New Beginner, age 57

Posted by: Musical Tom

New Beginner, age 57 - 05/29/11 10:09 PM

I have been playing piano for about 2 yrs. I am not new to music, started playing cello in 4th grade, played violin, clarinet, and a little organ. I seem to lack confidence in myself now, at this age of 57. Is there anyone out there that is about my age, and worries about being able to site read? I get frustrated at times....but won't quit. My piano teacher is constantly challenging me to some the hardest songs......

Tom
Posted by: Monica K.

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 05/29/11 11:16 PM

Welcome to the forum, Musical Tom. smile

I think we all lack confidence at some time or the other. Your sight reading *will* improve, even if the improvement seems discouragingly gradual. The best way to improve sight reading, imo, is not by tackling challenging pieces but by engaging in sight-reading practice with slightly easier material than what you are capable of mastering with a little effort.
Posted by: Mr Super-Hunky

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 05/29/11 11:36 PM

Tom, don't be afraid to veer off the path of structured sheet music from time to time.

Do you ever get your own musical thoughts? Do you ever play these melodies or incorporate them into your music? There is a whole other world out there to explore with your own creative input.
Posted by: AllShookUp

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 05/30/11 12:43 AM

Welcome Tom. I share your passion for playing piano as well as your age (I'm 57 also). My teacher currently has me practicing pieces from 2 different books. One I find challenging, and the other seems somewhat easier where I use it to sight read the pieces. I guess it helps to keep the confidence level up, which also makes learning fun.
Posted by: J.A.S

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 05/30/11 02:55 AM

Originally Posted By: Musical Tom
I seem to lack confidence in myself now, at this age of 57. Is there anyone out there that is about my age, and worries about being able to site read?

Welcome, young man wink. I started learning piano at the age of 57, 2.5 years ago.

Yes, I also have episodes of lack of confidence from time to time and I think it's normal, as Monica said.

Being able to sight read (play a vista) is great, but not essential unless you want to be a pro. You may just perform only learned pieces, playing them from the score or having them memorized and playing from memory, depending on your preference. There are even very good pianists who are not good sight-readers.

As others have said, the level of difficulty of pieces to be sight-read is well below your performance level.
Posted by: Musical Tom

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 05/30/11 07:57 AM

Thanks for all the votes of confidence. I am happy to hear I am not the only 57yo newbie out there.......It takes all I have to not get frustrated and want to quit......I am working on it.....and I am sure those that have responded, are as well. I would be happy to support anyone if I can as well. We need ea. other for encouragement. I admire anyone at any age, starting to play.......it's a gift and great therapy....

Tom
Posted by: Butteman

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 05/30/11 08:35 AM

Tom I can relate to your situation and have a few thoughts to share. I started playing in my mid-50’s and am now 61 (where has the time gone!) smile. Other than 1 year of lessons at age 10, I had no other musical training to sight read. When I started lessons my goal was to just enjoy playing without going through an overly structured training program. My teacher started me off with Hal Leonard’s “The Easy Fake Book” and “Your First Fake Book” featuring simplified harmonies and melodies all in the key of C. The music notation is larger for ease of reading for us old guys (LOL). Only five basic cords are used in major, minor, seventh, diminished and augmented. My teacher taught me easy rules to form the cords. Also there is a handy cord speller chart included in the back of the book. I concentrated on learning all the cords in the different keys in 1st, 2nd and 3rd inversions. Now they come naturally without thinking and I can concentrate on sight reading only the melody with the right hand. By learning to play the melody and filling in the basic with cords I was able to play over 60 popular songs in a couple of years which gave me a feeling of accomplishment and confidence. During the holidays Christmas music is enjoyable using melody and cords. My sight reading has greatly improved over time. I have gone on to more challenging Classical music where sight reading is much more disciplined. If a piece is difficult one of my teacher’s favorite techniques is to have me start at the last measure or phrase and work backwards, aiming to perfect that section before working on the rest of the piece. The idea is to learn a small part rather than playing a whole page and learning nothing. Talk to your teacher about starting off slowly and choose music you enjoy. Your determination not to quit will make you successful but small wins will eliminate the frustration.
Posted by: Michael Steen

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 05/30/11 09:11 AM

59 here, and started a few years ago. As all have said, it WILL come, though from day to day it doesn't seem like it.

And, yes, there is a difference between reading the score and sight-reading. I might compare it to a junior high school student reading aloud from Dr. Seuss and Shakespeare. The sight-reading, for him, is from Dr. Seuss. It's well below his reading level, and he can easily and fluently read the words at sight-with enough humorous intonation to make his little brother laugh. The Shakespeare, though, is way above his level. Though he may read it slowly and laboriously at first, with practice and coaching he'll be able to get through a speech quite passably. However, give him another speech he hasn't seen before, and he's right back to the halting and stumbling reading that he gave the first time.

That's the same with us adult learners. As we improve, the small little elementary pieces give us no trouble, but the more complicated ones must be learned measure by measure and worked over very carefully. I have found, though, that VERY SLOWLY the material I can perform quickly and easily has gotten a little bit more complex. You will find that too--IF YOU SIT DOWN AND PLAY EVERY DAY. It doesn't have to be long, but it has to be consistent.
Good luck.
Posted by: Frito

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 05/30/11 09:24 AM

Hi Tom
Welcome. I took piano lessons as a child but didn't practice, and started taking lessons again more than 50 years later. And I claim the title of the "world's worst sight-reader".
My teacher says that it comes with further practice and "pattern recognition". For the time being, struggling with getting the right notes, hitting the right keys in the right way with the right fingers, etc.
It's a difficult path. But it's well worth it. And it's good for keeping the 50+ year old mind very active.

Frito
Posted by: musdan

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 05/30/11 09:54 AM

Hi Tom,

Welcome to the forum.

I started lesson at age 60 and must have "quit" at least once a week.

Thanks to my PW friends and really wanting to learn to play, I hung in there. Never
give up, keep at it, sight-reading will come with time and follow Monica's advice.
Posted by: painter55

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 05/30/11 10:12 AM

I am 56, and started playing piano only four months ago. I played the violin for a really long time, and sightread almost every single note. The difference now is that you have two staves to comprehend simultaneously. I have researched the topic of sightreading. The eluted wisdom suggests that sightreading is skill that can be acquired by practice. But how to practice it?

My teachers said: "Don't look at your hands. Feel the intervals. Try to see the two staves as a unit, and look ahead." Much easier said than done! But, I started on easy stuff, and followed my teacher's advice (which I pay for, so getting my money's worth is important). Voila'! Over a few weeks, I started to get it. Now, I press forward with slighly more complex pieces. It gets easier.

Good luck.
Posted by: CarlosCC

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 05/30/11 11:10 AM

Originally Posted By: painter55
(...)My teachers said: "Don't look at your hands. Feel the intervals(...)

That's a good advice. I would say, "Fell the intervals, AND fell the music".

Good luck!
Posted by: kdi

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 05/30/11 03:51 PM

Our backgrounds are similar. I started piano five years ago at 55. Played a saxophone for 7 years thru high school so I can "read" and understand printed music. Sight reading (in the context of piano) is an often discussed topic here on PW. I personally don't understand why. Yes there are situations that require the ability, but as a recreational player with interest in blues, boogie and rock, I learn a song one hand at a time, four measures at a time, commit it to memory and then almost never look at the music again.

Practicing sight reading for its own sake IMHO isn't the best use of my time. I'll spend it practicing scales, inversions, arpeggios, etc and learning songs. Along the way my sight reading has improved too.

Improvement comes in erratic spurts. I just keep grinding along and every now and then - I surprise myself.

Keep at it. hth
Posted by: Musical Tom

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 05/30/11 05:33 PM

Hi, thanks all, I find all the comments quite encouraging. My old teacher was trying to teach me all the scales, cords, etc. But, the new teacher is pushing Hannon exercises.....go figure.....I did learn one song by heart, after practicing it several and I mean several times.......lol. Here is the link, I am a beginner, so made some mistakes, and don't play it as fast as some people can.....It's the Maple Leaf Rag....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ks_YX1_b2ZQ

Thanks again everyone....

Tom
Posted by: BillM

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 05/30/11 06:46 PM

Musical Tom - after reading your post on this topic I was not at all prepared for how well you played this piece. You are indeed musical, Tom.
Posted by: Musical Tom

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 05/30/11 07:11 PM

I played this several and I mean several times......and I still make mistakes.......I can't play it as fast as some people can.....and it's the only song I learned by heart, the rest I struggle with......I can't play Fur Elise through without making mistakes......it bugs me, but what can you do.....I practice every day, while working full time. To get the Maple Leaf Rag down, I practiced it for hrs. and wanted to give up several times....lol. My teacher didn't let me.....I would love to hear some of you guys play......I am sure everyone does well....as I say, I still struggle through most pieces without making mistakes, and really can't play in front of people, get too nervous.....thanks again everyone. I really enjoy this forum...

Tom
Posted by: Musical Tom

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 05/30/11 07:16 PM

Monica, very nice video. I love new age music. You have quite a nice style, which I am sure comes from many hours and love for music. You truly have talent. Thanks for your comments and vote of confidence.

Tom
Posted by: Michael Steen

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 05/30/11 07:17 PM

Tom,
Wonderful performance! I'm jealous and envious and all those other deadly sins, but I've got to give credit where it's due. Bravo!
Posted by: Musical Tom

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 05/30/11 07:22 PM

Thank you Michael, (blushing). I don't mean to brag, just wanted to share.....It's the only song I can play through with the least amt. of mistakes, lol. I am still a bit self-conscious. I appreciate your feedback. It would be nice to hear others play as well.....I would love that....

Tom
Posted by: Musical Tom

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 05/30/11 07:32 PM

If anyone has a video(s), I would love to hear them.

Tom
Posted by: piano4

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 05/30/11 07:47 PM

Hi Tom,

I have to say "ditto" to the above statements. I gave myself piano lessons at 50 and there are those times that I can't seem to play anything right. All of the advice I have received has been to go slowly, in small doses, keep at it, and it will occur.
Posted by: LivingInMyHands

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 05/30/11 07:50 PM

You sir inspire me.

I'm still young and I had to muster up the courage to take lessons. Kudos to you for going after what you want!
Posted by: Musical Tom

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 06/16/11 09:00 PM

Hi Everyone,

I need some encouragement. I am getting a little discouraged, feeling that I am not progressing fast enough. I feel some days, I don't remember anything. I have to practice things over and over again to finally get it.....I just get a little discouraged and feel incompetent with my piano teacher at times....but I know he understands.....does anyone else get this way? I sometimes think it is my age.....

Tom
Posted by: wj3

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 06/16/11 09:31 PM

Hi Musical Tom. I started learning to play at 60. I've been at it for 5 years now. I think you play the Joplin piece very well. I think I hate you. Not really, but I love ragtime and only wish I could play that piece as well as you. I am working on a easy version of Bethena and have only gotten down parts A and B. And I have played it a million times and still make mistakes. So keep up the good work and keep your chin up. Yes my teacher gets on me from time to time about my progress and my practicing, but hey thats what I pay him for.

Welcome to the forumn, its a great place. Keep sending us those videos.
Posted by: nancymae

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 06/16/11 10:31 PM

Wow.....I was just going to write an encouraging statement..I'm 58 and I am about 1.5 years into piano playing. Then I listened to your WONDERFUL youtube.....YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ANYTHING!!! It was AWESOME! Now, I feel like I don't know jack!!!!

:-)

Keep playing those keys!!!

Nancy
Posted by: Rickster

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 06/16/11 11:31 PM

Well, I’m 54 and have been learning to play the piano for about 5 years now. I’m having a ball! laugh

I really can’t play all that well, but for some reason it has inspired me to write about 30 original songs, lose 50 pounds and start body building. My blood pressure is 120 over 80 and my total cholesterol is almost in the below normal range. I feel better, younger and more vibrant than I have in years!

And, I’ve mentioned this here before, but I’ve noticed that when I’m at the grocery store shopping, the women I meet in the isle will turn around and take a second look at me! That has never happened before!!! smile

So, I’m thinking that taking up learning to play the piano late in life has more positive effects than you might think…. I’m thinking that if more older, middle-aged individuals would take up learning to play the piano, there might be less of need for convalescent homes!! (Wishful thinking maybe laugh )

Rick
Posted by: John_In_Montreal

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 06/17/11 06:05 AM

Originally Posted By: Rickster

So, I’m thinking that taking up learning to play the piano late in life has more positive effects than you might think…. I’m thinking that if more older, middle-aged individuals would take up learning to play the piano, there might be less of need for convalescent homes!! (Wishful thinking maybe laugh )

Rick


Wishful thinking maybe, but quite accurate! If more people took up something meaningful (like playing music) instead of remaining passive in front of the telly or the internet, they sure would feel better about themselves. I can attest that learning an instrument has many, many positive "secondary benefits" that add quality to (my) life.

John
Posted by: Musical Tom

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 06/17/11 07:11 AM

Thanks to all, I think I "should be" much further ahead than I am. The Joplin piece is the "only" piece I can play by heart with minimal mistakes. The rest of the music I struggle with......I probably should be playing much easier ones. I am way to hard on my self......and that is probably why I get so discouraged......

Tom
Posted by: Teodor

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 06/17/11 07:28 AM

Tom, I was surprised at how well you played this! You have nothing to worry about and you should be very proud of your progress. Playing faster will come with time as your technique improves which will come from scales, arpeggios, some hanon, and from practicing pieces. Speed is nowhere as important as musicality and your playing has that. I too have moments when I feel I want to quit a piece. Some of my pieces have taken me four months to master and even then I still make some mistakes and they are far from perfect. I expect it won't get easier soon , we just have to be patient and to learn to enjoy the little victories. They are what keeps us going. If you can, play your pieces for as many people as possible, maybe ask youf teavher if you could take part on one of her recitals if she organizes such, or do a family reunion thing and prepare a couple of pieces to play for a larger group of your relatives. Personally for me, knowing I will play a piece in front of an audience, pushes me to go further and keeps me motivated. I don't like playing just for myself. I love sharing that. Otherwise I feel like all the hard work goes to waste. Of course I still don't play good in recitals but that will come too. It's very enjoyable nontheless.
Posted by: Musical Tom

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 06/17/11 10:34 AM

I am impressed at how supportive everyone has been. I do get discouraged, but, have new hope, as I hear that I am not alone. I feel so incompetent at times, and still get nervous even playing in front of my teacher....

Thanks again to all for the heartfelt encouraging words....

Tom
Posted by: fieldflower

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 06/17/11 12:12 PM

40 years old and started playing piano yesterday (when I got an electric piano from my wife as a 40 yo present).
Seeing Your YT clip makes me wonder if I'm ever going to get good at this, but as long as I'm having fun with it I'm happy...
Posted by: casinitaly

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 06/17/11 01:08 PM

Hi Tom! ,
I'm just a smidge younger than most of those who have posted their ages (except of course Teodor.... I'm way older than he is smile )

Having high expectations of where we should be is something that adult learners of just about everything go through.
My teacher and I were talking about this just this week. I teach adults English - and had one student in tears this week because she is so upset with what she perceives as her lack of progress.... and I was feeling a little low because I was having trouble getting my fingers around my Beethoven piece, which "seemed" simple enough on paper...

Adults are their own worst critics. We are used to being able to do the things we want to do without too much frustration. We then pass 50 (ouch. It still hurt to write that....sigh).... take up piano, and feel like 2 year olds. We know how everything is supposed to work but we can't do it the way we see others doing it.

We also seem to lose any sense of perspective on how long it takes to really learn something that is physically and mentally demanding.
Those of us who have played other instruments tend to think "well, how much harder can it be?" Ha! I was stunned at how tired my brain was after trying to read and play very very simple pieces of piano music.

The other thing we tend to forget is that we "plateau". We make a certain amount of progress and then it feels like we are standing still. Those are the times we have to pull out pieces that one or two months earlier seemed challenging. It is exciting to see that what was really hard before, has suddenly become approachable.

I can not imagine playing the Maple Leaf Rag right now. Kudos to you!
I just know it is beyond me.... for now, maybe for the next year, I'm really not sure.

The other point I wanted to talk about is sight reading - there are a lot of mixed opinions about this - and why not ? There are alot of very differnt musicians here, with wonderfully eclectic tastes in music.

I think sight reading is fun - I do sight reading duets with my teacher and it is a blast to year new music come alive - I laugh outloud at musical surprises. It helps me with note recognition in general (I'm fine with treble, still a wee bit shaky on the bass clef) - and it gives me a sense of progress. Some of my sight-reading is true "prima vista", some is material that I don't play enough to "know", but that I have seen a little bit before.
I think it is good to learn to sight read, because one of the things I really want to do is to play with others. For example, at Christmas we had friends over for a musical evening - we were from Canada, Brazil, Ireland and Sweden..oh and Italy too smile lol.... and we all had our favourite Christmas music. It involved a lot of sight reading, and I was NOT great at it, lol.. but I had such great fun!

Personally I think developing your sight reading skills just speeds up the whole process as you approach new pieces.

But hey - to each his own!
Posted by: Teodor

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 06/17/11 01:57 PM

Originally Posted By: Musical Tom
I am impressed at how supportive everyone has been. I do get discouraged, but, have new hope, as I hear that I am not alone. I feel so incompetent at times, and still get nervous even playing in front of my teacher....

Thanks again to all for the heartfelt encouraging words....

Tom


I feel the same way. It often so happens that I sit at the piano and I feel as if I can play anything and on these days I play quite well. But there are other times when I see no progress or I just feel tired from all the lessons and from practicing and I get frustrated like this:



I have been at it for weeks, I know it by heart but on some days I can't do a clean playthrough no matter what.
Posted by: Emissary52

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 06/17/11 02:36 PM

Originally Posted By: Musical Tom
I am impressed at how supportive everyone has been. I do get discouraged, but, have new hope, as I hear that I am not alone. I feel so incompetent at times, and still get nervous even playing in front of my teacher....

Thanks again to all for the heartfelt encouraging words....

Tom


Musical Tom - When I started to read your original post, I immediately identified with you. After a year and a half of playing I sometimes feel the same way. Then I watched your video and I thought "Is that his piano teacher or him"? When I realized it was you ... I'm thinking to myself ... "Holy Moly ... If he's depressed with that level of talent, I should be downright suicidal at this point


Tom - you are a very talented and musical guy. At the rate you're progressing, we'll be buying your music on itunes in a couple of years. Teodor, whose post is above mine is similarly talented too! You two guys could do an album ...Tom and Teodor at Carnegie Hall by the time I finish my Masterwork Classics Volume 3 book! I feel ...soooo inadequate now! Don't be so hard on yourself!! You got it!
Posted by: KathyH

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 06/19/11 12:30 PM

Hi, all. I too am 57 (for a few weeks more, anyway...). I began a year ago, with a teacher who had only children as her other students, so she went very, very slowly with me. Also, she was very ill, and she has now passed away. After a month or so hiatus, I began with her teacher in January (2011). He keeps saying I'm doing great, but I still feel all thumbs, and can't really play much of anything yet. But I keep plugging away.

My goal is not to be a professional pianist, but to play well enough to teach voice, which I'm also studying. And to enjoy myself. But I'm still going on faith at this point! Have a demanding job (patent secretary) and can't always practice as much as I should. I live in an apartment and the hours I can practice without disturbing neighbors are limited; if I work late, by the time I get some dinner, it may be too late to play. But I keep at it...

Guess we all need encouragement.
Posted by: Johan B

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 06/19/11 04:45 PM

Originally Posted By: Musical Tom
Hi Everyone,

I need some encouragement. I am getting a little discouraged, feeling that I am not progressing fast enough. I feel some days, I don't remember anything. I have to practice things over and over again to finally get it.....I just get a little discouraged and feel incompetent with my piano teacher at times....but I know he understands.....does anyone else get this way? I sometimes think it is my age.....

Tom


Hi Thom......I'am still 57, within a week 58......one day I play every sheet I want....other days it seems my fingers are sitting in a knot.....

Playing by heart....mmmm...not me.....only Wonderfull world...and some fragments of classics......always need to have sheets with me....

Best regards and enjoy every moment on the bench...

Johan B
Posted by: PianoU1

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 06/20/11 01:39 PM

congrats Tom, Maple Leaf Rag is a grade 8 piece on my board, you obviously have a lot of natural talent to play grade 8 pieces after just 2 years. Well done.
Posted by: Wannaplay

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 06/21/11 01:41 PM

I have been playing piano for just over 2 years. I am now 57 and am still having fun.

My piano teacher has me working my way through a series os grade school piano books. I can tell that the learning curve for learning a new piece is sslloowwlly getting shorter. From discussions with my teacher the improvement in sight reading due to practice is what happens. It is a slow painful process.
My challenge piece currently is a rendition of the New World Symphony. This is really beyond my current skill level. I am working on it over the course of a number of months.
Posted by: Musical Tom

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 08/05/11 10:21 PM

Hi everyone.....I am still playing and practicing.....I can't believe how rusty one can get when we don't practice often.......I still wish I could site read a little better, but am getting better at it. Does anyone have any suggestions and/or exercises that might help?

Tom
Posted by: Musical Tom

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 08/05/11 10:22 PM

Thanks for the compliment......I appreciate it, but still need much work to improve my skill and speed.......I still make plenty of mistakes on The Maple Leaf Rag.....

Tom
Posted by: Musical Tom

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 08/05/11 10:27 PM

You seem like you play with confidence, don't ever give up......You are much much to young for that.....lol I think you play well

Tom
Posted by: Musical Tom

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 08/07/11 10:41 AM

I am not familiar with the grading system, can someone explain it to me?

Tom
Posted by: FarmGirl

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 08/07/11 01:04 PM

MusicalTom, you got my encouragement as well. I am not young either but save me from confessing my age (LOL), Cas, I think we are pretty darn close in age (smile).
Posted by: Musical Tom

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 08/20/11 07:07 PM

What is every one working on? I am working on Chopin Prelude in D-Flat Major.....hard piece.....I just want to give up on it sometimes......
Posted by: rnaple

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 08/21/11 10:43 AM

When we quit learning. We quit living. Live on, Tom! Enjoy!
Posted by: Musical Tom

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 08/21/11 11:00 AM

Ron, You are so right......I will never quit. Practicing and playing the piano has become part of my life. There are friends and relatives that say I am obsessed and resent my time practicing, but I don't. Playing piano keeps me from feeling lonely. It's one of my best friends......and good therapy.

Tom
Posted by: Musical Tom

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 08/21/11 11:03 AM

Thank you for your encouragement. You sound like you are well on your way to becoming something special in your playing. Good luck....

Tom
Posted by: Musical Tom

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 08/21/11 11:04 AM

I would love to hear you play The New World Symphony, I am sure you are progressing well......

Tom
Posted by: Bamabeginner

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 08/21/11 11:56 AM

Wow, Tom- I am 55, have been playing for not quite 2 years, and am waaaaay behind you. Just watched your youtube of The Maple Leaf Rag and it was amazing!! Congrats to you for the progress you have made! Please don't be discouraged- you are doing great. Now I feel a challenge to get off my butt, practice more often, and make a bit more progress. Compared to most of y'all, I have really fallen behind the curve. Time to step up my game! Thanks for the wake-up call.
Posted by: rnaple

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 08/21/11 11:59 AM

Originally Posted By: Musical Tom
... There are friends and relatives that say I am obsessed ...
Tom


You do realize there is only one solution to this?
Whenever they are around. Excuse yourself for a moment. Go in the piano room. Play a 4 bars of something hard core. (maybe even get an organ just for this) Then yell out at the top of your lungs... Bwahhhaaa haaaa haaaa!!!!!!! Then find your way back to the "party" and very innocently add to the conversation that you have no obsession with music. smile
Posted by: Artur Gajewski

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 08/21/11 01:15 PM

Tom,

You are a living proof that its never too late to start playing piano.

Don't worry about sight reading capability. It might now come in a week, month or even couple months, but it will come.

Piano is funny in the sense that it takes lots of practice but then one day you realize you just know whatever you have been practicing.

Welcome to the forum!
Posted by: Musical Tom

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 08/26/11 09:18 PM

Thanks again everyone for the encouragement, I would love to hear anyone play, if anyone has a video on utube.......This is a wonderful forum, and I certainly enjoy all the comments and am learning much from everyone....enjoy playing....
Posted by: jed1988

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 08/26/11 10:04 PM

No need to worry because if you like to play piano and have the chance to play, you can have fun with it. Piano is there to comfort us, and if you are comforted through playing, then it has fulfilled its purpose.
Posted by: KeysAngler

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 08/26/11 10:51 PM



62 years old here ... started piano a few months after retiring ... I think I'd go nuts (or nuttier) if it wasn't for my piano ... it's a totally fascinating and never ending challenge. I know my wife is glad that something is keeping me out of her hair. She has told me so several times. LOL. I didn't really think about what my goals were when I started ... I just wanted a fun hobby. I probably won't join a rock band and go on a bus tour. But one never knows do they. I guess my goal is just to have fun and keep my mind active. I hope that eventually I'll be able to play a few simple classical pieces and accompany some jam tracks. My teacher is a nice person and I really enjoy my weekly lesson. As they say ... it's called playing the piano not working the piano.

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Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 08/27/11 12:17 PM

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Posted by: Seeker

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 08/27/11 12:24 PM

I strongly recommend Peter Feuchtwanger's exercises. He's written a book, unfortunately just in German at this point, but the DVD that goes with it is in English, and you can learn a lot from that without the book. http://www.peter-feuchtwanger.de/english-version/book-with-dvd/index.php. I worked with him a few summers ago. The man is a genius coach though relatively unknown here in the USofA.
Posted by: Musical Tom

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 10/09/11 12:16 PM

Has anyone played "Estudiantina" Waltz? It's challenging, but nice.

Tom
Posted by: Musical Tom

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 10/09/11 12:20 PM

I found your comment quite encouraging and motivating. Although I am a beginner, I will not give up, not matter how badly I sound. I remember my teacher telling me to start at the beginning of this piece, and go as far as I can, and I said, you mean: "as far as you can stand it." lol We are our own worst critics. I am enjoying the forum and hope everyone is as well.

Tom
Posted by: Musical Tom

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 11/20/11 12:23 PM

I am now 58 years old and still struggling...I find that things don't come so easily any more, but, I can't give up......I still need to practice every day.....
Posted by: wouter79

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 11/20/11 01:29 PM

>Is there anyone out there that is about my age, and worries about being able to site read?

I'm not your age but I don't care about sight reading (I assume that's what you ask about). I will just memorize the stuff. I can read pretty slow; I'm sure it will improve anyway even without doing any work specific on it.
Posted by: wouter79

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 11/20/11 01:46 PM

Tom, you can hear many other adults play in the ABF recital thread. Also check old recitals (though the recital server is down right now, you may have to retry in a few days).

You might consider also joining in there, your Maple Leaf is more than sufficient for that wink
Posted by: Musical Tom

Re: New Beginner, age 57 - 11/20/11 03:06 PM

I am getting a little better at sight reading. It's the left hand that tends to wander, and I have to look many times to make sure I am where I am supposed to be.....he he.

I work very had at it. It gets a bit frustrating at times, but I don't and won't give up.

Thanks for the feedback.

tom