Help finding the right Piano! (Kawai, Korg, etc)

Posted by: Uberweiss

Help finding the right Piano! (Kawai, Korg, etc) - 12/12/12 03:16 PM

First of all I'd like to thank everyone for making this forum so useful! Hope you can help me with this one:

Im just starting to play the piano, I consider myself an absolute beginner... Anyways, I've decided to buy a DP and get into it more seriously!
Which brings me to my enquiry.... I've been mainly looking at three alternatives:
- Kawai MP-6
- Korg SV-1
- Kawai ES-7

My focus is certainly to learn to play the PIANO so good action is important, however I would like to have the ability (soundwise) to play a few songs by The Doors or something like that, which is why I've been focusing on pianos that have good organ / electric piano sounds as well.
Now from what I've read, the SV-1 should be a really good option, however I've also been reading about soooo many problems with it that I'm not so sure to take the risk.
On the other hand the MP-6 seems a good alternative to the SV-1, and at basically the same price seems like a more solid build that would last a long time without any problems.

So please if you could advise for/against these or other DPs considering my needs, I would greatly appreciate it!!!

PS: is a teacher light years ahead of self-learning or e-learning??? should I give the old DIY a try or find a good teacher as soon as possible?? Im 27 by the way


Thanks in advance,


JOE
Posted by: pianoxcape

Re: Help finding the right Piano! (Kawai, Korg, etc) - 12/12/12 03:44 PM

Hi Joe - I'd certainly add one more model to your evaluation list: the Kurzweil MP-10 (or the portable/slab version MPS-10).

I think your instincts and ears will serve you well... usually the one that "feels" right to you is the best option....

Wishing you much luck!

Kind regards,
Posted by: dmd

Re: Help finding the right Piano! (Kawai, Korg, etc) - 12/12/12 03:50 PM

Originally Posted By: Uberweiss
is a teacher light years ahead of self-learning or e-learning ???


Yes.

You are young enough so getting started in the right direction (with a teacher) will serve you well.
Posted by: gvfarns

Re: Help finding the right Piano! (Kawai, Korg, etc) - 12/12/12 04:05 PM

Teachers are good. If you need to conserve money many teachers will let you have more infrequent lessons.

On the pianos, I'd leave the korg behind. Personally I'd opt for the new technology in the ES7.
Posted by: 4g63mr

Re: Help finding the right Piano! (Kawai, Korg, etc) - 12/12/12 04:39 PM

Joe if I had the money upfront I would pick the es7 in a heart beat.
I played a kawai with the same keyboard and loved it.
Posted by: JanoSvk

Re: Help finding the right Piano! (Kawai, Korg, etc) - 12/12/12 04:53 PM

About the teacher...
In my opinion, and based on my experiences, you can learn on your own to a certain level. But you will:
1) be in a risk of build up bad technique, bad habits. It is usually hard to un-learn that later.
2) probably miss a contact with the musicians in your vicinity.
3) maybe be not so pushed to learn, like with the teacher smile.

I started to learn piano at the age of 30. I am visiting the "elementary" musician school, where my teacher's oldest student is 15 years younger like me. And it is still fun for me (especialy on the recitals). smile

I can recommend you, to take at least two hours per month (but one-two hours per week will be very nice). It will be probably enough to obviate the things what I wrote.
Posted by: Uberweiss

Re: Help finding the right Piano! (Kawai, Korg, etc) - 12/12/12 04:59 PM

Thanks for all the quick replies!


I appreciate all the inputs, and to be honest I've been thinking that the new technology in the ES7 should be worth it just as gvfarns pointed out.

The only thing that makes me think twice about it against the MP6 is the different sounds you can get out of it... Speaking of organs and EPs, I know that you can get somewhat of a drawbar on the MP6 and a lot more sounds are built into it. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not the kind of guy that thinks that one is better than the other because it has 5,325,254 more sounds (otherwise I'd go for a 20 bucks Casio) I'd rather have the 3 or 4 I would use that sound amazing.

So in this aspect, has any of you used the ES7 for playing The Doors, Led Zeppelin or any other kind of Rock stuff???

Any price competing Rolands or Yamahas that could be a good alternative?


Thanks again!
Posted by: Uberweiss

Re: Help finding the right Piano! (Kawai, Korg, etc) - 12/12/12 05:03 PM

Oh and thanks for the teacher/learning method advises as well!

I'll definitely get at least a few hours from what I'm reading here...
JanoSvk did you find it to hard at first?? I keep hearing that most of the guys that play good started at 12-15 years old.
Is there any future for us??? Lol
Posted by: Kawai James

Re: Help finding the right Piano! (Kawai, Korg, etc) - 12/12/12 05:18 PM

If organ playing is important, I would opt for the MP6 over the ES7.

Cheers,
James
x
Posted by: JanoSvk

Re: Help finding the right Piano! (Kawai, Korg, etc) - 12/12/12 05:39 PM

I am looking forward for the future. smile
To be honest, I used to play accordion when I was around the age of 10 for some years. So I had some basics like reading the notes. It was a bit strange at first, but now it is ok. I just do not have so much time for it, like I want to have. Learning itself is not a problem.
But I have too small hands for the piano, so I will be never one of the best. And in my age, they will not grow up anymore. laugh

Nevermind, I enjoy to just sitting in front of the piano in the late evening and express my emotions through the hands and keys (do not forget headphones!). It is for me some kind of escape from the reality, especially after hard day work. Ant I think it is about that. If you really like it there is nothing to judge, like one ad in my country says.
If you like it, you can be good at least for you enjoyment.
Posted by: mitzysman

Re: Help finding the right Piano! (Kawai, Korg, etc) - 12/12/12 06:26 PM

I really like Kawai's piano - But also consider the Yamaha cp-50 and the Yamaha mox8
Posted by: Uberweiss

Re: Help finding the right Piano! (Kawai, Korg, etc) - 12/13/12 11:00 AM

Thanks everybody for all the great advises!

At this point I'm leaning towards the Kawai ES7... I'll let you know as soon as I get it and will share my impressions.
Posted by: vein

Re: Help finding the right Piano! (Kawai, Korg, etc) - 12/13/12 12:41 PM

hi friends I recently learnt to play piano from the famous institute in scotland near office address service scotland and i want to buy the piano so tell me the way to choose right piano.
Posted by: spanishbuddha

Re: Help finding the right Piano! (Kawai, Korg, etc) - 12/13/12 01:06 PM

Originally Posted By: vein
hi friends I recently learnt to play piano from the famous institute in scotland near office address service scotland and i want to buy the piano so tell me the way to choose right piano.

Looks like mischief. See his other posts. What do we call that? It's not trolling or spam but ....?
Posted by: 4g63mr

Re: Help finding the right Piano! (Kawai, Korg, etc) - 12/13/12 01:17 PM

I recently talked w/ a rep at kraft music. They have a slightly used but completely perfect running condition MP6 for sale that would shave off a couple 100 bucks. Rep said it looks and plays just like brand new.
Might be worth a look. The rep I spoke with was Scott.
Posted by: 4g63mr

Re: Help finding the right Piano! (Kawai, Korg, etc) - 12/13/12 01:19 PM

Originally Posted By: spanishbuddha
Originally Posted By: vein
hi friends I recently learnt to play piano from the famous institute in scotland near office address service scotland and i want to buy the piano so tell me the way to choose right piano.

Looks like mischief. See his other posts. What do we call that? It's not trolling or spam but ....?


Subliminal sales pitch ?
Posted by: Voltara

Re: Help finding the right Piano! (Kawai, Korg, etc) - 12/13/12 01:20 PM

Originally Posted By: spanishbuddha
Originally Posted By: vein
hi friends I recently learnt to play piano from the famous institute in scotland near office address service scotland and i want to buy the piano so tell me the way to choose right piano.

Looks like mischief. See his other posts. What do we call that? It's not trolling or spam but ....?


Link spam - trying to increase search result ranking by creating links back to a web site. Many forums require a minimum number of posts before you can post links, so that's why you see those first few posts.

I would recommend editing your reply to remove the spammer's URL tag.
Posted by: 4g63mr

Re: Help finding the right Piano! (Kawai, Korg, etc) - 12/13/12 01:22 PM

Originally Posted By: Voltara
Originally Posted By: spanishbuddha
Originally Posted By: vein
hi friends I recently learnt to play piano from the famous institute in scotland near office address service scotland and i want to buy the piano so tell me the way to choose right piano.

Looks like mischief. See his other posts. What do we call that? It's not trolling or spam but ....?


Link spam - trying to increase search result ranking by creating links back to a web site. Many forums require a minimum number of posts before you can post links, so that's why you see those first few posts.

I would recommend editing your reply to remove the spammer's URL tag.


Dangit, you win.. I thought I had that one :p
Posted by: Mark...

Re: Help finding the right Piano! (Kawai, Korg, etc) - 12/13/12 04:44 PM

Originally Posted By: vein
hi friends I recently learnt to play piano from the famous institute in scotland near office address service scotland and i want to buy the piano so tell me the way to choose right piano.


As long as you don't buy anything from piano supplies dot com...they are very bad...

good luck... laugh