New Yamaha P 35

Posted by: Possum SP280Krome

New Yamaha P 35 - 09/03/12 11:10 AM

http://europe.yamaha.com/en/products/mus...-35/?mode=model

polyphony only 32 though????
Posted by: andi85

Re: New Yamaha P 35 - 09/03/12 11:37 AM

Well, as an entry-level instrument for those who don't want to afford a P-105 it makes sense. The question is how it will sound and play of course smile
Posted by: Possum SP280Krome

Re: New Yamaha P 35 - 09/03/12 12:39 PM

Other than the 32 note poly, it sounded decent and seems to have the same speaker specs as the 95
Posted by: ClsscLib

Re: New Yamaha P 35 - 09/03/12 03:15 PM

Seems to be targeted to compete with the Casios below the PX130 level.
Posted by: Kawai James

Re: New Yamaha P 35 - 09/03/12 04:40 PM

Indeed. I wonder where it's manufactured?

James
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Posted by: anotherscott

Re: New Yamaha P 35 - 09/03/12 05:21 PM

Seems to be the NP31 electronics in the P95 form factor (88 key GHS). So it would be an 88 cheaper than the P105. And ironically, better in one respect, in that it still has standard MIDI jacks like the NP31 and P95, and the P105 only has USB.
Posted by: maurus

Re: New Yamaha P 35 - 09/03/12 05:33 PM

I think you meant GHS, not GH. The thing might be interesting as a cheap and fairly lightweight Midi controller (actually more or less like the P95 in this respect).
Posted by: anotherscott

Re: New Yamaha P 35 - 09/03/12 05:50 PM

Originally Posted By: maurus
I think you meant GHS, not GH.

Yes, fixed, thanks.

Originally Posted By: maurus
The thing might be interesting as a cheap and fairly lightweight Midi controller (actually more or less like the P95 in this respect).

Yes, and cheaper and lighter than the P95. I'm glad to see it. Otherwise, once the P95 is gone, the Korg SP170 would be the only option for an 88-key board with standard MIDI for less than $700-$800.
Posted by: Vectistim

Re: New Yamaha P 35 - 09/03/12 06:02 PM

Not that they've got any stock, but these people are giving a price of £356/€449/$565
I suppose that puts it in the same range as the Casio CDP machines.
http://www.woodbrass.com/en/product_info.php?currency=GBP&products_id=140698&
Posted by: PianoWorksATL

Re: New Yamaha P 35 - 09/03/12 07:50 PM

Great. Does that mean their going to limit them to Guitar Center & Costco here in the states? frown
Posted by: Kawai James

Re: New Yamaha P 35 - 09/03/12 08:25 PM

Has that been their policy with the other entry-level models?

James
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Posted by: PianoWorksATL

Re: New Yamaha P 35 - 09/03/12 10:46 PM

Not for Yamaha but yes for Casio and the CDP models available in the US.
Posted by: Dr Popper

Re: New Yamaha P 35 - 09/06/12 11:01 AM

It was developed as a direct px130 competitor. It's going to be everywhere at not a lot of money.
Posted by: xorbe

Re: New Yamaha P 35 - 09/06/12 01:36 PM

P35? Yamaha figured out how to make a slab with even less features than a P95? It truly has just 2 buttons ... power and piano! pic: http://tinyurl.com/939njj7
Posted by: dewster

Re: New Yamaha P 35 - 09/06/12 03:09 PM

Originally Posted By: xorbe
P35? Yamaha figured out how to make a slab with even less features than a P95? It truly has just 2 buttons ... power and piano! pic: http://tinyurl.com/939njj7

At least they didn't pull the Korg SP-170 trick (?) of sticking the volume control in the MIDI out in jack location!

Is it just me, or does there seem to be a real race to the bottom lately when it comes to quality portability?
Posted by: andi85

Re: New Yamaha P 35 - 09/06/12 03:52 PM

I feel the same way, dewster! Whether that's a good thing or not is another question smile
Posted by: xorbe

Re: New Yamaha P 35 - 09/20/12 04:42 PM

Originally Posted By: dewster
At least they didn't pull the Korg SP-170 trick (?) of sticking the volume control in the MIDI out in jack location!

Found it!

Posted by: Kawai James

Re: New Yamaha P 35 - 09/20/12 05:04 PM

Originally Posted By: dewster
Is it just me, or does there seem to be a real race to the bottom lately when it comes to quality portability?


There is a growing demand for ultra-cheap DPs in emerging economies.

James
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Posted by: Dave Horne

Re: New Yamaha P 35 - 09/20/12 05:09 PM

As I always write, my GranTouch had 32 note polyphony and I never noticed any shortcomings whatsoever.

When it comes to digital pianos, just play them and make your decisions on the sound of the piano and the feel of the action.
Posted by: xorbe

Re: New Yamaha P 35 - 09/20/12 06:02 PM

My brother complained about dropped notes on his Yamaha P70 (32 note polyphony), but I haven't observed exactly what he's doing either.
Posted by: Dave Horne

Re: New Yamaha P 35 - 09/21/12 03:10 AM

Originally Posted By: xorbe
My brother complained about dropped notes on his Yamaha P70 (32 note polyphony), but I haven't observed exactly what he's doing either.


I would venture to guess he used multiple layers.
Posted by: RUSS SHETTLE

Re: New Yamaha P 35 - 09/21/12 03:23 PM

Originally Posted By: ClsscLib
Seems to be targeted to compete with the Casios below the PX130 level.


I don't know about that? The PX 130 has 120 Poly and a nice weighted keyboard. I've got one.
Posted by: anotherscott

Re: New Yamaha P 35 - 09/21/12 05:16 PM

Originally Posted By: RUSS SHETTLE
Originally Posted By: ClsscLib
Seems to be targeted to compete with the Casios below the PX130 level.


I don't know about that? The PX 130 has 120 Poly and a nice weighted keyboard. I've got one.

Poly is not very important. It's going to just be what action, sound, and features someone prefers. Personally, I'd pick the P35 over the PX130, because I prefer a standard MIDI interface to USB only, and I happen to like the Yamaha P95 piano sound (which is probably what's in the P35) more than the PX130 piano sound.
Posted by: xorbe

Re: New Yamaha P 35 - 09/21/12 05:33 PM

Originally Posted By: anotherscott
Poly is not very important. It's going to just be what action, sound, and features someone prefers. Personally, I'd pick the P35 over the PX130, because I prefer a standard MIDI interface to USB only, and I happen to like the Yamaha P95 piano sound (which is probably what's in the P35) more than the PX130 piano sound.


I think I agree with you about the sound, comparing my brother's P70 vs my PX330. Mine sounds okay and fine for my practice, but I remember being seriously wowed when my brother fired up his P70 -- I actually checked to see if he had wired it into a stereo or if it was just the keyboard speakers. (But I wouldn't trade him for sure.)
Posted by: dewster

Re: New Yamaha P 35 - 09/21/12 05:47 PM

Originally Posted By: xorbe
Found it!

I've always thought that was a ballsy move, sticking something extremely important like the volume knob in an obviously co-opted jack location, and in a position where you can't easily see how it's set.

The P35 is bringing up the rear with a total of two buttons, but at least the volume control is visible. I suppose the kids in emerging economies learning on these ultra-cheap portables will just have to suck it up. Low-end DPs are really scraping the bottom, I'm almost afraid to review their sound technology after my exposure to the NP-30/V60/V80.
Posted by: xorbe

Re: New Yamaha P 35 - 09/21/12 06:23 PM

Originally Posted By: dewster
I suppose the kids in emerging economies learning on these ultra-cheap portables will just have to suck it up. Low-end DPs are really scraping the bottom

I am amused how spoiled we are (and I am ...), and everyone thinks they need the finest sound and action before even really starting to learn for the first time ... $2K gadgets from parents for 9yo children, lol. Forums reps are happy to help! Today I was listening to an old guy play an ancient busted twangy $75 upright piano (youtube), and DAMN it's going to years before I can play like that -- somehow I will get by with my cheap stuff! (This video for reference.)
Posted by: Sand Tiger

Re: New Yamaha P 35 - 10/13/12 04:31 PM

I found this old thread on the P35. Looks like most of the attention on this forum is on the PX150, the P95, and the models above them, with twenty times as many posts on those models.

For a few folks, especially non-piano folks the slightly lower price and MIDI for the P35 might be enough. It would be interesting to see retail sales figures for all the new models under $1000 and also the ones they are phasing out, though of course that information is valuable to competitors, so the public will never see those numbers.
Posted by: ClsscLib

Re: New Yamaha P 35 - 10/13/12 06:01 PM

http://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-Series-P35B...ords=Yamaha+P35
Posted by: anhmytran

Re: New Yamaha P 35 - 10/13/12 08:15 PM

More than 10 years ago, I wanted to buy Yamaha P70.
Few years later Yamaha P80, and then P90 were sold in the market.
When Yamaha P120 were sold, I bought one about nearly 10 years ago at 1,200 dollars.
Suddenly, Yamaha P85 were sold, and I bought one at 450 dollars 2 years ago.
I think Yamaha does a very bad job in selling P series at random order and also shuffle technology, that means that it issues inferior products after some qualified product. Most of P series ended with number 5 are inferior product except P155. Amongst P120, there are products with defected keyboard, and mine is one. When I asked Yamaha, it agreed to replace the entire keyboard without cost.
Who among us can tell the time (month and year) each piano of P series were issued and whether it is a better product than the one issued earlier?
Posted by: gvfarns

Re: New Yamaha P 35 - 10/13/12 08:37 PM

Huh. I guess I have a different impression. In the slab form factor, Yamaha really only has two pianos: the GHS one with one timbral layer and the GH one with multiple. From time to time they will include very minor updates and/or cosmetic changes and I haven't personally seen lemons anywhere systematically.

The differences between the P80, P90, P120, and P155 are pretty minimal. Then there's the P35/85/95/105*. Within a grouping there's not a lot of difference in sound in my opinion--just incremental upgrades. In some cases there are speakers while in others there are not, but the speakers are not worth talking about (or using) in my opinion in any of these models.

The CP line has a bit more variety, though the CP33 sort of is just a newer P90, I have to say.

*Actually, I'm not sure whether the 105 has multiple layers. Anyone know? If it does then it kind of bridges the gap, which is maybe one reason it has gotten a lot of chatter here.
Posted by: Possum SP280Krome

Re: New Yamaha P 35 - 10/13/12 09:50 PM

the 105 has 3 layers, the speakers are definately an improvement over the 85 and 95 (not muddied)
Sold my 95 today and still have the stand and pedals, so will either get the 105 or look to move the stand and pedals and do another route.