Piano curse?

Posted by: justpin

Piano curse? - 10/31/12 10:32 AM

I now have access to a Bechstein grand piano. Its a massive 8ft thing. I can use it till March. I might have access from March to May a Steinway.

It has a wonderfully light touch and an incredibly rich sound.

To compare my CDP feels so inadequate.

Seeing as Casio/Yam will never make a DP with a touch and sound as nice as a Bechstein grand. Nor can I ever afford a Bechstein grand piano either.

Am I now cursed to a life of comparatively inadequate pianos?

Posted by: jdw

Re: Piano curse? - 10/31/12 02:20 PM

Maybe a good time to look at the doughnut instead of the hole? Enjoy that Bechstein while you can!
Posted by: Farmerjones

Re: Piano curse? - 10/31/12 02:52 PM

Our church organist has a Steinway grand, and i have an open invitation. But as you say, i think it's only going to give me the fever.
Posted by: JeanieA

Re: Piano curse? - 10/31/12 03:33 PM

Quote:
look at the doughnut instead of the hole
I love that; I think it's going to be my new mantra! smile

I'd be so down with the loan on that Bechstein...no matter how short a time.
Posted by: KarelG

Re: Piano curse? - 10/31/12 04:24 PM

8ft Bechstein? What a luck! Enjoy it every moment and don't stress yourself with the fact that such fairy tail is going to end sometime...Relax and play, just nothing more's needed.
Posted by: Stryder87

Re: Piano curse? - 10/31/12 05:25 PM

I faced the same problem. I have my little Yamaha DGX-640, but had the opportunity to play a beautiful Fazioli and a C. Bechstein, both concert grands over seven feet long. It was more than a night/day difference. I didn’t touch my piano for 2 days because I knew I’d be terribly disappointed with mine after playing those beauties. It took a lot of mental discipline and reminding myself that what I own is still more than what I need right now. I certainly don’t play beyond what I own yet, so I’m still satisfied with it. Not that I wouldn’t love one of those other ones!! I mean… they even made me sound good! thumb

Being on very good terms with the sales lady, I can go visit her and play the latest Fazioli or C. Bechstein she has in stock whenever I want, and still be at peace with the dramatic difference between what I own and those pieces of art. Joy! grin
Posted by: 4evrBeginR

Re: Piano curse? - 10/31/12 06:05 PM

Originally Posted By: justpin
To compare my CDP feels so inadequate.

Am I now cursed to a life of comparatively inadequate pianos?



I know exactly what you mean, but I don't believe you need a high end grand in order to have that musical transcendental experience. It can happen on a more modest instrument. It has to be an acoustic piano though.

Posted by: ChopinAddict

Re: Piano curse? - 10/31/12 06:48 PM

Seize the piano...
Posted by: Amaruk

Re: Piano curse? - 10/31/12 07:02 PM

Originally Posted By: justpin

Am I now cursed to a life of comparatively inadequate pianos?

What about all the other, and much less expensive, grand pianos? Once you start to explore them I am sure you will easily find something that is not "inadequate". I have a lower end AP myself and I am very happy with it.
Posted by: Bobpickle

Re: Piano curse? - 10/31/12 08:05 PM

Would you rather not play such a beautiful instrument at all? I think not wink
Posted by: EdwardianPiano

Re: Piano curse? - 10/31/12 10:03 PM

I have never played a grand - must be awesome! I like your Murray Perahia quote Bob! He is right! I have a CD of him playing Chopin's etudes- he is great.
Posted by: Greener

Re: Piano curse? - 10/31/12 10:28 PM

Originally Posted By: justpin

Am I now cursed to a life of comparatively inadequate pianos?


Not in my opinion. And sorry to poop on anyone's parade. But I don't see what all the hype is about for these behemoth grands.

Of course they are great instruments and are amazing for filling a room with sound. But for playing? The sound seems so far away and not right at you at all. Takes some getting used to. Personally I don't prefer it. For a home setting, unless I had a really big room, plus the moolah of course -- and do not on both counts, -- I think I'd be quite happy with a good quality upright. Much better quality than I have at the moment mind you.
Posted by: Derulux

Re: Piano curse? - 11/01/12 07:53 AM

Originally Posted By: justpin
I now have access to a Bechstein grand piano. Its a massive 8ft thing. I can use it till March. I might have access from March to May a Steinway.

It has a wonderfully light touch and an incredibly rich sound.

To compare my CDP feels so inadequate.

Seeing as Casio/Yam will never make a DP with a touch and sound as nice as a Bechstein grand. Nor can I ever afford a Bechstein grand piano either.

Am I now cursed to a life of comparatively inadequate pianos?


When I was in college, I had access to a 9' Steinway. In the years since, I have largely been confined to a keyboard. It sucks. I can't lie to you and tell you everything will be fine, or that keyboards are awesome. Enjoy the piano while you can, and then hopefully someday you'll be able to afford the high-priced ticket.
Posted by: -Frycek

Re: Piano curse? - 11/02/12 03:30 AM

Cursed? You're blessed. Be grateful, Privileged One. You're obviously in a situation where good pianos happen and will probably happen again. I'm 59 and I've never been within sight of a Bechstein or caught more than an all too fleeting glimpse of an ancient Steinway.
Posted by: justpin

Re: Piano curse? - 11/28/12 05:08 AM

cry

The dream is over!

cry

Access has been denied forever.

I was wondering why the room had been locked, and spoke to the director about it. Somebody has vandalised the piano badly and they aren't going to repair it. It pains me to write about it, but there is damage all over it and its now just an ornament.


How could they? cry
Posted by: casinitaly

Re: Piano curse? - 11/28/12 05:29 AM

Originally Posted By: justpin
cry

The dream is over!

cry

Access has been denied forever.

I was wondering why the room had been locked, and spoke to the director about it. Somebody has vandalised the piano badly and they aren't going to repair it. It pains me to write about it, but there is damage all over it and its now just an ornament.


How could they? cry


That's just sickening.
Where does anyone get off thinking they can damage other people's property?
Posted by: Allard

Re: Piano curse? - 11/28/12 06:02 AM

Oh no, that's terrible news frown

There was no camera/watch over the expensive instrument?
Posted by: jdw

Re: Piano curse? - 11/28/12 06:57 AM

This is worse than just an attack on property--more like sacrilege! I'm really sorry to hear it.
Posted by: JeanieA

Re: Piano curse? - 11/28/12 04:57 PM

That is really sad news. I do hope the responsible party is found and held responsible.

I wish the door had been locked before the damage occurred...
Posted by: EdwardianPiano

Re: Piano curse? - 11/28/12 05:20 PM

Originally Posted By: justpin
cry

The dream is over!

cry

Access has been denied forever.

I was wondering why the room had been locked, and spoke to the director about it. Somebody has vandalised the piano badly and they aren't going to repair it. It pains me to write about it, but there is damage all over it and its now just an ornament.


How could they? cry


How could anyone vandalise a PIANO?!!! That is totally appalling. I'm upset to read this. A beautiful instrument silenced. DISGRACEFUL. cursing
Posted by: BeccaBb

Re: Piano curse? - 11/28/12 05:35 PM

There is something really wrong with people who do that. Sorry to hear about this! Such a shame...
Posted by: Michael_99

Re: Piano curse? - 11/28/12 05:58 PM

About the smashed piano - When I was 7, my adopted brother arrived in my father's truck. My father went to a big city to pick the kid up. What I remember being told was that he was malnourished. His legs were very thin and weak. I was told every word out of his mouth was a swear word. He was 4 years old. I soon learned that he would pull out all his eyelashes if he was unhappy about something. He told my mother that she could hit him or break his arm but he would not do anyting he didn't want to do. When I was a teenage, I got a transistor radio. A some point he smashed the transistor radio to pieces. I am not sure why. In his teens he carved his name into his arm as a tattoo. He always said he would marry rich women and both his wives were rich. When he was married to his first wife he punched a concrete wall and broke his arm. Later he became addicted to some drug and eventually he committed suicide at about 50. I left home to go to college when he was 16 so I don't really know about his life. But I tell you this to give you an idea of what kind of people would break or destroy a piano. I was adopted as a baby as opposed to 4 years old - and I had an awesome life.

About the piano - Lang Lang could play your digital piano or any piano and it would sound awesome. Why? - because a master has the facility to do what is necessary to make it happen. I have a secondhand acoustic grand yamaha and am humbled by its presence. Sure it sounds good, but when I use the same phrasing the cheap digital sounds good, too. I am just a beginner and am happy to practice or play on any piano - especially after midnight. I remember not so long ago when digtal pianos didn't exit and the steinways and all acoustic
pianos were silent after 8:00 p.m. if you live in or close to others who could hear the piano.

I only wished the price of the piano is what makes the quality of my playing sound better. A wrong note on any piano sounds the same.
Posted by: jdw

Re: Piano curse? - 11/28/12 08:44 PM

I'm wondering now if that decision not to repair the piano is irrevocable. Of course it depends on what the damage is, but 8-foot Bechsteins are not so easy to come by, and I can't help wondering whether it could be repaired. A situation like this might even be a good occasion for fundraising to cover the costs. Nobody wants the vandals to win.
Posted by: aTallGuyNH

Re: Piano curse? - 11/29/12 12:36 AM

Originally Posted By: Michael_99
About the piano - Lang Lang could play your digital piano or any piano and it would sound awesome.

Yes, but would he still make his ridiculous gyrations? f
Posted by: ChopinAddict

Re: Piano curse? - 11/30/12 02:18 AM

cry cry cry The offender should be sentenced to a minimum of 12 months of community work. mad mad mad
Posted by: -Frycek

Re: Piano curse? - 11/30/12 02:35 AM

Originally Posted By: ChopinAddict
cry cry cry The offender should be sentenced to a minimum of 12 months of community work. mad mad mad


How about 20 to life on the rock pile?

(If I weren't opposed to capitol punishment on principle - - -)
Posted by: aTallGuyNH

Re: Piano curse? - 11/30/12 09:36 PM

Originally Posted By: -Frycek
How about 20 to life on the rock pile?

(If I weren't opposed to capitol punishment on principle - - -)


But that's not capital punishment... Capital punishment would be dropping the thing on the offender's head (capital in two senses in that case).

My preferred punishment would be to require restitution. Once repaired, put the piano in a soundproof room, then force the offender to watch in silence from the outside as Lang Lang plays. He would have to watch endless gymnastics and gyrations, without getting the benefit of actually hearing anything.

The only thing I can think of that's actually worse than watching Lang Lang play would be to just watch him. grin
Posted by: joyoussong

Re: Piano curse? - 12/01/12 11:11 AM

If they're not going to repair it, maybe you could offer to take it off their hands. I have no idea what it'd cost you to eventually get it repaired, but probably less than buying a new one.
Posted by: EdwardianPiano

Re: Piano curse? - 12/01/12 05:13 PM


Quote:
My preferred punishment would be to require restitution. Once repaired, put the piano in a soundproof room, then force the offender to watch in silence from the outside as Lang Lang plays. He would have to watch endless gymnastics and gyrations, without getting the benefit of actually hearing anything.

The only thing I can think of that's actually worse than watching Lang Lang play would be to just watch him. grin



Ah no! Lang Lang is brilliant- I love watching him play on the you tube videos and BBC concerts.

A real punishment would be Barry Manilow!
Posted by: justpin

Re: Piano curse? - 12/01/12 05:21 PM

I was thinking this, but I don't have space for a concert grand.

The bigger problem is how on earth I would get out of there. Without knocking a wall out.
Posted by: -Frycek

Re: Piano curse? - 12/01/12 07:45 PM

Originally Posted By: justpin
I was thinking this, but I don't have space for a concert grand.

The bigger problem is how on earth I would get out of there. Without knocking a wall out.


They remove the legs, turn the piano on edge and use a dolly.
Posted by: aTallGuyNH

Re: Piano curse? - 12/01/12 08:06 PM

Originally Posted By: justpin
I was thinking this, but I don't have space for a concert grand.

The bigger problem is how on earth I would get out of there. Without knocking a wall out.
Was the building built around the Bösendorfer?
Posted by: ChopinAddict

Re: Piano curse? - 12/01/12 08:17 PM

If they got it in, you can get it out. smile
Posted by: Chopinlover49

Re: Piano curse? - 12/03/12 11:21 AM

You never know what may happen. When I was young, my dad was in the army and we moved constantly. I always wanted piano lessons and a piano, but never could have either. (I loved the piano from my earliest days partly because my grandpa was a piano tuner/rebuilder and pianos fascinated me when I was visiting my grandparents. There were always multiple pianos everywhere in various levels of rebuilding, actions everywhere, etc. It was magic!)

When I got older and married, I picked up old uprights from time to time, never paying much more than $100, and sometimes getting them for free. Usually I ended up letting them go to someone else for about the same or a little more after I cleaned them up. I couldn't repair or tune them, but I often refinished the cabinets. It was the limit of my skills. Most weren't very playable.

Eventually I got lucky. I was teaching school and the music department needed to place a few of their institutional spinets in classrooms since there wasn't a storage room for them. I volunteered my room for one of them. It was not very good and rarely in tune (a sad commentary on the support for music programs in schools, I'm afraid) but I played on that piano before school, after school, and during my lunch breaks. I began to pick up a little bit of skill from all the playing and I felt very lucky.

A few years later, one of my daughters returned from six years in college as a music major and settled in back home. She wanted to open a music studio to teach piano, voice, and clarinet, while teaching vocal music in a local high school. I offered her space in my shop (I had opened a comic book store in the large main room at the front of my house many years earlier and I gave her half of the shop space so she could make a piano purchase and start the studio.) She amazed me by buying a new Steinway L grand piano. (She was only able to do this because our credit union gave her a 10 year piano loan.) I felt like the OP because I could play the Steinway every day when there were no lessons going on. By this time I had retired from teaching so I could play for hours in the daytime while my daughter was teaching school.

Eventually all good things come to an end, however. She got her own place and took her Steinway with her. Although she offered its use whenever I wanted to make the half-hour drive to her new home, it wasn't as easy as having a piano in my house so my playing trailed off a lot. I began thinking about finding my own piano, but had a small budget. I knew a Steinway would be out of the question unless it was older. I have chronicled some of my search right here as it was about this time that I discovered Piano World.

I looked at uprights but after playing a nice, new Steinway grand, it was hard to get excited. Piano curse. I tried some inexpensive grands. Same problem. Then I went to some stores out of state while visiting one of my other daughters. I loved the large C. Bechstein, and the even larger Schimmel that I played there, as well as liking many smaller, but still too-expensive pianos. Piano curse all over again. These pianos blew away the Steinway L (7' and larger pianos from top tiers will do that to 5'11" pianos.)

I eventually found a brand-new 7'6" Albert Weber for sale in a town near home and it was offered at a very good price. I was almost set to buy it when personal situations changed drastically. My wife and I suffered a loss and eventually decided to relocate near two daughters in another state. When we found a house and started moving our things, I realized I would have only a small bedroom to hold the piano so I decided against the large Albert Weber. Back to looking.

Finally, after yearning for my own decent piano for almost 60 years, I found my dream piano. Rich Galassini at Cunningham Pianos in Philadelphia called me to tell me about some of his inventory. It took some persuading, but eventually I got talked into driving to Philadelphia. (I am very nervous driving in big cities and avoid them at all costs.) Originally I was interested in a wonderful Mason-Hamlin AA (about 6'4") but then Rich showed me a fine Mason-Hamlin BB in polished ebony. It even had a damp-chaser system already installed. The piano was used and Rich offered it at a very good price so my piano curse was ended by purchasing this wonderful, almost-new semi-concert grand.

The best news was that it fits in the bedroom and sounds very good there. (I do play it with the lid down or half-stick and I am not a dynamic, loud player anyway. Otherwise it might overwhelm the room a bit. Some day it may get moved into the large, open downstairs where it will be played with the lid full up, but it is great where it is right now.

So my suggestion again is that you never know. You might end up with the piano of your dreams eventually. Don't give up. I know my grandpa would be happy knowing I got his love of pianos and now have one of my own.