Building my own keyboard stand

Posted by: MF-Blues

Building my own keyboard stand - 08/02/10 08:44 AM

Just thought I'd share my recent project for you all to gaze upon in wonderment. :o)

I purchased the Akai MPK 88 midi controller keyboard and decided to build a stand for it mainly cus I don't like those X stand things, they're just to wobbly for my liking.

Here's some links to images of the project so far.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mf_blues/4852603053/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mf_blues/4853223894/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mf_blues/4852603163/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mf_blues/4853223974/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mf_blues/4852603251/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mf_blues/4853224098/

I'm hoping to complete the project over the next few weeks, eventually the stand will be painted satin black and all the wires where possible will be run through trunking on the back of the stand.

I will post some more pics as the project goes on and hopefully you'll get to see the finished article.

Thanks for looking.

Cheers

Martin
Posted by: MF-Blues

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 08/03/10 03:42 AM

Well I thought someone may have been the tiniest bit interested, maybe sharing their own experience of such a project or something.

Oh well, such is life.

Keep on tinkling those ivories(synthetic only or course).

Cheers

Mart.
Posted by: Vectistim

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 08/03/10 05:02 AM

I looked at it and my initial thoughts were a) that's a bit OTT b) where do you put your music c) there's a lot of electronics there d) that three pedal jobby looks interesting (is it a generic one or specific to your machine?)

It looks very impressive, but its not something I would have ever considered doing.
From the looks of it I presume its fulfilled your requirement for stability.
Posted by: Music Major

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 08/03/10 08:13 AM

One of the 1st things I did when starting to use DPs was to draw up plans for a keyboard case. I understand the need for having/building one of these things. I built my own also and I am very happy with it. I did not design a permanent position for speakers because I did not feel I could properly know where they should go without spending more time using the system. I am only now, after a year or two, feeling I would know where I would want a set of near-field monitors semi-permanently positioned.

Two of the things I noticed, to mention, were the lack of enclosure surrounding the mid-range/bass?? speakers. I also was a bit concerned about the tweeters. They are very directional and they appear to be set very far back in those tunnel-like openings, and aimed to go right on past you. I think you are going to think you are hearing sound okay (maybe just by shear volume), but since you are designing it yourself, you might want to add the ability to properly aim the treble response to suit you.

I like your work so far,... a great case! I know you will enjoy playing all the more for it.
Posted by: MF-Blues

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 08/03/10 08:28 AM

Originally Posted By: Vectistim
I looked at it and my initial thoughts were a) that's a bit OTT b) where do you put your music c) there's a lot of electronics there d) that three pedal jobby looks interesting (is it a generic one or specific to your machine?)

It looks very impressive, but its not something I would have ever considered doing.
From the looks of it I presume its fulfilled your requirement for stability.


I'm able to stand my music on top of the M3 Module, I have already designed the support just need to get it made, it is a bit high but not too much.

The 3 pedal is a Gem unit, I do need to do a bit of re-wiring to get to use it fully but that's no problem as I have rewired once already for the M3.

Stability is excellent, that's why I set about building it, I can't stand playing the keyboard when it wobbles all over the place, drives me mad.

Thanks for looking and replying.

Cheers

Mart.
Posted by: MF-Blues

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 08/03/10 08:34 AM

Music Major

The subs are being enclosed, I just haven't finished yet. I set the tweaters to point out the front and back of the unit, 8 in all and I'm really happy with the sound, the idea was to try and emulate the sound of a piano coming out all around the unit rather than being too directional, I really have no idea what I'm doing to be honest I just thought I'd give it a try and so far it seems to work.

When I get it all finished I will post some more pics, hopefully the final paint job will cover up some of my errors as I'm no master carpenter that's for sure.

Cheers

martin
Posted by: MF-Blues

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 08/03/10 08:41 AM

Music Major

I forgot to say, as you built one too how about posting some pics, I would love to see it.

Cheers

Martin
Posted by: ChrisA

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 08/03/10 12:51 PM

One thing about building it yourself, you gt exactly what you want.

I had thought about replacing the cross beam suport with a hollow beam. It looks like you did this. My problem is getting the hollow beam to have the correct internal volume as as to act as a speaker enclosure. For the drivers I'd like to use I'd need a about 1.5 cubic feet of volume.

So how did you handle this, smaller speakers? What drivers did you use? Is there a bass reflex port, pillow fluff. How do the speakers sound?
Posted by: spanishbuddha

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 08/03/10 12:54 PM

Originally Posted By: MF-Blues
Just thought I'd share my recent project for you all to gaze upon in wonderment. :o)

I purchased the Akai MPK 88 midi controller keyboard and decided to build a stand for it mainly cus I don't like those X stand things, they're just to wobbly for my liking.

Here's some links to images of the project so far.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/mf_blues/4852603053/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mf_blues/4853223894/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mf_blues/4852603163/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mf_blues/4853223974/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mf_blues/4852603251/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mf_blues/4853224098/

I'm hoping to complete the project over the next few weeks, eventually the stand will be painted satin black and all the wires where possible will be run through trunking on the back of the stand.

I will post some more pics as the project goes on and hopefully you'll get to see the finished article.

Thanks for looking.

Cheers

Martin


Great stuff. Looks well made. Looks like woodworking is or could be a second hobby. UK from the plug; in the South? Just in case I need a good carpenter. smile
Posted by: dannac

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 08/03/10 01:58 PM

MF-Blues .... that stand is looking good.

Here's one I built for my FP7, not fancy but strong.


Posted by: Stephen Hazel

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 08/03/10 04:30 PM

Wow, you've got guts buildin' your own speakers into it and such!!

Mine's a little on the simpler side:
http://pianocheater.com/piano/rig.html

So that big thing front and center there is some
kind of mixer or somethin?

Where do you stick the computer? laugh
I'm guessin off to the is the computer rig?

Man, that baby is built like a tank!
Posted by: MF-Blues

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 08/03/10 05:20 PM

ChrisA, The speakers sound pretty good but they're not finished yet, I really don't have much clue about all the speaker box capcity I just throw things together and see what happens, I do intend putting some foam of some kind in the subs, I understand it helps prevent them from sounding muddy, but they do sound pretty good to me. I'll have to do a recording and see what you guys think.

Dannac, I like that stand, looks pretty cool to me, I like the book shelf bit very clever and sturdy is what makes it for me. Nice one.

Steve, Not guts just don't know what I'm doing so just tried it anyway, well maybe some guts then. :o), I like your stand too, this is the sort of thing I was hoping to see when I made this post, it's just great to see how people innovate to make things suit their needs.

I hope we get some others come through with their creations, doesn't need to be a stand just anything to do with their music.

By the way Steve, my computer is on a desk to the side of the keyboard.

Cheers Guys, it's really great to see this stuff.

Keep it coming people. :o)

Cheers

Martin.
Posted by: MF-Blues

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 08/03/10 05:23 PM

Originally Posted By: Stephen Hazel


So that big thing front and center there is some
kind of mixer or somethin?



Which thing you looking at Steve, do you mean the controls on top of the keyboard or the white unit at the back?

Cheers

Mart.
Posted by: Stephen Hazel

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 08/03/10 05:50 PM

I was talkin' bout that very top thing towards the back where I'd expect a sheet music stand to be.. I guess the "white unit at the back"?

There's some thread on here called, mmm, I forget :/, that lists off some folks' rigs.
Search on here is kinda lame.
Usually, you gotta wait for a day or 2 to get a response on most topics.
(I don't log in here every dang day. Well, I try not to:)
Posted by: robdean

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 08/04/10 04:03 AM

Lovely looking woodwork. If it were me I wouldn't paint it black! I guess you'll have left some details looking untidy given your plan to paint it, but from afar it looks great as it is...
Posted by: MF-Blues

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 08/04/10 08:27 AM

Steve, the white module at the back is a korg M3M sound module, a very powerful bit of kit which has a 16 track sequencer, touch screen etc,etc....... too many features to list but it's very good to play with.

robdean, I was originally just going to stain it black, infact I may try that first because I did want to retain some visibilty of the wood grain, I can always mask any imperfections (of which there are a few) later.

Cheers

Mart.
Posted by: hannibal2

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/03/10 05:45 AM

Hello All

Here is my stand - custom sized, handcrafted smile for my Yamaha CP33 Stage Piano smile

Cheers











/z
Posted by: Dave Horne

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/03/10 06:00 AM

It looks great! Any plans for a beverage holder?
Posted by: Stephen Hazel

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/03/10 11:41 AM

My thoughts:
- you sure didn't skimp on the wood costs!
- there will NEVER be a speck of dust on the keys
- that thing will NEVER fall apart or creak:)
(mine creaked a little, but I fixed that.)
- you REALLY need a better chair!
- where does the pc go? laugh
- how do you get the drums out of the corner?
- you should glue a 1x2 (the bumpy way) against
the back lower inside of the cover for a
monster sized sheet music stand
Posted by: Stephen Hazel

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/03/10 11:41 AM

Oh, and good choice of piano laugh
Posted by: Hideki Matsui

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/03/10 12:18 PM

Originally Posted By: hannibal2








Spy shots of the N1?
Posted by: V_Piano_Man

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/03/10 01:23 PM

Fantastic to see resourcefulness.

I encourage more of this. Good on you men!

"Spy shots of the N1?" - Hideki - still laughing.
Posted by: MF-Blues

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/03/10 04:35 PM

Nice one Hannibal2, it's good to see folks are having a go, I still haven't finished mine yet, been messing around with flight sims so a bit distracted but it will be finished one day, I hope. crazy

Cheers

Mart.
Posted by: newpianogal

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/03/10 11:29 PM

Originally Posted By: hannibal2
Hello All

Here is my stand - custom sized, handcrafted smile for my Yamaha CP33 Stage Piano smile

Cheers











/z
Gorgeous!!
Posted by: newpianogal

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/03/10 11:35 PM

I went to a "Naked Furniture" store, bought a long, narrow sofa table that's almost the exact width of my keyboard, had them cut the legs down so my keys sit at 28 1/2" from the floor, had them paint it a satiny black to match my piano bench... and voila! Not very fancy, but I love that it makes it feel more like a real piano than the X-stand did. This may sound silly, but aesthetics are important to me. Shouldn't a piano be as lovely to look at as it is to play? Silly question: how does one post photos in a comment on this site? I've been mucking about, but can't figure it out. (Wanted to post some pics here of my little piano table.)
Posted by: Stephen Hazel

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/04/10 12:02 AM

Stick this link into your favorites for uploading pics to pianoworld:
http://www.pianoworld.com/Uploads/fileuploader2.html
Posted by: Stephen Hazel

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/04/10 12:04 AM

Hey, that's pretty nice - and ya didn't need a tablesaw smile
Posted by: newpianogal

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/04/10 12:10 AM

Originally Posted By: Stephen Hazel
Stick this link into your favorites for uploading pics to pianoworld:
http://www.pianoworld.com/Uploads/fileuploader2.html


Thank you!! smile
Posted by: newpianogal

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/04/10 12:35 AM

My digital piano table, as I described above...

Posted by: MacMacMac

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/04/10 04:12 AM

Looks good. Much nicer than the typical keyboard stand. Much.

And probably more stable, too.
Posted by: Rimmer

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/04/10 04:19 AM

Originally Posted By: dannac
MF-Blues .... that stand is looking good.

Here's one I built for my FP7, not fancy but strong.




Interesting!

I've decided I don't want to pay for an FP7 stand as they're unjustifiably expensive so I might drag the jigsaw out and make my own. Got any tips??

Regards. Rimmer
Posted by: dannac

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/04/10 02:47 PM

Hi Rimmer

As for tips ... I'd say screw or bolt everything.

I threw this together rather quickly with scrap wood and a coat of paint .... as you can see not made for a formal area.

I have not yet painted a piece added to keep my pedal in place
which moves rather easily on the type of floor.

BTW that piece is easily removeable to allow floor cleaning.

Anyways ... if you would like some dimensions, let me know.
Posted by: Rimmer

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/05/10 04:05 AM

Originally Posted By: dannac
Hi Rimmer

As for tips ... I'd say screw or bolt everything.

I threw this together rather quickly with scrap wood and a coat of paint .... as you can see not made for a formal area.

I have not yet painted a piece added to keep my pedal in place
which moves rather easily on the type of floor.

BTW that piece is easily removeable to allow floor cleaning.

Anyways ... if you would like some dimensions, let me know.


Hiya.

My woodworking skills are elementary but I'm willing to give it a go. I'll probably go with a simple two bits of wood at the end as legs then a section in the middle to link and stabilise the stand (although I suspect using the existing screw holes on the bottom of the FP-7f will stabilise even further). Any ideas on the proper height or any other measurements gratefully recieved!!!

Thx very much thumb

Rimmer
Posted by: hannibal2

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/05/10 04:28 AM

Hi Rimmer

Note: the key to any fully stabilized rock solid stand are these diagonal elements (or sg similar).



As for height:
Quote:
Steinway L grand: 28 1/8 inches from floor to top of white keys.


Cheers
Posted by: Rimmer

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/05/10 05:52 AM

Great. I'll let you know how it goes!!!

Regards. Rimmer
Posted by: kiedysktos.

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/05/10 10:20 AM

Hey guys, nice work smile I use "double X" stand, and it's stable enough; "single X" isn't stable at all smile. Right now I'm building huge wardrobe with slider doors in my apartment, so maybe I'll build some stand for my DP.

Originally Posted By: newpianogal
My digital piano table, as I described above...


This one is beautiful in it's simplicity. Was the table expensive? Looks like it's easy to convince wife to such solution smile
Posted by: TheodorN

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/05/10 11:31 AM

Stephen Hazel, I like your keyboard stand best. Could you PM me the measurements please?
Posted by: Stephen Hazel

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/05/10 11:56 AM

Sorrrrry, I got no measurements...:)
Only one I had was height from floor to keys.
The rest of the measurements I took from where
on the cp33 I wanted it to hit and worked the
rest out as I tablesawed stuff.

Ya saw the google sketchup thing I did at
the bottom of here, though, right?
http://pianocheater.com/piano/rig.html

And where the cp33's rubber feet are,
I drilled some holes for em to fit into.

You should maybe consider screwing it into wall studs, too.
(but leave cord holes/gaps, etc).

Mine is a teeeeeeny bit wobbly, but decent enough
for my purposes.

I've also got a better pc keyboard platform-ish thing.
More room for wrists and mouse while in
computer programming mode.

Good luck in your build laugh
Posted by: TheodorN

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/05/10 12:29 PM

Thank you Stephen, I think I need to have my stand 60 cm from the floor. The height of the DP is about 12-13 cm from bottom to white keys. I believe I can work out the other measurements, and saw the pieces out in an elecrical saw, I can borrow it from someone.

I had found one drawing before which I was thinking about and discovered I needed about 3 square meters of wood, guess it would be similar with your version. Here is a picture of the other one.



http://plans.thefrankes.com/Tutorials/Workstation5/default.aspx
Posted by: Stephen Hazel

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/05/10 12:38 PM

Hey! an Ensoniq KS-32 - I used to have one of those laugh
76 keys, but the touch doesn't compare to my cp33.
Posted by: TheodorN

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/05/10 05:31 PM

How can you recognize the keyboard from a small picture? Impressing, they all look the same to me, at least from afar. smirk

Edit: It's Ensoniq TS-12, says so on the page. Still close!
Posted by: Stephen Hazel

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/05/10 06:00 PM

Oh yeah, TS-12... The housing looks the same - I made a stand for one of those, too.
(well, a KS-32)
Then bought my cp33 and it of course didn't fit THAT stand smirk
Posted by: Musicfix

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/06/10 07:41 AM

I planning to build my own stand, and what will make a nice finish over wood is a semi-transparent black stain with satin poly over... the classic black of a piano but with the wood grain showing through!
Posted by: dannac

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/06/10 02:29 PM

Rimmer

Made a drawing of my stand, hope it helps.

If you feel it has left to right movement, just screw a couple of
L-shaped shelf brackets to the inside of the leg/top.

That would work similar to the diagnal brace hannibal2 mentioned.

Get a PDF here : http://www.box.net/shared/p4nvcv77xs

See a 3D view that can be rotated in space, your computer may ask to install the o2c plugin.

http://www.box.net/shared/7my8ccqxbj

NOTE : Forgot to mentioned the screws were countersunk
this usually prevents the wood from splitting, looks
a little better too
Posted by: newpianogal

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/09/10 11:31 PM

The table was about $300, including having the legs cut down and then painting it.
Posted by: Rimmer

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/10/10 04:04 AM

Originally Posted By: dannac
Rimmer

Made a drawing of my stand, hope it helps.

If you feel it has left to right movement, just screw a couple of
L-shaped shelf brackets to the inside of the leg/top.

That would work similar to the diagnal brace hannibal2 mentioned.

Get a PDF here : http://www.box.net/shared/p4nvcv77xs

See a 3D view that can be rotated in space, your computer may ask to install the o2c plugin.

http://www.box.net/shared/7my8ccqxbj

NOTE : Forgot to mentioned the screws were countersunk
this usually prevents the wood from splitting, looks
a little better too


Wow.. I'm very impressed. I wish I could do stuff like that..

I'll have a good look over that and see whether it's something I feel I would be able to do. I have a bunch of tools including a jigsaw with a laser attachment. It's something I need to do as the standard x-stand I have is a little shakey..!

Thanks a ton!!.. Rimmer
Posted by: flipflapowski

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/11/10 01:13 AM

Originally Posted By: newpianogal
My digital piano table, as I described above...



I have the same keyboard - Previa px330 and same dumper

How do you like it?
Posted by: Hideki Matsui

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/20/10 02:45 PM

I was doing some research on the equipment Muse's Matt Bellamy uses. I found out that his white upright is actually a Kawai MP8 stuffed in an acoustic case by Vale Pianos. Seems like the type of project a DIY'er might be able to do.

A picture of Bellamy's upright can be found in the first link, which is an interview with Bellamy about Kawai. The second link is the company that did it for him.

I've seen Muse live a bunch of times since 2003 and his keyboards always sound great. I'm not sure what he was using in 2003, but he had the cool silver piano back then.


Bellamy's MP8 in an acoustic case.

Place that did Bellamy's piano.
Posted by: ChrisA

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/20/10 03:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Hideki Matsui
I was doing some research on the equipment Muse's Matt Bellamy uses. I found out that his white upright is actually a Kawai MP8 stuffed in an acoustic case by Vale Pianos...


It seems there are two ways to go. Some of these is the "piano shell". They are typical stage prop quality and look very fake close up. In fact one company even claim as a positive "feature" that they use latex paint so that it is easy to repair scratches and dings on the road.

The other way is to buy an old used junker acoustic piano and gut it. Keeping just the cabinet shell then install the digital keyboard. With the cover closed it would look 100% "real" even up close.

Both of these I think are something a DIYer might be able to do.

The third option, building a furniture grade piano case from scratch is not easy and requires skills that even most professional cabinet makers lack.
Posted by: Kawai James

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/20/10 05:39 PM

Hideki Matsui,

MUSE still use the white upright piano cabinet, however for larger venues, and if time allows, they now use a grand piano cabinet, as seen in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ughBjosWQak

More information here

Cheers,
James
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Posted by: Hideki Matsui

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/20/10 06:04 PM

I thought I saw both at the most recent show in Sacramento. I may be mistaken. I thought he used the upright for Feeling Good and the grand for one of the newer pieces. I may be mixing up different shows.

Originally Posted By: Kawai James
Hideki Matsui,

MUSE still use the white upright piano cabinet, however for larger venues, and if time allows, they now use a grand piano cabinet, as seen in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ughBjosWQak

More information here

Cheers,
James
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Posted by: Kawai James

Re: Building my own keyboard stand - 12/20/10 06:27 PM

Ah, that's possible too. wink

I haven't seen MUSE for a couple of years, unfortunately. I would have gone to FujiRock this year, but my accident put pay to those plans. ;(

Cheers,
James
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