Yamaha FC-4 for Casio PX-350

Posted by: Trigg

Yamaha FC-4 for Casio PX-350 - 12/12/12 01:40 PM

As this is my first post I would like to greet everyone here, you're simply best source of hardware knowledge for me.

I looked through the forum and could only find the info that Yamaha pedals won't work with Casio boards. Indeed, I have FC-4 Yamaha pedal from my previous keyboard and it does not work with my PX-350. I also know that there is a difference in polarisation or so, I've tried to turn on px-350 with pedal pressed but that didn't work either frown

I wonder if someone tried to adapt (maybe some wires change or something) pedals from other manufacturers to work with other manufacturer's pianos. Or maybe you just have some thoughts what could done here, if anything. Just to justify, pedal coming with px-350 is sooo poor and it's just a pity to throw away Yamaha's FC-4 which I find really nice.
Posted by: lpcmidst128

Re: Yamaha FC-4 for Casio PX-350 - 12/12/12 02:10 PM

I'm no electronics engineer but I would think that it would be possible to make it work with some modification. You have to open up the sustain pedal and switch the wires around so probably need to do some soldering work. Since you can't use it on your Casio its worth a try. Shouldn't be that complicated because its essentially a switch inside.
Posted by: Kbeaumont

Re: Yamaha FC-4 for Casio PX-350 - 12/12/12 03:42 PM

Though manufacturers call the switch on selectable pedals a polarity switch, in reality its not so simple. The FC-4 is a normally closed pedal. That means that when you press it the tip to sleeve is an open circuit and shorted every other time. Its not a simple polarity reversal. If you reverse the wires you still get the same thing. Its best to just buy a dual mode pedal, M-Audio & On Stage makes them and they are cheap.

http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/KSP100/
Posted by: o0Ampy0o

Re: Yamaha FC-4 for Casio PX-350 - 12/12/12 11:12 PM

Casio is making an effort to overcome the brand's association with making toy pianos yet the pedal they are shipping with the serious keyboards is built like a toy.
Posted by: Trigg

Re: Yamaha FC-4 for Casio PX-350 - 12/13/12 02:45 AM

Originally Posted By: o0Ampy0o
Casio is making an effort to overcome the brand's association with making toy pianos yet the pedal they are shipping with the serious keyboards is built like a toy.


Aggree 100%. Initially I thought I would manage with this pedal, but it's driving me nuts more I use it...

I guess I will just go with Kbeaumont's advice and buy new pedal...
Posted by: KLSinCT

Re: Yamaha FC-4 for Casio PX-350 - 12/13/12 06:08 AM

Originally Posted By: o0Ampy0o
Casio is making an effort to overcome the brand's association with making toy pianos yet the pedal they are shipping with the serious keyboards is built like a toy.


Yamaha is doing the same thing with the P105....

K.
Posted by: Kbeaumont

Re: Yamaha FC-4 for Casio PX-350 - 12/13/12 10:23 AM

In the past year, I bought both a Yamaha MOX8 workstation and the Korg SV1 stage piano.
The Yamaha came with a cheap plastic square pedal exactly the same as type as Casio ships.
The Korg came with a piano type pedal that was very cheaply made. Both the Korg and the Yamaha support half pedaling, I ended up spending an additional $110 to by both pedals. At $1,600+ for each board, you would think they would throw in the premium pedal! I can expect a cheap pedal on a $600 board!
Posted by: galaxy4t

Re: Yamaha FC-4 for Casio PX-350 - 12/13/12 12:56 PM

It is no coincidence they ship a cheap pedal with their pianos. They want everyone to spring for the pedal bar that supports half pedaling. It is made to interface with the piano stand.
Posted by: 4g63mr

Re: Yamaha FC-4 for Casio PX-350 - 12/13/12 01:41 PM

Originally Posted By: galaxy4t
It is no coincidence they ship a cheap pedal with their pianos. They want everyone to spring for the pedal bar that supports half pedaling. It is made to interface with the piano stand.


Im glad you made this post because I ordered my privia w/ the triple pedal upgrade and was reading threw this thinking people were talking about the upgraded pedals being toy like. So I guess the "toy" pedal is that little black box like one that comes w/ the newer Privias and Yamaha's?
Posted by: xorbe

Re: Yamaha FC-4 for Casio PX-350 - 12/13/12 02:17 PM

The triple pedal is fine. I never even took the twist-tie off the thing that came with my 330.
Posted by: Trigg

Re: Yamaha FC-4 for Casio PX-350 - 12/13/12 03:44 PM

Originally Posted By: 4g63mr
So I guess the "toy" pedal is that little black box like one that comes w/ the newer Privias and Yamaha's?


Exactly that one smile that little piece of... plastic wink
Posted by: o0Ampy0o

Re: Yamaha FC-4 for Casio PX-350 - 12/14/12 12:35 AM

The MOX does not have one of those living room accessory stands with the three pedal boards. My MOX6 did not come with a pedal. I bought it separately. The Yamaha FC5 is by far better than the quality in the Casio foot pedal. I do not think Casio even has a comparable pedal to the Yamaha FC5 to replace the cheap one that comes with the PX 350. If you do not want that stand Casio offers no alternatives except to spend money on another brand of pedal. That is lost revenue for Casio.