Roland hp3500s...what?

Posted by: biojack

Roland hp3500s...what? - 05/16/10 07:34 PM

Good friend that loves playing piano saw an Old Roland hp-3500s (i think that's what it is..!)

we know its old...is this a digital piano to avoid? realistically she would never really buy a something else, but the price may be right one this, based on other ads seen on kijiji and craig's list...

please help out some people that have no idea...!

thanks
Posted by: Gyro

Re: Roland hp3500s...what? - 05/16/10 09:36 PM

A digital piano is essentially a computer with a keyboard and
speakers, and used ones are priced like used pc's. For example,
how much would a 10 yr. old pc be worth? Not more than a
couple of hundred dollars, if that.

I bought my first digital in 1989, and even way back then they
played like an acoustic piano, and so buying an old digital
is no problem at all. Offer half price or less for a used digital.
Posted by: MacMacMac

Re: Roland hp3500s...what? - 05/16/10 10:37 PM

You'll need to have the exact model number.
I found no HP-3500 at Roland's web site http://www.rolandus.com/
Posted by: snazzyplayer

Re: Roland hp3500s...what? - 05/17/10 12:04 AM

This must be what the OP is referring to:

http://marketplace.ukpianos.co.uk/Roland...tem100000002024
Posted by: MacMacMac

Re: Roland hp3500s...what? - 05/17/10 01:26 AM

Ok, I managed to find the user manual. The manual has a MIDI implementation table dated ... August 1988.

This piano is way old. Ancient. Skip it.

(Open the lid ... you'll find Fred Flintstone and Dino tapping the strings with stone hammers.) smile
Posted by: EssBrace

Re: Roland hp3500s...what? - 05/17/10 06:35 AM

Whoa! Not so fast. At that age it will have Roland's SA synthesis sound engine. Not very piano like but amazingly expressive...much more so than the vast majority of brand new DPs in fact. The SA sounds are completely modelled. Legend has it that Roland had to abandon the technology because the inventor died.

On the other hand it may be a break-down waiting to happen so, yes, worth having, but only if it's in full working order and very cheap...that means no more than £200ish...what's that in dollars? $300ish I guess. Don't pay more!

Good luck,

Steve
Posted by: snazzyplayer

Re: Roland hp3500s...what? - 05/17/10 09:25 AM

Originally Posted By: EssBrace
Whoa! Not so fast. At that age it will have Roland's SA synthesis sound engine. Not very piano like but amazingly expressive...much more so than the vast majority of brand new DPs in fact. The SA sounds are completely modelled. Legend has it that Roland had to abandon the technology because the inventor died.

On the other hand it may be a break-down waiting to happen so, yes, worth having, but only if it's in full working order and very cheap...that means no more than £200ish...what's that in dollars? $300ish I guess. Don't pay more!

Good luck,

Steve


Yes Steve, SAS was the top technology for Roland back then...Structured Adaptive Synthesis it stood for...I have it in my old HP-1700 and it is very expressive, although the mids are a little thin...much like today's Rolands.

The SAS was also used to great success in Roland's VK-1000 drawbar organ (I had one for awhile).

The HP-3500 was fairly near the top of the range back then...around 1989, I believe, it was the bottom model of an upper end group which consisted of HP-5000/HP-4000L/HP-3500...I believe they all had MIDI in/out, and all used the SK-6 action, which was weighted rotary oil damped, and felt terrific, as it does on my HP-1700.

I'm to understand that SAS involved the taking apart, examination, and reassembly of sound participles, with respect to amplification, MIDI velocity sensitivity, etc. in order to inject some life into the then fossilized world of digital pianos.

As you say. it may be worth it...if the price is right.

Snazzy
Posted by: dewster

Re: Roland hp3500s...what? - 05/17/10 09:39 AM

Originally Posted By: snazzyplayer
... sound participles ...

Would those be past or present sound participles? I assume they can somehow be used as sound adjectives?
Posted by: snazzyplayer

Re: Roland hp3500s...what? - 05/17/10 09:46 AM

Originally Posted By: dewster
Originally Posted By: snazzyplayer
... sound participles ...

Would those be past or present sound participles? I assume they can somehow be used as sound adjectives?


I suppose they would be "present" participles back then...and "past" today.

At least that's how Roland's literature on the SAS describes them...as "sound participles" (not "particles")...but what do they know? All they did was engineer/produce it. grin

Snazzy