About Yamaha P105B

Posted by: foster12

About Yamaha P105B - 02/07/13 03:26 PM

Anyone know if this e-piano have the double action effect like mp10 kawai?
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Thank you!

Posted by: spanishbuddha

Re: About Yamaha P105B - 02/07/13 03:51 PM

What do you mean by double action effect? The key action is nowhere near (as good as) the MP10 action.
Posted by: foster12

Re: About Yamaha P105B - 02/07/13 04:14 PM

I mean the typical click, that you feel when push slowly the key.

I have a Yamaha P60 and it has't this feature.
Posted by: galaxy4t

Re: About Yamaha P105B - 02/07/13 04:22 PM

Definately not. P-105 uses GHS, a light action and Yahama's cheapest. Haven't played a Kawai in a long time, but I doubt it feels anything like it. In fact the P-105 is nothing like a MP10.
Posted by: foster12

Re: About Yamaha P105B - 02/07/13 04:26 PM

Thank you for the answer.

I don't understand why Yamaha continue to insert the escapement only in best e-pianos.
Posted by: gvfarns

Re: About Yamaha P105B - 02/07/13 05:03 PM

It sounds like you are talking about what we sometimes call 'escapement simulation,' which is a little tiny bit of resistance at the point where escapement would happen in an acoustic.

I don't think Yamaha has escapement simulation in any of their pianos, including the high-end ones. I was only top Roland pianos for a long time. Now Kawai has it in their top pianos. AFAIK Yamaha has never used it. It's not really that nice of a think, in my opinion. I wouldn't pay any extra for it, personally.

They have triple sensor actions in the nicer pianos, if that's what you are thinking of. But that's not something you can feel.
Posted by: anotherscott

Re: About Yamaha P105B - 02/07/13 05:17 PM

Originally Posted By: foster12
I don't understand why Yamaha continue to insert the escapement only in best e-pianos.

Cost. The more sophisticated actions are part of the reason to buy a better model.
Posted by: Kawai James

Re: About Yamaha P105B - 02/07/13 05:18 PM

Originally Posted By: gvfarns
Now Kawai has it in their top pianos. AFAIK Yamaha has never used it. It's not really that nice of a think, in my opinion. I wouldn't pay any extra for it, personally.


Escapement/let-off was introduced in Kawai's previous generation actions, but reserved for the higher specification models.

However, now it is a standard feature of all the current generation actions (GF, RM3 Grand II, and RHII).

Kind regards,
James
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Posted by: PianoWorksATL

Re: About Yamaha P105B - 02/07/13 09:07 PM

Most has already been said. On the plus side for the GHS action is that it is still very durable and responsive despite its older, less sophisticated design. I wish it were firmer. I like how its basic features are grouped. I like several of its sounds. The speakers are surprisingly good for their size. I like that there is audio out on the back and headphone outs on the front. In its price class, its a good competitor for Casio PX-150.

Let off or "escapement" (misnomer) is also on all current Roland DP's. It's extremely mild on Ivory Feel-G and easily noticeable on all current PHA-III variations (I think there are only 2).