

Today turned from a 5 or 6 day into a 3 day. First one was a concert tuning on a Steinway B for my college but, in a different location. Then, off to the college for some dorm tunings...supposedly... Man, it was so fricken hot in there, 80-83 degree's I could hardly stand it! 65-70 % + RH. It didn't take long before I was dripping with sweat and eventually, whipped. Plus, I had to walk all over the place trying to find pianos that weren't where they belonged. Every year, it's the same thing, they get moved somewhere and nobody knows where they went. One year, one of the pianos vanished for a few years then all of a sudden, there it was. Still, nobody knew where it went or where it came from or how it got there. Go figure. So anyway, I got over heated today and only tuned 2 dorm pianos and said screw it. I'll send in my son next week to finish them.

Then from 3 to 4:15 PM I got a private tour of the revamped soon to be opened up Covenant Fine Arts Center. Man was that ever fun! I had to wear a hard hat to get in. I said, well, that fits my hard head perfectly! grin
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/24/10 08:02 AM

I forgot to say something. You know how I'm an advocate of hiring someone to make calls to your regular clients that need or want to be called. You know, your churches that tune on certain dates, homes etc. We were caught up for a bit so my secretary hasn't come for about 3 or 4 weeks now. She worked 2 nights this week, Tuesday and Thursday from 6:30 to 9:00 PM both night, 5 hours. She scheduled 37 tuning appointments. Well worth the time to have her make calls. This eliminated the last minute emergency phone calling from many of my churches and other clients that might otherwise have taken place plus, they love being called. I like it because it is easier actually. How many times don't we have someone call us last minute otherwise? Several times a week? Not any more! Try it, you might like it. I paid her $97. She made me over $5,180 worth of tuning work. thumb Maybe that's why I keep winding up tuning 5 and 6 a day? My own darn fault! cry
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/24/10 08:29 AM

thumb nice job jer
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/24/10 08:40 AM

Thanks Les!
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/24/10 09:35 AM

I had a piano with 16 sticky jacks the other day. I gave the customer 2 choices - taking the action to the shop and re-pinning all the sticky parts I could find for $xxx, or lubing them for $xx. I made it clear the lube might not be permanent, in fact it probably wouldn't be permanent, and put that in writing on the invoice. In my experience, re-pinning tight joints gives the best long term result - but in many cases the customer does not want to pay for that - so lubing we go!
Posted by: SM Boone

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/24/10 07:31 PM

Went to college and corrected yet another damper problem on our D, (plus tuned a Yamaha upright, after doing major house hold stuff... all plastic is AMEN Goodbye, out -a -here. Looking forward to my continued stink bug hunt tomorrow with vacuum, and some nice spa time, then have to do concert tuning on Sunday.
Posted by: Daryl Durand

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/25/10 01:20 PM

Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT
they love being called. I like it because it is easier actually.


Some of my customers really like the phone calls. The ones that don't I just take em off my list.
Posted by: SM Boone

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/25/10 09:09 PM

We have major "stink bug" invasion in VA. Yesterday there was one on the AC, and he went inside the AC to warn his lady friend that danger was present. Scooped both into a cup of water,. they clung together furiously, before the potty dump and flush. Titanic, definitely. And focusing on cleaning watching out for critters. Hot tub this afternoon. :0.
Today, another stinker into potty and his mate is still on AC... will get her later. Feels like Noah's Ark.
Have to do concert tuning tomorrow, should be ok. Busy next week
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/26/10 01:13 PM

We have love bugs here. They arrive for two weeks in early summer, and two weeks in early fall. They splat on the front of your car as we drive. They can damage the paint if left on too long, so I wash the front of my car each night.

Sat was a five hour concert prep on a D, then tuned a D, two B's, and an L, then attended the concert which ended about 11pm. The artist asked for a granola bar at intermission. I don't know what was in it, but he he had energy to burn! We certainly got our money's worth!
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/26/10 09:43 PM

I do the same thing Daryl, remove them from my list. All it will take is one time of being rude or sarcastic to myself or to my secretary and they get taken off the call back list.

I went up north this weekend to play at the cottage. The weather SUCKED big time. It was very windy, very rainy and very very cold but, we had a great time regardless!
Posted by: SM Boone

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/26/10 10:26 PM

HOOO, I have an "X" list, that I maintain and update, carry forward... My worst case scenario was a drive of @ hour through torrential down pours and winds on a REALLY bad interstate, and the lady did a "no show", (tho her car was parked in drive_), hmmm, so since I had another scheduled apptmt later, I had to just hang around.... visit various antique malls... have lunch... do said later apptmt. UNBELIEVABLE< the no show lady called later that evening and requested a reschedule.

I said, " I don't think so".
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/27/10 08:25 AM

Did what I expect will be a good thing for my 4 year old: I stored the TV in the attic. He attacked me literally tooth and nail. After he got over loosing the fight, we spent a very nice day being very close to each other.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/28/10 08:03 AM

I did what my boss Jerry told me to do yesterday,, I always do, I'm an excellent employee. I tuned 1 Story & Clark console in a home, the older kind that likes to break wires but, none broke for me. Then, I went to a church and tuned a Sohmer grand, a Yamaha C-7 and a Baldwin studio. Then, I did a bunch of office work and billings.
Posted by: James Carney

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/28/10 11:55 AM

Yesterday morning I tuned a freshly uncrated Blüthner Model A vertical (it arrived in perfect regulation and sounds amazing) and then it was a pitchraise fest out in the field: A 1919 Baldwin grand that I had to boost about 38-60 cents and a 1973 5'8" Kimball grand that was flat by 80-105 cents from bass to treble! It actually sounded very nice when I was done. (I have a 1957 version of the same grand in my clientele, and I really like this particular Kimball design. The action feels great and the sound is big.) After removing the required 12 screws to pull the action, I also adjusted two backchecks on the Kimball that were too close to (and catching) their hammer tails, sometimes preventing the key from moving at all; both notes would only work sporadically - and the client said that those two notes had been problematic since her parents purchased the piano new! Simply amazing...

Then I taught a new student who wants to learn Brubeck's "Blue Rondo a la Turk" - it's a great composition that I had never played before, which is yet another reason why I love teaching.

Nice day, and no broken strings!
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/30/10 10:04 PM

One customer had a tired Brambach grand and a yappy, tiny, cute hot dog. As I was leaving, I found out why the dog was so crabby. Out came three young cats, about the same size as the dog. The cats began to annoy the dog, and he was unfortunately, outnumbered....poor thing.
Posted by: SM Boone

Re: So, what did you do today? - 09/30/10 11:03 PM

HOOO Bob, I personally HATE Brambachs, but I love kitties & dogs. I actually treated myself to a day off today. YEA! Much needed break. From here to forever, I am slammed.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/01/10 06:04 PM

Did 4 again. Schimmel grand, Cable nelson spinet, 45 +¢ sharp, Everett studio, floated the last two up to 442. Then, tuned a Yamaha C-7 today for a private party jazz concert, invites only.
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/01/10 06:19 PM

Scheduled a light day today after a particularly grueling week. First tuned a 1960's vintage Wurlitzer console. Raised it 58 cents. Then drove a drive to a gorgeous Steinway B that needed new humidifier pads, Pad Treatment, and some light tuning and voicing. After that, tuned a six year old Yamaha P22. All in all a nicely paced and relaxing day. smile
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/02/10 10:53 PM

An arena concert today, for a geriatric rock band — talkin' 'bout my generation, alas. There was an amazing array of guitars at the concert. I was also amused when after I started tuning in the middle of the arena, and then all of a sudden, the stage moved to one end with me and the piano on it. I had some time between the first tuning and the post-soundcheck touch-up, so I called my wife and we went to the nearby slough and wetlands mitigation area. We saw a bunch of rays flapping around in the water, which was really quite amazing to see. Saw a Zeppelin, but we had seen that before, and no, the band was not the Led version.
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/04/10 10:01 AM


A long posting........Just returned from a week on the Gulf Islands which has become a regular tuning/vacation trip now.

Tuned a couple of Yamaha P2’s..... older ones in the 500,000 series..... A vintage C. Bechstein 6 footer with new string and Renner retrofit on the action rack..... The usual; hammers, shanks, flanges, knuckles.....nice piano....

An older Yamaha U1...then a small Challen grand.....I mean real small...less than 5ft ...tough piano to set the temperament......

Then onto a really nice Kawai product; didn’t grab the model number but 48 inches...about ten years old looked like Kawai’s answer to the Yamaha U1...... a good upright.

A couple of old Canadian uprights; a Bell from the Lesage Co. And a Gourlay, Winters and Leeming tall upright.

Came across an old American upright I have not seen before; this was a 57 inch Farrand, made in Michigan. You know you have a tall piano when you have to get up on your toes to tune middle C....copper bass from the 60’s, the rest was original...great sound in that one......

Then onto the local hotel where I found an older Geo Steck, also a very small grand; tapered round leg with no castor, and a really odd music desk attached to the top flap but the flap is not connected to the top board...?? No hinge there and not even any holes for a hinge......

Came across a Förster 50 inch upright; Czech Republic I believe, agraffes in the bass and treble...looked like a Schwander action or Schwander type...

There was also an English piano to look at; a Barnes and company with the usual obsolete wire sticker action...couldn’t do much there.............


Interesting thing about all of these pianos? Every single one had the identical fundamental error in the temperament. The G below middle C was set sharp of C instead of flat. Then the fifths were set too close, many of them beat less to try to even up the ending F-F octave. It was interesting to observe the very same mistake and then twisting of the temperament. The error was exactly consistent on each instrument.

I also managed to connect with forum member Dara and had my first chance to put a tuning hammer on a Brodman 187(I think the model is)

As this is only the second tuning for this one in 5 months; too early to tell about the tone; the scaling is good and the temperament set easily and quickly; good sound from the bass section, duplex in the treble, nice plate colouring....didn’t pull the action to have a look but those adjustments will come as Dara mentioned some of the hammers are beginning to show alignment variance.

I received an invitation to dine at Dara’s place and I was served a fresh tomato/cucumber salad from his large veggie garden and then a wonderful vegetarian pasta dish he made. Pumpkin pie for dessert.....I think I might have to tune that one more often in the future.....thanks for the hospitality Dara...
Posted by: R Hufford, RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/04/10 03:16 PM

Friday, I left the shop, replaced a broken string on a G3 and subsequently tuned it. From this appointment I when went to a Fine Arts Academy and tuned a Baldwin concert grand piano, then to a local concert hall and tuned a Steinway D which I keep up for them. Afterwards, in a great hurry through traffic to a local university, there to tune on the stage in their recital hall another Steinway D. Finally, a tuning of another Steinway D in the auditorium of the Fort Worth Museum of Modern Art. That is four concert grand in a row, all at differing venues. The only unusual aspect was the fact that they were all scheduled in a row.
Robin Hufford, RPT
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/04/10 07:32 PM

Four today. A Young Chang G-185 at a high school, a Steinway M in a private residence, an Acrosonic at a bed & breakfast, and a Steinway D at a college. Nicely paced day. smile
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/04/10 07:49 PM

7 again today. However, I am taking tomorrow OFF. HA HA!

1. Tuned a Kawai KG1D.
2. Tuned a Kawai GE1A
3. Tuned a rebuilt Steinway M. Tunes crummy.
4. Tuned a Kawai GE-1.
5. Tuned a Yamaha C-7.
6. Tuned a Baldwin grand (short memory, already forgot model #)
7. Tuned a crappy little Stark console. grin
Posted by: SM Boone

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/04/10 09:07 PM

did an evaluation on a 1948 L Steinway, Walnut, perfect condition. Tuned it also... of course. Had art meeting and discussed using old piano wire to make spider webs, butterflies, for a neighborhood ecologically sustainable environment.
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/05/10 08:20 PM

1. Steinway D
2. Story & Clark console
3. Lester spinet. We'll call it "tuned."
4. Yamaha console (70's vintage)
5. Unknown grand (bad rebuilding job, plate and case refinished)
6. Pulled a 2-week old bass string up to pitch.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/05/10 10:40 PM

Nothing!
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/05/10 10:54 PM

Tuned a 20s Steinway L, bid on a hammer replacement job on it
Replaced 8 key tops on a U-1 Yamaha that had been drumsticked by a two year old.
Pitch raised and tuned a Seiler 208 (6' 10 or so), repinned a hammer center, lubricated clicky repetition springs with MPL 1
Tuned a Schulze-Pollman 125 upright.

It was a good piano day overall.
Posted by: RPD

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/05/10 11:23 PM

Returned my rental car to Enterprise, and walked next door and wrote out a $1350 check to retrieve my 2005 F150...repairs it needed to the front end bearings, brakes, et al. But, at 140K miles, she's a beaut' and I'll drive her till 300K probably...

Then, 5 appts...tuned a Grinnell grand, stopped in to pull bolts up on a structural repair to a Wurlitzer upright that has (had) a seperated PB, tuned a Yamaha G series grand, did a service call to a police captain who purchased a Baldwin upright for $100, that needed $450 in work...he said yes...then my last appt in Bangor MI to repair and install moisture control into a Estey spinet.

Last thing was a phone call to assist a long time customer with selling her G series Yamaha grand to another client looking for a piano...I do this free of commission as a "put people together" referral...works out well for everybody.

Then, because Jerry Groot takes so many days off, I was able to drive up to Grand Rapids and sneak into his house and take that .06 cents he leaves in his top drawer. That'll teach him.

RPD
Posted by: Sparky McBiff

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/05/10 11:52 PM

Originally Posted By: RPD

Then, because Jerry Groot takes so many days off, I was able to drive up to Grand Rapids and sneak into his house and take that .06 cents he leaves in his top drawer. That'll teach him.

RPD


Ah ha ha!
Nice one.
Posted by: Mark R.

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/06/10 07:47 AM

(Yesterday, actually)

Received my first ever tuning lever (Schaff extension lever) with #1, #2 and narrow-walled tip, together with a small assortment of regulating tools, voicing tool, paper punchings and some materials to repair catchers on my old Zimmermann, silk cord, and a few other smalls. Christmas came early this year. (And my wallet is still bruised.)

My thanks to various techs, especially Chuck Behm, for answering all sorts of questions.

Then tested the new hammer, and found to my dismay that most pins in the mid-range and bass on my recently purchased Ibach are quite loose. (I estimate perhaps 10-20 Nm tuning down, perhaps 30 Nm tuning up.) Treble section is better.

Also noticed that the end of the tuning tip facing the string coils has some play, more so on the #2 than the #1 (pins are 0.274", i.e. a smallish #1), so that the other end of the hammer can actually be wiggled towards and away from the pinblock by about 1/8". I hope that this is normal, and not some funny pin shape - or a defect in the tuning tips.

Now considering my options...
Try to raise from -70 to -40 cents and see whether the pins hold, if yes, raise further
If no, wick extra-thin CA between pins and bushings, or
Pound pins deeper, or
Remove pins, swab holes with regular CA, re-insert pins, or
Insert sandpaper shims, or
Re-pin with #2

Not sure whether (and how) one can determine the basic integrity of the pinblock (cracks vs. simply having lost its grip with age), to decide on one or more of the above procedures.

So, a bit disappointed and sad, but wanting to solve the problem!

Any advice welcome... (Tell me if you think I should open a separate thread for this.)
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/06/10 07:57 AM

Mark:

I always feel like the kid singing "The Wells Fargo Wagon" in the musical "Music Man" when I am expecting a package. smile

Yeah, a new Topic would be good, but here's a short answer. If the pins hold the torque that the string is exerting on them, then there is no reason to mess with them for reasons of stability, but there may be for tunability.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/06/10 08:27 AM

AHA! Caughtcha! SOOOO, that's where that .06¢ went! I was saving that for my next piece of candy! With all of my days off, I need to save up for these things now don'tchaknno? Hmmm, you know? I didn't even know that I had a "sixth ¢-th." ha
Posted by: Mark R.

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/06/10 09:11 AM

Jeff,

Didn't know that song... Just looked up the lyrics, and saw that there might even a double boiler on the wagon. wink

Right-o, will open a new thread soon. And yes, tunability was difficult with those pins. Just the slightest nudge down, and "it goes", even though all of them are holding current pitch - at least for a night. The tighter pins on my Zimmermann were much easier to "hone in".
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/06/10 09:36 AM

Mark:

You haven't ever seen "The Music Man"???? Say it isn't so!
Posted by: Mark R.

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/06/10 10:52 AM

Jeff, how can I say it isn't so, if it is? Yes, I'm an illiterate barbarian from the Dark Continent. laugh

(And my German friends are just as surprised when they read that I haven't done some of their stuff either, but somehow still manage to live. grin )

But hey, cut me some slack, at least I own two pianos (should count for something in here!), one with a decrepit action, bad strings, cheap hammers but a good pinblock, the other with a good action but an aged cabinet and loose pins - and I've just spent four tuning fees in importing tools from the U.S. of A., only to discover that the piano I wanted to keep may be untunable.

Now, do tell me why I should see The Music Man.
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/06/10 12:15 PM

Originally Posted By: Mark R.
.....

Now, do tell me why I should see The Music Man.


For your own edification. Like any good drama, the last scene answers an eternal question that the very entertaining plot only vaguely explores. I won't even mention the question. I do not what to take away any of the enjoyment when you get to watch it. I am sure it is available for rental.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/06/10 01:30 PM

Tuned 4 this morning. Started at 9:30, was done by 11:30. smile Tuned a Steinway M, a Steinway console, man, I hate tuning those Steinway verticals, jumpy, screwed up tuning pins, a Kimblah grand, a Weber console. Replaced a broken plastic "thingy" on the bottom of the sustaining pedal. The plastic piece that goes inside of the pedal rod. Afternoon off. Does this mean that Rick is going to steal from me again? frown
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/06/10 01:49 PM

Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT
.....

Does this mean that Rick is going to steal from me again? frown


There's worse than stealing. What if he said that he stuck something in your toilet and returned it to its normal place, but won't tell you what it was? (Like the toilet brush...)
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/06/10 02:11 PM

Rather have him steal .06 ¢.
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/06/10 05:27 PM

Fairly easy day. Started with an old Henry F. Miller spinet. This is one of those ones with the key buttons on the bottom of the keys resting on the balance rail. Four of them separated from the keys and had to be reguled. Hammers reshaped and aligned with strings, then raised 60 cents to 440. After that, a Pramenger grand on a school stage for a choir concert. Would have had two more, but the last customer was a no show.

And Jerry, boy do I hear you about those Steinway verticals. The pins and string rendering are just horrendous.
Posted by: Mark R.

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/06/10 06:51 PM

OK, Jeff, although I haven't seen this movie in any of my usual video rental haunts, I'll keep an eye out for it.
Posted by: RPD

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/06/10 09:16 PM

Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT
Rather have him steal .06 ¢.


Ha! Interesting idea Jeff...I wish I'd thought of it! (...turns out that piano techs might not be good enemies to have crazy !)

Jerry, you're safe. Its nearing Halloween and I'm missing my chicken suit...I don't suspect you (yet) but we're on the lookout!

As for me today, six appts but only four tunings...I did an estimate for a grand regulation at a golf course, and my netbook cord (8 months old) broke and waddya know, nobody in kalamazoo has one...not Best Buy where I purchased it, nobody! With the computer down, I was left to tune BY EAR all day. Did you guys know that a person can actually tune a whole piano entirely by ear?! wink

My last tuning was a C7 in prep for a concert and with a 25-35 cent pitch adjustment...Boy did I miss my Tune Lab!!...but with a bit of old school stripping the scale and lots of aural tests that I use anyway all the time, we got through it.

Funny thing, tuning by ear is faster for me...it always has been...and its satisfying in a way that defies logic...

All in all, a good day.

RPD
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/06/10 09:24 PM

I have to admit. When I saw RPD.... I got a big smile on my face because I knew I would be in for another giggle. Thanks!

Glad to hear your day went so smoothly Rick! I enjoy tuning by ear too and yes, it is MUCH faster than using a machine any day in my opinion. I still enjoy using RCT though if nothing more than for the pitch raising feature.
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/07/10 07:03 AM

Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT
Rather have him steal .06 ¢.


I'd rather have him steal even $600, er, make that $60...

(Actually I heard that this toilet brush trick was part of a Seinfeld episode.)
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/07/10 10:07 AM

Yesterday, after tuning a Schimmel 6'6" grand, I moved on to a real piano, a Currier tiki I did something I virtually never do: tuned the entire thing by machine from note one up through note 88. Nothing about this job was satisfying, other than payment.

I gave the lady--who had a late model Mercedes sedan parked next to her Lexus in the driveway of her expensive home-- the required lecture about her daughter's musical education, blah, blah, blah. Some of it may have sunk in. I hope so, anyway.

While tuning, I saw that the scale was designed by Charles Frederick Stein. Unfortunately, no piano I've ever seen with his name on it will go into the musical instrument hall of fame. However, it did give me reason to Google his name, and this LIST OF PIANO FACTOIDS popped up.
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/07/10 05:20 PM

First was a 60's vintage Baldwin Hamilton in a middle school, then a 3-year old Boston studio piano at a high school. After that, a 20-year old Yamaha grand in another high school followed by a private tuning of a new Baldwin Hamilton. Nice day; not too busy, not too slow. smile
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/07/10 05:43 PM

3 today out of 5. Arrived to the organization to find out 2 pianos had been given away. Oh well. I'd rather tune 3 a day anyway. Tuned a Steinway M, a really nice, pretty green one! Puke Green! Tuned an OLD Weber grand with loose tuning pins, used a bit of CA... Tuned a Baldwin spinet.

Great day really.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/07/10 11:36 PM

Bohemia upright, pitch raise, teflon powder on damper lever felts (creak, creak)
Seiler 6' grand, like clockwork every 6 months. A mansion on the hill, piano just about perfect, touched up the voicing. $20.00 tip. Don't say all wealthy folks don't tip!
Wurtilizer console, untuned for 12 years. PR, tune, adjust pedals, clean groty keys.
Yamaha U-1, tuned
4 year old Steinway B, pitch adjust from 10 c flat or so, tuned, adjusted pedals.
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/08/10 02:47 PM


Tuned a Yamaha T121 today; haven’t had the chance to put a hammer on one of these yet. Not a bad instrument. Then a small Mason & Risch vintage grand called a Steinbach.

Now back to the shop to start another grand project that just sold.

Happy Thanksgiving weekend to all Canadian technicians out there!
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/08/10 05:31 PM

Put on 104 miles today. Dropped by my cousins company on the way to my first job to pick a hard drive for a friend then, off to tune 2 pianos. A Yamaha G3 and an older Grinell upright that my dad started servicing back in 1955, 1 year before I was even born. From there, drove the opposite direction just to visit my chiropractor. Then, drove to my next job, another church to tune 2 pianos. An Everett studio and an Everett spinet. After that, drove out of my way to pick a replacement chute for my John Deere lawn tractor. My old one broke. There went $90.00. All in all, another nice day.
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/08/10 06:44 PM

Started off with a 1967 Kohler & Campbell spinet that hadn't been tuned for a while; raised it 50 cents. From there, off to 2 at a church. First was a Weber console that had incredibly hard hammers. Had to lower that around 10 cents. Second one was an old Gulbransen spinet that had to come up around 30 cents.

Nice, easy day with good driving weather. smile
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/09/10 01:29 PM


I am in the shop prepping/cleaning up a restoration of a Thomson & Sons upright for mover’s pick-up this morning.

BTW this October has 5 Fridays, 5 Saturdays and 5 Sundays, all in 1 month. It happens once in 823 years.

The joy I get from useless information……..
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/09/10 02:25 PM

Sorry Dan but, that isn't true. You got duped. Join the crowd. Happens to all of us at one time or another.

The same 5 day weeks were also in October of 2004, October 1999, October, 1993 Etc.

http://www.geekosystem.com/5-fridays-saturdays-sundays-not-823-years/

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/trivia/fivedays.asp


Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/09/10 02:45 PM


Thanks Jerry,
This stuff comes across my desk and some I have time to check and some I don't. Thanks for the clarification......I thought it was a bit wild that one.....posted it anyways.
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/09/10 02:55 PM

I had a CFIIIS yesterday, and I should have it again this evening.
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/09/10 03:01 PM

Originally Posted By: BDB
I had a CFIIIS yesterday, and I should have it again this evening.


I'm not feeling well either. Hope you get rid of the CFIIIS
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/09/10 03:09 PM

Well, it might be nice to get a CFX, but I am still waiting. I was very impatient to get rid of the last CFIII.
Posted by: Supply

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/10/10 01:26 AM

Was called out to tune a Steinway upright... I was holding my breath upon entering the house... It turns out it was a beautiful 1980s Hamburg V, 130 cm (52"), amazing clear tone. Fantastic one piece ivory keytops. 73 dampers and probably could have used a few more, the treble sustain was so long.

Makes me wish that they would learn to build uprights in New York....
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/10/10 02:04 AM

No CFIIIS tonight. It would not fit up the stairs. House Steinway M, instead.
Posted by: Mark R.

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/10/10 11:23 AM

Yesterday, I reinforced some bridge pins on my Ibach upright with epoxy putty. The pins had been inserted shoddily and bent into position (to get more side-bearing) after being inserted into the bridge, leaving elongated holes on the side opposite the string, or sometimes on the notched part. Filled these with epoxy, being careful not to get any on the strings, then carefully painted the repairs on the bridge cap black - have some pictures, if anyone is interested. All of this in preparation for a pitch raise.

Today, finished my self-made glue pot and did a few tests with hide glue to get the feel for temperature, dilution, wood vs. cloth, etc.
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/11/10 10:20 PM

Did a small Bergmann grand in a church first. This thing had out of phase everything. From there, a 1950's Acrosonic that had to be raised 100 cents. After that, a gorgeous old Steinway ex-reproducer.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/12/10 08:11 AM

Did 4 homes yesterday. Sort of... Tuned A Baldwin console that tuned very nicely. I tuned it almost 2 years ago come January. It was a bit sharp, left it there, it'll drop in a month or two. Tuned a Gulbransen console built in 1950. Very nice tuning piano with a great sound yet for an old booger. But then, we'd been tuning it since it was new too so I guess that helped. Tuned a Yamaha console built in Japan many years ago, also tuned almost 2 years ago come January. In great shape yet. Had done some action work on it 20 years ago, hammer carding, regulation etc. Still doing good. Looked at an older Cable Nelson spinet made by Everett. Not tuned in 31 years. 1/2 tone flat, great tone yet, considering. Gave an estimate. Hammers were bobbling so badly I didn't even want to try and tune it not to mention, many of them were sticking so, I refused to tune it until the work was done first. She wants it done so, I sub contracted that one out because I can't touch it until at least spring.
Posted by: curry

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/12/10 11:46 AM

Things are very slow in New Jersey as of late. But today my piano tech friend John and I are going up to Princeton to move move his clients grand about 18 inches from a window. It's on hardwood flooring, so I'm bringing three ez-slides to help. Of course we first have to lift the piano and get the caster cups out from under each leg while replacing with an ez-slide. After this first hectic phase, I'm sure we'll need a short rest. Then on to sliding the piano away from the window.
After all this sweaty labor I'm sure we'll stop off for some Dunkin' Doughnuts and green tea.
Thursday will be a lot worse, lol. I'm scheduled to tune a 1940's Janssen spinet which according to the owner hasn't been tuned in 25 years. So I'm certain to be looking at two pitch raises and one fine tuning in order to tame this under- maintained little jem.
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/12/10 06:20 PM

Three Baldwins and a Whitney.
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/12/10 08:54 PM

7, Kawai KG 6ft, nice, Baldwin L, Young Chang PG-150, Kawai RX-2, 2 Kawai studios, Sojin 6', and Cable spinet 1/2 step plus flat. All but the Cable long term customers.
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/13/10 08:19 AM

Tuned a Pearl River UP108, a six month tuning. At most it was 1.5 cent off. But F6 was slow to return, so I pulled the key and the front rail pin was turned almost 45 degrees, I believe this piano is no more then 2 years old. Is it common practice to adjust side to side key movement this way from the factory?
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/13/10 10:29 PM

Five total. A Yamaha P-22, an early 70's Yamaha console, a Fisher console, Steinway B and a Steinway D.
Posted by: RonTuner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/13/10 10:58 PM

Pre-tuned a Yamaha C6 in the band room today and the Steinway D in the Chapel at the university. The C6 is getting moved into the chapel tonight to be used for concerto competitions tomorrow. Early morning tuning to get the C6 to match the Steinway D. I wanted to make sure they were both as close to 440 as possible before the morning fun!

Ron Koval
chicagoland
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/14/10 03:39 PM

Originally Posted By: Supply

Makes me wish that they would learn to build uprights in New York....


Within 5 years all Steinway production will be from Hamburg.

There will be a skeleton crew left on 57th for local representation.

A bold prediction I am hoping to be wrong about.
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/14/10 05:58 PM

Old Melville Clark spinet (built on a Wurlitzer back). Clean rust from tuning pins/coils, reshape hammers, race 80 cents. After that, a 90's vintage Belarus console.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/14/10 08:02 PM

Tuned a Yamaha grand, an Everett studio, a Yamaha P22 and a Baldwin studio. Nice day.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/14/10 10:02 PM

First day back from vacation I jumped right in with a K&C grand in a church, then to a school for a capstan grommet job on a Grand Spinet. Everything was so rusty, the Kimball square metal nuts broke apart instead of unscrewing. Once replaced, I re-layed the keys, and did a reg. Then I fixed the ribs that were separating from the soundboard. Almost 8 hours on that one - whew. Then... tuned a Hamburg D at an artist's home. He's in Austria concertizing this week. Long day, but most satisfying.
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/14/10 11:17 PM

Did a Acro, Baldwin Hamilton grand I rebuilt 20 years ago, Charles Walter studio, old Gulbransen grand, and Kawai console.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/14/10 11:23 PM

A Niemeyer upright made by Dongbei??? or some other massive piano combine in China, a Bohemia 123 upright 25-30 c flat needed a PR and a tuning, a Kawai RX-1 Blak--really sweet little grand--needed a PR, some repetition spring softening in the bass, and a small amount of voicing, a Diapason 108 (like a Kawai CX4 or CX5) that was at pitch. Drove 110 miles, too, but no traffic jams! Listened to the sports talk folks on the radio blather on for most of the day about the SF Giants...go Giants, stomp the Phillies!
Posted by: pianovoce

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/14/10 11:24 PM

Evaluated a late 70s Everett upright and told the purchaser to go for it!
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/15/10 02:21 AM

A U1 and a CFIIIs, for two shows. Two strings broke on the concert grand. It is funny how it is not the string you are tuning that breaks. The first time, it was the one I just finished tuning, and the second time it was the one that I had not started tuning.
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/15/10 07:27 AM

Originally Posted By: BDB
A U1 and a CFIIIs, for two shows. Two strings broke on the concert grand. It is funny how it is not the string you are tuning that breaks. The first time, it was the one I just finished tuning, and the second time it was the one that I had not started tuning.


Wow, never had that happen! It's rare that I break one, but it's always the one I'm working on.
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/15/10 11:14 AM

I have decided it is my job to break the strings before the concert, rather than to have them break during it. The only pianist who has been able to break a string has been Cecil Taylor, which was irritating, as he had been practicing on that piano all week. Of course, being Cecil, nobody noticed, not the audience, not him.

These are stress breaks. The string breaks at the capo bar, rather than rust breaks, where they break at the tuning pin.
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/15/10 01:30 PM


I just had a broken string in the center section of an upright that I re-strung a few years back. The brand new Röslau wire broke at the pin, did not have any rust visible, and was most likely damaged or faulty wire in some way. Soon as I moved the hammer it snapped.....

Had to be the B beside middle C too.....you know behind the bass strings and all of that.....
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/15/10 05:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Silverwood Pianos

. The brand new Röslau wire broke at the pin, did not have any rust visible, and was most likely damaged or faulty wire in some way. Soon as I moved the hammer it snapped.....


Coil Setter break - Tapped the becket with the coil setter while stringing? Or, sometimes a coil of wire will be brittle - if that's the case, adjacent coils will snap in the future.

I remember getting a couple of bass strings with some brittle core wire once - It snapped when I formed a becket.
Posted by: Bojan Babic

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/15/10 05:56 PM

Today I have finished floor in my workshop. Tomorrow morning, I start bringing my machines, tools, furniture, and other equipment inside. That is going to be my very first real workshop, after more than 10 years of doing piano restoration jobs in my mother^s garage. I feel good.
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/15/10 06:32 PM

Two 1950's vintage Baldwin Acrosonic spinets, a Yamaha grand, and an old Steinway M.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/15/10 09:46 PM

Tuned a Kawai vertical CX-21D, tuned a Kawai grand -KG-2D, raised pitch 1/4 + tone. Removed the action, cleaned out the inside of it and tightened the hammer rest rail screws.

Tuned a Kawai CX-5H. Get this. Typical idiot tuner syndrome. The "tooner" told the client that they were not going to raise it up to pitch and they did not complete the tuning and that nobody would know the difference anyway unless they used it with instruments. Man, you should have heard the thing. Talk about no rhyme or reason to a tuning? This was it. He tuned it back in Feb, 2010. This time of the year, the piano should be sharp. It was still, 1/2 tone flat! I raised it up to pitch, shimmed the balance rail, had lots of bobbling hammers, regulated the pedals that were not working at all. One pedal had the rod out of place. Like DUH! The other 2 pedals needed adjusting was all. I did a bunch of other stuff to make it play better. The tuning came out great after raising it up to 440. I was there for 2 1/2 hours.

Then, I tuned a Baldwin vertical full sized upright that was close to 440.
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/16/10 12:29 AM

Two studios, one a Kimball probably from the 1980s, last tuned two years ago, which was not too bad. The second a pre-war Wurlitzer, last tuned in 2002, which was a little worse.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/16/10 10:41 AM

Bojan, congrats on your shop! Sounds great. I'll be getting started a set of key bushings in my shed today, which isn't bad, but it doubles as music studio and library. Not much room for machines!

Yesterday was a 5 year old Seiler 186 grand that needed a pitch raise, some hammer sanding/brushing, a small amount of damper work, and a couple of hammer flanges repinned. Nice piano, just untended for a while. Then we got to an old Story and Clark spinet from the 40s with inverted stickers. Surprisingly not a bad tone and mechanism. I was shocked, because she was a new customer. A Kawai RX-2 that gets played often and hard. Quickie blow/lo/drop regulation, sanded and brushed hammers, some near crown needling in the killer octave area. Finally, a rental tuning on a Baldwin Studio from the 70s. Unpleasant tone, and black stuff all over the action.

BDB, I agree with your "string theory." Better to break them during a service call than during a performance.
Posted by: Bojan Babic

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/16/10 03:03 PM

Thanks Dave. I shall try to post some photos, if I would succeed to do it. Regards to you all.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/18/10 08:21 AM

Quote:
BDB, I agree with your "string theory." Better to break them during a service call than during a performance.
So now we have to bash the keys with our fists? cry

Saturday, tuned a Steinway B and a Baldwin L. Today, tuning a home, Cable Nelson she said with sticking keys. Then, had a last minute cancelation so, an open slot that I'm trying to fill. Then, a church. Tuning a Steinway M. Then, tuning a Steinway 0 and a Steinway B. Then, attending our local PTG chapter meeting. Busy day!
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/18/10 09:08 PM

My turn again! I get 2 turns in a row, whoopeee!

Looked at and gave an estimate on a Cable Nelson spinet made by Everett this morning. Had a reschedule come in last minute so, had a hole after that. Then, tuned 2 Steinway's. 1 B and one O. haha, just realized, there is a pun there, B 0!

Was supposed to tune another B but the darn door was locked and I don't have a key yet so, another time.
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/18/10 09:21 PM

100 cent pitch raise on a newer Kohler & Campbell grand that someone bought at an auction, then a Grand spinet, followed by an old Gordon upright.
Posted by: Roy Rodgers

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/18/10 09:39 PM

Turned in my resignation at work today. Go to part time through the end of November, then will be on my own tuning and repairing pianos. Big leap. But ready to be on my own again.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/18/10 10:59 PM

Way to go, Roy!

My first job was in a chateau, perhaps a model of the palace at Versailles, up on it's own hills surrounded by 20 or so acres of prime vineyard. I don't know how many bathrooms the place had, but I would guess at least 6, but probably more like 10. Tons of people on site doing various jobs, including yours truly. The money spent on this house could have balanced the budget in California. "Let them eat cake!"

Two Bosies in residence, one being the red and black giant that toured the world with the three tenors. The hydraulic apparatus that lifts the lid was not functioning, but I couldn't figure it out and turned it over to my pianoDisc installer buddy. So I pitch raised it, then tuned it. The other Bosie was your garden variety six and a half footer/80,000 dollar piano. Half way through the pitch raise, string 1 of C4 broke. This is understrung 17 1/2 wire that crosses the bridge right next to the plate strut. Kind of a PITA to repair, and my first ever on-the-job single string loop! All those years I wondered why they had that on the RPT test! But this was an omen of the last piano of the day.

It was a Wheelock upright, last tuned in the 60s, hand picked in 1934 for the owner's mom by her tuner granpa name of Doolittle. At 50-100c flat, I feared that the steel wound bass strings were not long for this world, and I was right. 3 of the last four bicords broke pretty quickly. I had warned the people....

Hadn't broken a string for months, either. When it rains, it pours.
Posted by: Torger

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/18/10 11:16 PM

Tuned and serviced a Steinway B,
set level and dip for a Short A Steinway
Had two people call at the same exact moment.
Phone company sent the Price shopper to me and the scheduler to voice mail.

a good day
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/19/10 06:53 AM

Originally Posted By: Dave Stahl


Half way through the pitch raise, string 1 of C4 broke. This is understrung 17 1/2 wire that crosses the bridge right next to the plate strut. Kind of a PITA to repair, and my first ever on-the-job single string loop!


I've been using the Stringer II tool sold by Pianotek for understring replacements. Now I don't know how I lived without it! It's so nice being able to quickly and easily replace those difficult strings without having to invent streams of new words in the process...
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/19/10 07:08 AM

Turned what would have been a frustrating no-show into a ho-hum cancellation by calling to confirm the appointment the night before. It was for an understandable reason.
Posted by: James Carney

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/19/10 09:16 AM

Yeah Loren, I love "the stringer." It really helps save time and prevents aggravation, especially with loop strings. I was actually borrowing one from another tech (for about a year!) and just last week he called and said "I want it back." I only needed it on one job in that time but now I'm probably jinxing myself, so its time to call Pianotek I guess...The bridge positioner part of the tool is awesome too.

Yesterday I started out tuning a nice M & H Model A - rebuilt very well within the last 10 years - a pleasure to tune...

Then a Marshall & Wendell 5-footer from the 20's that needed a huge pitchraise and about seven binding hammers realigned; this piano had no agraffes but sounded ok, although the trichord damper felts were more or less crushed due to the lack of consistent string spacing that agraffes provide. The funny part of this is that the fallboard lettering said "Marschall & Wendell" even though the plate casting was stamped "Marshall & Wendell." A refinisher's mistake, perhaps?

Then a brand new Estonia 190, a piano that I always love to tune and play. The last tuning of the day was supposed to be a factory fresh Blüthner Model 6 but it didn't arrive from JFK in time. So maybe Thursday for that one...

Today I get to practice/write all day long...
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/19/10 09:35 AM

Originally Posted By: Loren D
Originally Posted By: Dave Stahl


Half way through the pitch raise, string 1 of C4 broke. This is understrung 17 1/2 wire that crosses the bridge right next to the plate strut. Kind of a PITA to repair, and my first ever on-the-job single string loop!


I've been using the Stringer II tool sold by Pianotek for understring replacements. Now I don't know how I lived without it! It's so nice being able to quickly and easily replace those difficult strings without having to invent streams of new words in the process...


Yes, I've seen the stringer II and will probably buy one after this episode. It looks pretty cool. I've used lots of different tubular items, including brake line, brass tubing, pvc pipe. All that stuff got misplaced when I got a new car several months ago. Time to go hunting in the garage.

I also forgot to mention that the facilities guy at this job told me to park several hundred yards away from the house, which made the various back and forths to the car far more time consuming than desired....
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/19/10 07:00 PM

First a hammer reshaping/voicing job on an old Hardman grand. These were not the original hammers, but were installed by another tech about 6 years ago, so it was a nice job. Hammers really sounded nice when finished. A little bit of lube on the knuckles to take care of jack friction and some squeaky creaky noise.

After that, an old Ivers & Pond upright sitting in a church basement. I expected it to be 1/2 step flat and instead found it about 30 cents sharp. I prepped myself for a pitch raise for nothing. smile Then went and gave an estimate on another upright. Nice day. Really enjoyed the voicing and maintenance work on the Hardman.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/19/10 07:42 PM

Tuned 3 Yamaha P22's 30 minutes away. Lowered all 3 about 1/4 tone to 440. Got there about 9:30, yapped for a bit and was home again by 12:30. smile Tuned last in April. Pianos had to be on pitch, they use them with each other and with other stuff and for concert junk. Practices etc.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/19/10 08:34 PM

Winter came early today......1st piano - Aeolian Winter Studio, 40 cent pitch raise, moisture damage, 3 center pins walking out, dead soundboard, needs reg.

Then on to an 1885 Steinway with original action parts. I filed hammers and did a bench reg over the weekend. The action slipped right in, and with a bit of voicing and tuning was ready to go. I'm amazed at how smooth the reg went on those old parts. The result was very even.

Then, Winter showed it's face again - a customer who had a "country music star" of sorts coming for dinner needed a tuning today on his Winter grand. I'd tuned this in 2008, and it had held pretty well, for a piano with an outer rim less than 1/2" thick.

I finished up, and noted the outside temp was 87 degrees as I drove away. Winter was over. I went home, fed my DAG some GRUB, and he wagged his tail. grin
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/21/10 02:44 AM

The CFIIIs that had broken strings last week today. I came in and listened to the pianist playing it and winced before I remembered them. I told him what the problem was. It sounded good during the show.

The Steinway D yesterday sounded good, too, which was a bit embarrassing, because I have them on a campaign to replace the hammers. The piano is from about 1928, bought new for the building, and the hammers have been replaced once, but it is time to do it again, along with the repetition springs. Regular maintenance will keep it going without a complete rebuild, which they could not afford as easily, especially since it is on the second floor of the building. I replaced the strings 10 years ago, and with any luck they will last another 60 years.
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/21/10 06:18 AM

1920 Gordon upright that was at pitch, followed by an 80's mode Kimball console and an 80's Wurlitzer spinet.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/21/10 08:01 AM

The last 2 days were Yammie days. P22's. Nice tuning pianos. I have it great right now. Cept'n for today. I have 1 Yamaha P22, 1 Baldwin Acro., 1 Kimblah, Winter, Spinet, 1 Aeolian spinet. The positive? I've tuned these pianos exactly 1 year ago today. The negative? Would be if I were to somehow find them 1/4 tone sharp. I wonder if they would stay there? grin
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/21/10 06:05 PM

Installed a Dampp-Chaser™ system in a Wurlitzer vertical in a church, then tuned two 1960's vintage Hamiltons at an elementary school. Those old blonde Hamiltons are work horses! They keep going and going and going....
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/21/10 08:54 PM

I take back my last post. Turns out, I had to tune 5 pianos today. My son tuned one of them, I had to touch up some octaves and a few unison's but, 3 of them were Yamaha P22's, 1 was an Everett studio and 1 was a Story & Clark spinet. Had to raise pitch on all 5 of them. Still, 1/2 days' worth of work for me. I love it! smile
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/22/10 07:23 PM

First a 1969 Acrosonic that had to come up 30 cents. New customer, and this was another one of those pianos whose top 4 notes have never been tuned; they were around 150 cents flat. After that, a Kimball console at a church, followed by a newer Story & Clark at another church. Then finished off the day with a newer Wurlitzer grand that was 50 cents flat, had out of phase bass strings, false beats throughout the treble, and terribly tight centers on the damper levers. Glad that one's done!
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/22/10 07:50 PM

Kimball Console, Schimmel grand, Essex studio, Stein L, Stein L, and finally a Pearl River grand - the most notable of the lot. This piano lacks action glide studs, so I shimmed the center rail and did a reg two years ago to get aftertouch. The strings snap past the bearings, and inharmonicity is soooo high, I had several choices for bass string location. Octave, naw, lets use a double octave, hmmm, try a fifth, naw, octave and fifth, naw, back to the double octave, check the 10ths, hmmmm, note above is a bit out, retune that, try the seventeenths, hmmm, found another that,s not quite right, back to the double octave, and finally after much messing around, treble chords with a bass root sounded good. Actually, it's not a bad sounding piano, once all the farting around with the tuning is complete.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/23/10 09:23 AM

Yamaha G-3 that I do every 6 mos., basically tune the mid range (wet-weather #) touch-up.
Yamaha RX-3, a year old, very close to pitch. Tuned, teflonned knuckles, pushed down on the balanciers to smear the existing lube onto the spring tips(a new trick I thought might be worth trying--it worked! the ticking is gone...for now, anyway).
An ancient Steinway, serial #33237, not sure of the model. According to the Steinway website, it was made around 1876. 85 notes, joined tail, some good sized soundboard cracks. But the old thing still sounded pretty good, considering. I hope I sing that well when I'm 135 years old!
Tuned and pitch raised a ear-splittingly bright Weber studio, a former rental.
Pitch adjusted and tuned a Kawai K-25 that I've been servicing for 8 years, but only every couple of years.
I picked up my 10 year old lad for my weekend with him, and I tried to explain to him why I don't want the music so loud in the car.
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/23/10 09:47 AM


Spray booth today all day…..
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/23/10 10:43 AM

Originally Posted By: Silverwood Pianos

Spray booth today all day…..


that sounds like my kind of fun.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/23/10 07:31 PM

4 lined up today, Kimball spinet - pins too loose to tune - the DC bar laying on the bottom board, running 24-7 with no HD (a common issue here). Someone put thick white keytops on without shaving the wood first, so the sharps are too low in relation to the whites. Baldwin Acro spinet Bass and treble bridge caps loose, hard damper felt - moisture damage. Baldwin R in same home, pins too loose to tune, rusty strings, original action worn out - quoted repairs. Wurl spinet, 150 cents flat, RP to 10 cents flat. 4th stop not home. Good, I needed a short day today!
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/23/10 11:34 PM

Quote:
Spray booth today all day…..


Sprayed a booth huh? Aren't you supposed to spray pianos? grin

Me, I went north to the cottage yesterday after work. Sucked up leaves for 3 hours after dark. Was supposed to rain today. Froze my you know what off. Came in, took a nice HOT shower, warmed up, went to the neighbor's down the road, partied for a while, went to bed (duh), woke up, closed down the 2nd cottage and then came home again. Now, cottages are closed for the winter. Such a shame summer is so short in Michigan.
Posted by: Brittin

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/24/10 01:38 AM

I poured some milk over an open spinet today(into a coffee cup).
I think that is the first time I have poured milk into a piano
in my 35 years of working on pianos.

Has anyone ever started a thread on funny stories and calls
from customers? Like once a customer called and asked when he
could bring his piano over for a tuning, after all, he had a pickup truck.

Or how about the call from the local Holiday Inn where the
piano had been pushed into the swimming pool.

Has anyone ever had a police escort to go do an "emergency
tuning"?

Anyone ever tuned a piano in the middle of a dirt race track
at the county fair while rodeo horses were kicking up dust
practicing their tricks?
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/24/10 07:13 AM

Originally Posted By: Brittin

Has anyone ever had a police escort to go do an "emergency
tuning"?


As a matter of fact, yes! There was a pretty big symphony concert here once. A concert grand was rented; the outfit delivered the piano and their tech tuned it. It then sat under the hot stage lights for a few hours. By the time the soloist arrived, she was complaining that the bass was out of tune. The concert was due to start in 45 minutes! There would have been no way for the tech from the company who rented the piano to get out there again in time, so my phone rang with an urgent request if I could get down there and touch up the bass. I said I could. They told me that a security vehicle would meet me at the entrance to the complex and that I should follow them and they would escort me to just outside the rear stage entrance, where I could park while I work.

Police escort! smile

*edit* typo
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/24/10 07:14 AM

Another "emergency."

12 year old: "How much does it tune to get a Matchbox car out of a grand piano, and can you do it before 4:00?"

laugh
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/24/10 09:44 AM

COMPLETELY OT: Nothing piano today, but for playing my own a little. Watched the SF Giants win the National League title in typical nail-biting-blood-pressure raising fashion. I think they won something like 50 games by one run this year. GO GIANTS!
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/24/10 12:54 PM


Les, you like spraying? This one is a difficult one, and will take some time. Antique black walnut with highlighted detail and darkened trim rails/edges. I use the regulator attachment (without a gauge) underneath my hand and turn down the air to about 10-12lbs to do the shading.

I’ll send you some photos as I go…..
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/24/10 01:52 PM

Yesterday some of my family was here from out of town. I was going to cook dinner for them, but one of our birds is convalescing in the dining room, so we went out instead. I had gotten tickets for a show in the series I tune for, and I took them to that. I was a bit worried that there might be some trouble downtown, but the rain took care of that. The best performer in the show was a substitute for another artist who was recovering from malaria, which is a tale for my MD niece to tell her friends and colleagues.

I have never had a police escort, but I have had chauffeured limousine rides.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/24/10 07:28 PM

Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT

Was supposed to rain today. Froze my you know what off. Came in, took a nice HOT shower, warmed up. Such a shame summer is so short in Michigan.


Mid 80's and sunny here once again......It hasn't rained in three weeks....... Day off on Friday - I think I'll go to the beach...... or maybe the wetlands to see some birds and gators. Wanna come, Jerry???? grin
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/24/10 09:22 PM

Yeap and the weather just keeps getting worse here Bob. Although today was pretty nice. I think I know what you're getting for Christmas this year. A semi truck FULL of snow. thumb
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/24/10 10:27 PM

The University has an out door ice skating rink during the Holidays. There is also a place displaying ice sculptures, and a few places that do truck in snow. So we get a taste, and a taste is all we want!
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/24/10 11:12 PM

Me too! A taste is all I want of snow too. Hey, we should trade places for a couple of weeks! There's an idea!
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/25/10 08:54 AM

Two shots, two rabbits, great hound.
Posted by: Phil D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/25/10 10:03 AM

I just got burned by a customer. She was expecting me to "pop in" to take a look at a piano I'd previously condemned, just to tweak a couple of notes to stop them sticking. She was hoping I'd do this for free, and I should have picked this up from the call and the way she communicated, but I didn't, so I went there, did my best to free up the notes (It was the WORST overdamper action I've ever seen, I couldn't even remove the hammer or the whippen!), and then when I said I would have to charge, she damn near burst into tears. She's trying to organise her grandfather's funeral at the moment in NZ, so obviously has a lot on her plate and lot of pressure on her wallet.
But she'd also been looking at new pianos to replace the one she has. I gave her some advice, before the payment issue came up, said she could certainly look for a second hand piano that will be cheaper and just as good if not better than any new piano she could afford.
I'll be in touch with her via email to resolve this, a bit more experience and I'm sure I'd have managed to avoid the situation. Really frustrating though!
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/25/10 10:13 AM

Originally Posted By: Not a Mongoose
I just got burned by a customer. She was expecting me to "pop in" to take a look at a piano I'd previously condemned, just to tweak a couple of notes to stop them sticking. She was hoping I'd do this for free, and I should have picked this up from the call and the way she communicated, but I didn't, so I went there, did my best to free up the notes (It was the WORST overdamper action I've ever seen, I couldn't even remove the hammer or the whippen!), and then when I said I would have to charge, she damn near burst into tears. She's trying to organise her grandfather's funeral at the moment in NZ, so obviously has a lot on her plate and lot of pressure on her wallet.
But she'd also been looking at new pianos to replace the one she has. I gave her some advice, before the payment issue came up, said she could certainly look for a second hand piano that will be cheaper and just as good if not better than any new piano she could afford.
I'll be in touch with her via email to resolve this, a bit more experience and I'm sure I'd have managed to avoid the situation. Really frustrating though!


I feel for you Phil:

This sort of thing hasn't quite happened to me, but if it does I have a plan in place. I will write out a bill, give it to them and say "This is my charge. Pay me what you think the work was worth." If they pay it, then or later, fine. If they don't, I will not make a fuss. It would be bad for my reputation. Every business should plan for some bad debts. It is just another expense. Of course I would not provide any more services, either. If I could not satisfy them before, I probably could not later.
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/25/10 03:37 PM


Just tuned a Winter drop action this morning. I had forgotten what a wonderful experience it is when you lose a wire mute down into the break………

Then on to a C. W. Lindsay painted white….. “I got it from my parents…it has been in the garage since I moved out in ‘81……
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/25/10 07:44 PM

A Kimball console (Schwander action) and Baldwin Hamilton at an elementary school, followed by a very nice Steinway B that was rebuilt in the 90's. After that, a 1955 Everett console that had to come up around 30 cents. Easy day. smile
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/25/10 08:47 PM

A circa 1920's Steinway upright, original except for key tops. Plenty of wear. Tuned and quoted partial and full rebuilds. Pins still tight. Then to a Conn console (a stencil built by Kimball). Cabinet all beat up, main action rail split on right side at the glue joint, so the top 7 keys were dead. One broken bass string - found it in the bottom. Two walking hammer flange center pins. Quoted a repair price and the decision maker said they would buy a keyboard instead so I walked away with a service call fee. Then to a 50's era Wurlitzer spinet, still in good shape. Raised pitch and voiced some notes.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/25/10 09:00 PM

Originally Posted By: Not a Mongoose
I just got burned by a customer. She was expecting me to "pop in" to take a look at a piano I'd previously condemned, just to tweak a couple of notes to stop them sticking. She was hoping I'd do this for free,when I said I would have to charge, she damn near burst into tears. Really frustrating though!


In some situations you either do work for free, or the customer badmouths you to everyone she knows.

I like to put in writing any irregularities, like when that customer doesn't want to have parts re-pinned, opting instead for a lesser cost lube, I put it on the invoice "parts may stick again in the future, no warranty", and that info goes in the computer file. When that customer calls two months later with sticking, I pull up the file and see what I did, why, and that there is no warranty, and the issue of cost is resolved before I make the trip out there.

If it sounds like a piano might be junk, I'm sure to tell them there is a minimum service call charge of $XX.XX if I can't tune the piano. I failed to say that a few months ago, and the customer said "you didn't tell me there would be a charge." Rather than argue with him, I ate the cost. He was ticked off because he moved his junker across the state only to have me tell him the bad news.

Some customers can be a bit unreasonable, but there are far more great customers than not so great!
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/25/10 11:12 PM

Tuned a Yamaha console today, took the bench home for repairs. After that, I went over to a customers home where I had sub contracted the work to another tech. He completed it this past Friday. I like to drop in on them from time to time to make sure their work is up to par. It was but for 2 octaves that I had to re-tune. Gave the customer a bill, they paid me.

Last Friday, I had dropped off my Eden Pure heater for repairs. It was done so I drove 30 minutes to pick it up. Nobody near me repairs them but for this one place. Then, dropped off the bench to a friend to have it fixed.

Next, drove to my college and tuned 7 pianos. 1 Steinway B, some Yamaha's and some Kawai's. Long day. I'm tired. sleep
Posted by: RPD

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/26/10 12:08 PM

Put my morning on hold today...and rescheduled my 1st of five appts...a church...we had multiple "rain wrapped tornados" here.

Sounds good doesn't it?...a "rain wrapped" tornado. I'll take a six pack of those and some billowy clouds to go.

RPD
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/26/10 12:23 PM

Boy, do we ever Rick!!! The weather sucks here today!
Posted by: elecmuse3

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/26/10 12:29 PM

Originally Posted By: RPD
Put my morning on hold today...and rescheduled my 1st of five appts...a church...we had multiple "rain wrapped tornados" here.

Sounds good doesn't it?...a "rain wrapped" tornado. I'll take a six pack of those and some billowy clouds to go.

RPD


I was telling a work friend about how my brother-in-law visited us in Florida in 2005 during one of the 4 hurricanes that hit the state (we were out of the direct path, but had 13 inches of rain that day and 60 mph winds). He was happy to go outside and walk in it a bit, because it completed his list of natural disasters personally experienced: a tornado and a blizzard in South Dakota, an earthquake in San Diego, and a cyclone while in the Navy.
The work friend quietly related how he went to his sister-in-law's farm to help clean up the incredible mess after a tornado. She was killed. Never again will I joke about natural disasters.
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/26/10 09:01 PM

Old blonde Baldwin Hamilton in a middle school, then did some maintenance on a Pramberger grand (reshape hammers, voice, clean soundboard, vacuum interior, vacuum action and keybed). From there I went to a Hampton console. I'm thinking this must have been one of Kimball's brands since it had a Schwander action. At pitch, but a few of the jacks had pins coming out of them. Also had to adjust capstans in the bass section to introduce some lost motion. Not a bad day. smile
Posted by: Cinnamonbear

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/26/10 09:43 PM

Well, this is my first of what I hope to be many posts in this thread in the future! Right now, I'm like "Herbie" the "dentist" in "Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer"--I hope to be a piano tech...someday!

Bill Bremmer, RPT, came over today to work on my 1903 Haddorff 56" upright and show me how to do some things. Prior to his arrival, I had taken the action out, unhooked all the bridal straps and took off all the dampers. I tried replacing a hammer flange butt plate, but couldn't get the thing to work right. Found out later that the screws that came with the plates I ordered were too big for the hole in the flange.

Anyway, when Bill came over, he checked work that I had done cleaning the bass strings and replacing missing ivories, things that he had explained how to do during his last visit. Then, we got to work. We took off the hammer spring rail, then he had me buzz the new butt plates with the dremmel grinder to round their edges off a little. He re-pinned the hammers in the middle section, a few in the bass, and a few in the treble while replacing about 2 doz. butt plates. During this process, he discovered that some of the hammers had been placed out of order at some point in the piano's history and worked that puzzle for a while.

Meanwhile, I cleaned the rust and the dust off the hammer rail springs with alcohol and steel wool and retensioned them. Then I started cleaning the damper wires and springs and lightly sanded the damper felts. When Bill had all the hammers moving the way he wanted them, he re-shaped them. We put the hammer spring rail back on and put the springs back in place, then Bill lubed the damper rod.

I still have about half the dampers to clean and sand yet. (Hey, I may not be fast, but at least I'm slow!)

Man, did I ever learn a lot today! Plus, we had a great time swapping stories and listening to jazz while we worked! grin In between the jazz, instructions, explanations of what he was doing, descriptions of what other work needed to be done on the piano, stories, and laughs, Bill would occasionally spontaneously break into song: recitatives from an upcoming Handel oratorio! laugh Life is good.

--Andy
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/26/10 10:06 PM

Perusing the files of tomorrow's customers, I notice I've had pricing disputes with my 3pm customer at previous tunings. My notes say from 3 years ago, Cust only wanted to pay $xx, which was way below market at the time. Due to that, when confirming the next tuning (two years ago), I confirmed the price with him, he resisted, saying the price was too high, so we canceled the job.

He calls back 3 months later, agrees to pay the price, and I tune the piano. Now, it's two years later, he is scheduled for tomorrow, and prices have again increased. When confirming the appointment, I tell him the price is $xxx. He complained and said last time it was $xx. I explained that was two years ago and prices have gone up. I offered to cancel the appointment and he could shop for another tuner, or he could pay the current price of $xxx. He agreed to pay the current price. I'm still going to call him when I'm on the way, though to confirm. My customer notes saved me the hassle of discussing price in the customer's home after the piano is tuned.
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/27/10 09:42 AM


Not trying to tell you how to run your business there Bob but for customers such as this I just bid them good day and move on. This fellow does not care about you or your work; he just wants the lowest price. Moreover he probably does this with everything in his life. Life is just too short to deal with the people who have made money their God.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/27/10 10:52 AM

Stayed home yesterday. Was supposed to tune at Calvin College but we had high winds as Rick pointed out in an earlier thread. My wife was kind of freaked with it all, upwards of 60 MPH winds with tornado warnings all around on and off and tornado watches and stuff so, well, I thought it was a good enough excuse to stay put for the day so, I did.

Getting a late start today. Going to the college in the afternoon. Seems a bit better time to get at the practice pianos.

Then, I volunteer as a driver for the Ronald McDonald House tonight from 6-9 PM. Been doing that for 8 years now. If any one of you is looking for an opportunity to volunteer for a great organization, this one is it.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/27/10 07:49 PM

The price sensitive customer is from a different country - from a culture that haggles on price. He was glad to see me, and I layed down a good solid tuning for him. I gave this customer the opportunity to get the lowest price, and he declined. He went price shopping 2 years ago. He just wants a good value for his money, and that's what he got! Because I had notes on him, I was prepared for the haggle and was able to work it out.
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/27/10 09:25 PM

Long day today; 8 total. 7 for a university conference (Steinway L, D, Mason & Hamlin BB, Steinway K, and 3 Boston studios), and a B at another college. Lots of nice pianos!
Posted by: liszt85

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/27/10 10:04 PM

Originally Posted By: Bob
The price sensitive customer is from a different country - from a culture that haggles on price. He was glad to see me, and I layed down a good solid tuning for him. I gave this customer the opportunity to get the lowest price, and he declined. He went price shopping 2 years ago. He just wants a good value for his money, and that's what he got! Because I had notes on him, I was prepared for the haggle and was able to work it out.


That's exactly how this must be handled. I might belong to that particular country you're talking about. Add to that the fact that I'm a student in a foreign country with limited means. I called a few RPT's and compared prices. Tunings ranged from $75-100. I went with the one that was available the earliest. His charge was $80 but he worked on the piano for longer and had to do two runs of tuning. He asked for $140 and I paid the money happily because he worked hard at the tuning for 2.5 hours. He also did a quick 5 minute steam voicing.

People from my country do like to haggle but when we really want something, we want it to be the best value for money. Once we are convinced about the value, we no longer haggle. However, to claim that value is guaranteed because the price is high, does not fly with us somehow. Its a cultural thing.. I'm glad there are people who understand this. Its those people that we do our best business with.

I have exactly $185 in my account as we speak (I have a non working wife to support too). My meager stipend will be here in 3 days and I'm counting on it. So to have people tell me to pay $140 to anybody who claims that their tuning is the best because their price is the highest, is plain offensive. I will absolutely talk about price and about everything that the price includes. I will make sure that I shop around for prices! I will make sure that the little money I do have is not wasted. If people want to call that haggling, that's fine!
Posted by: RPD

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/27/10 10:17 PM

Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT

Then, I volunteer as a driver for the Ronald McDonald House tonight from 6-9 PM. Been doing that for 8 years now.


Very cool, that.

RPD
Posted by: RPD

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/27/10 10:24 PM

Originally Posted By: elecmuse3
Originally Posted By: RPD
Put my morning on hold today...and rescheduled my 1st of five appts...a church...we had multiple "rain wrapped tornados" here.

Sounds good doesn't it?...a "rain wrapped" tornado. I'll take a six pack of those and some billowy clouds to go.

RPD


The work friend quietly related how he went to his sister-in-law's farm to help clean up the incredible mess after a tornado. She was killed. Never again will I joke about natural disasters.



That would be sobering, to be sure. As for me, I joke about life's terrors and joys, equally...but your point is certainly well taken when somebody has lost a loved one in any type of situation...
Posted by: Roy Rodgers

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/28/10 11:41 PM

Moved an old upright out of a house this afternoon and in its place set up a Yamaha Baby Grand in its place. Go back next week to tune it.
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/29/10 07:24 PM

Started out with a Hamilton studio at a church. After that, three more at another church: Steinway B, Acrosonic console, and a 125-cent flat Henry F. Miller spinet! From there another Acrosonic at a private home.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/29/10 08:38 PM

Quote:
Very cool, that.

RPD


Thanks Rick! I do enjoy helping others. They appreciate it too.

Tuesday, had the day off from the very high winds here. Stayed home with the wife.

Wed: Tuned a Kawai K-3 a Yamaha U1, another Yamaha U1, (going through my list) a Yamaha Diskaliver, a Kawai K-3, a Yamaha P22, a Baldwin L. Removed the action on the L. Filled 2 stripped holes in the damper stop rail and adjusted same. Regulated the sost., pedal. Tightened the hammer flanges, spaced same. Regulated the cheek block screw for the soft pedal. Regulated 2 dampers, bent the wires slightly. They were coming off on a very slight angle to the left. Just enough for the right string to ring through. Filled 2 more stripped holes in the artist bench.

Thursday: Tuned a Kawai GE-30. Concert tuned a Bosendorfer, Tuned a Kawai K-2, tuned a Kawai GM-12, tuned a Boston studio.

Today, tuned a Kawai K-3, a Yamaha P22, a Kawai K-3. My kind of day today!

Raised pitch on every single one of these pianos too.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/29/10 10:47 PM

Tuned a Kawai RX-2, a Kawai RX-6, and old U-1 Yammie with all the spring cords broken, and a 90 year old Estey/Brambach POS/PSO, whichever you prefer to call it...

Tomorrow 1 tuning, then watch the World Series!
Go Giants!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: A=443

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/31/10 07:39 AM

Where is a my client house?
cry

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKHF1ZKuqmk
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 10/31/10 01:38 PM


A little drive around Japan. Nice!
Posted by: RPD

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/01/10 12:24 AM

Sunday...seldom work a Sunday, but today I put together a restored pump organ...and watched two foxes out my shop window...life is good here in Michigan. Played my guitar and took a long walk. The stars are falling down its so beautiful, cold and crisp.

This weekend I met with friends from England in their concert tour that included Kalamazoo, and had a great discussion with them about our little piano shop in the countryside. We talked about strange piano and organ stories, and I think they would have probably, just then, rather come to our cottage and sat around our woodstove than gotten back on their bus. Sometimes I think what we do here is magic...it seems so to us...

RPD
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/01/10 08:30 AM

Cool drive! We were in Japan for 10 days in February 2007 for vacation. What a great place to visit, I think. We had a blast and the food was nummy!!!
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/01/10 08:03 PM

Started off with a Baldwin L grand in a church, followed by an old open-faced pinblock Hadorff upright. After that, a Howard spinet (raised 30 cents). From there, a quick service call to unstick two keys on a newly-delivered George Steck console, and then another call to pull up a new bass string that slipped. Finished off with a 50-cent pitch raise on a 1925 Chickering grand. Nice full day. smile
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/01/10 09:37 PM

Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT
Cool drive! We were in Japan for 10 days in February 2007 for vacation. What a great place to visit, I think. We had a blast and the food was nummy!!!


Hey Jerry,
Yes it is a cool drive. Where did you go when you were in Japan; did you just do the tourist thing in the major cities or did you get a chance to get out into the smaller towns and villages?
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/01/10 10:42 PM

We had a Japanese exchange student stay with us for one full year. I taught her English adding a few funny words that were not correct too. Like, here in Grand Rapids, we have a Meijer store. Pronounced Meyer. I told her to pronounce it My---JER. I want to go to My-Jer. She came home and said DAAAAD you did it again!

One day, she came home and said, dad, kids laugh at me. Why Tomoe? Dad, what did you teach me wrong now? Nothing, this time! What are you saying? It is when I ask for a "SHIT" of paper. I broke down laughing. Tears streaming down my face. She said, what so funny? It is spelled sheet right? I couldn't answer. I had to stop laughing first. I explained what she was actually saying and what it meant. She about crapped herself. Especially after I told her to go and ask her teacher tomorrow for a sheet of paper! I managed to get her to pronounce it correctly however after many tries.

Some of the hardest words to teach and get them to understand are words like Dam or Damn. Sheet, because they want to say it as I said above... Burn, burned, burnt, burning, barn, born, been, ben, and many more. They all sound the same to them she said and of course, some of them do.

She lives in Gifu. Pretty much right in the center of Japan. We had our own private guide, interpreter and all. We visited lots of places, many, many restaurants too. Shopping malls too. I love their foods. I said, Tomo, I taught you English for 12 months, you can interpret for us for 10 days. Anytime dad! She said. And so, she was our interpreter.

We went to Nagoya, to Kyoto and other places too. We stayed over night in Kyoto sleeping on the floor for the experience, the old fashioned way. Actually, many of them still prefer to sleep this way to this day. I think we saw about 50 Buddha's too.

We even happened upon two geisha girls as they were walking in full uniform down the street. Normally, they do not allow pictures to be take with strangers but, Tomo asked them and they said OK! Nice people! We had a wonderful time!

The plane ride sucks though.
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/01/10 10:51 PM

I have a customer whose last name ends in -eij, which is a Dutch spelling. The family are interesting people. Her husband is a MacArthur fellow. She bought my uncle's piano with some of the prize money.
Posted by: A=443

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/01/10 10:55 PM

I can't speak English well. An expression in right and left made a mistake in me, didn't it?

If everyone comes to Osaka City in Japan, please contact me.
I know a lot of good restaurant.
Sushi Tempura Ramen (Chinese noodles)it's like a pasta.
My American acquaintance loves the Ramen. so he eat it everyday.
he came from Flor. laugh
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/01/10 10:57 PM

Looks like no more baseball games on the backstage monitors this year!
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/01/10 11:14 PM

Originally Posted By: BDB
Looks like no more baseball games on the backstage monitors this year!


Tuned a Yamaha M 100 with disk recorder, a year old Mason B (short grand) with damper issues, then went to a senior assisted care apartment building to tune a Hallet Davis (recent Chinese version) upright and an again Brambach BG. listening to the seniors discussing watching the world Series. Worked as fast as I possibly could so that I could get home in time to watch the game.

Jeez, BDB, enjoy the moment. I've been a Giants fan since they moved here in 58, and this is the first time they've won a series. They didn't beat around the bush this time. YEEEEEEEEAAAAAH.
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/02/10 01:43 PM


One Heintzman & Co 6ft. grand, one Heintzman & Co full size upright, one Lesage full size upright, and one 52 inch grand by Zimmerman. Yes really it is that short….4’6” or something?
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/02/10 02:30 PM

A very nice, slower, relaxing week for me. Loving every second of it.

Monday: Tuned a Kawai RX-7. Looked at at old Washburn upright. The client is contemplating fixing verses replacing. Did not tune. Gave an estimate anyway. Tuned a Steinway M. Has loose tuning pins, but holding, needs rebuilding, she wants done, contacted my rebuilder and she wants refinished.

Tuesday: Voted! Tuned a Kawai UST-8. Tuned a Baldwin Acro not tuned since 1986. A Groot tuned it last. It was at 438-439. Raised to pitch. That's it! Play time boys and girls!
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/02/10 05:01 PM

Voted! High turnout too. I voted 10 minutes after polls opened and I was #41 in our little Podunk polling place. Then did some maintenance work on a pair of Yamaha consoles at a church: Reshaped hammers, voiced, vacuumed keys, keybed, and interior on both. After that, a private tuning on an old, 1926 Kranich & Bach grand (ex Welte). Needs rebuilt, but not a bad sounding piano at all.

Now gonna sit back and watch election results all night. smile
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/02/10 10:42 PM

80 degrees in the SF Bay Area today...

Tuned an older but nice C-3 Yamaha, a real beater old Wurly spinet, an old G-3 Yam, and a Yamaha P-22 with a pitch raise.

Tomorrow I'm going to San Francisco to tune an older Baldwin and an older Steinway M. I may go early to see the World Series Champion victory parade. I don't know if I'll be able to avoid it even if I want to. The crowd is predicted to be a million people! Holy Cow!
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/04/10 07:19 PM

Mixed bag today. First a piano playing gig for an hour for a benefit. After that, headed off to a college to fix a dead not on a D; simple fix (loose hammer flange screw). After that, a 125 cent flat 1978 Kohler & Campbell console that probably had never been tuned. From there, an old Schroeder upright that's still kicking.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/05/10 12:01 AM

Originally Posted By: Loren D
Mixed bag today. First a piano playing gig for an hour for a benefit. After that, headed off to a college to fix a dead not on a D; simple fix (loose hammer flange screw). After that, a 125 cent flat 1978 Kohler & Campbell console that probably had never been tuned. From there, an old Schroeder upright that's still kicking.


Tuning a 78 Kohler and Campbell is next to impossible. The number of individually beating treble strings one is likely to encounter in those monsters is overwhelming. I far prefer the Korean K and Cs.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/05/10 12:05 AM

Tuned a Kawai console, looked at an old upright, Baldwin Monarch. Some DOPE tooner worked on it. Should have had a camera. Part of the bass bridge cap was split off and gone. The top half. All of the last octave or so in the upper part of the bass were missing bridge pins. I mean, ALL OF THEM WERE GONE! Guess what the fix was? Come on guess! OK, you give up already???... Nails. Thick nails. It worked, to a point. The was no angle, you know, the S between the bridge pins, it was pretty much straight.

The hammers were only half filed. Regulation was yucky too. Bad job.

Then, tuned a small Yamaha grand. Then off to the college. Was told E-2 string was broken on the Steinway B. I was relieved to find that it was actually, Eb -6 and E-7 that was broken.

I was told that A-3 was sticking too. It was not... So, I checked all of the A's. ha . Nothing sticking. So, I played all of the notes as fast, as slow and in between that I could. Nothing sticking.... Probably sticking now though. Then, did a fast run through touching up the tuning

But, I at least got a chance to let my son install the broken strings today. I showed him how judge the proper length of string so that both tuning pins would get the right amount of coils. The same amount as the others around it.

I showed him how to get the becket in line with the others, how to line up beckets on both sets of tuning pins. How to give and take on the strings so the other tuning pin had a bit more string to line up the becket. He found that fun, interesting and he did a great job. I had to finish it up by tightening up the coils and stuff but, oh, crap, I just remembered, I forgot in all of that to seat the new strings on the bridge!!!! OOPS!!! Oh well, I have to go back in a day or two to touch up the new wires anyway, we'll do it then. If I can remember. Note to self. What was that you were supposed to do again?
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/05/10 07:20 AM

Had a “Tuner’s Choice” appointment. The customer had two pianos, one they had for a while and one given to them and wanted my opinion as to which is better. The one they had was a Sterling spinet bought from a college that was a practice piano. The one given to them was an art deco Knabe console that had light home use that I guess was from the 30s. It was not a tough decision, the Knabe won. It had an interesting scale. The break was at D3-D#3 with the next four notes being wound bichords and the four after that unwound bichords. The tone was even enough that I had to look to see which I was playing when checking progressive thirds. There was some small discrepancy going on that I couldn’t quite figure out, but it was so minor that it really didn’t matter. All the fifths had good tone which is unusual for a console. I wish the console manufacturers of the seventies had learned from these guys!
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/05/10 08:20 AM

Some piano makers from the 70's and 80's were so concerned with foreign competition and shrinking sales, they forgot the product has to sound and play like a piano.
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/06/10 10:10 AM

Got my 3rd tutoring lesson in tuning yesterday, working aural ET, feeling pretty good so far. While in the shop, I resolved a couple of grands with buzzes. One was a S&C with the PNOscan strip installed, seems it was buzzing from lose screws. The other was a Yam with a lose lid guide plate. Felt good to find both.
Posted by: SM Boone

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/06/10 07:29 PM

went to the library to do genealogical research. I think that was what I needed to do. Saw a rainbow last night for about 3 seconds, John saw it too.
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/08/10 01:41 AM

Today was the CFIIIs again, and a low Ab was hitting the Helpinstill pickup. I had to eliminate other suspects, but finally the guy who belonged to the pickup came out and adjusted it. It looked like there was at least 2 or 3 mm. to the pickup. That was not enough, though.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/08/10 08:25 AM

I have this one church that has a Helpinstill pickup system that gets moved around constantly. I don't know who's doing it but, it's a pain. I can't count the amount of times they've called complaining that the treble hammers were not playing at all. Well, DUH! Someone moved it, again! Move it back and leave it alone. Always solves the problem for some reason. crazy
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/08/10 05:49 PM

7 tunings today. 6 at a college: Bosendorfer grand, 3 Mason & Hamlin consoles (60's vintage), 60's Wurlitzer console and a Yamaha P22. From there, went to the local playhouse to tune their Disklavier. Nice full day!
Posted by: Sam Casey

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/08/10 11:30 PM

Helpinstills are a pain. Cords buzz on the board, techs leave boxes and metal junctions on the plate and board and complain about buzzes. Set a few good voice mikes and mix it right is plenty good.

Did a Kawai grand and Yamaha Studio for a elder care place then traded off my RAV4 for a 2010 Highlander Hybrid. See if the gas economy is all its cracked up to be.
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/09/10 08:02 PM

Seven more at a college today. Two B's, Three Yamaha P-22's, a Boston UP-118S and an old Mason & Hamlin studio.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/09/10 10:46 PM

Monday, tuned a Kawai K-2 and a Yamaha P22 in a home. Then, tuned a Yamaha C-1 (I think) and a Yamaha U1.
Tuesday: Nice day. Tuned what I'm TRYING to tune a day... 3! A Schimmel 52" (about) upright, a Steinway O and a Kawai UST-7.
Wednesday will be: A Yamaha GH1, a Kimblah spinet, a Kawai RX-6, Schimmel T120. Then, volunteering as a driver for the Ronald McDonald House.
Thursday will be: A Yamaha grand, an I don't know and another I don't know. 3 again.
Friday: A Yamaha studio, Kawai UST-8, an old Grinell upright, an I don't know yet and then, an appraisal of something... Can't seem to keep it down to only 3 a day! smile
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/10/10 01:41 AM

Tuned a Shigeru-Kawai SK-3, what a great piano.
A Weinbach upright that has okay tone and tunes well, but the action is godawful noisy. Some of it was from the jack springs. Proteked them without high expectations that it would last.

Tuned a Steinway M Queen Anne from the early 80s. Replaced a string, then re-coiled a complete botch job on another string. Nice sounding piano, but it plays like a tank. The keyframe said "perma free action," but the action didn't have teflon bushings.

Went to fix a problem note on an old 1880s Steinway. Turns out the jack on the middle C wip was broken. No replacement was available in my parts pin. I hope they decide to exercise the trade-back option with the store they purchased it from...

Tuned a 70s everett 6000 series console, not tuned for maybe ten years. Only the mid range was 5 cents flat or a little more, the rest pretty much at pitch. What a great little piano! Nice tone, tuned well, really fun to play. Such a bummer they had to close the factory.
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/10/10 02:15 AM

Permafree 2 has teflon-impregnated felt.

If the jack arm came unglued, I have glued those back together.

I worked on an 1890's Steinway AI today, dealing with pedals, and a bass string that broke at the bridge. I tied another piece of wire on until I can get a replacement.
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/10/10 07:14 AM

Wasn't it right around '82 that Steinway nixed the teflon bushing and went to the Permafree II?
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/10/10 07:30 AM

When those jacks break, check out the action regulation. It could be the jack is slapping against the whippen. I had one of these up north - but the customer refused to get action work done. I fired him.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/10/10 08:06 AM

Ohhhhh, do I wish I could sleep in this morning!!!!!!!!! One of those mornings where zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz would be just perfect!!!
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/10/10 09:07 AM

Originally Posted By: Bob
When those jacks break, check out the action regulation. It could be the jack is slapping against the whippen. I had one of these up north - but the customer refused to get action work done. I fired him.


That is the case; too much aftertouch. This is a new customer who just bought this piano from a store I contract for. The piano is in a tight corner in a dimly lit room. Hard to get at, hard to see, not much room to finagle the action out. The customer is not interested in spending $ on action work, even though they got it fairly inexpensively, as Steinways go. This would be a good rebuild project, methinks.
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/10/10 01:28 PM

Tuned a 1966 Story & Clark console, nice piano, pins are very predicable, has a couple of tubby bass strings though. First tuned it back in July - they just purchased it- and it was a whole semitone off, was 23cent low today, did a pitch raise and tune today.
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/10/10 10:24 PM

Day three of college tunings. Tuned 7 today. 3 Hamiltons, a Yamaha P22, an Everett console, a 90's Chickering grand (Samick), and a Mason & Hamlin console. 2 more days ought to wrap it up.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/10/10 10:47 PM

Stencil grand by major maker - Sticky hammer flanges due to poor seasoning of wood parts. Tuned, and made appointment to remove, test, and re-pin each sticky flange. Also needs voicing. Then to a Wurli spinet I tune every year for a wonderful old lady. She has two organs, and several guitars in addition to the spinet. I hope she calls me for many more years! Then a floor tuning raised 60 cents to 442. I almost couldn't get the fall board screw out. Tiny, soft, easily stripped screw. GRRR. Then a new customer who's piano was only 5 cents flat, which almost never happens. I fixed her broken lid hinge. # 5 was a Richmond old upright, good initial build quality, but this is worn and pins too loose to raise 30 cents to 440. The customer was relieved the piano was worn, as she really wants to replace it down the road. I tuned it 30 cents flat for the time being.

Only 3 on Thursday, but I don't start till 1pm. I'm taking the scooter out in the morning.
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/12/10 12:39 AM

A C-7 Yamaha that's pretty tired at the University, an A B Chase upright from 1913 that must have been a great piano once (and still plays and sounds way better than it has any right to!), a Lester Grand that may have termites in a classroom at a school for underprivileged kids; a Franklin and a Shoninger BG at the school teacher's house, both in a sorry state.

A short time later, I got a call from someone with a really old piano they bought from an antique store without consulting a technician. They said it looks great, but it sounds very out of tune. Today's selection left me in no mood to wrestle with another can o' worms, so I (hopefully politely) declined.
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/12/10 07:34 AM

Missed this one, but yesterday I did 6 more at the college. M&H studio, Steinway B, 2 Boston consoles, an Everett console, and finally an old beat up D. Three more today and the 30-piano round is done! smile
Posted by: Phil D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/12/10 08:47 AM

Started regulating an evestaff miniroyal mini piano. The majority of the keys had at least half of the key dip of lost motion. Incredible! The regulating screws were quite loose, so maybe that's the reason. Took up the lost motion and the keys magically work again! Customer complained of a previous tech who said the keys needed replacing. No idea what that would have achieved. Heard stories of this guy before, he runs the only piano shop in my area. Hate to think how many pianos he's servicing that are slowly going out of whack!
Now off for a nice weekend away smile
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/12/10 10:01 PM

First piano, 90's Korean grand, filthy, pulling all kinds of debris, screws, crackers, pencils, etc. from soundboard and action. No aftertouch (many of these were delivered out of reg, and others were never put on the key banging machine so felts compressed in the home, instead of in the factory). I cleaned it, raised pitch and recommended a reg.

Number two Hamilton 401 at a church - cleaning crew was supposed to meet me out there. No one there. Called the contact, who called the cleaning crew, who had gone to get supplies. By the time they let me in, I had an hour to raise pitch 30 cents, and re pin a tight hammer flange at F3. Finished in an hour.

Number three, a small 5' or so Hardman grand. All original except for finish and key tops. Action needs a reg badly, but still a good piano. The beams were twice the size we see today.

Then, I went home and took the scooter out for an hour.

Finally, I attended the sound check for tomorrow's Beethoven piano concerto, to make sure the D I recently powered up was loud enough. It was, and the artist was very happy. I have to raise it to 442 Saturday afternoon for the concert Saturday night.
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/13/10 07:29 AM

Yesterday did some maintenance on an intermediate school Yamaha P22 (reshape hammers, vacuum interior, keys/keybed, polish/lube capstans and front/balance rail pins, remove lost motion, etc.). After that, back to the college to finish up: Baldwin Hamilton Wurlitzer console, old Steinway upright (1909), and an old Sargent grand.
Posted by: A=443

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/13/10 08:22 AM

I tuned the PLEYEL grand piano the day before yesterday. 88c was a stick.
I wanted to exchange a center pin, but there was no time. It was treated with CLP oil with that. blush

PLEYEL
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/13/10 10:36 PM

I did a careful Tunelab overpull to raise a Steinway D from 440 to 442. I started on the bass, and pulled up the unisons up as I went. It took about 45 minutes. The result was so accurate, my subsequent aural concert tuning was a breeze. Nice job Tunelab!
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/14/10 03:06 AM

Yesterday I was feeling awful, but had to drag myself to tune for the show. Today I was much better. I had invited a couple of pianists to my club for the big band dinner dance, and we had a good time. There was a special presentation for one of the members who had fought in WW2. Previously, members of the club had gotten him a replacement Purple Heart for the one that he had left on the grave of one of his buddies. Tonight he was inducted as a Chevalier of the Legion of Honour by the French Console General of San Francisco. One of my guests was greatly moved, as her brother had died in the war.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/14/10 10:26 AM

Very nice BDB. Thanks for sharing.
Posted by: rysowers

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/14/10 01:47 PM

Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT
Very nice BDB. Thanks for sharing.


Awesome! Tell us more about your club BDB! Sounds terrific!
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/14/10 01:53 PM

One of the interesting things about the award recipient is that he was drafted, and went into the 82nd Airborne with his buddies, even though he would not have been eligible, because they had a minimum height limit of 5' 6", and he is 5' 2". In order to get through the obstacle course, his buddies would throw him over the barriers. The commander saw that, and made sure that he stayed with them. He received two Bronze Stars for bravery. A little man with a big heart!

All of this was arranged by members of the club. That is why I am a member. It is a shame that so many social clubs are dying these days. There is much to be gained from belonging to one. Not to mention that we have dinner dances regularly, so we employ musicians!
Posted by: PianoTech70

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/14/10 02:11 PM

Hi, I'm a new poster... but an old tuner. One recent post asked if you have ever had a police escort.... nope, but once in my early days of tuning, back in '74-'75, tuned for a lady who asked me to tune while she was at work and the house was empty. Neighbor saw me go in unlocked back door with a tool box. Well into temperament, the cops kicked in the front door and held me at gunpoint insisting I was robbing the joint... while sitting at piano tuning?? New MO, I guess. finally got them to call lady, she staightened it out, and they were going to leave without telling her about the door they had kicked in. Almost quit tuning that day, and definitely needed a change of clothes.
Love this thread, keep it going, will join in as well.
Posted by: pppat

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/14/10 02:24 PM

I tuned a Steinway D for an all-Chopin recital by Janne Mertanen., using a slightly tweaked EBVT III.

He absolutely loved it! And so did I - the different keys really came to life in a most convincing way. Most of them where remote, too (The pieces where in B minor, Eb major, B major, C# minor, Db major and F# major.)
Posted by: Dave125

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/14/10 04:48 PM

palning down the shims in a scheidemeyer soundboard, and bought a bechstien upricht back to the workshop to recondition, needs new strings and mahogany veneer replacing on one side
Posted by: Eric Gloo

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/15/10 12:03 PM

It's not so much what I'm going to do TODAY, as what I'm going to do TONIGHT after dinner. I'm going to eat the big slice of peanut butter pie given to me by my first tuning customer this morning. Right now I'm home for lunch, and that pie will be my incentive while tuning at a school after school this afternoon - 1. Lester studio (knee board missing, one front leg missing, sits next to a hot air blower, sounds like the soundtrack to a horror movie). 2. Baldwin Hamilton (very stable instrument...while all the others in this school go completely haywire). 3. Winter spinet (in a band room practice room, recently donated...I'm told it's extremely flat...maybe never been tuned...not sure why the school took it)

Mmmmmm, peanut butter pie.
Posted by: A=443

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/18/10 11:21 AM

I went to customer's home in Kawanishi City in japan .
Posted by: SM Boone

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/18/10 08:56 PM

of note, tuned a piano set in "commons" area at college, which means dining room. Challenging! I was offered lunch, but settled for 2 cookies. YUM
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/19/10 05:02 PM


Mmmmm……. first pie then a little drive around Japan and now cookies…..I’m hungry let’s eat...
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/19/10 07:36 PM

Tuned 5 pianos in a church this morning. Arrived at 9 AM, done by noon. Lunch time. Drove to my college after that and did a concert tuning after which, I had to dismantle a pedal lyre on one of the Steinway D's to figure out where a squeaking noise was coming from along with other erroneous noises. After 2 hours of fooling around with it, completely removing the pedals etc., replacing rubber grommets and a bushing, tightening screws, aligning pedals and much more, I put it back together to again and what do you know, it worked! smile
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/19/10 08:47 PM

First a 135 cent pitch raise on a Kimball console. After that, a Yamaha P22 at a school, followed by a church Baldwin Hamilton, another church Baldwin L, and finally another Hamilton at still another church! Holy piano technician, Batman!
Posted by: DoelKees

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/19/10 10:48 PM

Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT
Tuned 5 pianos in a church this morning. Arrived at 9 AM, done by noon. Lunch time. Drove to my college after that and did a concert tuning after which, I had to dismantle a pedal lyre on one of the Steinway D's to figure out where a squeaking noise was coming from along with other erroneous noises. After 2 hours of fooling around with it, completely removing the pedals etc., replacing rubber grommets and a bushing, tightening screws, aligning pedals and much more, I put it back together to again and what do you know, it worked! smile

Every time I read your "day stories" I have to think of these old slapstick movies from the 30ies which they now usually replay at current frame rates so everything moves really fast. smile

Kees
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/20/10 08:25 AM

Five tunings in three hours? Wow...36 minutes/tuning. I can go pretty fast, but I couldn't do an accurate tuning in 36 minutes. Way to go!
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/20/10 11:00 AM


shovelled snow…yes you read that right.. snow in Vancouver this morning…… 5-6 inches…. This is not the way it is supposed to go….all the snow should be at Jerry’s place……
Posted by: PianoTech70

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/20/10 11:48 AM

Headed to the college and tuned 4, a M&H Bb grand for student recitals this weekend, a M&H upright, an new Yamaha upright, and an Everett upright. Got there about 9:30, and was done by 1. Had my daughter and a new apprentice with me, so spent some time teaching as well as tuning. The M&H grand is in serious need of a rebuild, pinblock is awful and we have patched and doped and changed pins, but the end is near. BUT, of course the money holders for the college have yet to be convinced of the need. They have been gracious enough in the last year and a half to cut a check for 3 new Yamahas (uprights) for the classrooms, so maybe we can talk turkey (sorry, tis the season) and get them to allow a rebuild. The M&H upright is a pill to tune at first, because the treble end is harder to get into balance until you know the tricks. SOOOO, I put my daughter on that (she hates it, but needs the experience) and she did quite well. She is a good little tuner and her pianos sound so sweet when she is done. She is slow yet, but that comes in time. She envies my 45 min average tuning, but I remember when I was where she is and can so sympathize. The new apprentice, Jim, is a neat guy, and has STUDIED this stuff like no one I have met before. I am impressed. He will make a very fine tuner when his skills match his studying, and that won't be too far away. Took them all out for lunch afterwards. Gotta love apprentices!!
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/20/10 02:31 PM

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Five tunings in three hours? Wow...36 minutes/tuning. I can go pretty fast, but I couldn't do an accurate tuning in 36 minutes. Way to go!


Thanks! Practice makes perfect. Of course, it certainly helped that all but 1 of the pianos were tuned exactly 1 year ago.... smile

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Every time I read your "day stories" I have to think of these old slapstick movies from the 30ies which they now usually replay at current frame rates so everything moves really fast. smile


Thanks for that too. I take it as a compliment of course!

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shovelled snow…yes you read that right.. snow in Vancouver this morning…… 5-6 inches…. This is not the way it is supposed to go….all the snow should be at Jerry’s place……


No Dan no! No snow here at all. ha Up in the 50's today again. thumb You can keep it all. I don't want any. yippie

Gee, today, I received one of those annoying calls from a client. This church is on a prearranged schedule of tuning the auditorium Yamaha in September, the 2nd week of December and once again before Easter. For obvious reasons to us, as technicians anyway, we tune it for the beginning of the church season in September. We all know that with weather and humidity changes, pianos change in both tuning and in pitch. Thus, the reason why we are tuning it again in December.

Well, this particular person is a "musician" and thinks because I tuned it on September 23, 2 months ago when the relative humidity in the church read 55-60% that today, when the humidity is reading in the upper 28% range, the piano should still be in tune. And, they insist, the BASS is out of tune with the rest of the piano. Never mind the fact that they are playing the bass using chords...... And, never mind the fact that I tried to explain it was actually the tenor section that had dropped in pitch, not the bass... And, never mind the fact that they hung up on me...

I was trying to explain that, yes, as this person had requested, (they are not the person in charge of setting up tunings, nor are they allowed to do so. They happen to be playing for a funeral which is on Tuesday) I could tune the piano today but, I do not recommend we do so. The weather is not stable yet which is why we wait until December to do the next tuning. I repeated that I do not recommend we tune the piano at this time. Look at what the weather here in Michigan has been doing since August? Hot, cold, hot, cold, warm, warm, freezing, warm... "Well, I guess we'll just have to wait then!" Click.

Boy, some people sure are inconsiderate. I should have offered to tune it and then said, oh, you are are going to be writing me a check today, are you not? And, you are willing to pay me a 50% increase for having me come out for an "emergency tuning-after hours on a Saturday" are you not? That would have really blown her socks off.

Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/20/10 04:07 PM

Laced a couple of bass strings on a church Yamaha C3 today.

Originally Posted By: Silverwood Pianos

shovelled snow…yes you read that right.. snow in Vancouver this morning…… 5-6 inches…. This is not the way it is supposed to go….all the snow should be at Jerry’s place……


Sorrrrry Dan, but Jer, RPD and I are ganging up on ya this year and forcing the snow your way...
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/20/10 04:46 PM

Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT
[quote]Five tunings in three hours? Wow...36 minutes/tuning. I can go pretty fast, but I couldn't do an accurate tuning in 36 minutes. Way to go!

Thanks! Practice makes perfect. Of course, it certainly helped that all but 1 of the pianos were tuned exactly 1 year ago.... smile


I can do it in 45 minutes, but I don't like to go that fast. It's just not enjoyable when I go that fast. I take about an hour. I like to tune a little, play a little...:)
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/20/10 11:19 PM

Speed is something I'm used too after doing it for over 36 years Loren. It does take its toll though. I have so many pianos to get tuned that it's either I had to learn how to tune faster accomplishing the same thing in less time or, do less work. I chose to do more work thus, also making more money.

I mentioned before that I am trying to slow it down to 3 a day now that I am 54 and I am trying but, that sure is hard to do when I have so many pianos needing tuning before the holidays.

I do have some days where I am tuning 3 or 4 and a couple when I am only doing two. I guess it evens itself out. Most of the time, I wind up having to cram something else in there too like I did Friday, 5 tunings, a concert tuning and then 2 hours fooling around with a Steinway D pedal lyre tearing it apart, fixing it and putting it back together again. That makes for a very long day sometimes.

I really do prefer not to tune pianos that quickly though, believe it or not. It's just hard not to continue tuning fast after doing it for so long if that makes any sense? I try to slow myself down but, it isn't easy.
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/20/10 11:24 PM

Today was the last of a series of educational family matinees. It was kind of tough tuning, as the piano was sharp, and a string broke. Since it was focussed on the piano, I consented to talk a little about it to the audience. Then off for lunch with my computer group, which I have been meeting with for many, many years.

I am working on the Baldwin instruction sheet, for those of you who asked.
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/21/10 08:00 AM

Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT
Speed is something I'm used too after doing it for over 36 years Loren. It does take its toll though. I have so many pianos to get tuned that it's either I had to learn how to tune faster accomplishing the same thing in less time or, do less work. I chose to do more work thus, also making more money.

I mentioned before that I am trying to slow it down to 3 a day now that I am 54 and I am trying but, that sure is hard to do when I have so many pianos needing tuning before the holidays.

I do have some days where I am tuning 3 or 4 and a couple when I am only doing two. I guess it evens itself out. Most of the time, I wind up having to cram something else in there too like I did Friday, 5 tunings, a concert tuning and then 2 hours fooling around with a Steinway D pedal lyre tearing it apart, fixing it and putting it back together again. That makes for a very long day sometimes.

I really do prefer not to tune pianos that quickly though, believe it or not. It's just hard not to continue tuning fast after doing it for so long if that makes any sense? I try to slow myself down but, it isn't easy.



We're about the same age (I'm 51), but you've got ten tuning years on me. I went full time in '84, so I'm at it 26 years now. I hear you about the fatigue. I will say, the CyberHammer REALLY helped out in that regard. I can spend a week doing 30 college tunings now without these 51 year old shoulder muscles complaining! smile

I hear you about the need for speed, though. My customer database is 2600 + accounts now, so for the most part, there are few tunings where I can really just sit, relax, and tune the way I would prefer; more often than not I'm fighting the clock and there's a need to get it done quicker than I would like. Like I said, I can get it done confidently in 45 minutes if I have to; I just relish the moments when I don't have to. smile

I do understand what you mean though about work habits. We develop them and then they become ingrained. On reflecting, I too see how more often than not, I'm used to working faster than I actually have to out of habit.

What I'm grateful for is having this amount of work in today's economy. Truly a blessing, and I'm sure you feel the same way!

Good for you though, 36 years in the trade and still going strong. That speaks volumes for your character, integrity, and skill; and I mean that sincerely! smile
Posted by: PianoTech70

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/21/10 08:39 AM

I agree, that tuning fast is not what I prefer, but all too often I have to pump a tuning out fast because I have to work around a college class schedule. They have 50 minute classes and I have a window to get in and out. I have been tuning since 1970, I am now 59 and my speed has really come into play in the last 15 years or so. I get calls to go to piano sales where they have 100 pianos to tune for a sale, and I can manage 8 or 10 a day if I work at it. HOWEVER, when I am on a concert piano for a quality tuning, it behooves me to slow down and check and recheck. Speed is good in some situations, and I find that I can do a good tuning in 40 minutes or less, but that is NOT what I want to be doing. I like to talk to customers and be polite as I feel I am a guest in their house, so I take time then. But the college or store sale tunings, fasten your seatbelt and hang on, we're here to get 'em done.
Had to go fix a Janssen spinet sustain pedal. The threaded rod was almost stripped, piano gets a LOT of hard use. So I had to get parts and go back a few weeks later because of customer's time schedule. She called and said the temporary fix had failed (knew it would) and when I went back with new screws and nuts, discovered instead that it was a broken trap spring, and the temp fix had held!!. Well, robbed a spring from middle pedal and ordered 3 new ones... will replace all at once. Oh well, at least I know it will be fixed for sure this time... new screws, new springs.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/21/10 02:01 PM

BDB, you should post that picture in here about the string loop you showed me for some of those that are fairly new in here and haven't seen it yet. Explain in some detail just exactly how that works because I find it fascinating myself (call me slow if you like) but I could not quite picture the thing actually at work when I saw it.

Loren & Robert, (and all)

Yes, talking with clients for me, is half of the fun. I love making them laugh, just as I enjoy placing silly pictures in that O.T topic in here just to make some of you people smile.

I have a carbon fiber tuning hammer. Light and easy to use. I also have arthritis in my right shoulder from many years of tuning. I have it in my back, neck and knee's as well.

Hey, can I count count in my years of tuning, the fact that my dad got me started tuning pipe organs, holding keys for him during the summer months when I was 10 years old and that he got me started tuning pianos after school and during the summer when I was 12? That'll make me look ever better yet! grin

Agreed, slowing down for a concert tuning is desired however, unfortunately, we have so many times where we are cramped for time there as well like say, during intermission. Or for an emergency "touch up" tuning that turns out to be pretty much a full tuning that needs to be done in 30 minutes before the concert begins and the hall fills with people. I can't count the amount of times I've been called for an emergency tuning and then told people are waiting in the wings to come in...are you about finished yet (?) after I have only been tuning for 20 minutes.

One time, they said they were lined up outside and half way around the building and up the steps into the 2nd floor waiting for me to finish and this was winter time. That evening, I cleared the auditorium of security and some VERY NOISY people so I could finish it sooner and I did, in 30 minutes so they could let people in. Nobody complained about the tuning. I knew it wasn't perfect, it couldn't be. It was to badly out for that to happen and a concert tuning? Well, let's say, I worked hardest on pure unison's which is one of the most important steps in tuning besides setting the pins.

I raised my rates this past year by $20 to eliminate certain brands and so that I could possibly work smarter, not harder. I have had no complaints at all but for the price shoppers who are never happy regardless of what we were to charge. There is always someone out there willing to do it for less. 90% of the time, their quality also suffers. They can have it.

Yes, you are right, those of us that are busy as a beaver are truly blessed alright. It is our integrity, honesty, timeliness, ethics and quality that keep us going strong over much of the competition I spoke of in my last paragraph. Even though they may charge 50% less of what I charge, they are still only booked a day if they are lucky.

Tomorrow, will be one of those days for me again. I have a 9 AM tuning, a Petrof grand in a home. I have to drop my son off to a church to tune a lovely Kimblah 6' something grand that likes to break bass wires. While he does that, I have to go and tune a new client, in another home. She has a Bosendorfer 7'4" I think she said. She was referred to me by 2 people out there. They live a good 40 minutes from my house. From there, I have to go back to the church, check out the piano my son tuned, fix the notes that are "almost right but not quite" and then out for a fast lunch. Then, I have another home piano a Wurlitzer spinet, to tune after which, at 4 PM, I have two Kawai grand's an RX- 3 and a RX -6 if I remember right. It will be a long day however, I am also charging $20 more per tuning than my regular fee to cover the long distance I will have to travel tomorrow.

Without my son tuning at least two of these pianos tomorrow saving me probably an hour or two (I hope), I would not be able to complete that particular day. I'd be in total pain and misery by day's end from the stress of being on time, getting it done, doing a good job, the concentration and final end result. I am not really looking forward to it to be honest with you.....

Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/21/10 02:20 PM

Well, I did the Baldwin thing for today, that will have to suffice. I will try to put together better instructions for making the loops, but it may take a few days.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/21/10 02:38 PM

Wonderful BDB, thanks!!!
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/21/10 05:37 PM

Jerry,

Early morning for me tomorrow, too. I need to be case-open at 8:00 AM at a convent for two tunings. I have a total of 5 to do tomorrow.

Yeah, colleges....the pre-semester tunings in August are always pretty easy since no one is in the building. There are no classes to work around, etc., so I can go at an efficient, but comfortable pace without having to worry about a class come in just as I'm starting the treble break!
Posted by: RPD

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/21/10 08:25 PM

Originally Posted By: Les Koltvedt
Laced a couple of bass strings on a church Yamaha C3 today.

Originally Posted By: Silverwood Pianos

shovelled snow…yes you read that right.. snow in Vancouver this morning…… 5-6 inches…. This is not the way it is supposed to go….all the snow should be at Jerry’s place……


Sorrrrry Dan, but Jer, RPD and I are ganging up on ya this year and forcing the snow your way...


Yeah...that was the three of us Saturday night with our Druid cloaks standing on top of that hill, intoning and incanting in your general direction. Hope you understand.

RPD
Posted by: PianoTech70

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/21/10 09:48 PM

Boy do I understand that emergency tuning in ten minutes thing. We had Neilson and Young piano duo at the college and the college brought in a Steinway 9' to match to the Baldwin 9' and they had to be tuned together 5 times in 3 days. Then the last evening they were there they had a big concert and I had to go out at intermission an brush up some notes, in front of how many noisy people standing talking. Felt like I should have been wearing a tux too... but the duo remarked to me before I left how nicely the pianos were tuned and thanked me for my efforts and time. Made me feel great. They could have been like so many others who think of our job as slave labor for the elite. Instead, I left feeling really proud of my work.
In my opinion, the most valuable tool I own is my integrity and honesty. Nothing can substitute for being the best you can as a person, doing the best you can as a tuner, and standing by your reputation to make sure things are right.
My apprentices help me a lot too, like your son does, Jerry. So often, they can be put on a job and get the most of it done and I just go back and in the gentle spirit of teaching, correct the problems and make it right, while helping them know they are doing good. Great teaching opportunities!
I use a craftsman lever, have for years, because of the lightness of the tool, I have others of course, but like that best. I never change the head, as I find the setup I use works in all situations so far. I do use a very short stubby hammer for grands, one of the AMS brand mini extention hammers... like the Schaaf mini. Don't even know if they still carry them, I think maybe not. This small hammer is not much bigger than my fist, but works great for grands for me. Most tuners I know think I am nuts for doing it that way, but hey, if it works, why not. I have an entire tuning kit, mutes, mini hammer, screwdriver, quartz tuner and all in a canvas bag that is maybe 8" long and as big around as a coffee cup. I like to watch people's eyes when I do a quick concert touch up and I unload this thing to do the job. They wonder where my tool bag is and I say "it is right here". After all, the tuner's number one tool kit is himself!
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/22/10 06:24 PM

Strung bass strings in 2 more pianos today, two in a U1 and one in a S&S O. Then came home and practiced tuning on my old S&S V
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/22/10 07:59 PM

Steinway grand, Kimball grand, Baldwin grand, Story & Clark (made by Yamaha) grand, and an old Gordon upright. Nice day!
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/22/10 09:49 PM

Got my day completed. Drove 109 miles too. First appointment, nobody home. 15 minutes later, here comes the owner. Then, I tuned a Petrof grand.

Get this! When I went to put my shoes back on, one shoe was missing!! I said to my son, is it just me, or, is one of my shoes gone? They were amongst many other pairs of shoes there. He said, it's gone dad. They have no animals so, it couldn't have been that. I saw one of his shoes setting there and got to thinking. naaaaaaaaaaawww, he didn't??? I thought he took one of my shoes and one of his. We decided to venture into his bedroom on a whim because my son said he saw him walking into the bedroom carrying something. I'll be danged if we didn't find MY shoe in his bedroom closet!!! Now, there's a first! A shoe thief! smile

Went to the church next. Doors locked. Pastor not home. Sat in the car wondering, now what? Is this the way the day is going to be? 15 minutes later, someone happens to walk into the pastor's house so, I hollered HEY!!!!!! They looked and I got into the church. I set my son up in the church to tune the Kimblah 6' grand.

Next, I went and tuned a 7'5" Bosendorfer, sweet piano. She hadn't had it tuned since 2004 and it was still at A/442. Returned to the church, finished tuning the piano my son started. Went to lunch then right back to the church to tune the pastor's piano. Let my son tune part of it while I watched and then took over to get it done. Had 45 minutes to kill after that before I could get at the 2 pianos in the school at 4 PM.

The choir piano was a Yamaha C-3. I have given them an estimate to replace hammers, shanks, flanges, regulation and much more, the hammers were shot. Flat as pancakes. The school, deemed it "necessary" to "bid out" to another "tooner" for a lower bid. Of course, this jackass was about 1/2 my price and so they took it. And, of course, they are very unhappy with the piano and rightly so. The hammers are still flat, they are bumpy all over the place including the strike point. The regulation is way off, so far so that it has no after touch let alone let off. The let off is hitting the strings. Dampers are sticking like mad. The guide rail bushings need to be replaced. They are all gummed up. The pedal lyre is coming unglued. Took out the action, removed a bunch of crap and dirt. Fixed the pedal lyre, the pedal support rods were completely out of place. Lubricated (Proteked) the damper guide rail bushings for a quick fix for now.

Then, let my son tune that piano while I tuned the stage piano which was a Kawai Rx-6. Returned after that and finished tuning the Yamaha.

Boy, that was worth while for them to go with the lowest bidder wasn't it? Now it's going to cost them even more yet to fix what this jackass screwed up. Boy, I sure do wish people would realize that bidding work out to the lowest bidder is not all it is cracked up to be when it comes to piano tuning and repairing.

It's one thing to price shop when looking for a product. It's a completely different ball game when you start price shopping for someone's service and for quality.

There, I'm done ranting for now...
Posted by: Dave Stahl

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/22/10 11:53 PM

Taking the week off (except for phone calls). I'm hangin' with my 10 year old son, cleaning house, and enjoying my latest time-sink, on-line chess....I warn you, don't get started!

One job this week, a M and H B (not a BB, but a 5-something grand with a big sound). Other than that, it's pretty kicked back. The first time I've ever taken this week off, and it feels good!

I'll pay for this next week...
Posted by: Eric Gloo

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/23/10 05:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT
Had 45 minutes to kill after that before I could get at the 2 pianos in the school at 4 PM.


Now Jerry, instead of killing time, you could have tuned 2 more pianos in that slot! crazy
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/23/10 06:41 PM

Tuned a Yamaha C3, man is that thing bright... almost hurts the ears.
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/23/10 06:45 PM

Jerry, you killed time?? :p

Let's see...today I started with a newer small Hobart M. Cable grand in a church, then a Charles Walter vertical in another church. From there, went to a Steinway O and did reshaping/voicing, vacuuming, soundboard cleaning, some light regulating, and tuned. That was a nice job and I was quite pleased with the end result. From there, went to another home and found an old stencil grand with tuning pins too loose to hold; scheduled the repair work for that one after Christmas.

And finally, (drum roll please), lowered a nice fairly new Baldwin L to A435. All in a day's work!
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/23/10 07:06 PM

Originally Posted By: Loren D
And finally, (drum roll please), lowered a nice fairly new Baldwin L to A435. All in a day's work!
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Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/23/10 07:35 PM

Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT
I'll be danged if we didn't find MY shoe in his bedroom closet!!! Now, there's a first! A shoe thief! smile



Ha Ha, Jerry, I've had maids and dogs steal my shoes. One dog chewed on it - it was a newer pair too! Slip on loafers are the rule with me. It took deep snow up north for me to get the boots out, because of the hassle putting boots on and off.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/23/10 09:01 PM

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Jerry, you killed time?? :p


YA! And, today, tuned 3 this morning. Got started at around 9:30. Between looking for the blasted lights which I finally found, and then fiddling around trying to figure out how to shut them back out again, there went 30 minutes and, waiting for nobody to show up again before I realized, I had a key in my bag for the church, 20 more minutes. Heah, getting old SUCKS. But. I was still out of there by noon.

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Now Jerry, instead of killing time, you could have tuned 2 more pianos in that slot! crazy


Coulda woulda shoulda. NOT! hahaha.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/24/10 04:46 PM

Ha haaaa! I to do another two posts in a row..

1. Today, tuned a nice Yamaha P202 that I've been tuning like clockwork since the piano was new in 1980. I regulated it, filed hammers, leveled keys, mated hammers to strings and strings to hammers and did some voicing back in May of this year. Came out great and still sounded good but was a little bit flat so, I raised it to pitch.

2. Tuned a Samick console. Raised 1/4-1/2 tone to 440. She was complaining about 4 notes that were not playing and said it has always been that way. The last tuner said, that's just the way some verticals are. Well, I found one of the hammers had popped out and had lodged itself between these other ones. Like DUH! The last person never bothered to tighten the butt plate screws in the back, like ever! I removed the action, tightened everything, put the hammer back in and all's well that ends well.

3. Tuned a Yamaha C-7.

4. Tuned a Yamaha P22.

5. All done! Bigggg boooooy!!
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/24/10 06:08 PM

Kimball spinet, George Steck (older) console, Acrosonic spinet, and a Story & Clark console.

Now, on with Thanksgiving!!
Posted by: Roy Rodgers

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/24/10 08:52 PM

Welllll, today was the last day of my full time job. (Auto parts sales) Gave my notice in October. Next week I get back to work at tuning and repairing pianos like I want to do. Sink or swim, gotta go after it.

Already have work lined up for my first week so maybe things will be okay. Had to take a job for a bit when the economy went south. But my work lately has picked back up to the point I can make it on my own.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/24/10 09:41 PM

That's good to hear Roy. Good luck!
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/24/10 10:29 PM

Good luck and best wishes, Roy!
Posted by: James Carney

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/30/10 10:20 AM

Yesterday I tuned a new Blüthner Model 2 (in a custom Pyramid Mahogany veneer that is spectacular), a new Kawai K5, a new Blüthner Model 4, and, after hunting down the source of a clicking noise, reglued a slightly loose catcher shank on a '74 Kawai that is definitely approaching the end of its musical life.

Nothing like tuning a Blüthner - the feel of the pins in the block is perfect, and the consistency of the pin tightness they achieve at the factory is extraordinary. There never seems to be even one pin that is even the slightest bit looser or tighter than the others. I also think that Bösendorfer achieves an exceptional consistency in this regard. (If only our beloved vintage Baldwins had pinblocks with these same characteristics!)

I'm had the chance to tune quite a few Blüthners with the aliquot strings - they are fascinating and add a beautiful dimension to the overall sound of the treble - and if you don't get them just right, you'll easily hear it! Especially on Models 1 and 2, the aliquot string effect is quite audible.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 11/30/10 05:53 PM

Yesterday tuned a 75 year old Gulbransen console that is still going very strong. Mostly due to the fact that this lady has tuned it pretty much yearly and has work done when required. It has a great tone yet. Then, I tuned a Story & Clark console with loose tuning pins but, holding. Barely. Number 3 was a Yamaha GH1 grand and an Everett studio built in South Haven Mi.

Today, I tuned 5. A Yamaha console, an Everett grand built by Yamaha, a Schimmel upright, a Petrof studio, an older Wurlitzer studio. Went out for lunch at around 1:00 PM when we were finished for the day. smile
Posted by: PianoTech70

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/01/10 02:47 PM

Tuned 3 yesterday and looked at a repair job some other "technician" hammered. Tuned a 9' Baldwin grand for the college, and a Knabe upright in a classroom there. Training an apprentice at the same time I might add. He is doing quite well, proud of him, nice fella and great to talk to. Not smart mouth, and intelligent, yet only 24. Nice kid. Any way, left the college and tuned a Yamaha grand, G1 that has a humidity system installed. The piano is super nice and has not been tuned for a year, this time last year actually, and was still in need of only a good brushing. The humidity system is a plus for sure. The previous tuner for that piano messed it up so badly, that they fired him and called to college to find me. then I went to another church up the road from there, same "tech" and he is still at it there. The keys were sticking, notes didn't play, the voicing was the worst I have ever heard... one treble octave so muffled and soft that you could hardly tell the pitch, and others so bright your teeth hurt. They wanted me to evaluate the piano. O opened it up (yamaha c5) and the sights I beheld...
Well, there were several newer hammershanks, like 6-8, and most were the wrong ones. One had the end of the flange cut off to make it fit. That one had the hammer on crooked and it rubbed against the next hammer... thus sticky keys. But there was so little left of the flange, that I could not tighten it an dmake it hold. Had to put a shim in between the flanges to keep it straight. Would have liked to replace the shank, but so much damage done, thatthis would have been a waste of time in light of other issues. The hammers were filed flat-topped, and some were like bricks, others voiced to a fuzzy cottonball surface. The top hammer had been broken off, and laying inside. I can almost guarantee the damage was done by pulling the action out with keys depressed, snapping them off. Such a shame and so avoidable. I suggested new hammers, new shanks, a regulation, and FIRE THAT TECH!!! We'll see what happens. They complained of the piano having a thin jangly sound even after this stinker had "tuned" it. Yeah, knowing his work and hearing this piano just tuned 3 weeks ago, the thin sound and jangly noises could be corrected if the piano was properly tuned and maintained. The tuning was awful and the the tech was doing them no favors.
Today, tuned a white Yamaha c5 that hadn't been tuned since last year some time, and still just needed a brush-up. BTW, there were keys sticking, a pencil in the action. Wonderful piano and a huge voice. I have a Harriman grand to do this evening, needs lots of work, and I am looking a bigger grand of decent quality for them to replace it.
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/01/10 04:17 PM


Got nailed on the freeway for going too fast; who ever heard of such a thing….. so the guy goes around the vehicle and ends up tapping on the passenger window.

I leaned over and opened the door; then I asked “do you need a ride? I can get you there in a hurry!”

He started laughing; said that was the best one he has heard in a while. Looked at my licence; gave me the attitude speech; let me go…..145 in a 90 zone…..wooopppppeeeeee I’m free!!

Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/01/10 06:05 PM

Originally Posted By: Silverwood Pianos

Got nailed on the freeway for going too fast; who ever heard of such a thing….. so the guy goes around the vehicle and ends up tapping on the passenger window.

I leaned over and opened the door; then I asked “do you need a ride? I can get you there in a hurry!”


LOL good one! You have 90 MPH zones? 65 is the max here.

Today I did a Yamaha P2 in a church, then an old DuoArt mini-player. From there, an older Kawai grand on stage in a theater, then a trip to a historical society to do a very old Hughes upright. Finished off with a 70's vintage Hamilton at a convent. Nice full day! Horrible weather, though..cold and rainy all day.
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/01/10 06:07 PM


My mistake.... that is kilometers. 80km=50mph

145 is around 90mph

Got some tuning done too in between; 4 UST 7's and a RX-2
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/01/10 07:05 PM

Yesterday started worked with a mentor on regulating a S&S M action. Learn while you earn is a great thing..lol
Posted by: Eric Gloo

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/02/10 06:53 PM

It's been an all-American piano week for me so far. Steinways and Baldwins, exclusively, for Thursday and Friday. Among the notables: a Steinway "B", Steinway "CB", Steinway "L"...and a nice little 1942 Acrosonic, in which my father installed new bass strings and hammers "a while ago".
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/02/10 07:26 PM


Always nice to experience the local crowd once in a while.
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/02/10 07:56 PM

6 today. Mason & Hamlin A, older model Story & Clark console (of which I'm writing a separate thread about), Gulbransen console, Janssen spinet, Brentwood console, and a Yamaha GH1. Nice, busy day!
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/02/10 08:13 PM

Just a Yammy G1 in a church and the lights were being rewired, so once again I find myself in the mushroom effect... in the dark.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/02/10 08:21 PM

Quote:
145 is around 90mph


I love speed! I got stopped a few days ago doing 50 in a 30 zone but, he let me off too!

Tuned a Yamaha grand, raised 1/4 tone. Removed the action, regulated the damper stop rail. Spaced many hammers over, hitting 2 notes when soft pedal was used and also regulated the treble cheek block screw for same. Tightened action screws on it too.

Tuned a Story & Clark studio. Been tuning this piano every December for 35 years.

Tuned an Everett console for a 90 year old woman and her 86 year old husband. Nice people. Raised it 1/4 tone to pitch. Nice piano too. They talked my ears off but, that's okay. We had some really good laughs.

HAH! Got my desired 3 done today!
Posted by: PianoTech70

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/03/10 04:04 PM

Tuned a Baldwin Acrosonic today, that I tuned maybe 3 times in 2 1/2 years. The last time it was starting to really come around, a previous tuner would come and tune half this time and in 3 months tune the next half, and then maybe the middle half one time or the ends next time. Needless to say, it was considered to be a lost cause because it didn't hold a tune (tuner's words)and "needed junked". (wondering what or who really needed junked.... hmmm?) They called me, and today, it was just some unisons out and a few loose pins, and it has not been tuned for almost a year. Not bad for a "junk" piano. Sounds good, holding a tune, and they are tickled. Had a no show, I and my appentice both heard her say "1:30", but she insisted she said "3:30". Oh well, squeezed her in tomorrow. She teaches at the college, so I cut her some extra slack... a good friend, but we still didn't make connections today.
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/03/10 08:07 PM

Worked on a S&S M full regulation in the store today.
Posted by: Eric Gloo

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/03/10 09:11 PM

Tuned and cleaned a Steinway L this morning for a great local piano teacher. The tunings have become rock solid ever since I upgraded the Dampp-Chaser climate system and installed an undercover. Pitch used to vary a lot, but no more, which is nice for me and for her. We like to talk a lot, too...which is fun...and it gives me a break...so I always schedule a whole morning for that visit.

Then onto a school after school for 2 concert tunings. I should have saved the Steinway B for last, but I didn't. Did that first. It's from 1916 and had a complete rebuild about 20 years ago. Someone donated it to the school when the new school was built...a joy to play.

After that, a Baldwin Hamilton on the stage. The lights were buzzing and the custodians had put the piano on twin dollies, but didn't attach them to the piano, so they dig into the case...and the whole things rocks forward and back when tuning. It's a worn-out, bright, loud piano, but they use it because it sounds good with the jazz band. It kinds of sounds like a circus...all that was missing with this tuning was the monkey with the clashing cymbols. Oh, wait...that was me!
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/03/10 10:18 PM

When they don't attach the dollies and the piano rocks, I always make a note in writing on the invoice about the danger of it tipping, especially in school pianos. I always worry the piano will tip over on a kid, and I don't want any liability for that! The other common thing I see is dollies attached at the rear only, and nothing secured underneath.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/03/10 10:47 PM

Tuned a nice Yamaha console for the first appointment.

Tuned an Everett Spinet. They lady could not find anyone that can make her happy. I take notes when people are talking to me on the phone or off from the messages they leave. In her message, she mentioned 2 sticking keys and some buzzing and rattling. Today, she mentioned that she could not get the keys to stick nor, could I so, that one is moot for now. She did not mention the buzz again.

I will be placing a separate topic on the problem and solution for the buzz.

Then, I tuned a Yamaha P22, raised it 1/4 tone, tightened the hammer flanges, adjusted pedals.

Next, I tuned a Young Chang studio. Regulated lost motion only in the tenor section, regulated the pedals and was done for the day. Went out to dinner with the wife.
Posted by: PianoTech70

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/04/10 07:57 AM

Hey, the best part of the day.. going out to dinner with the wife... worth tuning all day to get that chance!
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/04/10 01:25 PM

After reading Jer Groots thread about the action bracket...yesterday I had a rebuilt S&S K with a sticky C#5, would hang at full stroke...but only sometimes. You could feel a real strong detent at letoff. Played around with it, dropped the action back to have a look, maybe a loose screw or something. Put the action back in and only put the two middle retaining nuts on and the key worked real nice. Tighten the last action bracket nut at the treble end and the strong detent would come back. Ended up backing the action bracket stud on the treble end out 1/2 turn.
Posted by: PianoTech70

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/04/10 02:10 PM

Just tuned a super nice Yamaha grand for one of the teachers at the college. I tuned it a year ago, and it was still smack on. Such a beautiful sound, and they paid me and included a tip "for Christmas". Wow, get to tune and play a great piano and get paid with a tip to boot, gee, how good can it get?
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/04/10 08:15 PM

While I tuned 5 pianos on Friday, my daughter, a freshman in high school rescued a baby squirrel who's leg was impaled on a thorn. The poor thing was hanging upside down by it's leg, crying for help. It's eyes are not open yet, so it's about 4 weeks old. She's feeding it and when it's ready, we'll let it go. One of my customer's has a pet squirrel, so they can be domesticated, but my wife isn't having any of that! Here's a pic at feeding time!



To top off the afternoon, she watched a water moccasin slither in the front of our house. I'm going to have to take a look for it, in case it chose to make a home in our yard, instead of in the marsh.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/04/10 10:27 PM

YIPES! Snakes!!! I HATE SNAKES!!!!!! Bum knee or not, I RUN! RUN RUN RUN RUN RUUUUUUUNNN!
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/05/10 06:49 AM

Right behind you Jer, you don't have to know what kind of snakes are poisonous or not, justleave em all alone. snakes are icky.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/08/10 02:40 PM

Snakes are icky and ugly. They look like they're ready to eat you alive or chew you to death.

Today, I tuned for the nicest customer. We are also email buddies. Sending forwards back and forth. She owns a nice Kawai GS-30. The piano tunes up great and always sounds so nice when I'm done. Plus, she always sets up her church pianos for me twice a year = 6 tunings and, recommends me to others so I always give her a big discount AND, she makes me banana bread. 2 loaves no less! Are you jealous??? MMMM! I love that stuff!!

Then, tuned 3 in her church. A Kawai UST-6, nice piano. Kawai grand, KG-2C, another great piano. We rebuilt it in 2004. Then, did some more regulation on it in the spring of this year. Great piano. Then tuned a Story & Clark studio.

Yesterday, tuned a Hamilton grand, haven't seen one of these in a while. Raised it 1/4-1/2 tone to 440. Needs work. Has great potential but, unfortunately, I hear the same ole story from this one... Kids in college, no money... Good enough for me to play on etc... OK. Wait longer and replace the hammers instead, I'm good with that too.

Then, tuned 4 in a church. All Yamaha's!

Tomorrow, tuning 1 home, 2 at my college, replacing 2 broken bass wires on a Kawai RX-6 and then tuning a Yamaha U3 in one of the dorms at the college.

Friday, tuning 7 pianos.

How goes your week so far?
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/08/10 05:40 PM

Tuning a Story & Clark Thursday morning and a store pitch & tune on a Kimball console. Had a regulation mentoring session this afternoon. It's getting there...slow and steady, lol
Posted by: Bill Bremmer RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/08/10 08:15 PM

Tuned a Kawai studio in a gym for a choir concert while basketball practice was going on. Ear plugs and an ETD made that possible along with 4 decades of experience knowing that if it has to be done now, it has to be done and not to complain about it. The piano needed a pitch raise, so it was a double tuning in all three sections as I would expect at this time of year, yet it still only took 45 minutes. If I had balked at the situation, I would have lost my fee and probably the account as well. I actually enjoyed taking a few short breaks to stretch my back and watch the kids shoot hoops.
Posted by: RPD

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/08/10 08:54 PM

Did a Steinway D in an auditorium for tomorrow night show...last minute, and oh by the way notes and dampers are sticking. Luckily, it was the keyslip pushing against keys...easy fix...raised 6C to 440...ET this time...

Tuned two church pianos, and one house Yamaha U Series...did a short service call for free as a followup to correct another "sticking" key, and the client was happy to have that quarter back. (not Quarterback, Quarter back)

Put on 125 miles today...stopped at Guitar Center and marveled that the place is filled with 20 year old kids. The only purchases I witnessed in the 1/2 hour I waas there were by middle aged folks...one with a pony tail, one with small children by her side, and me. 6 inch guitar cords suitable for recording and performance are $22 each. Who knew...

Home at 8:45pm...working with Jane in the shop until 11pm. Trying to finish a pump organ for a family by the 18th. I have time to write this while the coffee brews!

Such are my simple facts.

RPD
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/08/10 09:53 PM

4 spinets, 4 pitch raises. Next I'll probably get a jury duty summons.
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/16/10 08:24 AM

Yesterday a Kohler & Campbell console, a 100+flat. Been up north for the last 5 years... alone with no heat. But can this girl play, 89yrs old. Sat down and chatted over a cup of coffee.. is this really work?
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/16/10 12:52 PM

Yesterday, a Stroud upright, not too bad after about three years and a move. Then a pre-surgery appointment for my wife. Today, an old Steinway, followed by the Christmas dinner at my club with the other members I have sponsored. I have not seen one of them since he became police chief of one of the cities around here, as I figured he would be pretty busy, but I called him and he thought he should come. Tomorrow is the surgery.
Posted by: Jeff Clef

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/16/10 01:12 PM

I'll be hoping for the very best outcome and recovery for your wife, BDB. Sure, she has no clue who I am, but what could it hurt.

I have some idea how she must be feeling; I'm scheduled for a knee replacement job in a few weeks. Sure, it's good; better than not doing it. But then again...

Anyway, good thoughts.
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/16/10 04:02 PM

Monday tuned 7. 4 in one church, 3 in another. 3 Yamaha's, an Everett grand, Baldwin studio, 2 Everett studios.

Tuesday tuned 6. A 9' Baldwin concert grand that needs rebuilding. R 1/4-1/2-440, did some repairs and other junk. Tuned a Hundai grand. PSO. Yamaha & Charles Walter studio, Everett studio, Young Chang grand. Put on 160 miles Monday and Tuesday.

Wed: Screwed up. Double booked. Secretary scheduled them for 2 weeks ago and I scheduled the same church for yesterday. Found out the night before. Fine by me! Tuned 2 yesterday. A Steinway M and a Howard grand. Another PSO.

Today, tuned 4. Steinway M, S&C studio, Kawai console, Schimmel studio. Put on another 60 miles.

Tomorrow, only tuning 2 again! Yippee! Two more Yamaha grands. Then going out to lunch with the head person at my college. I start tuning there next week and will be there for the next 3 weeks straight.
Posted by: DoelKees

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/16/10 09:58 PM

My first concert tuning. I tuned in a mild version of Bach's temperament with FA around 4.5 bps. It sounded great and the pianist and the choir were both happy!

Kees
Posted by: SM Boone

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/16/10 10:05 PM

Cleared snow from car and went out, nice L Baldwin in neighborhood, so I could walk home if necessary. Went to ABC store, had some problems getting up ramp so exited. Not much open here, glad we had supplies.
Posted by: Dennis Kelvie

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/17/10 12:23 AM

Tuned a little knabe grand that had a jack that would not come back under the knuckle on one key in the middle of the keyboard. The "stop" on the jack was a flimsy little platform in the front of a very thin wire. Where it went into the wood there was a crack. The tiny platform was out of alignment. Showed it to the owner who showed it to her friend who then proceeded to "fix it" into several pieces (not on purpose). Owner asked if I could steal a part from another key to fix that key. I did. Had originally thought of applying a bit of glue and coming back to it, but oh well. . .

I HATE doing stuff like that, but one must do what one must do, I suppose. . .
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/17/10 10:44 PM

The surgery went well today. My wife should be home tomorrow.
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/18/10 08:14 AM

BDB, that's good news. smile glad everything went well.
Posted by: Roy Rodgers

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/21/10 10:09 PM

Tuned a Kimball Grand Piano in a church today that was built in 1924 according to the serial number. Not sure of the overall length but was at least a 7 footer.

Obvious lots of work had been done in the last few years since it had new tuning pins and strings. New looking flanges and hammers.

Beautiful grand, black in color. Played well and sounded good. Lots of unisons needed tweaking. But when I inspected the piano closer I found the treble bridge was breaking out around the pins and allowing the pins to move. That's why the unisons are moving out of tune.

Then went out on the country where the creepy crawlers lived to tune and old Newman Bros Upright. While I tuned I would have to reglue jacks to the whippens. Not many, but enough to slow me down a little.

From there went to another house out in the boonies to tune a Chickering spinet. Supposed to be there at 3pm, got there at 3pm and no one home. Grrrrr.

45 miles back home.

On the bright side, my son is home for a few days for Christmas and he and his wife and daughter came in. He has to be back in Groton, CT soon though to finish his training at the naval base there, then they move to Bangor, Washington.

Other than the one "Grrrr" today has been a good day.
Posted by: Beckerman

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/21/10 11:12 PM

I did 3 today. One freebie for a nursing home---but it was 40 miles away, harumph, oh well. Then a nice older Gulbransen grand for the masons. To finish up===an older Wurlitzer spinet--last tuned in April 1970. needless to say, that one took quite a while. Maybe a little less than 40yrs between tunings please!!
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/23/10 08:10 AM

At #2 the gate was locked. No door bell. I knocked and yelled for 10 min. Phone was busy. Townhouse - no access to windows or back yard. I left a note and went to tune my Dad'a Steinway. Sure enough.....1/2 hour later the phone rings....where are u? Well i can come back in January.....Merry Xmas!

Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/23/10 11:07 AM

Bob. Ha ha ha ha! Love your response!!!! I had a gated entry once, the wife didn't bother to inform the husband that I was coming. Total surprise to him. This was a long time ago, several years back.

I rang the buzzer... Yes? Hi, Jerry Groot here, to tune the piano. WHO? Jerry Groot here, to tune the piano. "We don't have an appointment." Yes, we do. "Who are you?" Getting aggitated now, Jerry Groot... Silence. Is so and so there? (Wife) "No, she's not available at this time." Well, she made an appointment with me for today and 11 AM to tune the piano. She obviously didn't tell you huh? "Obviously and I'm reluctant to just let you in." Well, that's understandable but, how often Mr so and so, do you have someone buzz your phone telling you that he is a piano tuner, like, maybe NEVER? So, do you suppose that I am actually legit? Silience... Helloooo? Hey, let me in or I'm leaving and you can have your wife mad at you later for not letting me in for the party she wanted the piano tuned for on x date. OH, you must be for real if you know about that! Alright, come on in then. bbbbzzzzzzzzzz. Before I arrived to the front door, he had gotten ahold of his wife on her cell phone only to find out, hey, this guy is for real after all! I'm glad I let you in, he said. My wife was realllllly PISSED off at me on the telephone! I laughed and said, yeah, ME TOO, thanks! To which, he also then laughed!

Hey, guess what I'm doing this week and next? I think..... I just see a phone call came in from a church via caller ID... Bet they want it tuned before Christmas or something... I'm (supposed to be) on vacation until the end of the year! First time in probably 30 years I've been able to do this! YIPEEEEEEEEEEE!
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/23/10 11:32 AM

P.S. Lucky me! They were calling about a bill that they said was paid but, was never cashed. We chuckled about it. I said, won't be the last time something got lost in the mail...
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/23/10 11:49 AM

Ah, had to come home and fix all the typos in my last post. Posted that while getting a root canal. I've decided to quit tuning and focus on an alternate treatment for root canals. I'll post again when I'm rich..........
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/23/10 11:50 AM

See you again then in 15 years Bob! grin
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/23/10 12:41 PM

I've chosen the alternative to a root canal twice now. Yank 'em. A few more and I will look like a jack-o-lantern!
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/23/10 02:33 PM

Funny Jeff!!!
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/23/10 09:48 PM

And the temporary crown fell out this afternoon! I thought about super gluing it back in place, but decided against it. A google search said use dental adhesive as suggested below, so I'll try that Friday and hopefully save a trip back to the dentist.
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/23/10 09:58 PM

You should get some denture adhesive and put it back in, so your teeth will not move in to fill the gap. My dentist would expect me to call him at home for something like that. Actually, he would probably call me to make sure everything was okay. (I first went to his father over 50 years ago, and he is in the same place.)
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/23/10 10:47 PM

Four pitch raises, but now I'm done till Tuesday. smile
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/23/10 11:24 PM

Quote:
And the temporary crown fell out this afternoon!


Sorry Bob but,
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/24/10 06:52 AM

Originally Posted By: BDB
You should get some denture adhesive and put it back in, so your teeth will not move in to fill the gap. My dentist would expect me to call him at home for something like that. Actually, he would probably call me to make sure everything was okay. (I first went to his father over 50 years ago, and he is in the same place.)


Sounds like my Dentist, I use to ride my bike to see his Dad in the same office. He reminded me of Andy Griffith.
Posted by: Bob

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/24/10 09:27 PM

Originally Posted By: Jerry Groot RPT
Quote:
And the temporary crown fell out this afternoon!


Sorry Bob but,


Just for that, Jer, Santa is picking you up and bringing you here to help tune at the U next week. Haa Haa. I did get the darn thing glued back in.......for now......
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/24/10 10:51 PM

Oh boy! My vacation has ended! frown But, NOT before Santa brings me my presents!!!! smile
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/25/10 10:07 AM


Took time to enjoy the morning……… and think about how lucky I am to have this great job where I get invited into people’s homes and join them in one of the focal points of their lives; music appreciation and learning to play music.

Now? Off to start the inventory count and then the yearend accounting process…………
Posted by: Roy Rodgers

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/25/10 12:01 PM

Watched as my family opened their gifts. My wife,

Youngest girl is 9. Middle girl is 12.

My 22 year old son goes back to Groton, CT to finish his training in the Navy, then to Washington State.

Didn't get to see him today, but had him two days ago overnight.

Merry Christmas everyone.
Posted by: PianoTech70

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/25/10 09:40 PM

Replaced keytops on an old Wurly spinet, came out nice. used the opportunity to teach apprentices how to do it, and it made for a pleasant chore, as they helped and made the work much quicker and easier. Then went to look at a Krakaur grand.. maybe a 6 1/2 footer and early vintage. Other tuners said it was not repairable, and could not be tuned, just junk it. Well, it had a nice voice and was WAY out of tune. Pins somewhat loose, but the real issue was underneath. The frame supports are made of 2 boards glued together... like heavy 2x4s in size. The glue had given up and the boards on all three supports had separated, one so severely as to separate horizontally and vertically. The piano was unstable. The pins that hold the plate in place fasten into these supports right at the joint of the two boards. SO, the piano harp is, at least at one support, not secured. The boards can be reglued and pulled back into place easy enough, and the harp supports reset. The owner either wants to repair and keep or perhaps sell. But in either case, I told him the support work needs to done before it is attempted to be moved or it will be just junk with a broken harp. Gave him a reasonable price for the job, would require 2-3 trips of 60 miles to get it done, piece at a time. Waiting to hear. Pretty sure the work will come my way as most other tuners have just run screaming from this work. Ha, I've handled worse. Christmas tunings kept me busy this year. A local church just purchased a 1939 Steinway from an aunt of one of its members and I had to tune it before last Wednesday. The piano tuned right up, and have to schedule a regulating day to go over the action, but not till after the new year. Time off till then, and then I start the college pianos.
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/29/10 06:13 PM

I think I found the motor for my piano moving truck...

Piano Hauler
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/29/10 06:26 PM

Man there are enough blowers on that thing to choke a horse.....I am wondering if it is 3000BHP...gotta have a pretty tough truck frame to not buckle under that kind of power.....

I didn't know that ZZtop was building motors...
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/29/10 06:28 PM

I have one of those on my snowblower. That is why the streets are always clear around here. New York City, eat your heart out!
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/29/10 06:30 PM

ROFLMAO on the two replys... thumb
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/29/10 07:12 PM


Yes when BDB fires up the snow blower in Oakland the forecast is for snow Vancouver.....
Posted by: Roy Rodgers

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/29/10 09:26 PM

Took a slow day today. My two girls and I went outside today and started building a dog house for our big ole galoot of a dog. One girl is nine, the other 12.

Thrilled to help me by handing me nails and screws.

Should finish tomorrow.

Had to get them out of the house and out of their moms hair for a bit.
Posted by: SM Boone

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/30/10 12:13 AM

This week is mental for me. Got 2 prospective DAR papers in somewhat order. ...
Oh yes genealogy is my sideline career, my mental effort, makes me craaaaazy
Tuning and art make me peaceful, so will hit that next week. sm
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/30/10 09:26 AM

He he, I've had the last 2 weeks OFF. Went to see TSO yesterday afternoon. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQNirj6lbGY Awesome show! 2.5 hours of non stop entertainment!

Now, today on the other hand? I have a dentist appointment. Oh joy!
Posted by: Silverwood Pianos

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/30/10 10:33 AM


Let me try. I have never done a root canal before...gimme the drill thingy.....
Posted by: RPD

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/30/10 10:43 AM

Chillin' today...I've had mixed experience in the past tuning the week between Christmas and NY's, and for the past few years we've just been taking this week off for vacation. This year, projects around the "ranch" are on tap.

Ah, but today I'm going to drift around the lakeshore and purchase expensive coffee to drink while looking at art galleries. Later for entertainment, maybe while pretending I'm Jerry Groot I'll say obscure things about chickens to local Cable television. He likes it when I do that.

Michigan is beautiful this time of the year.

RPD

Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/30/10 11:59 AM

Quote:
Let me try. I have never done a root canal before...gimme the drill thingy.....


OH NO YOU DON'T DANNY BOY!!! NOT YOU!!!! Hmmm, isn't there a song in there somewhere?? ohhh, danny booyyyy...." I can feel the pain now OUCH OUCH OUCH!!!

Funny Rick. Turns out, I need not one but, TWO crowns. $870 a piece. Double ouch! Guess I'd better start thinking about returning to work again huh?
Posted by: Eric Gloo

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/31/10 06:25 PM

Almost finished on a 1918 Steinway K action replacement. The original was infested with verdigris, and had some "interesting" repairs over the years. It sure is fun working with new parts! Today was such a good day that I'm going to take the rest of the year off...
Posted by: BDB

Re: So, what did you do today? - 12/31/10 07:32 PM

Tuned both pianos for New Year's Eve at the nightclub in San Francisco.
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/04/11 06:25 PM

8 yesterday, 8 more today. College tuning time! smile
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/05/11 07:18 AM

Turned 88 front rail pins. Bwah ha ha ha ha
Posted by: Jerry Groot RPT

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/05/11 08:15 AM

Nothing! Today is my first official day back to work again. smile frown
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/05/11 08:16 AM

Originally Posted By: UnrightTooner
Turned 88 front rail pins. Bwah ha ha ha ha


turned??
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/05/11 09:38 AM

Originally Posted By: Les Koltvedt
Originally Posted By: UnrightTooner
Turned 88 front rail pins. Bwah ha ha ha ha


turned??


Yes, it was more appropriate than rebushing the keys in this case. Many will disagree. There have been Topics on it.
Posted by: Les Koltvedt

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/05/11 09:47 AM

Originally Posted By: UnrightTooner
Originally Posted By: Les Koltvedt
Originally Posted By: UnrightTooner
Turned 88 front rail pins. Bwah ha ha ha ha


turned??


Yes, it was more appropriate than rebushing the keys in this case. Many will disagree. There have been Topics on it.


I read em ...
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/05/11 06:51 PM

8 more at the college. 8 tomorrow and I'm done! Then on to the next college...
Posted by: DoelKees

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/05/11 11:05 PM

Originally Posted By: UnrightTooner
Originally Posted By: Les Koltvedt
Originally Posted By: UnrightTooner
Turned 88 front rail pins. Bwah ha ha ha ha


turned??


Yes, it was more appropriate than rebushing the keys in this case. Many will disagree. There have been Topics on it.


I recently dripped rubbing alcohol on 88 front rail bushings resulting in a happy (after it dried out) customer.

Kees
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/06/11 06:50 AM

Originally Posted By: UnrightTooner
Originally Posted By: Les Koltvedt
Originally Posted By: UnrightTooner
Turned 88 front rail pins. Bwah ha ha ha ha


turned??


Yes, it was more appropriate than rebushing the keys in this case. Many will disagree. There have been Topics on it.


Have there ever. Anyway, I feel that you WILL be rebushing those keys soon due to the wear caused by the turned pins.
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/06/11 07:34 AM

Originally Posted By: Loren D
.....

Anyway, I feel that you WILL be rebushing those keys soon due to the wear caused by the turned pins.


It is very unlikely that level of maintenance will be desired for this piano. That is why turning the pins was appropriate.
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/06/11 07:46 AM

Perhaps. Will you ever know, though? You'd be surprised how many times customers say "I want it done right" when the options are explained to them.

*edit* And no disrespect, but I really believe that turning the pins will end up eventually damaging the bushings due to the constant wear on spot from the pin being turned. Those bushings might be fine right now and merely compressed; the added wear from the turned pins will finish them off. Any repair that causes undue wear on the piano is never appropriate, imo.
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/06/11 09:22 AM

Loren:

No disrespect taken, you do not know the entire circumstances, and none meant by what I am about to ask, I sincerely want to know. Have you personally turned front rail pins and then had to replace the bushings due to accelerated wear?
Posted by: Loren D

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/06/11 10:31 AM

No, I don't turn pins. But i've seen worn bushings from turned pins. The bushing looks like a worn balance rail bushing on one of those poorly designed spinets where there's an angle right at the bushings.
Posted by: UnrightTooner

Re: So, what did you do today? - 01/06/11 10:55 AM

OK,

Can you say how much the piano had been played since the pins had been turned? Or what the bushings would have looked like if they had not been turned? Would you say that the keys would have been tighter if the pins had been turned back to normal when you saw the